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Title: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2013, 05:56:08 AM
Hey guys, pretty sweet deal you got there, you got a concession that was already in the law. Meanwhile, cost the US 26 billion, upset millions and basically fucked up the economy a little. You won! Ted Cruz is brilliant for not understanding the definition of impossible. Trying to accomplish a futile task while directly inflicting suffering on your fellow man is grade a fucking brilliant!

Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 07:00:57 AM
Worked out great for the republicans. China has downgraded our credit rating anyway. So now your boy has presided over not one, but two credit rating downgrades. Now I'll sit back and laugh at how you spin this like all you ass hanging dingleberries will and look so stupid in doing so that it's entertainment.

Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2013, 08:47:03 AM
Worked out great for the republicans. China has downgraded our credit rating anyway. So now your boy has presided over not one, but two credit rating downgrades. Now I'll sit back and laugh at how you spin this like all you ass hanging dingleberries will and look so stupid in doing so that it's entertainment.



So sabotaging the economy was the goal? got it, good job you win.

Spin what? you lose, you got nothing but increases in unpopularity. Sit back and laugh retard, your making your country proud.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 09:10:16 AM
So sabotaging the economy was the goal? got it, good job you win.

Spin what? you lose, you got nothing but increases in unpopularity. Sit back and laugh retard, your making your country proud.

Obama = bad credit president forever. You can't change it. In fact Obama is happy... How many times has he said taking the USA down a few notches was his goal? So in that respect he's doing a bang up job.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 09:42:18 AM
Hey guys, pretty sweet deal you got there, you got a concession that was already in the law. Meanwhile, cost the US 26 billion, upset millions and basically fucked up the economy a little. You won! Ted Cruz is brilliant for not understanding the definition of impossible. Trying to accomplish a futile task while directly inflicting suffering on your fellow man is grade a fucking brilliant!

don't forget damaging their "brand" even further while just infuriating the teabaggers even more (a group that is also now enjoying an all time low in their approval rating)
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: 240 is Back on October 17, 2013, 09:51:00 AM
public perception during the shutdown was much more damaging to repubs.

we will see, in a week or two, if that effect continued or if things reversed.

Also, the new nate silver numbers will be interesting.  Repubs have been quoting nate silver nonstop since he predicted the repubs will narrowly win the senate.  Now that the shutdown has shifted public perception so much - - - if nate silver's numbers change, will repubs still call him credible ?
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 09:54:30 AM
public perception during the shutdown was much more damaging to repubs.

we will see, in a week or two, if that effect continued or if things reversed.

Also, the new nate silver numbers will be interesting.  Repubs have been quoting nate silver nonstop since he predicted the repubs will narrowly win the senate.  Now that the shutdown has shifted public perception so much - - - if nate silver's numbers change, will repubs still call him credible ?

I believe Silver said a few days ago that the public would forget all about this come election time but who knows what will happen between now and then.   It's like trying to predict the weather 2 years from now
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 10:26:31 AM
don't forget damaging their "brand" even further while just infuriating the teabaggers even more (a group that is also now enjoying an all time low in their approval rating)


Congress approval 11%.

Republicans 14%

Democrats 5%.... Yes 5%.

Great post you dumb shit. Obama owns this mess and parroting cnn will not change that.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2013, 10:28:46 AM
Congress approval 11%.

Republicans 14%

Democrats 5%.... Yes 5%.

Great post you dumb shit. Obama owns this mess and parroting cnn will not change that.

Aliens 21%

Fecal undulations 11%

Alabama ditch pig prostitutes 69%

Great post you dumb shit, Albama ditch pig sluts own this and no one can deny my stats
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 10:31:09 AM
Aliens 21%

Fecal undulations 11%

Alabama ditch pig prostitutes 69%

Great post you dumb shit, Albama ditch pig sluts own this and no one can deny my stats

Are you implying my numbers are incorrect? Please in your infinite wisdom post the real numbers then. Or... Maybe go find the latest polls showing my numbers are indeed correct. Intellectual dishonesty... Hallmark of a libtard.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 10:38:16 AM
Congress approval 11%.

