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Researchers at Connecticut College have found evidence that proves that Oreo cookies—at least for lab rats—are as addictive as cocaine.
Neuroscience senior Jamie Honohan devised the study in order to research the impact of high-fat and high-sugar foods in low-income neighborhoods:
“My research interests stemmed from a curiosity for studying human behavior and our motivations when it comes to food,” said Honohan. “We chose Oreos not only because they are America’s favorite cookie, and highly palatable to rats, but also because products containing high amounts of fat and sugar are heavily marketed in communities with lower socioeconomic statuses.”
To carry out the study, Honohan and two other students devised a maze. On one side of the maze, hungry rats would find an Oreo. On the other side, hungry rats would find (groan) rice cakes. Unsurprisingly, all the rats gravitated toward the Oreo, and like all cultured creatures, they would “
break it open and eat the middle first.”
The researchers compared the results of their study to a similar study in which rats were either given a shot of cocaine or morphine on one side of the maze or a shot of saline on the other. It turns out that the rats conditioned with Oreos spent as much time on the “drug” side of the maze as those who were conditioned with actual drugs.
Even more worrisome, the researchers found that the Oreos “activated significantly more neurons than cocaine or morphine.” :o So basically, if you give a mouse a cookie, who knows what the fuck he'll ask for next. He might ask for some coke, but he'll definitely want more cookies.
In conclusion, junk food is incredibly addictive, Oreos are delicious, and that other side of the maze sounds like a terrible place to be.
from gawker
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if we knew about what they put in all these snacks... we probably wouldnt touch one again. Kind of shit that fuck with your brain chemicals.
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The researchers compared the results of their study to a similar study in which rats were either given a shot of cocaine or morphine on one side of the maze or a shot of saline on the other. It turns out that the rats conditioned with Oreos spent as much time on the “drug” side of the maze as those who were conditioned with actual drugs.
1. Is "time spent on that side of the maze" really a good proxy for addictiveness?
2. How were the "shots" of morphine and cocaine administered in the other study, and how might this affect the comparability of results (e.g., some of the neuronal activation present with the oreos will be the rats operating their sensorimotor systems to actually eat the cookies, neuronal activation not present in the cocaine study if the rats just lay down and got injected).
3. Were both items in the maze equally difficult to reach?
4. How can firm conclusions about oreo-cocaine relations be asserted when the study compared to had both cocaine AND morphine administered on the drug side of the maze?
5. Maybe the rats stay on the side of the maze with a preferred item for a set amount of time independent of the item itself (they could have a "preferred item found" behavioral routine that kicks in with enough neuronal activation and that doesn't vary once the threshold is reached).
6. What sort of neuronal activation took place? Which brain areas were activated most (in both studies)? Why is it "worrisome" that the oreos activated more neurons than cocaine/morphine when the stated proxy of addictiveness -- "time spent on that side of the maze" -- was the same in both studies?
7. Why didn't they just compare oreos and cocaine directly, in a single study?
8. Either the senior should've acquired the cocaine to do a proper study, or he shouldn't have made any firm conclusions about oreo-cocaine relations. Shame on him and whatever piece of shit media group is reporting this as a definitive result.
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I've never scraped oreos off of a mirror/picture frame at 5 in the morning.
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pankcake ass would not hit
Anyone try the candy corn flavor oreos out for Halloween?
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Damn Kate needs to hit the squat rack!
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just tried the mega stuffed oreos not long ago.....honestly, too much stuff.
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just tried the mega stuffed oreos not long ago.....honestly, too much stuff.
Yeah I agree after just having two of them, it's just too much.
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just tried the mega stuffed oreos not long ago.....honestly, too much stuff.
Lightweight.
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Then the white fudge covered oreos at christmas time would be crack.
oreos vs rice cakes... oreos win, shocked I tell, shocked.
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if we knew about what they put in all these snacks... we probably wouldnt touch one again. Kind of shit that fuck with your brain chemicals.
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Its not a secret and it certainly is not dangerous or nefarious in any way.
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They could have just put rat pellets or cheese in place of the oreos and the same thing would have happened. Moronic study.
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I'm a Chips Ahoy guy. One serving is one row. ;D
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I'm a Chips Ahoy guy. One serving is one row. ;D
C'mon bro keep it bodybuilding related, we're talking about cookies where you can lick the cream off. lol.
I had a buddy and after each bodybuilding contest after we went out to eat, he would sit down (he had to sit in a large recliner or comfy chair in front of the TV) with a half gallon of milk and Chips Ahoy (extra chips) and eat the whole box and drink the entire half gallon of milk. LOL OCD Bastard
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Not a damn thing in that study proved oreos is as addictive as cocaine.
