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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/myth-obamacare-causing-part-time-135441398.html
Jobs do the opposite of what 33 claims, couldn't of predicted that.
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It's still pretty early and the solidly season is upon us.
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It's still pretty early and the solidly season is upon us.
LOL - too early to debunk the myth that Obamacare destroying full time jobs but certainly not to early to declare Obamacare a total failure and claim it's destroying the country
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It's still pretty early and the solidly season is upon us.
I agree, I was being sarcastic with the whole post.
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LOL - too early to debunk the myth that Obamacare destroying full time jobs but certainly not to early to declare Obamacare a total failure and claim it's destroying the country
It's to early to predict anything with accuracy at this point.
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LMFAO - jobs report today SUCKED!
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LMFAO - jobs report today SUCKED!
And a bad jobs report is funny to you? Seems like anything that's bad news for Obama is good news for you, and whether it is good or bad news for the country is irrelevant.
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And a bad jobs report is funny to you? Seems like anything that's bad news for Obama is good news for you, and whether it is good or bad news for the country is irrelevant.
No, it's not funny.
What is funny are the idiots on this thread claiming that obamatheclown has been a good steward of the economy when it's clear that he hasn't been and that he will never have the answers.
So stop claiming that the economy is doing great under this president. Because it isn't and it won't get any better while Democrats keep getting elected. Their leadership has made the Bush presidency look like the golden years.
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And a bad jobs report is funny to you? Seems like anything that's bad news for Obama is good news for you, and whether it is good or bad news for the country is irrelevant.
Bad news for Obama is good news for America since the worse the news is for that piece of trash - the less likely he can get through more nation killing policies and programs.
He is the worst mistake in this nations' history all cause people wanted free stuff and thought it would be cool to elect a black ex drug addict they thought was hip for the "newness" of the entire situation.
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No, it's not funny.
What is funny are the idiots on this thread claiming that obamatheclown has been a good steward of the economy when it's clear that he hasn't been and that he will never have the answers.
So stop claiming that the economy is doing great under this president. Because it isn't and it won't get any better while Democrats keep getting elected. Their leadership has made the Bush presidency look like the golden years.
Bush caused a great recession, Obama has the deficit decreasing at record pace.
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Bush caused a great recession, Obama has the deficit decreasing at record pace.
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HEHEHEHEH!!
Now, Obama is the one decreasing the deficit? He IS THE REASON. So in other words, the messiah created some kind of systematic change to the economy to produce such decrease and everything IS BETTER.
Is anyone really this stupid? To give credit to a man who added $7 trillion to the deficit, MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT, and now because of factors that he neither implemented or in some cases didn't want which have caused deficit to decrease this year, somehow Obama should be applauded.
So after he increased the deficit by $7 trillion, we are to be thankful and rejoice that it is finally decreasing THROUGH NO ACTION by the president.
What decreased was THIS YEAR'S DEFICIT, NOT THE NATION'S ACCUMULATED DEBT OF PREVIOUS YEARS.
This article states it best:
But as Mr. Elmendorf and other experts point out, one of the reasons it is falling is because it shot up so high in the first place. As the financial crisis devastated the economy, tax revenues fell. Spending on unemployment insurance and other government recovery programs rose. In 2008, the deficit was about $458 billion. In 2009, it rocketed up to $1.4 trillion. It stayed above the trillion-dollar mark for 2010 through 2012.
Tax revenues have risen modestly along with the slowly rising gross domestic product. The FY 2013 shortfall should end up at around $642 billion, according to the CBO.
The sequestration automatic budget cuts have also cut spending. However, the January "fiscal cliff" deal, which locked in the Bush-era tax cuts largely offset these savings, according to the Concord Coalition, a budget watchdog group.
“This year’s lower deficit can be largely attributed to short-term economic factors rather than systemic reforms in the federal budget,” writes the Concord Coalition’s Steve Winn.
Looking ahead, CBO now projects that the deficit will continue to narrow until fiscal 2016, when it will again begin widening, as more and more baby boomers retire and become eligible for Medicare and Social Security.
That means the nation’s fiscal problems are far from solved. The core challenge involves trimming federal health-care costs enough to bend the curve of ever-rising Medicare and Medicaid expense.
“The fundamental federal budgetary challenge has hardly been addressed,” writes CBO chief Elmendorf.
Nor does it do anything about the debt piled up during the recession’s worst years. The debt is the nation’s accumulated red ink; the deficit is the amount of red ink Uncle Sam runs up each year.
When the president proclaims that the deficit is shrinking at the fastest rate in decades, that’s the same as saying that the speed at which the nation is rolling backward has decreased dramatically, wrote Keith Hennessey, director of the National Economic Council under President Bush, in May.
“That is not something you should boast about. You’re supposed to boast when things are getting better, not when they’re getting worse more slowly,” wrote Mr. Hennessey.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2013/0916/Obama-Deficits-falling-at-fastest-rate-since-WWII.-Is-that-true
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Another article on the myth that because deficit is decreasing FOR THIS YEAR that the messiah has fixed the economy.
And it is CNN.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/31/news/economy/cbo_budget_economy/
Another trillion dollars spent under the Stim bill and we are still over 7% UE (fudged federal number).
FAILURE!!!!!
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No, it's not funny.
What is funny are the idiots on this thread claiming that obamatheclown has been a good steward of the economy when it's clear that he hasn't been and that he will never have the answers.
So stop claiming that the economy is doing great under this president. Because it isn't and it won't get any better while Democrats keep getting elected. Their leadership has made the Bush presidency look like the golden years.
