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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Roger Bacon on October 19, 2013, 06:35:51 PM
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Karen Lewis for the teacher’s union in Chicago is letting everyone know that it must be the “rich white people” who cause the black children to fail. according to lewis, if youre white and try to make decisions for children educationally as a whole, instead of singling them out based on their color, you are a hindrance to their advancement.
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So shes pro segregation. Got it.
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Rich white people don't send their kids to public school. Yet another desperate attempt to make excuses for poor academic performance. What she wants is lower standards for minority students (not Asian though, they do just fine on their own). In their feeble minds, it's always going to be white peoples fault.
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Is it rich white peoples fault she is a fat girl?
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somebody needs to slap jabba the hut
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Is it rich white peoples fault she is a fat girl?
Food be racist!
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YES!! Score one for those cracka honkeys!!!
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Rich white people don't send their kids to public school. Yet another desperate attempt to make excuses for poor academic performance. What she wants is lower standards for minority students (not Asian though, they do just fine on their own). In their feeble minds, it's always going to be white peoples fault.
She has a valid point. Why would rich white people who don't send their kids to public schools want to have to support public schools to begin with? ...especially those not in their own neighbourhoods? That's a little redundant don't you think?
I know I for one am not too thrilled about knowing portions of MY property taxes go to support Catholic schools, ...as well as secular public schools. I don't have kids. If I had the option to redistribute funding, it would be in my own SELF-interest to see as little of my tax dollars going towards public education. I'm sure anyone without kids can easily see that viewpoint. I'm not saying it's right, or even productive in the long run, simply that that's their POV. All she's doing is highlighting it. One would have to be a fool or disengenous twist her statement or to not recognize what she's saying.
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She has a valid point. Why would rich white people who don't send their kids to public schools want to have to support public schools to begin with? ...especially those not in their own neighbourhoods? That's a little redundant don't you think?
I know I for one am not too thrilled about knowing portions of MY property taxes go to support Catholic schools, ...as well as secular public schools. I don't have kids. If I had the option to redistribute funding, it would be in my own SELF-interest to see as little of my tax dollars going towards public education. I'm sure anyone without kids can easily see that viewpoint. I'm not saying it's right, or even productive in the long run, simply that that's their POV. All she's doing is highlighting it. One would have to be a fool or disengenous twist her statement or to not recognize what she's saying.
A large percentage of parents of children attending inner city schools don't even pay taxes and very few participate and encourage their children's education. First, you have to prove that rich white people are influencing school policy intentionally and then you have to make the case that what they are advocating is ultimately detrimental to the students. Poor performance alone is no indication a conspiracy of meddling rich white people is sabotaging inner city students.
As someone who worked in education in the inner city and grew up in the inner city, I can tell you first hand that rich white people are the least of their problems. This is simple scapegoating and you would have to be blind not to see it. Instead of addressing their fundamental dysfunctional cultural shortcomings it's much easier to blame the white phantom menace.
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A large percentage of parents of children attending inner city schools don't even pay taxes.
Agreed. That's part of the point she's making. The majority of the tax base is outside of these neighbourhoods, and as such the decision making power is ALSO outside of these neighbourhoods.
First, you have to prove that rich white people are influencing school policy intentionally and then you have to make the case that what they are advocating is ultimately detrimental to the students. Poor performance alone is no indication a conspiracy of meddling rich white people is sabotaging inner city students.
As someone who worked in education in the inner city and grew up in the inner city, I can tell you first hand that rich white people are the least of their problems. This is simple scapegoating and you would have to be blind not to see it.
I don't belief she's saying they are intentionally sabotaging inner city schools. I also don't believe she is scapegoating affluent whites as the reason for poor performance. I believe she shares the same perspective as you regarding the problems of inner city schools. Her point is that the decision makers are taking much too simplistic an approach, without having front line knowledge of what the challenges are for these students.
She is saying that she wants to see this war fought by Generals and front line troops, not accountants.
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Instead of addressing their fundamental dysfunctional cultural shortcomings it's much easier to blame the white phantom menace.
