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the other day was reading some thread on some sight where someone said "i dont want my soul to exist eternally"
the more i thought about what was said its like my mind went deeper into that thought putting itself in a place full of fear of the eternal. with also feelings of that feeling you get when your looking down from a very tall building, kinda like when i watch vids of those russian kids just jumping around on the roofs of sky scrapers lol but scary as fuck
anyways i was curious about this feeling and let it continue, not thinking rationally about it but more less teleporting my senses into something "eternal" wich was scary as fuck to ponder. i had that frightening feeling physically and mentally u know looking down from a tall building ect.
i felt my metabolism quickly elevate and in pure fear and desperation i jumped up out of my chair and was literally about to run outside in a madness but stayed in my house and moderatley yelled "I cant take this any more" then i preceeded to calm down because i was feeling very upset thinking about all this
just thought id share. the thought of eternal is pretty intense
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i felt my metabolism quickly elevate and in pure fear and desperation i jumped up out of my chair and was literally about to run outside in a madness but stayed in my house and moderatley yelled "I cant take this any more" then i preceeded to calm down because i was feeling very upset thinking about all this
Haha
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Not purposely but you could say it was self-induced in a way. It was intense. You ever have a night terror? I don't want share what my night terror was but lets just say it was the worst of the worst. Well I woke up but part of my consciousness was still trapped in the dream. I still felt those feelings of dread and utter terror while awake in the real world. It's hard to describe those feelings because I have never experienced them before. It was like my world was spinning and the devil was laughing. I just wanted to end it. God's honest truth I wanted to die.
I don't know what I experienced but if hell is real i'd say without a doubt I've been there.
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Not purposely but you could say it was self-induced in a way. It was intense. You ever have a night terror? I don't want share what my night terror was but lets just say it was the worst of the worst. Well I woke up but part of my consciousness was still trapped in the dream. I still felt those feelings of dread and utter terror. It's hard to describe those feelings because I have never experienced them before. It was like my world was spinning and the devil was laughing. I just wanted to end it. God's honest truth I wanted to die.
Choad.
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Haha
i take it your a fan
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Not purposely but you could say it was self-induced in a way. It was intense. You ever have a night terror? I don't want share what my night terror was but lets just say it was the worst of the worst. Well I woke up but part of my consciousness was still trapped in the dream. I still felt those feelings of dread and utter terror while awake in the real world. It's hard to describe those feelings because I have never experienced them before. It was like my world was spinning and the devil was laughing. I just wanted to end it. God's honest truth I wanted to die.
I don't know what I experienced but if hell is real i'd say without a doubt I've been there.
holy shit i guess that will be the next thing to happen for me
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the other day was reading some thread on some sight where someone said "i dont want my soul to exist eternally"
the more i thought about what was said its like my mind went deeper into that thought putting itself in a place full of fear of the eternal. with also feelings of that feeling you get when your looking down from a very tall building, kinda like when i watch vids of those russian kids just jumping around on the roofs of sky scrapers lol but scary as fuck
anyways i was curious about this feeling and let it continue, not thinking rationally about it but more less teleporting my senses into something "eternal" wich was scary as fuck to ponder. i had that frightening feeling physically and mentally u know looking down from a tall building ect.
i felt my metabolism quickly elevate and in pure fear and desperation i jumped up out of my chair and was literally about to run outside in a madness but stayed in my house and moderatley yelled "I cant take this any more" then i preceeded to calm down because i was feeling very upset thinking about all this
just thought id share. the thought of eternal is pretty intense
Dear Penthouse......
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Sounds like you came close to a panic attack but talked yourself down. Panic attacks are no joke...
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Sounds like you came close to a panic attack but talked yourself down. Panic attacks are no joke...
aaaaaaaaah ::)
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the other day was reading some thread on some sight where someone said "i dont want my soul to exist eternally"
the more i thought about what was said its like my mind went deeper into that thought putting itself in a place full of fear of the eternal. with also feelings of that feeling you get when your looking down from a very tall building, kinda like when i watch vids of those russian kids just jumping around on the roofs of sky scrapers lol but scary as fuck
anyways i was curious about this feeling and let it continue, not thinking rationally about it but more less teleporting my senses into something "eternal" wich was scary as fuck to ponder. i had that frightening feeling physically and mentally u know looking down from a tall building ect.
i felt my metabolism quickly elevate and in pure fear and desperation i jumped up out of my chair and was literally about to run outside in a madness but stayed in my house and moderatley yelled "I cant take this any more" then i preceeded to calm down because i was feeling very upset thinking about all this
just thought id share. the thought of eternal is pretty intense
This is a sign....a sign that you really need to lighten up. There are things we cannot control in this world. Things like whether our souls live on after we die. You won't have an answer to this until you die. Hopefully that isn't for many years yet.
