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Can he have another blockbuster Hit?
Why is his popularity fading?
Some say teenagers don't even know who he is cause last time Arnold was relevant (ten years ago when he did terminator 3) they were little kids .....
But also people say that Arnold started falling long before that; movies like 6th day and Colateral Damage didn't do well cause even then he was looking old tired ....
Will he be back on top one more time ?
Wooosssshhhhhhhhhh
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Too many pussyfooting feminists and liberal moviegoers these days.
Actionheroes like those we had in the 80s just aren't as popular as they were before, and i don't think they ever can be in the way society is changing.
They either want Leads that show emotions, Female Leads or Coloreds these days
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I thought End of Days was great, I think arnold needs to take on darker roles kinda like you see Mel Gibson do, with extremely flawed characters. I think bringing him back to take on predator would be great along with a self sacrificing ending. The Maggie movie actually sounds kinda promising.
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Who is the "arnold" of todays teens?
Taylor Lautner? The rock? Toby McGuire?
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Who is the "arnold" of todays teens?
Taylor Lautner? The rock? Toby McGuire?
Closest must be The Rock.
It's the only "physical" actionhero that has some similarities with the Heroes of old (80s)
The others are just not comparable in any way
Tobey McGuire... LOL
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problem with Ahrnold is.... he no longer has the body/presence that sold those films, now he keeps wrapped up and has to get by as an actual 'actor'
lets be honest, he couldnt act in a million yrs, he's getting by, by name alone..
old wrinkly guy running around chinning young bucks, come on, lets get real...almost as pathetic as Frank Sinnatra playing a 'kid' when he was nearly 50!
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Closest must be The Rock.
It's the only "physical" actionhero that has some similarities with the Heroes of old (80s)
The others are just not comparable in any way
Tobey McGuire... LOL
ive got to add vin deisel and jason stathom
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old wrinkly guy running around chinning young bucks, come on, lets get real...almost as pathetic as Frank Sinnatra playing a 'kid' when he was nearly 50!
lol when did he ever do that ?
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ralph macchio[great name] was near 30 when he was the karate kid. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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liam [the nose] neeson is still an action star and draw although near 60 because he can actually act not rely on a few one-liners, and lame catch phrases. 'you hit like a vegetarean'. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Too many pussyfooting feminists and liberal moviegoers these days.
Actionheroes like those we had in the 80s just aren't as popular as they were before, and i don't think they ever can be in the way society is changing.
They either want Leads that show emotions, Female Leads or Coloreds these days
totally not true... there's shitloads of action type white male actors as popular as ever
ahnold is simply an old man, no other reason needed really
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Escape plan is tanning at the box office..
:(
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This was great
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/10/arnold-schwarzenegger-re-records-his-most-famous-lines-for-fans/
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Escape plan is tanning at the box office..
:(
When Arnold and Sly first came back with the Expendables there was a certain charm to it. As a later 30s gen x'er I enjoyed seeing action stars from my youth going out and having fun. It was campy but nostalgic. Then it was Bullet to the Head, Rambo 5, the Last Stand, Rocky 6, Expendables 2, Die hard 5 and now this movie and another Terminator and another Conan...its gone from tongue in cheek fun to kinda sad.
Ill still rent Escape Plan on bluray but Im not shelling $25 bucks to take the wife. That's 50 rounds of 7.62x54 ammo :)
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problem with Ahrnold is.... he no longer has the body/presence that sold those films, now he keeps wrapped up and has to get by as an actual 'actor'
let's be honest, he couldnt act in a million yrs, he's getting by, by name alone..
old wrinkly guy running around chinning young bucks, come on, lets get real...almost as pathetic as Frank Sinnatra playing a 'kid' when he was nearly 50!
I think thats the cruel sad answer...
Let's check how "young" were the ones that beat Arnold and Sly this weekend.
1- Gravity- George Clooney 52 years old
2- Captain Phillips- Tom Hanks 57
3- Carry- Julian Moore 52
4- Cloudy with a chance of meatballs 2- (cartoons)
5-Escape Plan Arnold & Sly.
So they were all big names and over 50 years of age ... without his physique,Arnold is competing for top honors based on his acting skills.
He won't recover, or be back on top ....
