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Title: should i go on?
Post by: chain_gang_member on December 29, 2005, 10:38:47 AM
hie,
HAPPY NEW YEAR!

mates 1 question:
i ve completed 7 wks on my sust 500 mg /wk cycle and just began seeing results, what i want so should i continue it for more 3 wks (hope its not harsh on my system) or should i do pct after my 8th wk that i had in mind?

any do's and donts i should follow?
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: muscle19 on December 29, 2005, 11:03:56 AM
imo, i would never go below a 12wk cycel, so my advice to u is to extend that cycle to 12 wks and then start pct. what r ur pct plans?


muscle
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: mem on December 29, 2005, 12:08:44 PM
I struggle to manage any further (appropriate) advice.

Sadly, there are areas or aspects of your approach to this
current program that fall outside of (most of our) collective
knowledge, recommendations and advice to you - up to now.

Not busting your balls. But, I'm more concerned that you are
going about things wrong and are bound for set-backs.

1) Single component programs S U C K - period.
adding deca (I know - I know the *excuse you used* for not)
and perhaps a basic oral - mix it up.

2) Not doing some form of estrogen blocker or aromatase inhibitor is unwise.
Among several benefits - it would limit the bloat that scares you . . .

3) And NOT doing HCG for maintainence IS certain for long term drawbacks.
nads will continue to get smaller and make *normalizing* more difficult
post treatments.

- - - - - -  A D V I C E  - - - - - -

This having been said . . . I don't know whether to suggest a longer run
12 + weeks (16 preferred). WITHOUT having the appropriate measures in
place - I am uncertain whether a short or longer time frame would suit
your somewhat incomplete approach.

Study or become more a student in future efforts and approach
Plan more completely (any future AAS use) and wait IF you have
to until you DO HAVE all the prerequisite medications in place.

Not only will your program be safer (longterm) - you will make
(and keep) those hard earned gains with time.
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: chain_gang_member on December 29, 2005, 12:30:24 PM
all appreciated!
was thinking of goin 10wks but have a slight shrinkage in balls.
so saturday is my 8th wk start, should i add hcg(keep in mind 3 wks only to end cycle).if yeas how much?500x2 pewr wk?
can it be added in same shot of sust?
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: DIVISION on December 29, 2005, 01:28:13 PM
i ve completed 7 wks on my sust 500 mg /wk cycle and just began seeing results, what i want so should i continue it for more 3 wks (hope its not harsh on my system) or should i do pct after my 8th wk that i had in mind?

You should go 12-15 weeks if you want the full benefit from it, IMO.

Then switch to Prop to finish out your ride through the "Dark Side".

Bare witness.





DIV
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: Arnold jr on December 29, 2005, 03:10:56 PM
I struggle to manage any further (appropriate) advice.

Sadly, there are areas or aspects of your approach to this
current program that fall outside of (most of our) collective
knowledge, recommendations and advice to you - up to now.

Not busting your balls. But, I'm more concerned that you are
going about things wrong and are bound for set-backs.

1) Single component programs S U C K - period.
adding deca (I know - I know the *excuse you used* for not)
and perhaps a basic oral - mix it up.

2) Not doing some form of estrogen blocker or aromatase inhibitor is unwise.
Among several benefits - it would limit bloat the scares you . . .

3) And NOT doing HCG for maintainence IS certain for long term drawbacks.
nads will continue to get smaller and make *normalizing* more difficult
post treatments.

- - - - - -  A D V I C E  - - - - - -

This having been said . . . I don't know whether to suggest a longer run
12 + weeks (16 preferred). WITHOUT having the appropriate measures in
place - I am uncertain whether a short or longer time frame would suit
your somewhat incomplete approach.

Study or become more a student in future efforts and approach
Plan more completely (any future AAS use) and wait IF you have
to until you DO HAVE all the prerequisite medications in place.

Not only will your program be safer (longterm) - you will make
(and keep) those hard earned gains with time.
Agree with everything mem.
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: muscle19 on December 29, 2005, 03:26:17 PM
since u r so far into ur cycle, i wouldnt worry about using hcg at this point, for future refrences, use 500ius every 5 days during the entire cycle. like mem said, single components do suck and yield very little gains compared to sides.


muscle
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: chain_gang_member on December 30, 2005, 10:31:49 AM
ok
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: freakfestMD on December 30, 2005, 01:11:07 PM
Remember, he can still "salvage" at the end by using 1500IU of hcg 2x per week for 2 weeks.  This is a very common way of using hcg, and is still the most popular recommendation on other boards.  Thanks mainly in part to "marble" here on getbig, we have all (mostly) changed to a regimen of 500IU every 4-5 days throughout.

Extend the cycle for another 4 to 8 weeks.  Its also not too late to start an aromatase inhibitor such as arimidex or letrozole.
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: DIVISION on December 30, 2005, 01:23:15 PM
Remember, he can still "salvage" at the end by using 1500IU of hcg 2x per week for 2 weeks.  This is a very common way of using hcg, and is still the most popular recommendation on other boards.  Thanks mainly in part to "marble" here on getbig, we have all (mostly) changed to a regimen of 500IU every 4-5 days throughout.

Extend the cycle for another 4 to 8 weeks.  Its also not too late to start an aromatase inhibitor such as arimidex or letrozole.

You're right Freaker.....

Most people are still going by the end theory of HCG during PCT.

I am liking this 500IU e4d though..........already see it working.

It's not too late for an AI, but he should have run it all the way through, he's really coming in to this late. 





DIV
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: chain_gang_member on December 30, 2005, 01:25:52 PM


  Its also not too late to start an aromatase inhibitor such as arimidex or letrozole.
Quote

i only get nolva/clomid here :'(
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: Arnold jr on December 30, 2005, 08:27:26 PM



i only get nolva/clomid here :'(
An aromatase inhibitor, is not that hard to come by bro... much easier than some of the other stuff. Do a little digging and you'll get what you need
Title: Re: should i go on?
Post by: DIVISION on December 31, 2005, 02:53:30 PM
An aromatase inhibitor, is not that hard to come by bro... much easier than some of the other stuff. Do a little digging and you'll get what you need

Exactly.

With all the "Research Labs" around, it's not hard at all.





DIV