Do you fear death? I remember when you thought you were having a heart attack and it freaked you out. A natural response, to be sure, but also telling about how you may fear dying. We are all going to die someday Falcon. There is no reason to fear it. You can't avoid it. Embrace it when it comes, just as you should embrace life while your living it. If you worry too much about what might happen, you'll forget to live until it does.
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This is a sign....a sign that you really need to lighten up. There are things we cannot control in this world. Things like whether our souls live on after we die. You won't have an answer to this until you die. Hopefully that isn't for many years yet.
Do you fear death? I remember when you thought you were having a heart attack and it freaked you out. A natural response, to be sure, but also telling about how you may fear dying. We are all going to die someday Falcon. There is no reason to fear it. You can't avoid it. Embrace it when it comes, just as you should embrace life while your living it. If you worry too much about what might happen, you'll forget to live until it does.
it would suck to die though man it would also suck to be eternal wouldnt it. fuck either way im thinking about this shit ahead of time. Its in my blood to feel the pain and redicule, if you havent felt that from me here yet. this type of pain isnt really fun but it is interesting, but its more of a sensation and not really teaching me anything.
at best , what we can tell from an emotion is that an emotion is pure sound. now that is something tangible to explore
Lots of bro's not wanting to think about this stuff though
i just need to focus on technology and what is time, peizeoelectricity, what is time travel. and learning other things that may be more 'tangible' than death and or eternalism
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What I've learned is there is a dimension of consciousness that's best not explored. I've never done acid, lsd or any hardcore drugs and I'm glad because I would probably be one of those people who jumps out of a window to his death on a bad trip.
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What I've learned is there is a dimension of consciousness that's best not explored. I've never done acid, lsd or any hardcore drugs and I'm glad because I would probably be one of those people who jumps out of a window to his death on a bad trip.
i no longer can handle that shit
you are right, if you cant explore it first with reason, science or physics then best not to just dive into something unknown. it would be like arriving at some random planet not knowing what the atmosphere is like could it be poisonis ect
i wish i thought like this before i ever smoked weed in the first place. i was so eager to make friends that i jumped the bandwagon to smoke, stupid me. im sure some abilities were lost because of it
i could blame my parents for not giving me better social skills when i was younger, but its best to man up and move on and not point a finger, but now take lead
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What I've learned is there is a dimension of consciousness that's best not explored. I've never done acid, lsd or any hardcore drugs and I'm glad because I would probably be one of those people who jumps out of a window to his death on a bad trip.
I had one experience with LSD many years ago. It was a valid learning experience for me. I had no thoughts of jumping out the window or flying for that matter.
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I had one experience with LSD many years ago. It was a valid learning experience for me. I had no thoughts of jumping out the window or flying for that matter.
LSD is an awesome thing. It can expand your consciousness, IF you let it. If you fight it, well, you'll be in for a long 6-8 hours
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i no longer can handle that shit
you are right, if you cant explore it first with reason, science or physics then best not to just dive into something unknown. it would be like arriving at some random planet not knowing what the atmosphere is like could it be poisonis ect
i wish i thought like this before i ever smoked weed in the first place. i was so eager to make friends that i jumped the bandwagon to smoke, stupid me. im sure some abilities were lost because of it
i could blame my parents for not giving me better social skills when i was younger, but its best to man up and move on and not point a finger, but now take lead
Dude you're absolutely right with your analogy. Have you seen Event Horizon? That was scary man.
Consciousness is absolutely fascinating to me but I fear what I may discover.
and you're right about moving on... Its all we can do.
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i no longer can handle that shit
you are right, if you cant explore it first with reason, science or physics then best not to just dive into something unknown. it would be like arriving at some random planet not knowing what the atmosphere is like could it be poisonis ect
i wish i thought like this before i ever smoked weed in the first place. i was so eager to make friends that i jumped the bandwagon to smoke, stupid me. im sure some abilities were lost because of it
i could blame my parents for not giving me better social skills when i was younger, but its best to man up and move on and not point a finger, but now take lead
Weed never did it for me. Made me feel paranoid. I like feeling good not lousy.