Time to leave your legacy as it is.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I think thats the cruel sad answer...
Let's check how "young" were the ones that beat Arnold and Sly this weekend.
1- Gravity- George Clooney 52 years old
2- Captain Phillips- Tom Hanks 57
3- Carry- Julian Moore 52
4- Cloudy with a chance of meatballs 2- (cartoons)
5-Escape Plan Arnold & Sly.
So they were all big names and over 50 years of age ... without his physique,Arnold is competing for top honors based on his acting skills.
He won't recover, or be back on top ....
Time to leave your legacy as it is.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'm sure Arnie is just doing movies to have fun and stay relevant, whatever that is....here's the box office numbers. the movie is at number 5....I doubt this movie will make close to it's budget
5.
Escape Plan $9.8 million
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there is one big factor and that is lionsgate hardly promoted the last stand or escape plan, here in the uk there were barely any trailers for either seen on tv. The 4 I saw for escape plan were after midnight when audience levels are low. General awareness was none existent, they were relying on people going online and seeing the trailers or stills and not everyone is going to search up this stuff.
If lionsgate promoted these films like they do the expendables which aims for the same audience it would be a different story.
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Yeah it's not like you see the same PR for Arnies current movies as we did for Commando, Total Recall, Terminator 2-3 etc
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The last stand was actually better than I thought it would be
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Who is the "arnold" of todays teens?
Taylor Lautner? The rock? Toby McGuire?
Channing Potatoes
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in escape plan the whole audience lapped up arnolds scenes he stole the show, when he wasn't there you missed him. He had some great lines and one hilarious moment the cinema loved. he absolutely still has the presence, natural charisma and physique to carry on.
The last stand was actually better than I thought it would be
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in escape plan the whole audience lapped up arnolds scenes he stole the show, when he wasn't there you missed him. He had some great lines and one hilarious moment the cinema loved. he absolutely still has the presence, natural charisma and physique to carry on.
Cool, I heard the plot didnt make sense ....Im gonna watch it anyways.
WoooSSHHHHHHH
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it's more a thriller not an action film so there is bits you miss that a second viewing would answer questions that might be niggling.
The plot is simple, makes perfect sense.
Cool, I heard the plot didnt make sense ....Im gonna watch it anyways.
WoooSSHHHHHHH
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Channing Potatoes
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I'm sure Arnie is just doing movies to have fun and stay relevant, whatever that is....here's the box office numbers. the movie is at number 5....I doubt this movie will make close to it's budget
5.
Escape Plan $9.8 million
ESCAPE PLAN: $14.1M Overseas Total / $23.6M Global Total.
And the flick didn't hit
Argentina 24 October 2013
Cambodia 24 October 2013
Greece 24 October 2013
Hong Kong 24 October 2013
Hungary 24 October 2013
Portugal 24 October 2013
Singapore 24 October 2013
Romania 25 October 2013
Vietnam 25 October 2013
China 29 October 2013
Finland 31 October 2013 (Night Visions Film Festival)
Macedonia 31 October 2013
Uruguay 31 October 2013
Serbia 2 November 2013 (Cinemania, Belgrade)
Iceland 8 November 2013
Belgium 13 November 2013
France 13 November 2013
Switzerland 13 November 2013 (French speaking region)
Germany 14 November 2013
Switzerland 14 November 2013 (German speaking region)
Austria 15 November 2013
Finland 15 November 2013
Australia 28 November 2013
Serbia 28 November 2013
New Zealand 5 December 2013
Spain 5 December 2013
Norway 6 December 2013
Poland 6 December 2013
Sweden 6 December 2013
Peru 2 January 2014
Chile 16 January 2014
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ESCAPE PLAN: $14.1M Overseas Total / $23.6M Global Total.
