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Title: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 26, 2013, 08:24:24 PM
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'We've reached the end of antibiotics': Top CDC expert declares that 'miracle drugs' that have saved millions are no match against 'superbugs' because people have overmedicated themselves


A high-ranking official with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has declared in an interview with PBS that the age of antibiotics has come to an end.

'For a long time, there have been newspaper stories and covers of magazines that talked about "The end of antibiotics, question mark?"' said Dr Arjun Srinivasan. 'Well, now I would say you can change the title to "The end of antibiotics, period.”'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2477273/Weve-reached-end-antibiotics-Top-CDC-expert-declares-miracle-drugs-saved-millions-match-superbugs-people-overmedicated-themselves.html#ixzz2itBr95m5
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Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: arce1988 on October 26, 2013, 08:36:21 PM
  We are fucked.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 26, 2013, 08:38:15 PM
I do NOT trust the MEDICAL establishment
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: cephissus on October 26, 2013, 08:48:28 PM
I do NOT trust the MEDICAL establishment

forgot to log back into your 'arce' account
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 26, 2013, 08:55:58 PM
forgot to log back into your 'arce' account

 :D ;D
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 26, 2013, 09:10:37 PM
I do NOT trust the MEDICAL establishment

Spot on  :D
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Mr. MB on October 26, 2013, 09:18:28 PM
5-NI drugs with some research money will save the day......maybe.

http://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/Pages/2013-10-07-new-antimicrobials-from-old.aspx
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: arce1988 on October 26, 2013, 09:41:02 PM
  I am the only one who uses my account.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: 240 is Back on October 26, 2013, 09:45:49 PM
it is pretty crazy how some people will do a run of antibiotics ten times a year. 

I just bench and squat more than usual to recovery quickly.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 26, 2013, 09:49:51 PM
I am the ONLY one who uses ARCE1988 account.

Semper Fi, PED, ttt...

 :D ;D

Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: ganero76 on October 26, 2013, 10:07:37 PM
  I am the only one who uses my account.
Hey gimmick: start looking for a new home. I'm going to have you pitched out of here.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: calfzilla on October 27, 2013, 01:47:06 AM
:D ;D

Hey bro, I need you to pick me up from LAX.  ;D
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Raymondo on October 27, 2013, 01:49:21 AM
If the Daily Mail says so it must be true. Also, arce1988 agrees and he is an original member of Mensa. So, definitely true.

 :D ;D
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: WOOO on October 27, 2013, 02:26:30 AM
it's nice that i am already 35... figure my life is almost half over... global warming and plagues should kick into over drive right after i kick the  can
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: anabolichalo on October 27, 2013, 02:32:43 AM
see you fellas after judgement day and the righteous shall repopulate the earth in a new world order 8)
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: WOOO on October 27, 2013, 02:34:07 AM
see you fellas after judgement day and the righteous shall repopulate the earth in a new world order 8)


fuck that... i want my body to rot in the ground and i want my consciousness to cease to exist
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: anabolichalo on October 27, 2013, 02:35:09 AM

fuck that... i want my body to rot in the ground and i want my consciousness to cease to exist
all you have to do is live a sinful life so you are well on your way
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: WOOO on October 27, 2013, 02:36:18 AM
all you have to do is live a sinful life so you are well on your way



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Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on October 27, 2013, 04:25:16 AM
I thought that said "an end to anabolics." I almost fainted  :o
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: whitewidow on October 27, 2013, 04:37:11 AM
I get amoxicillin wich works for sinus infections and ear infections
The antidiotic augmentin is spendy but has great benefits
The best antibiotic is levaquin it is a all purpose anti-biotic wehter you have a sinus infection,ear infection,bladder infection, cellulitis, levaquin will take that shit right away it is super expensive just the generic is 225$ for 14 tabs that is without insurance if you have good insurance you can get it for 15$. but no insurance it is def the most expensive antibiotic.
even with antibiotics like amoxicillin without insurance you can still get 15 tabs for 4$, augmentin wich is pretty much the same shit with just some with some potassium clavunate in it is still like 50$ no insurance.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 27, 2013, 04:40:22 AM
Need more probiotics.   All this anti stuff is negative. 
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Krankenstein on October 27, 2013, 04:42:27 AM
I get amoxicillin wich works for sinus infections and ear infections
The antidiotic augmentin is spendy but has great benefits
The best antibiotic is levaquin it is a all purpose anti-biotic wehter you have a sinus infection,ear infection,bladder infection, cellulitis, levaquin will take that shit right away it is super expensive just the generic is 225$ for 14 tabs that is without insurance if you have good insurance you can get it for 15$. but no insurance it is def the most expensive antibiotic.
even with antibiotics like amoxicillin without insurance you can still get 15 tabs for 4$, augmentin wich is pretty much the same shit with just some with some potassium clavunate in it is still like 50$ no insurance.