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If yo really stop and think about how crazy life is (we are hurdling through space) the life seems prertty crazy...
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Not purposely but you could say it was self-induced in a way. It was intense. You ever have a night terror? I don't want share what my night terror was but lets just say it was the worst of the worst. Well I woke up but part of my consciousness was still trapped in the dream. I still felt those feelings of dread and utter terror while awake in the real world. It's hard to describe those feelings because I have never experienced them before. It was like my world was spinning and the devil was laughing. I just wanted to end it. God's honest truth I wanted to die.
I don't know what I experienced but if hell is real i'd say without a doubt I've been there.
Did your mom have to slap you back to your senses?
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Not purposely but you could say it was self-induced in a way. It was intense. You ever have a night terror? I don't want share what my night terror was but lets just say it was the worst of the worst. Well I woke up but part of my consciousness was still trapped in the dream. I still felt those feelings of dread and utter terror while awake in the real world. It's hard to describe those feelings because I have never experienced them before. It was like my world was spinning and the devil was laughing. I just wanted to end it. God's honest truth I wanted to die.
I don't know what I experienced but if hell is real i'd say without a doubt I've been there.
I had a major "night terror" when I was about 18 years old. I thought I was dying for sure and couldn't escape it. It was a very scary feeling. Like you, I survived. Never had one like that since.
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I had the exact same thought before, that there is no end, but you are forced exist eternally in one form or another.
It would mean continuously enslaved under ruthless survival instincts.
the other day was reading some thread on some sight where someone said "i dont want my soul to exist eternally"
the more i thought about what was said its like my mind went deeper into that thought putting itself in a place full of fear of the eternal. with also feelings of that feeling you get when your looking down from a very tall building, kinda like when i watch vids of those russian kids just jumping around on the roofs of sky scrapers lol but scary as fuck
anyways i was curious about this feeling and let it continue, not thinking rationally about it but more less teleporting my senses into something "eternal" wich was scary as fuck to ponder. i had that frightening feeling physically and mentally u know looking down from a tall building ect.
i felt my metabolism quickly elevate and in pure fear and desperation i jumped up out of my chair and was literally about to run outside in a madness but stayed in my house and moderatley yelled "I cant take this any more" then i preceeded to calm down because i was feeling very upset thinking about all this
just thought id share. the thought of eternal is pretty intense
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I had the exact same thought before, that there is no end, but you are forced exist eternally in one form or another.
It would mean continuously enslaved under ruthless survival instincts.
On the other hand, it could simply be "ashes to ashes, dust to dust!" When you die, that's it....fini. There is no afterlife, no soul, no heaven and no hell just worms or fire until you end up as fertilizer for the next thing to come from this earth. Perhaps that's our contribution to the cycle of life.
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Stimulant psychosis
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Stimulant psychosis
Classification and external resources
Stimulant psychosis is a psychotic disorder that occurs in some people who use stimulant drugs. Stimulant psychosis commonly occurs in people who abuse drugs; but it also occurs in some patients taking therapeutic doses of stimulant drugs under medical supervision.[1]
The most common causative agents are amphetamines and cocaine although newer designer drugs such as MDPV, Ethylphenidate and a-PVP can produce severe psychotic episodes that occur more rapidly and are more intense and longer lasting.[medical citation needed] Other more powerful Norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor-type drugs, such as 2-DPMP, can produce multi-day psychotic episodes from acute overdose.[medical citation needed]
Contents
[hide] 1 Signs and symptoms
2 Stimulants known to cause psychosis 2.1 Amphetamines
2.2 Cocaine
2.3 Methylphenidate
2.4 Caffeine
3 Treatment
4 Distinction from excited delirium
5 See also
6 References
7 Further reading
8 External links
Signs and symptoms[edit]
The symptoms of stimulant psychosis may vary slightly depending on the drug ingested but generally include the symptoms of organic psychosis including hallucinations, delusions, thought disorder, and, in extreme cases, catatonia.
