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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: befit124 on December 30, 2005, 04:32:27 PM
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According to Bob, Craig and Kelly were straying from the sport. If they were why were they involved in the WPI. I think they strayed from the IFBB and not the sport, and it probably hurt some feelings. I'm not sure that leaving the IFBB was a smart move but it does show some ambition, don't you think. Just something to think about.
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According to Bob, Craig and Kelly were straying from the sport. If they were why were they involved in the WPI. I think they strayed from the IFBB and not the sport, and it probably hurt some feelings. I'm not sure that leaving the IFBB was a smart move but it does show some ambition, don't you think. Just something to think about.
Thats what Bob was referring to.
He thinks bodybuilding must be revolved around the IFBB....but it makes sense because Bob is the IFBB athlete's rep.
Not trying to defend Bob...cause he can do it himself...but why would a rep from another division support someone from a different stance or someone trying to break away from the norm?
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Befit-
You're assuming the WPI was legit, and not just a scam to rake in some money from fools wishing to part with it.....
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Befit-
You're assuming the WPI was legit, and not just a scam to rake in some money from fools wishing to part with it.....
& the IFBB is much different
explain this reasoning?
I understand your loyalty....it's commended....
but why be a sheep when you can be the Sheppard
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yes, the IFBB is MUCH different. Your actually going to compare a federation thats been around since 1947 to a organization started by Craig (well, not really started) which he and Kelly announced, backed out of, and then recanted and became involved in again.... 0 credability, no financial backing, no sponsors no judges,no officials no venues, no show dates, and finally...NO MEMBERS????
You can agree or disagree with the IFBB all you want, but comparing it to a ficticious "federation"based in fantasyland, which never even got off the ground...is ludicrious at best.
"Shepard" my ass....Get the Flock out of here....!!
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You're assuming the WPI was legit, and not just a scam to rake in some money from fools wishing to part with it.....
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
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WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
THANK YOOOOOOOOOU!
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yes, the IFBB is MUCH different. Your actually going to compare a federation thats been around since 1947 to a organization started by Craig (well, not really started) which he and Kelly announced, backed out of, and then recanted and became involved in again.... 0 credability, no financial backing, no sponsors no judges,no officials no venues, no show dates, and finally...NO MEMBERS????
You can agree or disagree with the IFBB all you want, but comparing it to a ficticious "federation"based in fantasyland, which never even got off the ground...is ludicrious at best.
"Shepard" my ass....Get the Flock out of here....!!
Thats all great any everything. Btw, are you a salaried employee if the IFBB?
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Thats all great any everything. Btw, are you a salaried employee if the IFBB?
no shit
besides....the IFBB likes followers people like Bob.
;D
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no shit
besides....the IFBB likes followers people like Bob.
;D
Sorry my typo's were in thick on that post.
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Thats all great any everything. Btw, are you a salaried employee if the IFBB?
No, I'm not actually
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No, I'm not actually
Oh OK. So why would you go out of your way to thrash someone who is trying to do something "good". Sure you mentioned that his intentions were not "good" but when we log off this computer your statements are nothing more then speculation!!!
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No, I'm not actually
So what do you actually get from the IFBB for being the athlete's rep? I don't want to speculate anything so I would rather find out before I talk.
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Why would anyone not like someone ambitious enough to try their own gig?
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Why would anyone not like someone ambitious enough to try their own gig?
I dont know we are waiting for the "athlete's rep" response.
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WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
WPI was a scam from minute one.
dude whats with kissing chicks ass? ever since he threatened you months ago , you been kissing up on every thing he says! ???
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So what do you actually get from the IFBB for being the athlete's rep? I don't want to speculate anything so I would rather find out before I talk.
I get a big fat ZERO...it's not a paid position, actually, it costs ME money if you want to get down to it. The position of "Athletes Representative" isn't an IFBB position..it's a position that represents the ATHLETES (thus the name). If anything, the items I present for approval on behalf of the athletes are not in favor of the IFBB, they're in the best interests of the athletes.
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dude whats with kissing chicks ass? ever since he threatened you months ago , you been kissing up on every thing he says! ???
240's just imitating Chick talking to Ben Weider. ;D
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No, I'm not actually
so whats your inviolvement in bodybuilding since you dont compete, seems craig and kelly been much more invovled then you over the last yr! basically we just see pics of you hanging out at parties after the shows , is that what is considered being in the loop?