Have you ever asked yourself why you get these infections so frequently?
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: robingraves on October 27, 2013, 05:17:22 AM
"high ranking official".....sounds like a solid news story.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 27, 2013, 05:55:46 AM
"high ranking official".....sounds like a solid news story.

Take oregano oil, garlic and Vitamin D everyday.  You will never get the flu again.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: youandme on October 27, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
"overmedicated themselves"  ::)  ::)

No, over populated themselves and live unsanitary lifestyles where they do not shower or bath for days.


Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: youandme on October 27, 2013, 06:40:24 AM
Need more probiotics.   All this anti stuff is negative. 
lmao
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: dustin on October 27, 2013, 07:18:08 AM
I know doctors that prescribe antibiotics to anyone who mentions having a sore throat or feeling under the weather. And I know other doctors who won't give out any unless you're almost on your death bed. I think doctors need to lean towards the latter. I don't take antibiotics anymore unless I feel like death. It's so sketchy when there is an MRSA outbreak at the hospital and shit like that.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on October 27, 2013, 09:35:13 AM
Antibiotic use on cattle (or production animals in general) is one of the big reasons for resistance in bacteria.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Meaningless on October 27, 2013, 09:45:24 AM
Idiots. Healthy living. Test, exercise, high dose vitamin c, good natural diet, and try live a stress free life.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Parker on October 27, 2013, 09:51:20 AM
Take oregano oil, garlic and Vitamin D everyday.  You will never get the flu again.
Of course, because everybody will be trying to avoid you. Garlic comes of out of your pores, like curry does.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: GigantorX on October 27, 2013, 10:19:56 AM
I know doctors that prescribe antibiotics to anyone who mentions having a sore throat or feeling under the weather. And I know other doctors who won't give out any unless you're almost on your death bed. I think doctors need to lean towards the latter. I don't take antibiotics anymore unless I feel like death. It's so sketchy when there is an MRSA outbreak at the hospital and shit like that.

Yes, I work with a lot primary care docs, NP's in my field and it's the same story.

Random Person: "oh man, I've got a cold, all congested and my head hurts so I went to the Dr. and got a Z-Pack."
---I couldn't believe it, how dumb is this person and how willfully negligent is the Dr? Unless it's bacterial an anti-biotic will do nothing except make whatever viruses/bacterias that are in your body more resistant to future applications. Add in the fact that people are fucking retarded and won't take the full application to term i.e. they will quit it when they "feel better."


I've even heard RN's rattle off "yeah, I've got this terrible cold, I'll just grab an anti-biotic from the Dr...."

You can add in our absolute aversion to anything "germ" with slathering on of antibacterial products and even doing the same for children.

Stupidity, stupidity, stupidity. Ruining the miracle drug for everyone.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: dustin on October 27, 2013, 10:41:54 AM
Yes, I work with a lot primary care docs, NP's in my field and it's the same story.

Random Person: "oh man, I've got a cold, all congested and my head hurts so I went to the Dr. and got a Z-Pack."
---I couldn't believe it, how dumb is this person and how willfully negligent is the Dr? Unless it's bacterial an anti-biotic will do nothing except make whatever viruses/bacterias that are in your body more resistant to future applications. Add in the fact that people are fucking retarded and won't take the full application to term i.e. they will quit it when they "feel better."


I've even heard RN's rattle off "yeah, I've got this terrible cold, I'll just grab an anti-biotic from the Dr...."

You can add in our absolute aversion to anything "germ" with slathering on of antibacterial products and even doing the same for children.

Stupidity, stupidity, stupidity. Ruining the miracle drug for everyone.

And just watch too, those people will probably take just half the z-pack and turf the rest. A couple of left over pills ain't a big deal, right? :o ::)

I know lots of doctors and nurses that fight to educate others in their field but it's just so rampant. I was talking to my friend who's finishing up his residency and he ran into a veteran nurse who didn't know the difference between the volume and the dose of an order. The doc (my friend) saw the order and told her it was an incomplete order and told her she needs to get it clarified because it doesn't specify the actual dose. And she wrote him off as a newbie know-it-all and just said "see, the order says a volume of 5mls of xxx drug. So I just infuse the whole 5mls. That's the way I've ALWAYS done it!!".