Republicans 14%

Democrats 5%.... Yes 5%.

Great post you dumb shit. Obama owns this mess and parroting cnn will not change that.

great job showing the source of your data

try something like this

Here is a link to a poll from NBC/Wall Street Journal which shows:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/Oct_poll.pdf

"Very Positive" rating for Obama @ 26 %
"Very Positive" for Repubs @ 7% (all time low point for them in this poll)
Very Positive for Dems @ 14%
Very Positive for Teabaggers @ 9%
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 10:38:58 AM
Are you implying my numbers are incorrect? Please in your infinite wisdom post the real numbers then. Or... Maybe go find the latest polls showing my numbers are indeed correct. Intellectual dishonesty... Hallmark of a libtard.

who the fuck knows since you didn't bother to post  link

Hallmark of a right wing moron
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 10:45:28 AM
Are you implying my numbers are incorrect? Please in your infinite wisdom post the real numbers then. Or... Maybe go find the latest polls showing my numbers are indeed correct. Intellectual dishonesty... Hallmark of a libtard.

Here's another one for you my thick headed friend

http://www.gallup.com/poll/165317/republican-party-favorability-sinks-record-low.aspx
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 11:03:27 AM
great job showing the source of your data

try something like this

Here is a link to a poll from NBC/Wall Street Journal which shows:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/Oct_poll.pdf

"Very Positive" rating for Obama @ 26 %
"Very Positive" for Repubs @ 7% (all time low point for them in this poll)
Very Positive for Dems @ 14%
Very Positive for Teabaggers @ 9%

Lol@ very positive... Left out the overall numbers and really proud of 26% rofl.

I'm at work linking embedding is an issue for me... The polls are out there to see stop being lazy and go look for yourself. Overall numbers for dems in congress 5% approval rating. Not just very favorable or very unfavorable. Overall. Don't just post what favors you... Makes you look unintelligent.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
Lol@ very positive... Left out the overall numbers and really proud of 26% rofl.

So you did make up the numbers?
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 11:08:04 AM
So you did make up the numbers?

Look a post above.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 11:09:32 AM
Lol@ very positive... Left out the overall numbers and really proud of 26% rofl.

I'm at work linking embedding is an issue for me... The polls are out there to see stop being lazy and go look for yourself. Overall numbers for dems in congress 5% approval rating. Not just very favorable or very unfavorable. Overall. Don't just post what favors you... Makes you look unintelligent.

where is the link to your #'s

simple request

post it or stop posting poll #'s
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 11:31:27 AM
where is the link to your #'s

simple request

post it or stop posting poll #'s

Here you go went and get my phone.

Enjoy lol at your self ownage.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/165281/congress-job-approval-falls-amid-gov-shutdown.aspx

Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 11:32:25 AM
And I was wrong it's republican 15% democrat 5 % lol.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: headhuntersix on October 17, 2013, 11:40:10 AM
Aliens 21%

Fecal undulations 11%

Alabama ditch pig prostitutes 69%

Great post you dumb shit, Albama ditch pig sluts own this and no one can deny my stats

I have u ever been to Alabama douchbag......please stop, where exactly in Canada are you from anyway.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 11:47:21 AM
Well? Where are you two? All I hear is crickets now. Lol.

NOW GO GET YOUR SHINEBOX BITCHES.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 11:52:35 AM
Here you go went and get my phone.

Enjoy lol at your self ownage.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/165281/congress-job-approval-falls-amid-gov-shutdown.aspx



great job

you finally learned how to post a link

This is why I wanted you to show the source

Do you realize what you've posted is Dems opinion of their own party in Congress

So Dems give Dems a 5% approval and Repubs give Repubs an 11% approval

I'm sure if they polled Teabaggers on how well they liked their Teabagger members they would get even higher ratings than Dems or Repub give their own members

Much more telling are the Approval/Disapproval rating for the party as a whole from ALL members of ALL Parties

Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 11:53:35 AM
Well? Where are you two? All I hear is crickets now. Lol.