In cases of stimulant psychosis (but not organic psychosis) patients tend to also present with the physical symptoms of prolonged stimulant abuse or acute overdose. These additional symptoms may include aggression, arrhythmia, dilated pupils, diarrhea, hypertension, hyperthermia, nausea, rapid breathing, restlessness, seizures, sleep deprivation, tremor, and vomiting.[2]
Stimulants known to cause psychosis[edit]
Amphetamines[edit]
Amphetamine and its derivatives are known to induce psychosis typically when chronically abused or used in high doses.[3] In an Australian study of 309 active methamphetamine users 18% had experienced a clinical level psychosis in the past year.[4] The generic term "Amphetamines" describes both amphetamine proper as well as the substituted amphetamines. The amphetamine molecule consists of a phenethylamine core with a methyl group attached to the alpha carbon. The substituted amphetamines consist of the same structure with one or more substitutions. Common examples include cathinone, DOM, ephedrine, MDMA, methamphetamine, methcathinone, and methylphenidate though a large number of such compounds have been synthesized.
The symptoms of amphetamine psychosis include auditory and visual hallucinations, delusions of persecution, and delusions of reference concurrent with both clear consciousness and prominent extreme agitation.[5][6] A Japanese study of recovery from methamphetamine psychosis reported a 64% recovery rate within 10 days rising to an 82% recovery rate at 30 days after methamphetamine cessation.[7] However it has been suggested that around 5–15% of users fail to make a complete recovery in the long term.[8] Furthermore, even at a small dose, the psychosis can be quickly reestablished.[7] Psychosocial stress has been found to be an independent risk factor for psychosis relapse even without further amphetamine use in certain cases.[9]
The symptoms of acute amphetamine psychosis are very similar to those of the acute phase of schizophrenia[3] although in amphetamine psychosis visual hallucinations are more common and thought disorder is rare.[10] Amphetamine psychosis may be purely related to high drug usage, or high drug usage may trigger an underlying vulnerability to schizophrenia.[3] There is some evidence that vulnerability to amphetamine psychosis and schizophrenia may be genetically related. Relatives of methamphetamine users with a history of amphetamine psychosis are five times more likely to have been diagnosed with schizophrenia than relatives of methamphetamine users without a history of amphetamine psychosis.[11] The disorders are often distinguished by a rapid resolution of symptoms in amphetamine psychosis, while schizophrenia is more likely to follow a chronic course.[12]
Although rare and not formally recognized,[13][14] a condition known as Amphetamine Withdrawal Psychosis (AWP) may occur upon cessation of amphetamine use and, as the name implies, involves psychosis that appears on withdrawal from amphetamine. However, unlike similar disorders, in AWP amphetamines reduce rather than increase symptoms, and the psychosis or mania resolves with resumption of the previous dosing schedule.[15]
Cocaine[edit]
Cocaine has a similar potential to induce temporary psychosis[16] with more than half of cocaine abusers reporting at least some psychotic symptoms at some point.[17]Typical symptoms of sufferers include paranoid delusions that they are being followed and that their drug use is being watched accompanied by hallucinations that support the delusional beliefs.[17] Delusional parasitosis with formication ("cocaine bugs") is also a fairly common symptom.[18]
Cocaine-induced psychosis shows sensitization toward the psychotic effects of the drug. This means that psychosis becomes more severe with repeated intermittent use.[17][19]
Methylphenidate[edit]
Methylphenidate, better known by its trade name Ritalin, is a central nervous system stimulant with a similar mechanism of action to cocaine.[20][21] Chronic abuse of methylphenidate can also lead to psychosis.[22][23] Although the safety profile of short-term methylphenidate therapy has been well-established, with short-term clinical trials revealing a very low incidence (0.1%) of methylphenidate-induced psychosis at therapeutic dose levels,[24] the specific effects of long-term use of methylphenidate, even at therapeutic doses, remain largely unknown.[25][26] A naturalistic study published in 1999 with an average follow up time of 21 months showed that 6 of 98 children and adolescents who were prescribed methylphenidate in an outpatient clinic developed psychotic symptoms while taking the drug at therapeutic dosages (the exception being a 17 year old on 80 mg daily) with most improving after drug cessation. However the lack of a control group makes it impossible to attribute these effects to the medication.[27]
Concerns have been raised that long-term therapy might cause drug dependence, paranoia, schizophrenia, and behavioral sensitization in a similar manner to other stimulant drugs.[28] Psychotic symptoms from methylphenidate can include hearing voices, visual hallucinations, urges to harm oneself, severe anxiety, mania, grandiosity, paranoid delusions, confusion, increased aggression, and irritability. It is difficult to predict who will develop methylphenidate psychosis as family history of mental illness does not predict the incidence of stimulant toxicosis in children with ADHD.
