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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: El Diablo Blanco on October 15, 2013, 01:41:02 PM
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I got mine yesterday after a checkup. The illuminati will say that I was injected with mind control drugs.
But two years ago I didn't get one and was hit with about 5 colds throughout the winter. Last year I got a shot and only got sick once. So who the fuck knows if they help.
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Falcon does not need this just stay away from heme-iron you will be ok.
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Fuck no warrior... not after reading what goes into those fucking things.
I havent been sick since I enlisted in the military and they shot me up with like 100 different compounds.
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Fuck no warrior... not after reading what goes into those fucking things.
I havent been sick since I enlisted in the military and they shot me up with like 100 different compounds.
Enlighten us please... what goes into these that is so worrisome?
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Enlighten us please... what goes into these that is so worrisome?
Last time I saw ingredients shit like aluminum and all kinds of odd animal hormones. No thanks.
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Last time I saw ingredients shit like aluminum and all kinds of odd animal hormones. No thanks.
Animal hormones like steroids?
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Animal hormones like steroids?
no.
like random sex hormones from female monkeys.
dont know how accurate it was, but I havent had one since 08 and ibhavent gotten sick, so I felt zero need to inject myself with aluminum and parts of animals.
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Getting sick every now and then is pretty natural, happens to animals as well.
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There is no evidence of harm caused by the small amounts of thimerosal (trace amounts of aluminum used as a preservative in multi dose vials) in flu vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site. Flu vaccines that do not contain thimerosal are available.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vaccine-decision/ingredients.html (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vaccine-decision/ingredients.html)
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Hmm... formaldehyde.
Ill continue to pass and not get sick.
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Thimerosal = mercury
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Fuck flu shots , NEVER got one never will. Marketing 101 flu shit is another scam
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Thimerosal = mercury
Will also pass.
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Getting sick every now and then is pretty natural, happens to animals as well.
This. Everybody want pills and shots for everything.
I never get flu shots and I'm rarely sick except for the common cold now and then.
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Getting sick every now and then is pretty natural, happens to animals as well.
Getting sick in the animal kingdom almost means certain death. it was the same for humans for thousands of years.
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Depends on the field you work in. In healthcare you are a f'n idiot to not gey one and most places make it mandatory.
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Depends on the field you work in. In healthcare you are a f'n idiot to not gey one and most places make it mandatory.
yeah I can understand that.
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yeah I can understand that.
Remember the assembly line style in bootcamp? Lol
Some dumbass in our company passed out and fell straight forward. He was about 6'4" and the wall was only 5 ft away. It was awesome. He was a doofus.
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Remember the assembly line style in bootcamp? Lol
Some dumbass in our company passed out and fell straight forward. He was about 6'4" and the wall was only 5 ft away. It was awesome. He was a doofus.
hahaha, as I stated earlier, I havent been sick SINCE the assembly line.
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hahaha, as I stated earlier, I havent been sick SINCE the assembly line.
Assholes couldnt make us do anything physical the rest of that afternoon but killed us the next day.
I laugh now when people say they are afraid of shots. Really? Have two people giving you shots in each arm, some with guns and who dont give two shits if it "hurts". Haha
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getting it tomorrow
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Got mine about three weeks ago. Now that I have a baby, the doctor recommends it.
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The flu vaccine, meant to protect you against the flu virus, is a complete waste of time and money. That can be explained in simple terms and with studies as well.
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Getting sick in the animal kingdom almost means certain death. it was the same for humans for thousands of years.
I know, "survival of the fittest", but those days are gone. More important, most meds fuck with your health (immune system issues, etc), so everything comes with a price... Don't get me wrong, I'm not a tree hugger that refuses to take meds, but a flu doesn't harm most people.
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The flu vaccine, meant to protect you against the flu virus, is a complete waste of time and money. That can be explained in simple terms and with studies as well.
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ok?
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Fuck flu shots , NEVER got one never will. Marketing 101 flu shit is another scam
X2.
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flushots are "free" for ontario residents... obviously we pay taxes to cover them... but might as well get one... they are available in any drug store
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flushots are "free" for ontario residents... obviously we pay taxes to cover them... but might as well get one... they are available in any drug store
They're free but you pay taxes for them? How does that work? And it seems a dangerous mindset to have.
