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Title: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on October 15, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
Kai and Wolf killing him. Previous Mr. O were never getting so destroyed.
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 15, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
video is shopped.
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Post by: GraniteCityDon on October 15, 2013, 12:59:39 PM
Wolf killed him in the MM, side chest was so so, BDB had the detail but was it a Colemanesque domination? Never. Ab and thigh was horrible for Phil considering the abs werent exactly on show and he stands like a retard. Kai looked too smooth but Wolf was on.
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Post by: Rami on October 15, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
3 time emotional temper tantrum PHIL HEATH!
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: Papper on October 15, 2013, 02:08:59 PM
BDB had the detail but was it a Colemanesque domination? Never.


No matter how hard I look, I still see more thickness and more detail in Kai's BDB compared to Phil. More separation all over the back.

And Kai blew him away in the side tri. I can't imagine anyone making a case for Phil here. (Except for Bob Chic, Norton and that schmoe named Peepee of course)

Phil was more on last year.
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: 240 is Back on October 15, 2013, 02:27:28 PM
the champ is here.
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Post by: GraniteCityDon on October 15, 2013, 02:36:47 PM

No matter how hard I look, I still see more thickness and more detail in Kai's BDB compared to Phil. More separation all over the back.

And Kai blew him away in the side tri. I can't imagine anyone making a case for Phil here. (Except for Bob Chic, Norton and that schmoe named Peepee of course)

Phil was more on last year.

Kai's back has it all, i feel his gut and lack of absolute sharpness cost him. I find it a slap in the face that Phil is seen to be the very best in the world when the standards have dropped so far.
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Post by: DanielPaul on October 15, 2013, 03:12:59 PM
Kia is one of the ugliest humans I have ever seen, really I've seen burn victims with better facial characteristics than him
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 15, 2013, 03:16:17 PM
Keep hatin Phil is gonna be around a LONG time
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Post by: irishdave on October 15, 2013, 03:18:39 PM
Kia is one of the ugliest humans I have ever seen, really I've seen burn victims with better facial characteristics than him

Go easy, he's black...can't help it, bro
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Post by: RagingBull on October 15, 2013, 03:19:44 PM
The problem with Kai's BDB is that he arches his lower back too much which further shortens his torso.  Easy fix...

Wolf's structure is his flaw and he will never finish this high again.
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Post by: DanielPaul on October 15, 2013, 03:21:59 PM
It's not his body, it's that ugly fucking mug he's got Jesus he's homely, it would also help if he cut that nappy as ducktail off
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Post by: Parker on October 15, 2013, 03:28:42 PM
Keep hatin Phil is gonna be around a LONG time
From back in the day...
(http://www.ironville.com/images/gallery/wall-of-fame/phil-heath.jpg)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=35909&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/TAaxEmLrWUI/AAAAAAAAK4M/fzeV9LsGBio/s1600/Behind+The+Scene+At+2007+Arnold+Classic+Contest++-+05+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6ZAxxqIo-eA/T-g0kphjv0I/AAAAAAAAFlQ/EPCCJ1CuoKg/s1600/Darrem+Charles+(6).jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/TAaw2Y6X-oI/AAAAAAAAK4E/UdjOf48UUcw/s1600/Behind+The+Scene+At+2007+Arnold+Classic+Contest++-+04+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com.jpg)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=35936&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
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Post by: Da Freak on October 15, 2013, 03:42:07 PM
Darrem always had some of the best peaked bis ever  :o
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 15, 2013, 03:44:04 PM
Heath is the worst Mr. O ever.  He doesn't nothing for the sport.  he is a prick and unlikeable.  He is bad for bodybuilding.
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Post by: AbrahamG on October 15, 2013, 04:20:24 PM
Kai and Wolf killing him. Previous Mr. O were never getting so destroyed.


Phil beats Wolf, but not Kai.
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: mesmorph78 on October 15, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
Heath is the worst Mr. O ever.  He doesn't nothing for the sport.  he is a prick and unlikeable.  He is bad for bodybuilding.
Not as extreme as that... But for me Phil is just nothing special seen him in person nothing special ... Big arms and that it and to boot he's a cocky fucker.. And tries to hide it...
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Post by: WOOO on October 15, 2013, 04:42:11 PM
phillip won... don't get your panties in a bunch
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Post by: WalterWhite on October 15, 2013, 04:52:52 PM
Not as extreme as that... But for me Phil is just nothing special seen him in person nothing special ... Big arms and that it and to boot he's a cocky fucker.. And tries to hide it...


+1
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: Parker on October 15, 2013, 05:03:13 PM
Not as extreme as that... But for me Phil is just nothing special seen him in person nothing special ... Big arms and that it and to boot he's a cocky fucker.. And tries to hide it...