Withdrawal symptoms of methylphenidate can include psychosis and depression[29] and can be minimized by gradually tapering off the medication.[30][31][32] A very small study (19 subjects) of abrupt withdrawal from stimulants used at therapeutic doses for ADHD and chronic tic disorder suggests that withdrawal reactions are not typical. Nonetheless withdrawal reactions may still occur in susceptible individuals.[33]
Caffeine[edit]
There is limited evidence that caffeine, in high doses or when chronically abused, may induce psychosis in normal individuals and worsen pre-existing psychosis in those diagnosed with schizophrenia.[34][35][36]
Caffeine-induced psychosis is infrequently reported in medical literature and remains controversial due to a lack of study or evidence. It is not clear whether it occurs by a similar mechanism to other stimulant psychoses or whether it is an entirely different process. Like other stimulants caffeine increases dopamine levels though only indirectly. A co-factor of caffeine-induced psychosis may be malnutrition especially in a diet lacking in the B-vitamins. High chronic doses of caffeine, theobromine or theophylline can lead to an exhaustion of the nervous system which may form the basis for a subsequent psychosis.[37][38]
Prolonged heavy use of caffeine is also known to cause chronic insomnia and the ensuing sleep deprivation may then be source of psychosis-like symptoms.[medical citation needed]
Treatment[edit]
Treatment consists of supportive care during the acute intoxication phase: maintaining hydration, body temperature, blood pressure, and heart rate at acceptable levels until the drug is sufficiently metabolized to allow vital signs to return to baseline. Typical and atypical antipsychotics have been shown to be helpful in the early stages of treatment.[3] This is followed by abstinence from psychostimulants supported with counseling or medication designed to assist the individual preventing a relapse and the resumption of a psychotic state.
Distinction from excited delirium[edit]
Though less common than stimulant psychosis stimulants such as cocaine and amphetamines as well as the dissociative drug phencyclidine (PCP, angel dust) can also cause a severe and life-threatening condition known as excited delirium. This condition manifests as a combination of delirium, psychomotor agitation, anxiety, delusions, hallucinations, speech disturbances, disorientation, violent and bizarre behavior, insensitivity to pain, elevated body temperature, and superhuman strength.[39] Despite some superficial similarities in presentation excited delirium is a distinct (and more serious) condition than stimulant psychosis.
See also[edit]
Amphetamine
Delusional parasitosis
Dopamine hypothesis of psychosis
Excited delirium
Psychosis
Substance-induced psychosis
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Not purposely but you could say it was self-induced in a way. It was intense. You ever have a night terror? I don't want share what my night terror was but lets just say it was the worst of the worst. Well I woke up but part of my consciousness was still trapped in the dream. I still felt those feelings of dread and utter terror while awake in the real world. It's hard to describe those feelings because I have never experienced them before. It was like my world was spinning and the devil was laughing. I just wanted to end it. God's honest truth I wanted to die.
I don't know what I experienced but if hell is real i'd say without a doubt I've been there.
This happened to me after trying salvia.
lol. jk, but this is how a friend described his only salvia trip, only there was no devil. i remember him saying that half his body was stuck in a 'dream' and he was trying to pull it out into reality. he was awake the entire time, mind you. hahahaha
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i have a history of deep depression and anxiety disorder, it was very bad... when i did lsd for the first time it seems to have cleared my mind up. i could stop taking all depression pills, bensos etc... i've only done for about 5 times, but in my case i seem to have devloped another way of thinking that stays with me... i think lsd has great use for fixing mental problems... but if you do it always have someone with that have done it before, be in a good set and setting and you wont have a bad trip.... remember that you are in control of your thougths and can decide where you wont the trip to go and never give in to any other way of thinking... if someone is doing this it's always best to have some bensos at hand if things go bad... thats like a safetybelt at hand and that will relax your mind... just saying this for harm reduction as it will take away the posibility of having a bad trip
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The Bible, buy it before it's too late. It s cheaper than any drug or pill and the effects are way deeper and more constant. It s probably harder tho as you have to read and confront what it produces in your mind with reality. But the results are worth it.