NOW GO GET YOUR SHINEBOX BITCHES.

LOL - dumbass

I have other things to do so can't respond back to every post immediately

you should probably start looking for your shinebox dumbass
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 11:57:40 AM
great job

you finally learned how to post a link

This is why I wanted you to show the source

Do you realize what you've posted is Dems opinion of their own party in Congress

So Dems give Dems a 5% approval and Repubs give Repubs an 11% approval

I'm sure if they polled Teabaggers on how well they liked their Teabagger members they would get even higher ratings than Dems or Repub give their own members

Much more telling are the Approval/Disapproval rating for the party as a whole from ALL members of ALL Parties



Let's see where you got that info from please. Nice try though.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 12:02:08 PM
Let's see where you got that info from please. Nice try though.

you really thick aren't you

it's right there on the image that I posted

"Congressional Job Approval BY POLITICAL PARTY"

You'll notice that the two other categories are "national adults" and "independents"

You'll also notice this sentence in the same image:

"The big drop in Democrats' approval of Congress most certainly reflects Democrats' negative views of the Republican-controlled House, in which leadership has publicly demanded that the president and Democrats in Congress agree to changes in the Affordable Care Act as a condition for passing a continuing resolution or a budget."

nice self ownage

did you find your shinebox yet ?

Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 12:07:23 PM
you really thick aren't you

it's right there on the image that I posted

"Congressional Job Approval BY POLITICAL PARTY"

You'll notice that the two other categories are "national adults" and "independents"

You'll also notice this sentence in the same image:

"The big drop in Democrats' approval of Congress most certainly reflects Democrats' negative views of the Republican-controlled House, in which leadership has publicly demanded that the president and Democrats in Congress agree to changes in the Affordable Care Act as a condition for passing a continuing resolution or a budget."

nice self ownage

did you find your shinebox yet ?



Rofl. You cannot be this dumb. That IS NOT what that means and of your serious stay out of political discussions. It means the question is asked about each party individually... Not answered by each party individually. You don't even realize how bad you just self owned yourself. Seriously. I now know your a clown.

Thick Nick 2 Dumbass self owning libtards 0. Where's that other ass Necrodumbass? Lol man you are dumb.

NOW GO GET YOUR SHINEBOX FOR REAL YOU ARE MY BIOTCH FOREVER.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 12:10:17 PM
Where did you go Nick?

Looking for your shinebox ?

You should keep in handy for future reference
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 12:12:24 PM
Where did you go Nick?

Looking for your shinebox ?

You should keep in handy for future reference

You just got what the fuck owned again. Now go away you clown. I posted before you did dumbass.

 and where's that other idiot?
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 12:17:34 PM
Rofl. You cannot be this dumb. That IS NOT what that means and of your serious stay out of political discussions. It means the question is asked about each party individually... Not answered by each party individually. You don't even realize how bad you just self owned yourself. Seriously. I now know your a clown.

Thick Nick 2 Dumbass self owning libtards 0. Where's that other ass Necrodumbass? Lol man you are dumb.

NOW GO GET YOUR SHINEBOX FOR REAL YOU ARE MY BIOTCH FOREVER.

slight correction but you're still WRONG

This poll is showing EACH PARTIES approval rating of Congress

that's why it starts out with National Adults


National Adults give Congress and 11% approval rating

Dems give Congress a 5% approval rating (for all of Congress)

Repubs give Congress a 15% approval rating (for all Congress)

You seem to think this poll shows that All Voters give Dems a 5% approval rating

Is that what you believe?

Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 12:19:20 PM
slight correction but you're still WRONG

This poll is showing EACH PARTIES approval rating of Congress

that's why it starts out with National Adults


National Adults give Congress and 11% approval rating

Dems give Congress a 5% approval rating (for all of Congress)

Repubs give Congress a 15% approval rating (for all Congress)

You seem to think this poll shows that All Voters give Dems a 5% approval rating

Is that what you believe?