Wow! Well I can see you've since edited your comments. That speaks volumes!!!
Had I seen that earlier, I would have trusted my first instincts and realized the futility of trying to clarify something so readily apparent to those with an open mind. You can continue to believe whatever you choose to believe. Reason is wasted on you.
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:D
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Wow! Well I can see you've since edited your comments. That speaks volumes!!!
Had I seen that earlier, I would have trusted my first instincts and realized the futility of trying to clarify something so readily apparent to those with an open mind. You can continue to believe whatever you choose to believe. Reason is wasted on you.
It's impossible to deny the dysfunction within the black community. Rampant violence, broken homes and murder are clear indications something is wrong.
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It's impossible to deny the dysfunction within the black community. Rampant violence, broken homes and murder are clear indications something is wrong.
...says the American to the Canadian. ::)
Ever stop to think that perhaps it is an AMERICAN problem?
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...says the American to the Canadian. ::)
Ever stop to think that perhaps it is an AMERICAN problem?
;D
Bumb for Archer77.
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...says the American to the Canadian. ::)
Ever stop to think that perhaps it is an AMERICAN problem?
Why don't you compare statistics. I have and you might be surprised by what you find. Didn't you just make a blatantly racist comment in another thread?
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Why don't you compare statistics. I have and you might be surprised by what you find. Didn't you just make a blatantly racist comment in another thread?
She was comparing statistics.
Murders in America compared to the rest of the civilized world :)
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;D
Bumb for Archer77.
Since the original subject of discussion is an American from Chicago and she is talking about the american educational system it can be assumed that all discussion thereafter is relevant to the context of the american educational system.
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Wherever you look - Kenya, South Africa, congo, Moombasa where Obama was born, Detroit, etc - same garbage and dysfunction.
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She was comparing statistics.
Murders in America compared to the rest of the civilized world :)
I never said we were taking about any other civilized country besides the United States. The conversation was confined to the black community within the United States from the beginning thus it is at it's core an american problem because we are discussing americans. This fact seemed obvious to me.
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I never said we were taking about any other civilized country besides the United States. The conversation was confined to the black community within the United States from the beginning thus it is at it's core an american problem because we are discussing americans. This fact seemed obvious to me.
Your posts have been spot on. Dont even acknowledge whork...he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed ;D
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Since the original subject of discussion is an American from Chicago and she is talking about the american educational system it can be assumed that all discussion thereafter is relevant to the context of the american educational system.
This was the quote we referred to:
It's impossible to deny the dysfunction within the black community. Rampant violence, broken homes and murder are clear indications something is wrong.
You make it a race thing not an educational thing.
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Your posts have been spot on. Dont even acknowledge whork...he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed ;D
Thats just mean Johnny.
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This was the quote we referred to:
It's impossible to deny the dysfunction within the black community. Rampant violence, broken homes and murder are clear indications something is wrong.
You make it a race thing not an educational thing.
Derp.
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This was the quote we referred to:
It's impossible to deny the dysfunction within the black community. Rampant violence, broken homes and murder are clear indications something is wrong.
You make it a race thing not an educational thing.
one moron, he didnt make it a race thing the HIPPO in the video made it a race thing.
two dumb ass, to deny that it is a cultural issue which is outlined by race is ignorant and idiotic...AKA liberal foreigner...so par for the course for youre retarded ass
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This was the quote we referred to:
It's impossible to deny the dysfunction within the black community. Rampant violence, broken homes and murder are clear indications something is wrong.
You make it a race thing not an educational thing.
It is a race thing. The bloated beast made it about race in the first place.
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It is a race thing. The bloated beast made it about race in the first place.
Yup.
But there is plenty of black people in Canada no?
Why dont they have race problems there?
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Yup.
But there is plenty of black people in Canada no?
Why dont they have race problems there?
Cultural differences and percentage of population. Canada is irrelevant to what we are discussing.
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Haha, there are probably more black people in chicago alone than all of canada.