And the flick didn't hit
Argentina 24 October 2013
Cambodia 24 October 2013
Greece 24 October 2013
Hong Kong 24 October 2013
Hungary 24 October 2013
Portugal 24 October 2013
Singapore 24 October 2013
Romania 25 October 2013
Vietnam 25 October 2013
China 29 October 2013
Finland 31 October 2013 (Night Visions Film Festival)
Macedonia 31 October 2013
Uruguay 31 October 2013
Serbia 2 November 2013 (Cinemania, Belgrade)
Iceland 8 November 2013
Belgium 13 November 2013
France 13 November 2013
Switzerland 13 November 2013 (French speaking region)
Germany 14 November 2013
Switzerland 14 November 2013 (German speaking region)
Austria 15 November 2013
Finland 15 November 2013
Australia 28 November 2013
Serbia 28 November 2013
New Zealand 5 December 2013
Spain 5 December 2013
Norway 6 December 2013
Poland 6 December 2013
Sweden 6 December 2013
Peru 2 January 2014
Chile 16 January 2014
So youre gonna go country by country to see If the movie can collect 15 millions.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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ESCAPE PLAN: $14.1M Overseas Total / $23.6M Global Total.
And the flick didn't hit
Argentina 24 October 2013
Cambodia 24 October 2013
Greece 24 October 2013
Hong Kong 24 October 2013
Hungary 24 October 2013
Portugal 24 October 2013
Singapore 24 October 2013
Romania 25 October 2013
Vietnam 25 October 2013
China 29 October 2013
Finland 31 October 2013 (Night Visions Film Festival)
Macedonia 31 October 2013
Uruguay 31 October 2013
Serbia 2 November 2013 (Cinemania, Belgrade)
Iceland 8 November 2013
Belgium 13 November 2013
France 13 November 2013
Switzerland 13 November 2013 (French speaking region)
Germany 14 November 2013
Switzerland 14 November 2013 (German speaking region)
Austria 15 November 2013
Finland 15 November 2013
Australia 28 November 2013
Serbia 28 November 2013
New Zealand 5 December 2013
Spain 5 December 2013
Norway 6 December 2013
Poland 6 December 2013
Sweden 6 December 2013
Peru 2 January 2014
Chile 16 January 2014
overseas business saves a lot of these movies.....Hollywood now recognize how important overseas business is to them......Tom Cruise's "Mission Impossible 3" was considered a failure in the US and he parted ways with Sony after that movie, but Cruise's Movies always deliver big box office numbers overseas and that movie recovers nicely abroad. that movie cost $150 miilion to make and only made $134 million in the US, but overseas was $263 million
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This is not about arnold, action films are no longer selling because men have become pussies and they want to see drama and comedy, apart from franchise films like fast and the furious, james bond, superheroes etc, how many big budget action films do you see at the box office these days and how much do they make, all the new action stars like the rock and jason their stand alone films are not make big money,
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overseas business saves a lot of these movies.....Hollywood now recognize how important overseas business is to them......Tom Cruise's "Mission Impossible 3" was considered a failure in the US and he parted ways with Sony after that movie, but Cruise's Movies always deliver big box office numbers overseas and that movie recovers nicely abroad. that movie cost $150 miilion to make and only made $134 million in the US, but overseas was $263 million
Some folk are kinda dumb. They really think that if a movie makes 10 million in the US and a billion overseas the guys who want their money back are going to cry over that poor domestic success.
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Can he have another blockbuster Hit?
Why is his popularity fading?
Some say teenagers don't even know who he is cause last time Arnold was relevant (ten years ago when he did terminator 3) they were little kids .....
But also people say that Arnold started falling long before that; movies like 6th day and Colateral Damage didn't do well cause even then he was looking old tired ....
Will he be back on top one more time ?
Wooosssshhhhhhhhhh
6th Day was an awesome movie. Shame on people for not seeing that
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Market and promote arnold properly and he will still have success. Arnold wished he'd made taken. That movie had a big push, lots of trailers and tv spots and starred neeson who had no business as an action star. If arnold had made that film it could have been even more successful as it was a solid movie and action is arnolds trademark.
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an interesting article on arnold and sly........well, bruce willis is been doing well with the "die hard" movies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/10/22/why-schwarzenegger-stallone-arent-movie-stars-anymore/?partner=yahootix
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We didn't do as bad this weekend.
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arnold and sly look 80
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an interesting article on arnold and sly........well, bruce willis is been doing well with the "die hard" movies
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/10/22/why-schwarzenegger-stallone-arent-movie-stars-anymore/?partner=yahootix
What are you on about, the last die hard was a piece of shit
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escape plan was fucking nice