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Bunch of jackassey types in this here thread.
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i have a history of deep depression and anxiety disorder, it was very bad... when i did lsd for the first time it seems to have cleared my mind up. i could stop taking all depression pills, bensos etc... i've only done for about 5 times, but in my case i seem to have devloped another way of thinking that stays with me... i think lsd has great use for fixing mental problems... but if you do it always have someone with that have done it before, be in a good set and setting and you wont have a bad trip.... remember that you are in control of your thougths and can decide where you wont the trip to go and never give in to any other way of thinking... if someone is doing this it's always best to have some bensos at hand if things go bad... thats like a safetybelt at hand and that will relax your mind... just saying this for harm reduction as it will take away the posibility of having a bad trip
I've heard people say that mushrooms/LSD can be a form of CLT/ALT/Delete for the brain...
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aaaaaaaaah ::)
You don't think he's describing the onset of a panic attack?
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Interesting thread - mind expanding drugs can have a positive effect on "mental illnesses" though the user has to be aware of it since the confrontation with specific problems/solutions can be overwhelming -> panic.
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Interesting thread - mind expanding drugs can have a positive effect on "mental illnesses" though the user has to be aware of it since the confrontation with specific problems/solutions can be overwhelming -> panic.
Yes...But I do think anyone with mental illness who doesn't have a good sense of self awareness should stay away from mind expanders...
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just thought id share. the thought of eternal is pretty intense
"Infinite dreams I can't deny them, infinity is hard to comprehend"
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"Infinite dreams I can't deny them, infinity is hard to comprehend"
damn nice tune, that song is definitly meant for the thinking man
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damn nice tune, that song is definitly meant for the thinking man
when I saw your post I knew you'd like that and the lyrics
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Interesting thread - mind expanding drugs can have a positive effect on "mental illnesses" though the user has to be aware of it since the confrontation with specific problems/solutions can be overwhelming -> panic.
I would advise against it for anyone w mental issues or a family history of it....bipolar, borderline personality, schizophrenia, etc.
But if you're a normal, well-grounded dude, I think it can only benefit someone
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I have had that shit happen without any drugs at all. Your mind will fuck with you for days even if you prove to yourself it isn't true.
And sometimes it is so vivid you just swear it's true.
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Yes...But I do think anyone with mental illness who doesn't have a good sense of self awareness should stay away from mind expanders...
Mental illness is relative. Clearly some people are more mentally ill then others and some people have episodes which suggest mental illness, but they are merely a lapse in stability and can be fleeting and of no real consequence most of the time. I also believe it is possible to be self aware and still be mentally ill.
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I have been near death only once after a car accident, you start going through your past like a movie in rewind. There was many hallucinations one I had was I thought I was being held in a prison camp and the nurses that came around were injecting me with drugs to kill me slowly. I got through it and remember the day I stepped outside into sunlight it very special, but no I would not want to live forever but don't want a painfull death hopefully I will die in my sleep as my father did.
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I would advise against it for anyone w mental issues or a family history of it....bipolar, borderline personality, schizophrenia, etc.
But if you're a normal, well-grounded dude, I think it can only benefit someone
I have to agree partially here.
I'm talking use/not abuse and starting at a higher age. Weed smokers with mental problems tend to use large quantities over a long period of time. Their personalities may suffer tremendously.
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How much control do you have while on LSD?
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I have been near death only once after a car accident, you start going through your past like a movie in rewind. There was many hallucinations one I had was I thought I was being held in a prison camp and the nurses that came around were injecting me with drugs to kill me slowly. I got through it and remember the day I stepped outside into sunlight it very special, but no I would not want to live forever but don't want a painfull death hopefully I will die in my sleep as my father did.
:'( :'(
man you have been through some close calls with the car wrecks brother. I give many fucks about you and want you to live as long as possible :)
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How much control do you have while on LSD?
I had total control. -Just sat back and enjoyed the entire experience which lasted about 8 to 10 hours.
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We're all "mentally ill", some just hide it better than others. We re all animals pretending they aren't.
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We're all "mentally ill", some just hide it better than others. We re all animals pretending they aren't.
We are NOT animals you idiot. But when you have people like yourself in the world I am starting to this that there are analmans amongst ourselves.