Wrong. You really are dumb and don't even realize how bad you are being owned you need to stop now and realize I got you. Thick Nick 3  you 0. please just stop it's embarrassing.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 12:23:46 PM


Wrong. You really are dumb and don't even realize how bad you are being own you need to stop now and realize I got you sick and it three you zero please just stop it's embarrassing.

I'm correct

this poll shows approval ratings for Congress by party affiliation

that's why it has a category for All National Adults and also for independents

the poll does not say the Dems have a 5% approval rating and Repubs have a 15% approval rating

Is that what you believe it says?

Yes or No

This is an intelligence test so take your time and think for a moment

I'm going to help you out by reposting the same paragraph that appears right above the poll findings

Quote
"The big drop in Democrats' approval of Congress most certainly reflects Democrats' negative views of the Republican-controlled House, in which leadership has publicly demanded that the president and Democrats in Congress agree to changes in the Affordable Care Act as a condition for passing a continuing resolution or a budget."
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 12:31:39 PM
Did you figure it out yet Nick?

Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 12:35:03 PM
No where does it say what you are saying. It says approval rating of congress by party. It doesn't say approval ratings by party. National adults give  congress overall 11%. They then give ratings for each party...overall vs each party individually.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 12:43:58 PM
No where does it say what you are saying. It says approval rating of congress by party. It doesn't say approval ratings by party. National adults give  congress overall 11%. They then give ratings for each party...overall vs each party individually.



Think McFly

It says National approval BY PARTY

each party is rating congress as a whole

if you think that Dems have a 5% approval rating in congress then you must also think there is a party called "National Adults" that has members in congress and that those members of the "national adult" party have a 11% approval rating

I don't really know how you can't understand this sentence

it's telling you right there that they are specifically talking about THE DEMOCRATS approval OF CONGRESS

Quote
"The big drop in Democrats' approval of Congress most certainly reflects Democrats' negative views of the Republican-controlled House, in which leadership has publicly demanded that the president and Democrats in Congress agree to changes in the Affordable Care Act as a condition for passing a continuing resolution or a budget."
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Dos Equis on October 17, 2013, 12:45:34 PM
The deal sucks.  Doesn't solve the root problem.  Actually makes it worse.  Kicks the can down the road.  Stay tuned for another "crisis" in January.  They should all be fired.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 12:58:50 PM
The deal sucks.  Doesn't solve the root problem.  Actually makes it worse.  Kicks the can down the road.  Stay tuned for another "crisis" in January.  They should all be fired.

shutting down the government and threatening to default on our debt (which could have actually destabilized the global credit markets) certainly doesn't help the "root problem" ( whatever it is you actually think that is)
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 12:59:47 PM
Nick - you still there ?
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 01:21:29 PM
Math is not my best subject but here goes:

5.something or other (polls are rounded)
15.5 something or other
=
20.something or other
•\•
2
= 10.something or other or
11.

Can you follow that. Your saying that is a total coincidence? It's who they asked not who they were asking about? Is that what your saying? And the numbers just magically arched perfectly by coincidink?


Your seeing what you want to see because you can't fathom that people are blaming the dems. I found the poll by listening to national pundits on Sunday talking about it...the paragraph you keep quoting is prolly some other fool in denial. If I'm wrong then so are the Sunday national pundits.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 01:26:34 PM
Math is not my best subject but here goes:

5.something or other (polls are rounded)
15.5 something or other
=
20.something or other
•\•
2
= 10.something or other or
11.

Can you follow that. Your saying that is a total coincidence? It's who they asked not who they were asking about? Is that what your saying? And the numbers just magically arched perfectly by coincidink?

do you understand that the poll you posted is NOT about approval ratings of each party in Congress but rather approval rating by each party of Congress as a whole

yes or no?
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
It's a simple  question Nick and there is only one right answer

Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Thick Nick on October 17, 2013, 01:38:34 PM
do you understand that the poll you posted is NOT about approval ratings of each party in Congress but rather approval rating by each party of Congress as a whole

yes or no?