Get those rats high off Cocaine for 6 hours a day and feed them enough Oreos to munch on for 6 hours a day. Do that for 3 months, cut off everything for 24 hours, then put those damn rats back in a cage where one side is cocaine and one side is oreos. We'll see if they pick Oreos over cocaine.
We all know they'll pick the one that helps their brain feel normal again.
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My desire to be in shape is stronger than my desire to snack on cookies.
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salted peanuts are like crack to me :P
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don't like oreo's
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salted peanuts are like crack to me :P
don't like oreo's
Nice. I'm that way with jumbo salted cashews. Like butter.
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Just when I thought skinner box science couldn't get any junkier.
Oreos are foul. That 'filling' is like sweetened candle wax. People don't buy them owing to an addiction. They've just had so much industrialized food pushed on them that they don't know any better. It's sad that such garbage is considered an indulgence. If you gave them an actual petit four then they'd see the light, but I guess you can't leave those on a shelf for a decade.
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At my work -bakeries plant- where we manipulate and create "processed" food, "cooks" (machine operators) are given jugs and bags of different ingredients, there are no names on these jugs; just chemical formulas written on the label. "Cooks" only mix them together following a recipe given to them by the managing staff without knowing what is inside only trying to respect their productivity schedule. It looks like floor, it looks like cookery, different fluids, colorants in various containers, you just mix everything in a machine...had to do it twice to replace someone out of the blue. Again, you dont know what is inside, the ingredients come from other plants and so on, and are originally designed in laboratories. Needless to say you dont ask anyone , especially your superior, what is inside. First because they dont know, dont give a fuck, second because everyone simply wants to keep his job. Again, if you want to know, you d have to ask the two or three persons at the very top of the company. Quality controls are done by people who are... employed by the company.
There s a reason why people prefer some types of brands other than the shitty cheap ones or prefer the big brands even over unaltered natural products; because there is something "special" in the more expensive, best appreciated products; chemicals designed to get you addicted to them. You dont know what is inside most of snacks/ processed foods coming mainly from plants. There is also a reason why most people find them more addictive than entirely natural products. The chemicals used are for appearance -cake has to look good in its box for weeks- and taste.
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altho there are many variables that syntaxmachine points out that could skew the results of this study, i actually find the premise to be interesting.
oreos aside, i wouldnt be shocked to learn that eating ones favourite cheat food would trigger a dopamine dump. makes total sense esp when you take into consideration craving, and binging.
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cool design
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At my work -bakeries plant- where we manipulate and create processed food, "cooks" (machine operators) are given jugs and bags of different ingredients, there are no names on these jugs; just chemical formulaes written on the label. "Cooks" only mix them together without knowing what is inside trying to respect their productivity schedule. It looks like floor, it looks like cookery, you just mix everything in a machine...had to do it twice to replace someone out of the blue. Again, you dont know what is inside, the ingredients come from other plants and so on, and are originally designed in laboratories. There s a reason why people prefer some types of brands other than the shitty cheap ones; because there is something "special" in the more expensive, best appreciated products; chemicals designed to get you addicted to them. You dont know what is inside most of snacks. There is also a reason why most people find them more addictive than entirely natural products.
Thanks for the inside scoop. Hope they don't sue you for breaking that nondisclosure agreement, bro.
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Just when I thought skinner box science couldn't get any junkier.
Oreos are foul. That 'filling' is like sweetened candle wax. People don't buy them owing to an addiction. They've just had so much industrialized food pushed on them that they don't know any better. It's sad that such garbage is considered an indulgence. If you gave them an actual petit four then they'd see the light, but I guess you can't leave those on a shelf for a decade.
Philistine! We here at Getbig only eat madeleines, and then only in the fullness of time.
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Thanks for the inside scoop. Hope they don't sue you for breaking that nondisclosure agreement, bro.
Im gonna get fired in 2 days... anyways ;D And btw, it's the same in all plants that's just how it works. As long as it tastes good people dont care.
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Philistine! We here at Getbig only eat madeleines, and then only in the fullness of time.
Ch-ya! You know I'm the guy who ate that chili in a can not so long ago, right?
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Ch-ya! You know I'm the guy who ate that chili in a can not so long ago, right?
Real Getbiggers don't take their chili in the can. ;D
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salted peanuts are like crack to me :P
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don't like oreo's
So easy it's not even fair ;D
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Fat & sugar together in just about any form is incredibly addictive. Nothing special about Oreos and the MYSTERIOUS UNLABELED INGREDIENTS ;D
Curiously, this combo is never really found in nature..... chances are, our brain just can't deal w it
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Wonderful news, this is going to save me a pretty penny from now on.