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the other day was reading some thread on some sight where someone said "i dont want my soul to exist eternally"
the more i thought about what was said its like my mind went deeper into that thought putting itself in a place full of fear of the eternal. with also feelings of that feeling you get when your looking down from a very tall building, kinda like when i watch vids of those russian kids just jumping around on the roofs of sky scrapers lol but scary as fuck
anyways i was curious about this feeling and let it continue, not thinking rationally about it but more less teleporting my senses into something "eternal" wich was scary as fuck to ponder. i had that frightening feeling physically and mentally u know looking down from a tall building ect.
i felt my metabolism quickly elevate and in pure fear and desperation i jumped up out of my chair and was literally about to run outside in a madness but stayed in my house and moderatley yelled "I cant take this any more" then i preceeded to calm down because i was feeling very upset thinking about all this
just thought id share. the thought of eternal is pretty intense
What you are experiencing is anxiety nor mania. Mania you would think you are god and eternal and tell everyone about it, you would unlock all the secrets of the universe etc.
Mania usually lacks anxiety about concrete things, delusions and psychosis rarely follow a logical pattern.
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How much control do you have while on LSD?
Control, like as in control over your thoughts/actions?
Well, if you have good stuff it'll be tough to act normal around others.... so i would recommend doing it alone or with 1-2 close friends. But all those stories about thinking you're an orange and using a knife to peel yourself are total myths.
Your thoughts are unusually lucid, and you'll enjoy a completely different perspective on things. The visual hallucinations are incidental, really.
It's tough to explain, but if you have any other questions I'd be happy to try and answer
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Control, like as in control over your thoughts/actions?
Well, if you have good stuff it'll be tough to act normal around others.... so i would recommend doing it alone or with 1-2 close friends. But all those stories about thinking you're an orange and using a knife to peel yourself are total myths.
Your thoughts are unusually lucid, and you'll enjoy a completely different perspective on things. The visual hallucinations are incidental, really.
It's tough to explain, but if you have any other questions I'd be happy to try and answer
There is nothing special about it, ibogaine, ayahuasca etc have potent serotonergic actions, sensitizing the receptors for months on end, inducing strong changes in brain chemistry pretty quickly. It also seems to reset the regulatory mechanisms. LSD etc has some interesting effects in mental health. The data is pretty solid on this. They are just now starting to test the shit, cluster headaches, PTSD.
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We are NOT animals you idiot. But when you have people like yourself in the world I am starting to this that there are analmans amongst ourselves.
haha. look it's the romanian dude who writes books about how to control things and people with your mind haha. Oh well.The only thing we have that other animals dont have is prefrontal lobes that developed above the lymbic system other animals might have developed. You re an ignorant retard, and an hypocrite, manipulating one at that. We are animals, but the difference between animals and real "men" is our ability to believe, to have faith and distance ourselves from our purely animalistic status. You re still as clueless as you ever were it seems. The difference between a man and an animal is his loyalty to God.
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haha. look it's the romanian dude who writes books about how to control things and people with your mind haha. Oh well.The only thing we have that other animals dont have is prefrontal lobes that developed above the lymbic system other animals might have developed. You re an ignorant retard, and an hypocrite, manipulating one at that. We are animals, but the difference between animals and real "men" is our ability to believe, to have faith and distance ourselves from our purely animalistic status. You re still as clueless as you ever were it seems. The difference between a man and an animal is his loyalty to God.
We were better off as a race when we were sun worshipers don't you think?
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We were better off as a race when we were sun worshipers don't you think?
We are animals with animal needs, urges. Now to preserve and cultivate life, make it evolve and become eternal (God(s), we need spiritual guidance. Spirituality cannot be removed from who we are. We all need a strong spiritual base to make good use of our minds and bodies. We are molecules in a test tube and someone is watching above, just like we re watching our kids from above. Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed. We know what our bodies become once we die, what about our minds? Why would they simply disapear? One thing is sure heaven is not on earth. It means it has to be somewhere else? How comes we will probably never be able to leave the planet? How comes scientists see the probability there might be other "mankinds" in the universe ? How comes we have the hability as humans to understand the perfection of everything that surrounds us, while other animal species cant?
Now there's spirituality, and spirituality. Many people are "mystic", and dont want to believe or be labeled as belivers. But we all believe in something bigger. We can all sense it. An order in things, "karma" etc. Just like in the physical conditioning world some paths are leading nowhere and only the natural, healthy way is the right way, in the spiritual world there are many choices to choose from, but only one is the real deal.