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Cultural differences and percentage of population. Canada is irrelevant to what we are discussing.
True.
Africa is a shithole that alone proves your point.
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True.
Africa is a shithole that alone proves your point.
Exactly..none of these libs ever has an excuse for the continent of africa and why they are the only major race to have never developed a higher level civilization
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Lmao! How did you find this match?!
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Exactly..none of these libs ever has an excuse for the continent of africa and why they are the only major race to have never developed a higher level civilization
Europeans came along and halted African progress.
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Europeans came along and halted African progress.
ha!
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Europeans came along and halted African progress.
Without those meddling Europeans they might have had the wheel by now.
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I didnt realize that wonky-eyed, canadian huckster still posted on here.
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Exactly..none of these libs ever has an excuse for the continent of africa and why they are the only major race to have never developed a higher level civilization
Excuse me? :o
What on earth do they teach in American schools? ...and does it bare any resemblance to the truth?
Africa developed the highest civilization to have ever existed on the planet.
Humans have been trying to re-create the same heights ever since, and have been failing miserably.
Europeans came along and halted African progress.
LOL, That would be the understatement of the ages. Unfortunately, Africans grew fat, lazy, and arrogant, secure in the knowledge that they would continue to rule the planet as they always have. Pride (and hubris) comes before a fall. Remind you of anyone?
The true wealth of a nation lays not in her bank accounts, trade balances, or oil deposits, but in her people. Nations who fail to recognize this, forget it, or simply choose to ignore this, do so at their own peril. Their demise inevitably follows. When you strip the nation of her wealth and her identity, you destroy her very foundation.
The barbarous, uncivilized hoards of Europe fvcked Africa over, and have been exploiting her wealth & resources ever since. But nothing man-made, rooted in ignorance, and incomplete lasts forever.
As was once written 'Those that were first, shall be last, and those that were last, shall be first". For every thing, there is a time and a season, ...and The Great Wheel will continue to turn.
This aberration of European dominance over Africa, or even the rest of the planet, when placed in context is but a blip, a mere fraction of a second relative to the eons of existence on this little 3rd rock from the Sun.
Europe finally got to experience her 'day in the Sun'. She experienced her 'renaissance' (re-birth) out of the 'dark ages', ...but have you ever stopped to ask yourselves why that little recorded time of history is even referred to as "the dark ages"? ....hmmm, ...now that's something to ponder now isn't it? :P
It is written "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" have a gander at a little bit of truth (http://stewartsynopsis.com/europe_conquered_by_africans.htm)
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Excuse me? :o
What on earth do they teach in American schools? ...and does it bare any resemblance to the truth?
Africa developed the highest civilization to have ever existed on the planet.
Humans have been trying to re-create the same heights ever since, and have been failing miserably.
LOL, That would be the understatement of the ages. Unfortunately, Africans grew fat, lazy, and arrogant, secure in the knowledge that they would continue to rule the planet as they always have. Pride (and hubris) comes before a fall. Remind you of anyone?
The true wealth of a nation lays not in her bank accounts, trade balances, or oil deposits, but in her people. Nations who fail to recognize this, forget it, or simply choose to ignore this, do so at their own peril. Their demise inevitably follows. When you strip the nation of her wealth and her identity, you destroy her very foundation.
The barbarous, uncivilized hoards of Europe fvcked Africa over, and have been exploiting her wealth & resources ever since. But nothing man-made, rooted in ignorance, and incomplete lasts forever.
As was once written 'Those that were first, shall be last, and those that were last, shall be first". For every thing, there is a time and a season, ...and The Great Wheel will continue to turn.
This aberration of European dominance over Africa, or even the rest of the planet, when placed in context is but a blip, a mere fraction of a second relative to the eons of existence on this little 3rd rock from the Sun.
Europe finally got to experience her 'day in the Sun'. She experienced her 'renaissance' (re-birth) out of the 'dark ages', ...but have you ever stopped to ask yourselves why that little recorded time of history is even referred to as "the dark ages"? ....hmmm, ...now that's something to ponder now isn't it? :P
It is written "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" have a gander at a little bit of truth (http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/europe_conquered_by_africans.html)
:P
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Excuse me? :o
What on earth do they teach in American schools? ...and does it bare any resemblance to the truth?