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so whats your inviolvement in bodybuilding since you dont compete, seems craig and kelly been much more invovled then you over the last yr! basically we just see pics of you hanging out at parties after the shows , is that what is considered being in the loop?
In a nutshell to talk shit.
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so whats your inviolvement in bodybuilding...
He models shiney blue shirts at official IFBB functions.
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dude whats with kissing chicks ass? ever since he threatened you months ago , you been kissing up on every thing he says! ???
When Bob threatened me, I responded in typical 240 fashion. There is a page out there with the "flowers" I sent him.
However, since then I have learned that randomly taking shots at pros is bad for business. When I start being positive for 5 minutes, I get many chances to make a living off this sport/industry. The Titus page was good for keeping the focus on Craig/human side of things in the media's eye, and it was good for me, business-wise. While I have been (and still can be) a prick sometimes, keeping things positive feels better, and gets better results for everyone involved.
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When Bob threatened me, I responded in typical 240 fashion. There is a page out there with the "flowers" I sent him.
However, since then I have learned that randomly taking shots at pros is bad for business. When I start being positive for 5 minutes, I get many chances to make a living off this sport/industry. The Titus page was good for keeping the focus on Craig/human side of things in the media's eye, and it was good for me, business-wise. While I have been (and still can be) a prick sometimes, keeping things positive feels better, and gets better results for everyone involved.
i think u need to get kline to hook you up with some andogens and get that rage back kid! ;D
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i think u need to get kline to hook you up with some andogens and get that rage back kid! ;D
I'll still throw shots when I see fit.
Besides, Cline would give me a good deal, then call Crimestoppers after I left his house!
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He models shiney blue shirts at official IFBB functions.
He's trying to become known as Pirate Bob in bodybuilding
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so whats your inviolvement in bodybuilding since you dont compete, seems craig and kelly been much more invovled then you over the last yr! basically we just see pics of you hanging out at parties after the shows , is that what is considered being in the loop?
you don't follow the sport very close, do you?
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you don't follow the sport very close, do you?
Bob, I think he was asking for a explanation to what you actually do? He has solid points.
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you don't follow the sport very close, do you?
the answer is no....
but then again....like the article in Flex magazine...nobody knows what the hell you do that post on internet boards
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the answer is no....
but then again....like the article in Flex magazine...nobody knows what the hell you do that post on internet boards
Who the hell reads Flex Magazine, old guys who've never heard of the internet?
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flex is irrelevent these days as are all the muscle rags
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flex is irrelevent these days as are all the muscle rags
You buy Flex if you wanna read a re-hash of stuff that was out on Getbig a month ago. ;D
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Big and Goat are spot-on, but I do intend to reply to Chad's anti-FBB-porn rant in MD from a few months ago.
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Flex Magazine February 2006:
"Breaking News: Craig Titus and Kelly Ryan Charged with Murder... on the run, and believed headed for Greece."
;D
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Flex Magazine February 2006:
"Breaking News: Craig Titus and Kelly Ryan Charged with Murder... on the run, and believed headed for Greece."
;D
Shit....
Craig can be excuted tomorrow & in Flex's 2007 December issue, Ronnie will be on the cover as 9 time Mr Olympia doing arm curls & Craig will be mentioned as "breaking news...Titus - Executed"
nothing like breaking edge news
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lol YEAH monster bicep curls
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you don't follow the sport very close, do you?
sport ;D
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bob you really make very little sense, so what your saying is if graig and kelly renewed thier ifbb membership for 06 this crime would have been an ifbb event? dude im laughing as i type this , i cant help it! ;D
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No, I didn't say that at all...you're an idiot. Please don't post anymore....
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Chick, I don't get this exercise (either) . . . WTF?
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I guess the IFBB can have a clear conscious because Craig & Kelly didn't renew
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Why would tthe IFBB give a shit? This crime wasn't committed at an IFBB event, show, expo, or anything remotely connected with it.
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Why would tthe IFBB give a shit? This crime wasn't committed at an IFBB event, show, expo, or anything remotely connected with it.
Of course the IFBB wouldn't.....
it's because the IFBB is a scam & a joke of an organization. No different than the money making scma Crag was trying to build.
If these two were in the NFL....who do you think would have to step up & greet the press?
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so just what are youi expecting to come fom the IFBB? Why would they even comment on two former members that denounced the org, and voluntarily left the federation to start their own?
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how many years were they dues paying members? i wouldnt expect much but perhaps an acknowledgement that they were members at one time. other than that ..zero should be expected.