Do you? Cause that is exactly what it is... The little line you keep highlighting shows Democrats are pissed off at their own party as well as the republicans. It's not me saying that's what it is... Go YouTube Sunday morning shows... It's what they are saying as well.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2013, 01:42:57 PM
Do you? Cause that is exactly what it is... The little line you keep highlighting shows Democrats are pissed off at their own party as well as the republicans. It's not me saying that's what it is... Go YouTube Sunday morning shows... It's what they are saying as well.

Yes, I think the poll is exactly what the title says

Congressional Job Approval BY POLITICAL PARTY

so your belief that this polls shows that Dems in Congress have a 5% approval rating and Repubs in Congress have a 15% approval rating is 100% wrong.

You simply misunderstood what this poll was showing and then ran with it

Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: JBGRAY on October 17, 2013, 03:42:05 PM
The Republicans were kicking and screaming in an attempt to thwart Obamacare and it backfired on them considerably. Defaulting on our debt obligations and other bills would only make future borrowing costs increase for both government and the private citizenry. If one is wanting to decrease spending, then you have to stop the specific bills that dictate actual spending. This was only just staving off the inevitable, a future default and no changes to bad spending habits.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: tonymctones on October 17, 2013, 04:56:48 PM
Hey guys, pretty sweet deal you got there, you got a concession that was already in the law. Meanwhile, cost the US 26 billion, upset millions and basically fucked up the economy a little. You won! Ted Cruz is brilliant for not understanding the definition of impossible. Trying to accomplish a futile task while directly inflicting suffering on your fellow man is grade a fucking brilliant!


LMFAO when liberals inflict suffering on their fellow man, its ok but when a republican does you become indignant?

where do you get the $26 Billion number from?
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: RRKore on October 17, 2013, 08:55:32 PM


Wrong. You really are dumb and don't even realize how bad you are being owned you need to stop now and realize I got you. Thick Nick 3  you 0. please just stop it's embarrassing.

Sorry that you stepped on your dick here, Nick, but you're wrong.  (Unless this is part of a gimmick by which you demonstrate that you are just trying to be mentally "thick" to live up to you nom d' getbig, "Thick Nick" -- In which case you're very clever and I applaud you.)

Anyway, Straw is right; In the table, "Democrats 5%" in the "October 2013 column represents the percentage of Democrats who approve of the job performance of Congress as a whole (i.e., ALL of congress; dems, repubs, and independents) in 2013. 

It should be clear that this is so (even to the thickest of readers) when you notice it shows "National Adults 11%" in the October 2013 column in the same table. -- Not to hard to figure out that this means only 11% of adults in the nation approve of congress' job performance and DOES NOT MEAN that 11% of national adults approve of the job performance of "National Adults".  Clear now? 

Be a man and admit you were wrong.  You can even throw in some excuses about how the table was hard to read on your phone or that right-tards like yourself are at a disadvantage because of the lower IQ or whatever.  Dipshit.
Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: RRKore on October 17, 2013, 09:23:46 PM

where do you get the $26 Billion number from?

http://www.businessinsider.com/sp-cuts-us-growth-view-2013-10#ixzz2hvqUh2s6

Estimates seem to vary but ratings agency Standard & Poor says it's about $24 Billion:
The ratings agency — which recognizes the Senate deal will be approved — says that the shutdown has taken $24 billion out of the economy and cut 0.6% off of yearly fourth quarter GDP growth.

BTW, the senate bill was approved by the house 285 - 144.  Hilarious how fractured the normally lockstep repubs are these days.



Title: Re: How did that deal work out?
Post by: Necrosis on October 18, 2013, 04:22:21 AM
LMFAO when liberals inflict suffering on their fellow man, its ok but when a republican does you become indignant?

where do you get the $26 Billion number from?

S&P