You saw him during his bloofy stage correct? That bloofy suit is like his cocoon.
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: mesmorph78 on October 15, 2013, 05:21:11 PM
You saw him during his bloofy stage correct? That bloofy suit is like his cocoon.
no he was in good condition when I saw him .. Twice now .. He has big arms and that blows peoples minds...
Majority of the people I train with have big arms I have big arms my brother has big arms ... So?
I think it takes more than that to be mr o  mr o should never be lost in a line up .. Look at the pics from the Arnold Europe from afar he is lost
Now go look at some pics from Dorian or Coleman in a line up
...
Look past the arm insertions... Not much
Flex had massive arms but had a complete physique narrow waist sick
Phil is just meh as a mr o.. Arms that's people day he has no flaws but that's crazy wide waist for his size chest mediocre for a mr o , narrow...
But people would loos past that because he has impressive arms
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: Parker on October 15, 2013, 05:52:35 PM
no he was in good condition when I saw him .. Twice now .. He has big arms and that blows peoples minds...
Majority of the people I train with have big arms I have big arms my brother has big arms ... So?
I think it takes more than that to be mr o  mr o should never be lost in a line up .. Look at the pics from the Arnold Europe from afar he is lost
Now go look at some pics from Dorian or Coleman in a line up
...
Look past the arm insertions... Not much
Flex had massive arms but had a complete physique narrow waist sick
Phil is just meh as a mr o.. Arms that's people day he has no flaws but that's crazy wide waist for his size chest mediocre for a mr o , narrow...
But people would loos past that because he has impressive arms
I agree with everything you just said.
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: Bevo on October 15, 2013, 06:27:00 PM
no he was in good condition when I saw him .. Twice now .. He has big arms and that blows peoples minds...
Majority of the people I train with have big arms I have big arms my brother has big arms ... So?
I think it takes more than that to be mr o  mr o should never be lost in a line up .. Look at the pics from the Arnold Europe from afar he is lost
Now go look at some pics from Dorian or Coleman in a line up
...
Look past the arm insertions... Not much
Flex had massive arms but had a complete physique narrow waist sick
Phil is just meh as a mr o.. Arms that's people day he has no flaws but that's crazy wide waist for his size chest mediocre for a mr o , narrow...
But people would loos past that because he has impressive arms

How about dexter? He won the 2008 O.... Looks nothing special either compared to Coleman/Yates?
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: mr.turbo on October 15, 2013, 06:50:57 PM
phil has a tiny torso

built like a little t-rex but kai would mangle his ass in a wrassling match no doubt about it!  :D
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Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on October 15, 2013, 07:34:50 PM
THE BEEF has got to say, THE BEEF thought Kai handed Philip his nuts in Spain. THE BEEF watched Dave and Chris Aceto do a review and Chris saiid Philn had it. THE BEEF respects THE TECHNICIAN and bows to his superior knowledge.

THE BEEF 
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Post by: mr.turbo on October 15, 2013, 08:51:14 PM
kai is a lot bigger than phil and its shows in the vids!
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Post by: Mr.1derful on October 15, 2013, 09:05:35 PM
Phil won the show with ease.  I'm not sure how that makes him overrated.
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Post by: Cold on October 15, 2013, 09:29:49 PM
Is this bodybuilding or sizebuilding?

Kai looks like dog shiiit.
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Post by: mesmorph78 on October 15, 2013, 10:49:49 PM
How about dexter? He won the 2008 O.... Looks nothing special either compared to Coleman/Yates?

But dexter has a waaaay better physique than Phil
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Post by: AbrahamG on October 15, 2013, 11:33:00 PM
I'm not the biggest Phil fan, but there is no denying he's a great bodybuilder.  If Flex Wheeler could have achieved a semblance of the conditioning that Phil does, he's have a few sandows.
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Post by: mr.turbo on October 16, 2013, 12:36:03 AM
phil has midgety arms that looks big because they're unusually short.

also badly outmuscled from the back front and side!!
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Post by: Bevo on October 16, 2013, 02:14:06 AM
But dexter has a waaaay better physique than Phil


I like Dex but no he doesn't have a better physique "overall"

Everyone is saying size size size now??

Years back I remember when guys were saying too much mass, need more conditioning or "Dorian ruined bbing being one of the first mass monsters, same thing can be said about Ronnie"

Make up your mind people

Phil is a combination of both, not the biggest but not small and his conditioning is better than Kai and all
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Post by: Bevo on October 16, 2013, 02:19:35 AM
kai is a lot bigger than phil and its shows in the vids!

So what? Kovacs was bigger than most, so is Louie and Sean Allen...

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Post by: G_Thang on October 16, 2013, 02:23:07 AM
Any word on the streets about Phil and the new lamborghini aventador?  What you say, Uncle Wiggs?   
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Post by: erics on October 16, 2013, 03:22:54 AM
Everyone is saying size size size now??