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how many years were they dues paying members? i wouldnt expect much but perhaps an acknowledgement that they were members at one time. other than that ..zero should be expected.
yeah, if I quit my job, then rob a bank and break my arm fleeing, I'm not going to expect my FORMER employer to call me up to offer medical coverage and bail money.
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Chic,
I dont know you personally, but I believe regardless of your competition schedule or placings, you genuinely want to do more for the athletes.
My wife and I have been competing and involved in bodybuilding for 3 years or so now. She has rapidly advanced to national level competitions. We have friends that recently turned pro and compete nationally also. Myself, I run an automobile dealership and earn a good living outside of thinking I would ever be pro. I say all of this to say that I am amazed how little money goes back to the athletes.
Many people have encouraged my wife to do things that would probably aid in her size and etc. however, wtf for? theres no money and her opportunities to get shoots and things from her beautiful physique are better now than gambling pushing the limits for a procard and no purses.
Men are in the same boat too. the fitness industry and supplement companys make money hand over fist but give nothing back. how hard would it be to insure that every pro competitor in a show receives some compensation? I may be blind, but I feel that profits that are generated out there the bottom man in the olympia could still be paid?
Rambling. I think Chic has the professionalism and attitude, from what I have seen to atleast be an active rep. (fighting a losing battle). A friend that is a retired pro told we one time that the sport will never give the athlete the respect they deserve because they can get the next wanna be mr. o to sponsor the products or do the photoshoot for 1/2 the money or most the time for nothing. vanity is our nemisis.
just my 2 pennies.
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how many years were they dues paying members? i wouldnt expect much but perhaps an acknowledgement that they were members at one time. other than that ..zero should be expected.
It's been established that they were pro bodybuilders/ fitness competitors in the IFBB....now what? Why is this relevant in any way shape, or form?
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It's been established that they were pro bodybuilders/ fitness competitors in the IFBB....now what? Why is this relevant in any way shape, or form?
we're conducting an investigation or is that privileged information?
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so just what are youi expecting to come fom the IFBB? Why would they even comment on two former members that denounced the org, and voluntarily left the federation to start their own?
this is funny
I like how you're quick to point out "former" members
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this is funny
I like how you're quick to point out "former" members
The funniest part is that he defends the IFBB. The IFBB does not pay him shit for his efforts. Yet he will defend the IFBB for what? With all due respect he is a pro bodybuilder that does not compete. ???
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The funniest part is that he defends the IFBB. The IFBB does not pay him shit for his efforts. Yet he will defend the IFBB for what? With all due respect he is a pro bodybuilder that does not compete. ???
& to be very honest....
It took him forever to get his pro card in his beloved IFBB.
Once he obtained it....he placed poorly & rarely competes like his buddy Sheri
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for how many years was craig titus a dues paying member of the IFBB
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No, I didn't say that at all...you're an idiot. Please don't post anymore....
dude your the idiot thats going on these news station juiced up and saying craigs a drug user, you need to take a good look in the mirror! you dont have rings of sweat under your arms in every photo you take because your not on something thats increasing your metabolism artificially! ::)
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In baseball or football or whatever major sport, if a star or someone gets in trouble many times they come forward to support the guy. Like with drugs. In fact they even put them through rehab. They will come forward and say this or that person needs help and we are behind him. The IFBB on the other hand would no way show any kind of support in this instance because of its severity. And to tell you the truth I don't they would ever show support for any of their BB's. It is just the Weider way. Hopefully when Joe becomes ill or real sick everyone will show him the same support he has shown.
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In baseball or football or whatever major sport, if a star or someone gets in trouble many times they come forward to support the guy. Like with drugs. In fact they even put them through rehab. They will come forward and say this or that person needs help and we are behind him. The IFBB on the other hand would no way show any kind of support in this instance because of its severity. And to tell you the truth I don't they would ever show support for any of their BB's. It is just the Weider way. Hopefully when Joe becomes ill or real sick everyone will show him the same support he has shown.
Chick doesn't want to hear this
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Hopefully when Joe becomes ill or real sick everyone will show him the same support he has shown.
He's got money, he doesn't need their support. Besides, I'm sure he has the support of his family and close friends... what does he care what a bunch of useless roid-monkeys think of him?
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In baseball or football or whatever major sport, if a star or someone gets in trouble many times they come forward to support the guy. Like with drugs. In fact they even put them through rehab. They will come forward and say this or that person needs help and we are behind him. The IFBB on the other hand would no way show any kind of support in this instance because of its severity. And to tell you the truth I don't they would ever show support for any of their BB's. It is just the Weider way. Hopefully when Joe becomes ill or real sick everyone will show him the same support he has shown.
yes onlyme, and dont try to herd cats either, they are all independent contractors too.
