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Yeah, math is math. Truly brilliant. And none of the people who worked on Obamacare were as smart as Dave Ramsey, you say? They don't know that "math is math", is that it?
I actually think Ramsey might be able to count to 100. How about you?
What he says about capping premiums is completely wrong, BTW.
Oh, I forgot, you're the fake Navy vet who just cuts and pastes any anti-Obama crap you find online.
Sorry about that. Carry on. After all, a schmuck is a schmuck.
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Yeah, math is math. Truly brilliant. And none of the people who worked on Obamacare were as smart as Dave Ramsey, you say? They don't know that "math is math", is that it?
I actually think Ramsey might be able to count to 100. How about you?
What he says about capping premiums is completely wrong, BTW.
Oh, I forgot, you're the fake Navy vet who just cuts and pastes any anti-Obama crap you find online.
Sorry about that. Carry on. After all, a schmuck is a schmuck.
Refute the piece or stfu twink.
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Yeah, math is math. Truly brilliant. And none of the people who worked on Obamacare were as smart as Dave Ramsey, you say? They don't know that "math is math", is that it?
I actually think Ramsey might be able to count to 100. How about you?
What he says about capping premiums is completely wrong, BTW.
Oh, I forgot, you're the fake Navy vet who just cuts and pastes any anti-Obama crap you find online.
Sorry about that. Carry on. After all, a schmuck is a schmuck.
havent watched the clip, but you have shown yourself to be incredibly ignorant about this law and the health care system in general.
I have serious doubts of whether or not you understand how insurance works.
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havent watched the clip, but you have shown yourself to be incredibly ignorant about this law and the health care system in general.
I have serious doubts of whether or not you understand how insurance works.
Ramsey explained EXCATLY how insurance works in this clip and why ObamaCare is a DISASTER - well worth watching
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/20/little-competition-insurers-some-states-obamacare-plans/2986795
Wow - epic FAIL
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havent watched the clip, but you have shown yourself to be incredibly ignorant about this law and the health care system in general.
I have serious doubts of whether or not you understand how insurance works.
I'm sorry, Champ, but I do believe there is a considerable lack of knowledge reflected in your rabid posts - specifically forgetting or not knowing how the fine is computed.
Happy to have helped you on that one, but everyone's patience has a limit.
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havent watched the clip, but you have shown yourself to be incredibly ignorant about this law and the health care system in general.
I have serious doubts of whether or not you understand how insurance works.
LOl its the other way around actually.
He knows a lot more than you Tony and his posts show it.
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LOl its the other way around actually.
He knows a lot more than you Tony and his posts show it.
Look at this canadian idiot.
Reminds me of the chump, little brother egging on his bigger brother to fight.
HEHEHEHE!! "He knows more than you..." What the hell?
Meanwhile, the video posted by 3333 remains unrefuted by the libtards.
Thread OVER.
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http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/20/no-more-apologies-why-obama-has-to-get-mad-about-his-broken-obamacare-websites/?iid=sl-main-lead
LMFAO!!!! Ha ha ha liberal mental patients in sheer denial and delusion
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Look at this canadian idiot.
Reminds me of the chump, little brother egging on his bigger brother to fight.
HEHEHEHE!! "He knows more than you..." What the hell?
Meanwhile, the video posted by 3333 remains unrefuted by the libtards.
Thread OVER.
Is that you Tony? :)
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Is that you Tony? :)
no - the clip is self explanatory - ObamaCare is a fucking disaster.
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Is that you Tony? :)
Is that you blacken, lurker, clueless nitwit?
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The fact that the fucking website doesn't even work is enough to show what a disaster this is. Really, they couldn't get the damn site to work after all the fucking trouble they went through to force this criminal monstrosity onto all of us?!! How libfags can even defend any part of this is astonishing. It is one big step closer to complete control of all citizens. Yeah yeah yeah I know I'm a conspiracy nutjob teabagger right? Explain to me how creating a federal monopoly helps stimulate business?
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Seeing how this crybaby always makes up shit to claim is in the videos he posts (but never seems to be), who is going to waste any time watching your crybaby clips?
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Seeing how this crybaby always makes up shit to claim is in the videos he posts (but never seems to be), who is going to waste any time watching your crybaby clips?
Here you go leftist asswipe
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2469945/New-study-shows-6-million-youth-school-work-49-states-INCREASE-families-living-poverty.html
49 states - increasing poverty under your ghetto savior
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You talk shit about someone from another country having an opinion on US politics and yet link an article from the UK to support your claims?
Is rampant hypocrisy another one of your mental issues as well?
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Paul Ryan dismantles "Obamacare" to Obama's face...
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/88695-flashback-paul-ryan-takes-obamacare-6-minutes/
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http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/10/21/obamacare-call-center-down-president-encourages-phone-registration
LMFAO!
booom
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You talk shit about someone from another country having an opinion on US politics and yet link an article from the UK to support your claims?
Is rampant hypocrisy another one of your mental issues as well?
As long as the information provided is accurate then it shouldnt matter if an Australian shows evidence from an Italian article. The facts are all that matters, and as someone from the UK that isn't at all involved i have to say, from what i've gathered, Obamacare is seriously flawed.
You are the people that will have to suffer for it, but if there's a solid plan for national intergration then you have to give it time to prove itself a long term success or a failure and not buy into knee jerk reactions from the opposition. Afterall, it was the nation that not only elected Obama, but re-elected him for a second term so there's no going back.
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Outstanding. Sobering. He is absolutely right.