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They're free but you pay taxes for them? How does that work? And it seems a dangerous mindset to have.
Right?
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They're free but you pay taxes for them? How does that work? And it seems a dangerous mindset to have.
socialism in action dude
welcome to canada
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socialism in action dude
welcome to canada
thats right eh
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I avoid the hell out of sick people and don't eat take away when there's something going around.
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ok?
I made this post a while back within another thread that in particular discussed worldwide vaccinations.
Here are my reasons as to why the Flu vaccine is a waste.
First, I will give you a simplified explanation as to why "I" believe they are useless (for the most part) and if you desire literary proof from peer-reviewed studies, I can guide you to a group of studies as well.
Let's delineate the most important parts to my argument first:
- Viruses are smart & adaptive.
- The Flu vaccine isn't a "perfect bullet" able to encompass strain variability.
- Antibody stimulation & production is not always achieved by way of a single vaccine, especially when trying to target a large pool of viruses, which constitute the total picture of influenza infection.
- The efficacy of the flu vaccine wears off after 6-8 months
Viruses are smart and adaptive
Viruses are smart critters and highly adaptive to the environment, or better said vector, which they dwell within. Once a virus enters the body of one person it adapts to its surroundings and slowly experiences various mutations to the original strain. By the time the virus travels from the original host to about the 10th person, it has become immune to many defenses and mutated into a pretty versatile strain. Ergo, if you think that by getting a vaccine for the original strain will help you avoid catching the flu, what isn't taken into account is that the strain which you will now catch is completely different from what your body is able to defend itself against. Consider the new strain a "2.0" version that has smartened up and realized that someone is after it and found ways to dodge the original bullet shot towards its trajectory.
The Flu vaccine isn't a "perfect bullet" able to encompass strain variability.
Feeding off from the information stated in my first point. Since you can not produce flu vaccines on a daily, weekly or even monthly basis, the microbiologists and virologists that put together these vaccines do so in a way that attempts to provide a "universal" vaccine that can hopefully aid in keeping people protected. Unfortunately, in an ever-changing world, where viruses can mutate from person-to-person, it's futile to even think that a flu vaccine will do much.
Antibody stimulation & production is not always achieved by way of a single vaccine, especially when trying to target a large pool of viruses, which constitute the total picture of influenza infection.
Alright, so you get a vaccine and what you are truly getting are bits and pieces of inactivated viruses in order to stimulate production of antibodies towards the most popular strains of the virus that causes the worst type of disease manifestations. Now, putting aside what I mentioned previously about viruses being smart and adapting to their new environments (regardless of how harsh the environment is and the immune response staged by lymphocytes within our body), lets consider the fact that even if you have been vaccinated, your body might still not be ready or capable to truly tackle the virus if you are exposed to it.
Why?
Consider these points:
Morphology (as previously mentioned) leading to your body being incapable of identifying the new strain.
Becoming infected much too soon before your body is capable of producing adequate antibodies to stage a full-blown attack. If you get infected within less than 10 days after receiving that vaccine, you will not have enough antibody production to properly fend off that virus.
Your immune system can't recognize the FULL VIRUS once you are infected by it, because you were vaccinated (as mentioned earlier) with mere fragments of various forms of flu viruses and not identical or intact matches. If your body doesn't recognize the host virus that infects you in its entire form, the defense that is staged is not as potent as it would be if you had a complete virological blueprint of the strain.
Co-morbidity drains your system of its ability to stage a true attack against the virus. So, imagine you're presently battling a bad case of bronchitis, gastroenteritis or any other form of bad bacterial and/or viral infection and then you get hit with that devastating strain of the flu that everyone has been talking about. What happens next? You guessed it. Your body is incapable of properly staging an attack due to an already weakened immune system not being capable of serving (or in this case waging war on) two masters.