Not even Bush misses the Bush presidency.
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Looking upon the Bush favorable is a sign that you are dealing with an idiot. In Retardario's case, that isn't much of a surprise to anyone here.
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Looking upon the Bush favorable is a sign that you are dealing with an idiot. In Retardario's case, that isn't much of a surprise to anyone here.
The economy was better under Bush for 8 years than the Obama mess for 8 years. FACT
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And a bad jobs report is funny to you? Seems like anything that's bad news for Obama is good news for you, and whether it is good or bad news for the country is irrelevant.
Generally speaking, what is bad for obama and his policies is indeed good news for this country. One day you will understand this :)
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The economy was better under Bush for 8 years than the Obama mess for 8 years. FACT
So if you buy a house from someone who has installed substandard wiring and the wiring causes the house to burn down after you close, you're at fault for the house's destruction, right? Not the previous owner?
I tried to keep it simple for you. Hope that helps.
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Generally speaking, what is bad for obama and his policies is indeed good news for this country. One day you will understand this :)
What is bad for this country - far so than any disagreement over the current president and his policies - is the absolute hatred and disrespect with which we now treat our political opponents in this country. I remember when Democrats and Republicans respected each other despite disagreements, and tried to work together for the good of the United States of America.
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What is bad for this country - far so than any disagreement over the current president and his policies - is the absolute hatred and disrespect with which we now treat our political opponents in this country. I remember when Democrats and Republicans respected each other despite disagreements, and tried to work together for the good of the United States of America.
Well- Obama is guilty as anyone calling us bitter clingers, terrorists, hostage takers, etc.
F him. I am enjoying immensely his admn going down in flames
He is worse than any drug addicted crack head skell in Hunts Point I have ever met and so are those who make excuses for him. The sooner we rid ourselves of this asshole the better
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Yes that is true gonuc.. But it all starts with the president; you can't go extreme left wing with everything, push conrovertial legislation on a sheer party-line vote, and try to force the whole nation hard left without there being pushback...and at that point its up to you to lead and compromise
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The economy was better under Bush for 8 years than the Obama mess for 8 years. FACT
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Eight years of crying on the internet 24/7 is the only FACT you can contribute.
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Yes that is true gonuc.. But it all starts with the president; you can't go extreme left wing with everything, push conrovertial legislation on a sheer party-line vote, and try to force the whole nation hard left without there being pushback...and at that point its up to you to lead and compromise
You have a point, John. But I think the vitriol is coming equally from both sides. We need to do something about that. And quickly.
And a single payer system would have been extreme left wing. Obamacare is based on a Republican idea.
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Another article on the myth that because deficit is decreasing FOR THIS YEAR that the messiah has fixed the economy.
And it is CNN.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/31/news/economy/cbo_budget_economy/
Another trillion dollars spent unde the Stim bill and we are still over 7% UE (fudged federal number).
FAILURE!!!!!
No one is claiming the deficit means the economy is fixed, nor any of the other positions you ascribed to others.
The argument from you is that Obama is destroying the country, you cite the deficit when the recession hit as proof of what? that the country was in the shitter thanks to poor policies by Bush.
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http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/report/2013/10/23/77537/the-affordable-care-acts-lower-than-projected-premiums-will-save-190-billion/
Projected to save money.
This is a train wreck.
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HEHEHEEHEHEH!!
Do you know why it is projected to save money?
Because obamacrapcare takes $500 million from medicare!!!
This was exposed years ago by Ryan. They count those $500 million as revenue. The CBO has to due to their guidelines, but it is not and if they didn't count it as revenue it does nothing to the deficit.
You also fail to realize that if this law does not bring down premiums, it will result in less full time jobs. More part time jobs. More layoffs. Less taxes to collect. Which leads to increase in deficit. Which is already going to be affected with more people retiring and the labor force shrinking.
HEHEHEHEHE!! Libtard economics=dog crap
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/conspiracy-theorist-contends-obama-s-fainting-lady-was-faked_764596.html
LOL!!!!
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HEHEHEEHEHEH!!
Do you know why it is projected to save money?
Because obamacrapcare takes $500 million from medicare!!!
This was exposed years ago by Ryan. They count those $500 million as revenue. The CBO has to due to their guidelines, but it is not and if they didn't count it as revenue it does nothing to the deficit.
You also fail to realize that if this law does not bring down premiums, it will result in less full time jobs. More part time jobs. More layoffs. Less taxes to collect. Which leads to increase in deficit. Which is already going to be affected with more people retiring and the labor force shrinking.
HEHEHEHEHE!! Libtard economics=dog crap
First of all, nothing was "exposed years ago by Ryan" concerning Obamacare.
What I think you are referring to is the Ryan budget that became part of the Republican platform during the last presidential race. Ryan proposed cutting $500M from Medicare and using it in place of general revenue - so he proposed the same thing. It only became "stealing from Medicare" when Obama proposed it.
As I noted, you can find, for every virtually every Republican source of criticism, a Democratic source that argues the opposite.
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First of all, nothing was "exposed years ago by Ryan" concerning Obamacare.
What I think you are referring to is the Ryan budget that became part of the Republican platform during the last presidential race. Ryan proposed cutting $500M from Medicare and using it in place of general revenue - so he proposed the same thing. It only became "stealing from Medicare" when Obama proposed it.
As I noted, you can find, for every virtually every Republican source of criticism, a Democratic source that argues the opposite.
+ Fucking 1!!