Years back I remember when guys were saying too much mass, need more conditioning or "Dorian ruined bbing being one of the first mass monsters, same thing can be said about Ronnie"

Make up your mind people

Phil is a combination of both, not the biggest but not small and his conditioning is better than Kai and all

Bodybuilding fans are morons.

Heath doesn't have to be the best ever to win. He just has to be better than those he competes with. And, so far, he has been.
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Post by: mr.turbo on October 16, 2013, 05:37:05 AM
SMALL torso, midgety arms and highly unsportsmanlike!
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Post by: Pet shop boys on October 16, 2013, 05:41:41 AM
I don't know why but so far Phil is the only Mr.O in history that looks "all drugs" 



WoooSSSShhhh
Title: Re: PHIL HEATH is OVERRATED. Mr. O 2013 night show revisited.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 16, 2013, 06:13:03 AM
I'm not the biggest Phil fan, but there is no denying he's a great bodybuilder.  If Flex Wheeler could have achieved a semblance of the conditioning that Phil does, he's have a few sandows.
Flex nailed his conditioning at the 93 Arnold and 98 Arnold, he never did for any Olympia! That's why he has no Sandows!
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Post by: Parker on October 16, 2013, 06:27:03 AM
phil has midgety arms that looks big because they're unusually short.

also badly outmuscled from the back front and side!!
No, they look big because of his huge triceps---specifically the lateral and long heads that make up the "horseshoe". He has long biceps (insert more to the elbow) so his bicep peaks are not high.
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Post by: The_Punisher on October 16, 2013, 06:45:42 AM
Kia is one of the ugliest humans I have ever seen, really I've seen burn victims with better facial characteristics than him


Lol.......he may not be pretty, but he's no Ape.... :-X
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Post by: Cold on October 16, 2013, 07:31:37 AM
These morons blame the judges for handing wins to ugly mass monsters with pregnant guts.

Then they go on bodybuilding forums and complain everytime a smaller guy beats a bigger guy.
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Post by: Danjo on October 16, 2013, 07:36:57 AM
Kai be fugly, true..but he don't have much on Kevin English..
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Post by: erics on October 16, 2013, 01:19:19 PM
These morons blame the judges for handing wins to ugly mass monsters with pregnant guts.

Then they go on bodybuilding forums and complain everytime a smaller guy beats a bigger guy.

Bodybuilding fans are the last people to ask about bodybuilding.

Most of them have no clue.
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Post by: 99 Bananas on October 16, 2013, 01:29:02 PM
Wolf has a weak looking midsection and Kai looks like a fuckin weirdo. Phil is just as good as either of them and he acts like Mr Olympia. These things don't matter, but they matter. Kai will never win, and wolf just won't ever be good enough.
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Post by: JasonH on October 16, 2013, 01:29:43 PM
Not a fan of Phil but he won the Olympia fair and square this year.

If he stays in the same sort of shape and stays injury free then I predict at least three more relatively comfortable Olympia wins and by then he'll only be 36 so who knows, possibly Haney's record?
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Post by: mr.turbo on October 17, 2013, 01:30:57 AM
No, they look big because of his huge triceps---specifically the lateral and long heads that make up the "horseshoe". He has long biceps (insert more to the elbow) so his bicep peaks are not high.

are you talking about roelly??

phils arms look big because he's shooting up his brachioradialis like a mofo
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Post by: Bevo on October 17, 2013, 01:34:14 AM
are you talking about roelly??

phils arms look big because he's shooting up his brachioradialis like a mofo

His arms look big cause they are big! Have u seen him in person? If anything his overall arm development forearms, biceps, triceps are some of the best competing

He's the Mr O

People need to get over it
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Post by: mr.turbo on October 17, 2013, 01:44:16 AM
His arms look big cause they are big! Have u seen him in person? If anything his overall arm development forearms, biceps, triceps are some of the best competing

He's the Mr O

People need to get over it

phils contribution to bodybuilding = popularizing site injects of the bracioradialis
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Post by: mesmorph78 on October 17, 2013, 06:03:43 AM
I like Dex but no he doesn't have a better physique "overall"

Everyone is saying size size size now??

Years back I remember when guys were saying too much mass, need more conditioning or "Dorian ruined bbing being one of the first mass monsters, same thing can be said about Ronnie"

Make up your mind people

Phil is a combination of both, not the biggest but not small and his conditioning is better than Kai and all

It's not even comparable at peak

Notice dex has some serious guns but the chest to match
No weak points dude waaaay better physique
By far
The only reason people go crazy for Phil is arms  that's it
Even Dorian wondered how Phil has gotten away with having a mediocre chest for a pro he just is not balanced...
Imagine Phil without the arms we wouldn't even be having this convo
Dex at peak miles better physique