Africa developed the highest civilization to have ever existed on the planet.
Humans have been trying to re-create the same heights ever since, and have been failing miserably.
LOL, That would be the understatement of the ages. Unfortunately, Africans grew fat, lazy, and arrogant, secure in the knowledge that they would continue to rule the planet as they always have. Pride (and hubris) comes before a fall. Remind you of anyone?
The true wealth of a nation lays not in her bank accounts, trade balances, or oil deposits, but in her people. Nations who fail to recognize this, forget it, or simply choose to ignore this, do so at their own peril. Their demise inevitably follows. When you strip the nation of her wealth and her identity, you destroy her very foundation.
The barbarous, uncivilized hoards of Europe fvcked Africa over, and have been exploiting her wealth & resources ever since. But nothing man-made, rooted in ignorance, and incomplete lasts forever.
As was once written 'Those that were first, shall be last, and those that were last, shall be first". For every thing, there is a time and a season, ...and The Great Wheel will continue to turn.
This aberration of European dominance over Africa, or even the rest of the planet, when placed in context is but a blip, a mere fraction of a second relative to the eons of existence on this little 3rd rock from the Sun.
Europe finally got to experience her 'day in the Sun'. She experienced her 'renaissance' (re-birth) out of the 'dark ages', ...but have you ever stopped to ask yourselves why that little recorded time of history is even referred to as "the dark ages"? ....hmmm, ...now that's something to ponder now isn't it? :P
It is written "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" have a gander at a little bit of truth (http://stewartsynopsis.com/europe_conquered_by_africans.htm)
Another ignorant and racist post filled with untruths. You are literally the most unintelligent poster on getbig. There is so much stupidity, not to mention racism, in this post that it would be to time consuming to correct it all. I've done it many times before but it seems to have no effect on your racism and ignorance so why bother.
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Exactly..none of these libs ever has an excuse for the continent of africa and why they are the only major race to have never developed a higher level civilization
JM, this seems to be one of your more ignorant posts. I don't know if Jared Diamond is a lib, but as far as excuses/explanations (that seem to contradict "Bell-curve"-type arguments) you speak about, I'm sure most of us here have read his Guns, Germs, and Steel, right?
That book (which argued that environmental issues are the primary factor in explaining development or lack thereof of human civilizations) made very good sense to me.
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JM, this seems to be one of your more ignorant posts. I don't know if Jared Diamond is a lib, but as far as excuses/explanations (that seem to contradict "Bell-curve"-type arguments) you speak about, I'm sure most of us here have read his Guns, Germs, and Steel, right?
That book (which argued that environmental issues are the primary factor in explaining development or lack thereof of human civilizations) made very good sense to me.
I found Guns, Germs and Steel interesting but there are many flaws in the books reasoning and I suggest you read the multitude of criticisms and counter-arguments widely available on the net.
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Excuse me? :o
What on earth do they teach in American schools? ...and does it bare any resemblance to the truth?
Africa developed the highest civilization to have ever existed on the planet.
Humans have been trying to re-create the same heights ever since, and have been failing miserably.
derp.
DEERRRP.
yes, im quite sure that nation had accomplished things weve never dreamed of, like traveling to space and discovering electricity, or creating nuclear power.
My, how advanced they were, we can never come close.
they may have accomplished incredible feats for the technology of the time, but to act like they were the pinnacle of human society is fucking retarded.
derp.
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Europeans came along and halted African progress.
Progress? They ran around in the nude throwing rocks and fucking everything. Animals!!
And dont get me started on your country!! Before Europeans came over and took action the indians was doing the very same thing just with war-paint.
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Progress? They ran around in the nude throwing rocks and fucking everything. Animals!!
And dont get me started on your country!! Before Europeans came over and took action the indians was doing the very same thing just with war-paint.
he was being sarcastic.