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As long as the information provided is accurate then it shouldnt matter if an Australian shows evidence from an Italian article. The facts are all that matters, and as someone from the UK that isn't at all involved i have to say, from what i've gathered, Obamacare is seriously flawed.
You are the people that will have to suffer for it, but if there's a solid plan for national intergration then you have to give it time to prove itself a long term success or a failure and not buy into knee jerk reactions from the opposition. Afterall, it was the nation that not only elected Obama, but re-elected him for a second term so there's no going back.
Tell that to the hypocrites who cry and deride other posters for it.
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no - the clip is self explanatory - ObamaCare is a fucking disaster.
I responded to a post by Dario asking if he was Tony and i get a reply from you.
Spooky.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/21/verizon-hhs-healthcare-site-fix/3144761
LMFAO!!!
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Obamacare's Exchanges are Still Broken, and Obama's Speech Shouldn't Give Anyone Confidence They'll Work Soon
Peter Suderman|Oct. 21, 2013 12:38 pm
Whitehouse.govWhitehouse .govThree weeks after the deeply troubled launch of Obamacare’s health insurance exchanges, President Obama gave a speech responding to some of the problems that have plagued the government-run online enrollment system. The most revealing thing about it was what he didn’t say.
Obama was somewhat more blunt than he has been about the system’s failures. “There's no sugarcoating it. The website has been too slow. People have getting stuck during the application process. And I think it's fair to say that nobody's more frustrated by that than I am,” he said. “There's no excuse for the problems.”
No excuse—and no explanation either. Obama acknowledged some problems with the site. But he didn’t say why they happened, when they would be resolved, or what the administration’s specific plan was to get things working.
That’s rather telling. If President Obama was confident that the online exchange system was on track to be fixed in short order, that would have been the highlight of his message. It wasn’t. Indeed, much of his speech was devoted to arguing that Obamacare is more than just a website, and to explaining how people who want coverage can still enroll in coverage outside the exchanges. Phone help and paper applications, he said, provided an alternative method of enrollment.
But full processing of paper applications can’t be done easily without a functioning online system. At best, it’s a process that takes weeks; a document is filled out for you, then mailed to your home, then mailed back again, after which you can expect to wait another week or so to find out if you qualify for subsidies.
Just a few weeks ago, Obama was telling people that the exchanges would be as simple to use as Amazon, or an online travel reservation site like Kayak.com. Now he’s telling people they must rely on a phone and paper process that is, at best, extremely slow.
Obama's speech, in other words, was designed to tell people how Obamacare could work without the online exchanges. Which strongly suggests that he and the rest of the administration believe that, at least for the time being, that's the only way it's going to.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-house-deems-health-glitches-unacceptable-gop-calls-obamacare-doa-article-1.1491281
blame blame blame
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-house-deems-health-glitches-unacceptable-gop-calls-obamacare-doa-article-1.1491281
blame blame blame
Yes thats all you do while others get things done.
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Refute the piece or stfu twink.
Only if you ask me nicely, numbskull.
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Only if you ask me nicely, numbskull.
In other words, you can't refute it.
THREAD OVER!!
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In other words, you can't refute it.
THREAD OVER!!
Here's how it works. Soul Crusher publishes an anti-Obama broadside that he just copies and pastes in a post. Than he asks for a refutation. If I produced one, he would just copy and paste more stuff. Never offers a rational argument, just name calling, etc.
Now, if he were going to simply argue his case in his post, I would be happy to respond with a counter argument. But I am not interested in playing the dueling cut and paste game. If you are, then search for "Republican falsehoods about Obamacare", and you'll be all set to play with him yourself.
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Here's how it works. Soul Crusher publishes an anti-Obama broadside that he just copies and pastes in a post. Than he asks for a refutation. If I produced one, he would just copy and paste more stuff. Never offers a rational argument, just name calling, etc.
Now, if he were going to simply argue his case in his post, I would be happy to respond with a counter argument. But I am not interested in playing the dueling cut and paste game. If you are, then search for "Republican falsehoods about Obamacare", and you'll be all set to play with him yourself.
FAIL
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And still no refuting the clip.
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FAIL
OK. I'll give you the short version on Ramsey's video. First, I agree with him about math being math, and I would say that it was probably unnecessary for him to spend so much time on that. Makes him sound stupid.
When he pointed out that your premiums will not depend on your condition, and cited that as a fatal flaw, he forgot one thing.
The new demographic tables created by actuaries in response to the provisions of the Affordable Healthcare Act build in the costs for people with medical conditions into the rates for everyone. So there is no fatal flaw. In fact, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has stated that the financial calculations underpinning the policy changes are well supported.
So it passes the "math is math" test that so many people, according to Big Dave, don't know about.
Feel better now? No? Not surprising.
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People were promised $2500 rate decrease remember?
OK. I'll give you the short version on Ramsey's video. First, I agree with him about math being math, and I would say that it was probably unnecessary for him to spend so much time on that. Makes him sound stupid.
When he pointed out that your premiums will not depend on your condition, and cited that as a fatal flaw, he forgot one thing.
The new demographic tables created by actuaries in response to the provisions of the Affordable Healthcare Act build in the costs for people with medical conditions into the rates for everyone. So there is no fatal flaw. In fact, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has stated that the financial calculations underpinning the policy changes are well supported.
So it passes the "math is math" test that so many people, according to Big Dave, don't know about.
Feel better now? No? Not surprising.
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People were promised $2500 rate decrease remember?
You're right - he said that would happen by the end of his first term - it didn't.
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FAIL
At least he didnt reply with a copy-paste :-\