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Kooky as fuck. E'ryday.
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We are animals with animal needs, urges. Now to preserve and cultivate life, make it evolve and become eternal (God(s), we need spiritual guidance. Spirituality cannot be removed from who we are. We all need a strong spiritual base to make good use of our minds and bodies. We are molecules in a test tube and someone is watching above, just like we re watching our kids from above. Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed. We know what our bodies become once we die, what about our minds? Why would they simply disapear? One thing is sure heaven is not on earth. It means it has to be somewhere else? How comes we will probably never be able to leave the planet? How comes scientists see the probability there might be other "mankinds" in the universe ? How comes we have the hability as humans to understand the perfection of everything that surrounds us, while other animal species cant?
Now there's spirituality, and spirituality. Many people are "mystic", and dont want to believe or be labeled as belivers. But we all believe in something bigger. We can all sense it. An order in things, "karma" etc. Just like in the physical conditioning world some paths are leading nowhere and only the natural, healthy way is the right way, in the spiritual world there are many choices to choose from, but only one is the real deal.
See this is where you lose me.
An animal kills, eats, reproduces, and survives, nothing else. But we complicate things because its human nature, that's the difference between us and the animals. These minds we have are very easily programmed and manipulated adding to the delusions of "good, bad" and "karma". I see them as nothing but ways for us to live in orderly societies where you're controlled, and only your government and those in power can do what we're all supposed to be able to do.
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We are animals with animal needs, urges. Now to preserve and cultivate life, make it evolve and become eternal (God(s), we need spiritual guidance. Spirituality cannot be removed from who we are. We all need a strong spiritual base to make good use of our minds and bodies. We are molecules in a test tube and someone is watching above, just like we re watching our kids from above. Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed. We know what our bodies become once we die, what about our minds? Why would they simply disapear? One thing is sure heaven is not on earth. It means it has to be somewhere else? How comes we will probably never be able to leave the planet? How comes scientists see the probability there might be other "mankinds" in the universe ? How comes we have the hability as humans to understand the perfection of everything that surrounds us, while other animal species cant?
Now there's spirituality, and spirituality. Many people are "mystic", and dont want to believe or be labeled as belivers. But we all believe in something bigger. We can all sense it. An order in things, "karma" etc. Just like in the physical conditioning world some paths are leading nowhere and only the natural, healthy way is the right way, in the spiritual world there are many choices to choose from, but only one is the real deal.
Our minds aren't a thing but a process, the answer as to what happens to the "mind" is contained within the definitions. For example, birds migrate, however you don't ask what happens to migration when the birds die? or how about a picture in a film of the ocean, if you open the camera water doesn't spill out, the mind analogous to migration and the ocean, the brain the thing. This idea you have is called duality and is debunked firmly, we are molecules in a petri dish but it appears no one is watching.
The perfection of everything around us? what is perfect? I could do a far better job making a perfect world. Think about our eating and breathing, the same hole? this means people will die trying to eat, dolphins avoid this issue. How about the perfect eye? half of the people living nowadays have eye issues. What about my dick? It is both a play toy and disposal unit opening up all sorts of shitty possibilities, hehe.
Where you see something mystical, I see pseudoscientific ramblings, where you see perfection, I see utter chaos.
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Our minds aren't a thing but a process, the answer as to what happens to the "mind" is contained within the definitions. For example, birds migrate, however you don't ask what happens to migration when the birds die? or how about a picture in a film of the ocean, if you open the camera water doesn't spill out, the mind analogous to migration and the ocean, the brain the thing. This idea you have is called duality and is debunked firmly, we are molecules in a petri dish but it appears no one is watching.
The perfection of everything around us? what is perfect? I could do a far better job making a perfect world. Think about our eating and breathing, the same hole? this means people will die trying to eat, dolphins avoid this issue. How about the perfect eye? half of the people living nowadays have eye issues. What about my dick? It is both a play toy and disposal unit opening up all sorts of shitty possibilities, hehe.
Where you see something mystical, I see pseudoscientific ramblings, where you see perfection, I see utter chaos.
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Perhaps the imperfection of it all is what drives the human mind to wanna believe in things such as spirituality, heaven, gods, etc.