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I get a big fat ZERO...it's not a paid position, actually, it costs ME money if you want to get down to it. The position of "Athletes Representative" isn't an IFBB position..it's a position that represents the ATHLETES (thus the name). If anything, the items I present for approval on behalf of the athletes are not in favor of the IFBB, they're in the best interests of the athletes.
So basically you are a self ellected unpaid rep for pro bodybuilding contestents. And you are unpaid because few of the pro bodybuilders really make any money and they are not going to give you any of what little if any they do make.
So much for the bodybuilding "industry." It can't even sustain the contestents much less a contestent rep.
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you don't follow the sport very close, do you?
The sport? What "sport?"
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It's been established that they were pro bodybuilders/ fitness competitors in the IFBB....now what? Why is this relevant in any way shape, or form?
Then why did you even go on the news programs?
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In baseball or football or whatever major sport, if a star or someone gets in trouble many times they come forward to support the guy. Like with drugs. In fact they even put them through rehab. They will come forward and say this or that person needs help and we are behind him. The IFBB on the other hand would no way show any kind of support in this instance because of its severity. And to tell you the truth I don't they would ever show support for any of their BB's. It is just the Weider way. Hopefully when Joe becomes ill or real sick everyone will show him the same support he has shown.
Excellent observation!
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Then why did you even go on the news programs?
i recall he said they were like dropouts or something
he really provided no information
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i recall he said they were like dropouts or something
he really provided no information
You know, Chick was well spoken but really gave no substance. He was there to act like Craig and Kelly really had nothing to do with bodybuilding. Which was and is a lie.
Here's the thing: Bodybuilding does not need to be saved from Craig and Kelly. Bodybuilding needs to be saved from itself.
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He was there to act like Craig and Kelly really had nothing to do with bodybuilding. Which was and is a lie.
Bob Chick tapdancing:
But...but...but.... they haven't paid their 2006 IFBB dues yet!
Uhhh.... Bob.... it's still 2005, and Craig & Kelly both have paid-up 2005 IFBB cards.
But...but...but.... for all intents and purposes 2005 was over with the Olympia!
Uhhh.... Bob....regardless, it's still 2005, and these people you're disowning are current, paid, members of your organization.
But...but...but.... they told someone who told someone who told someone who told me they weren't gonna compete anymore, so they were "retired"!
Uhhh...Bob... none of that changes the fact that they are both fully-paid members in good standing of your organization through the end of 2005.
But...but...but... *bob's head explodes, bloodying his shiny blue shirt*
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i'm still trying to ascertain how many years they were IFBB members
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The IFBB doesn't do anything for it's dues paying members now, why the hell would they step up for Craig and Kelly in this situation? ::)
How cute... Rochesterians sticking up for one another. ::)
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No, just stating that. They get no health or any benefits. You have to pay them to be a member...etc etc. So they are really going to help them now? lolololoz
No one expects the IFBB to help them, but for Bob to go and act like they aren't part of IFBB pro bodybuilding is just being disingenuous.
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it appears that the IFBB organization is as supportive as
a bag of diarrhea
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Sorry, I forgot I was dealing with someone with a limited education.
Here's a link to the word's definition: http://www.answers.com/disingenuous&r=67
In the future I'll try to keep my word usage more simple when talking to you.
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Could ya do that Grey Poupon boy? Thanks. :-*
No problem, Bertha! ;)
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we use dry mustard and create different flavors
none of the saralee crap here
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it's no different than the NFL, NBA or Professional Baseball...
thats one of the reason the IFBB will never be considered a sport
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Those organizations pay you to participate. There is a BIG difference.
Both organizations are still making money off of the participants.
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it's no different than the NFL, NBA or Professional Baseball...
thats one of the reason the IFBB will never be considered a sport
You are right. And that's just one of many reasons.
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So? If you get hurt in football, baseball, you still get paid.
Only if it's during practise or the game
Get ready for a comp and get hurt you get nothing. You don't get anything unless you place in a contest.
So why would they do anything for C & K? [/color] [/size][/font] ::)
Because other organizations will at least speak up on their behalf or have some sort of representation
These other organizationsare can't afford any tarnished image of their participants. They are looked as role models for kids.
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blame it on: SUNSET BOULEVARD
lol