Another sketchy and recent case was when a patient was in the ICU and became septic, he saw a nurse slowing down the patient's IV because she checked his chest and heard crackles. I'm not a doctor, but when you have sepsis all I've ever heard is flush, flush, flush. Better to have crackles than to be DEAD. The patient died too of course... I do my best to stay out of the hospital. I know most of the ER nurses and doctors in town and told them if I ever come in there unconscious, to PLEASE watch over me and don't let someone kill me. :-\
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Rami on October 27, 2013, 10:45:22 AM
..or you could just live in a country where people wash their hands
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: dustin on October 27, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
..or you could just live in a country where people wash their hands

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Apparently the masses are too fucking stupid though. Discouraging, eh?
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: MisterMagoo on October 27, 2013, 11:15:28 AM
I do NOT trust the MEDICAL establishment

wouldn't that mean you don't trust the CDC guy who said that, then? ???
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: whitewidow on October 27, 2013, 12:37:13 PM
Have you ever asked yourself why you get these infections so frequently?

had alot of ear infections when I was a kid. got amoxicillin and augmentin for them. recently I had a touch of a sinus infection and got prescribed levequin. I had surgey on my ears so I don't get ear infections anymore.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 27, 2013, 12:55:42 PM
Antibiotic use on cattle (or production animals in general) is one of the big reasons for resistance in bacteria.

Bro, I'm almost 95% sure that has no affect on the effectiveness of antibiotics on humans?

Did I get my effect versus affect mixed up?
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: WOOO on October 27, 2013, 12:58:24 PM
Antibiotic use on cattle (or production animals in general) is one of the big reasons for resistance in bacteria.


pigs and chicken are the larger issue
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: galeniko on October 27, 2013, 01:01:29 PM
antibiotics is one of the best findings ever made by humans.

and by sheer idiocy, were flushing the benefits of them down the toilet.


how anyone could voluntarily overmedicate on them is beyond me.

they should be used as last resort kinda thing,that was the purpose


antibiotics use on cattle doesnt have effect on humans,lol, think about it.the cattle gets frozen, cooked at high heat before its eaten, this isnt the same as popping a tablet
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: galeniko on October 27, 2013, 01:02:01 PM
but it can play a role in bacteria becoming resistent,the cattle thing
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: dustin on October 27, 2013, 01:06:36 PM
but it can play a role in bacteria becoming resistent,the cattle thing

That's the thing. We're just fucking around with too many things when we shouldn't be. Why do our livestock need so many drugs to stay alive? What about a couple hundred years ago when people got by just fine? We always take the easiest and most profitable way out.

I'm not a bleeding heart, hippy vegan or anything. But I sure wish we did things better.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: 240 is Back on October 27, 2013, 01:09:42 PM


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LOL!  Wittiest graphics use this month on getbig.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: galeniko on October 27, 2013, 01:10:44 PM
That's the thing. We're just fucking around with too many things when we shouldn't be. Why do our livestock need so many drugs to stay alive? What about a couple hundred years ago when people got by just fine? We always take the easiest and most profitable way out.

I'm not a bleeding heart, hippy vegan or anything. But I sure wish we did things better.
well but on other hand we cry about gm crops while disregarding the value of them,often the purpose is just to feed the cattle in order we humans can eat more meat.etc.

in the end, its up to the consumer,we want cheap.well, maybe not we, but the majority of ppl

think of the fatsos who get in line at mcdonalds, to eat when they shouldnt even be thinking of food in the first place :D
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: blinky on October 27, 2013, 07:32:41 PM
i dont remember the last time i took antibiotics

Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: cephissus on October 27, 2013, 07:43:49 PM
i dont remember the last time i took antibiotics



x2 i think i've been sick about twice in the past decade

lol @ weaklings who are "out of the office" every other week because "i'm feeling under the weather"

::)

:D
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Gonuclear on October 27, 2013, 08:53:34 PM
 
Of course, because everybody will be trying to avoid you. Garlic comes of out of your pores, like curry does.

 :)
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 27, 2013, 08:58:33 PM
If you take antibiotics that completely kill the strain that's making you sick, how does a stronger mutated version get passed on?

Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 27, 2013, 08:59:57 PM
I know doctors that prescribe antibiotics to anyone who mentions having a sore throat or feeling under the weather. And I know other doctors who won't give out any unless you're almost on your death bed. I think doctors need to lean towards the latter. I don't take antibiotics anymore unless I feel like death. It's so sketchy when there is an MRSA outbreak at the hospital and shit like that.

The doctors mentioned in the first part of your post are guilty of malpractice.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: blinky on October 27, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
x2 i think i've been sick about twice in the past decade

lol @ weaklings who are "out of the office" every other week because "i'm feeling under the weather"

::)

:D

i get sick...but i see no point in going to the doc to get anibiotics for a cold or flu
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: phreak on October 28, 2013, 12:56:51 AM
i dont remember the last time i took antibiotics


x2. In fact I know that the last time I used them was about 35 years ago.
Title: Re: 'We've reached the end of antibiotics'
Post by: honest on October 28, 2013, 01:03:25 AM
STDS and over the counter availability in the third world contribute greatly to this theory.