The efficacy of the flu vaccine wears off after 6-8 months
Lapse in time since becoming vaccinated and becoming exposed. If you get vaccinated at the beginning of the year and you get exposed to the virus (regardless of its mutations) 7-8 months later, it might not have the same efficacy due to the vaccination losing its effectiveness over time. Unlike the type of antibodies your body produces from a naturally acquired infection, a flu vaccine does not produce the same lifelong and potent antibodies that your body produces when it is exposed to a natural infection with it's subsequent disease process and recovery (this is backed by the CDC, the proof of that can be seen in this pamphlet put out by the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/flu/downloads/PL-dis-influenza-color-office.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/flu/downloads/PL-dis-influenza-color-office.pdf)).
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That's my basic argument as to why the flu vaccine does not work as intended (universal bullet) or being as effective as some proclaim it to be. Remember though, I am not a virologist or microbiologist. I have a strong medical background (was pre-med and got a degree in Biology and Chemistry -BS & MS- prior to going into business), but I am not on the leading edge of medical research.
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-Never had one and not planning on getting one anytime soon. I don't get the flu either, BTW.
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I was just going to post this
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My brother got his last year and it gave him the flu. I'll pass.
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Got mine about three weeks ago. Now that I have a baby, the doctor recommends it.
Same here.
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I made this post a while back within another thread that in particular discussed worldwide vaccinations.
Here are my reasons as to why the Flu vaccine is a waste.
- The Flu vaccine isn't a "perfect bullet" able to encompass strain variability.
No one says it is. It just has some of the most common strains but there are lots of new ones every year that mutate and develop.
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Fuck NO. Never again. Got one 3 years ago and my BP went out of control in one day. Had to go on and still on meds. I did not 100% connect that to the shot.....so I got one last year. BP went even higher. skin turned to red itchy welts, severe flu like pains, diahrea, had to go on prenisone. Doc says "NO MORE shots for you."
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Its a FACT that vitamin D levels dip drastically in the fall, winter, and spring months. It would be best advised to supplement 5,000 iu a day, at least and take in some extra vitamin C or eat some foods high in vitamin C to maintain a healthy immune system.
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Its a FACT that vitamin D levels dip drastically in the fall, winter, and spring months. It would be best advised to supplement 5,000 iu a day, at least and take in some extra vitamin C or eat some foods high in vitamin C to maintain a healthy immune system.
Any scientific papers to substantiate that assertion?
"Most evidence on vitamin D and calcium is available for bone health. Thus the recommendations of the Institute of Medicine (IOM) panel released on November 30, 2010 (1) are largely based on bone health and call for 600 IU of vitamin D daily for all ages up to age 70 and 800 IU after age 71. This assumes that most people get little sun exposure. The panel raised the safe upper limit of 2,000 IU daily to 4,000 IU for adults, and declares a safe upper limit of 1,000 to 3,000 IU per day in children depending on their age. "
Source: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/vitamin-d-fracture-prevention/
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I have never had a flu shot or had the flu the shot will make you sick, doctors telling you shit to get money.
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I have never had a flu shot or had the flu the shot will make you sick, doctors telling you shit to get money.
I didn't get sick but that afternoon I was sweating a lot and a lot at night but had a good workout the next day and feel fine now. Even the nurse said this year it is milder than years past. A couple years ago I felt warm and sluggish for a few days afterwards.
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I think you're better off getting the flu than putting something into your body that's controlled by a government agency for the most part. Although the flu will suck ballz, you're body will remember having it in and be better able to fight it off in the future imop. If you get the flu, use it as a chance to really clean up your diet and get lean. Don't hit the gym but diet really strict. Use it as some kind of "reset" Ctrl/Alt/delete for your body...
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I think you're better off getting the flu than putting something into your body that's controlled by a government agency for the most part. Although the flu will suck ballz, you're body will remember having it in and be better able to fight it off in the future imop. If you get the flu, use it as a chance to really clean up your diet and get lean. Don't hit the gym but diet really strict. Use it as some kind of "reset" Ctrl/Alt/delete for your body...
Some people with weaker immune systems or generally poor health are more susceptible to catching the flu and having a hard time with it. People do still die from the flu. As I mentioned, one reason I don't get a flu shot is because I have never had the flu. Generally, I have excellent health. My wife on the other hand, gets a flu and a pneumonia shot every year.