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it was fucked up
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I did not watch blackfish, But today I did eat a fish hope that makes you happy.
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Yes it was pretty good... in a sad way.
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Having those things in tanks is pretty fukced up from us humans...
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Fuck Seaworld and everyone that visits that place >:(
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Fuck Seaworld and everyone that visits that place >:(
x2. The exploitation of animals for profit is disgusting. Just leave the fuckers alone !
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Fuck Seaworld and everyone that visits that place >:(
But at the same time Seaworld does a lot of good in increasing public awareness of marine wildlife. Lots of children go there and gain a respect for the ocean and it's inhabitants that they carry into their adulthood. Seaworld has had an affect on our culture and I'll say it's been more positive than anything.
If if weren't for Seaworld we'd might be eating Shamu at seafood buffet.
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But at the same time Seaworld does a lot of good in increasing public awareness of marine wildlife. Lots of children go there and gain a respect for the ocean and it's inhabitants that they carry into their adulthood. Seaworld has had an affect on our culture and I'll say it's been more positive than anything.
If if weren't for Seaworld we'd might be eating Shamu at seafood buffet.
Awareness of marine wildlife ? What's to be aware of? How can you educate people to treat animals with respect when you enslave them, expose them to un-natural environments and exploit them for money. Thanks seaworld for teaching me that animals don't have any rights and humans can do whatever the fuck they like to them.
It's like saying the mafia is good because they donate lots of money to the church.
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they put some beautiful and intelligent creatures in a giant fishtank for us to look at, every once in awhile, they decide to eat one of us. what did you expect?
we did the same thing in the military except with dolphins...
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What if I told you
that you
are a captive
too.
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it was an awesome documentary...it sickens me how seaworld said that it was the trainer's fault that she got killed and the freaking Orca was acting normal.....I've been to seaworld many times and I won't be going there anytime soon......that whale that killed that trainer is still doing shows at the park
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I remember that one chick being bounced around the tank and then emerging with her forearm shaped like a small hill.
No PETA, but you can take the animal out of the wild, but you can't take the wild out of the animal.
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What if I told you
that you
are a captive
too.
we are all prisoners to the system
doesn't mean we can fuck these creatures up for our amusement
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why don't they start training Great white for shows as well...... ;D
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Obviously intelligent creatures. I would like to see programs that could encourage whale/dolphin-human communication. Like what each click/sound symbolizes and it's human (English) equivalent. Establishing a chart or an alphabet for them, and charting the different languages of each species, and how they are similar as well.
This could lead them in helping us find out more about our oceans, and help find lost or stranded people at sea during disasters.
They could also help us chart missing ships, land masses, etc.
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Obviously intelligent creatures. I would like to see programs that could encourage whale/dolphin-human communication. Like what each click/sound symbolizes and it's human (English) equivalent. Establishing a chart or an alphabet for them, and charting the different languages of each species, and how they are similar as well.
This could lead them in helping us find out more about our oceans, and help find lost or stranded people at sea during disasters.
They could also help us chart missing ships, land masses, etc.
or alternatively we could just leave them the fuck alone
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or alternatively we could just leave them the fuck alone
Naw, that will never happen...check the Japanese and their slaughter of dolphins, and in Asian countries the slaughter of sharks for shark fin soup (PETA only cries when cutesy animals are slaughtered)
Understanding marine mammals is key to understanding ourselves and our role in this world---it makes it more humbling and makes one appreciate the flora and fauna of this world.
Besides, the marine world is still alien to us, new creatures being found...creatures that possibly marine mammals such as the tooth and baleen whales have seen before. Communication with them can actually open up this world to us. Also, look at giant squid, in order to understand them, scientists look to sperm whales, which feed on giant squid.
Just leaving things alone, ain't the answer. Using respect and appreciation is the key.
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Animals have two purposes in life, survive and procreate. Sea World gives them shelter and allows them to survive and they can have babies. So whats the big deal? How many of you have dogs or cats? What's the difference? Does you dog belong in a big open prairie to fend for himself or enjoy the homes and food you give them?
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Animals have two purposes in life, survive and procreate. Sea World gives them shelter and allows them to survive and they can have babies. So whats the big deal? How many of you have dogs or cats? What's the difference? Does you dog belong in a big open prairie to fend for himself or enjoy the homes and food you give them?
Bad comparison, man. Some people chain their dog to a post for 10 years. This is more like that.
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Naw, that will never happen...check the Japanese and their slaughter of dolphins, and in Asian countries the slaughter of sharks for shark fin soup (PETA only cries when cutesy animals are slaughtered)
Understanding marine mammals is key to understanding ourselves and our role in this world---it makes it more humbling and makes one appreciate the flora and fauna of this world.
Besides, the marine world is still alien to us, new creatures being found...creatures that possibly marine mammals such as the tooth and baleen whales have seen before. Communication with them can actually open up this world to us. Also, look at giant squid, in order to understand them, scientists look to sperm whales, which feed on giant squid.
Just leaving things alone, ain't the answer. Using respect and appreciation is the key.
the big flaw in your argument is the human element
we could study them in their own environment
or do what we do - put them in swimming pools and get them to do tricks for us
we(humans) suck at being the top of the food chain in the world
we either kill shit or fuck them up for our amusement
I pity the creatures of the world
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Bad comparison, man. Some people chain their dog to a post for 10 years. This is more like that.
they are not chained though. They have a big swimming area, are fed really well and treated well.
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the big flaw in your argument is the human element
we could study them in their own environment
or do what we do - put them in swimming pools and get them to do tricks for us
we(humans) suck at being the top of the food chain in the world
we either kill shit or fuck them up for our amusement
I pity the creatures of the world
The human element, is the "make money" element aka greed. There is no money in studying them in their own environments, in fact you have to beg for money.
The shows make money, and possibly fund programs for the study of said animals.
(I don't know), but I have never gone to Sea World, only to the National Aquarium---and have always liked the Amazon exhibit.
Because of these exhibits, it can pique a child's mind into going into marine biology, or having respect for said creatures. Exploitation, yes...but at least it's better than killing them off like humans used to do 100 yrs ago.
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or alternatively we could just leave them the fuck alone
I vote for that.
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or alternatively we could just leave them the fuck alone
That goes against Human Nature. Humans have this innate need to fuck with nature. They just can't help themselves
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That goes against Human Nature. Humans have this innate need to fuck with nature. They just can't help themselves
Unfortunately this is true, but I find it a weak excuse.
When all nations had the same policy as Japan, whales would be fucked. The same with China -> tigers, Tanzania -> elephants, etc...
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Why not have them in captivity? Would you rather see this? :'(
(http://abcnews.go.com/images/International/gty_whale_shark_pakistan_4_wy_120207_wblog.jpg)
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That goes against Human Nature. Humans have this innate need to fuck with nature. They just can't help themselves
we have to change our nature
or it will be a lonely planet
just us and the cockroaches
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Is Blackfish similar to mudshark?
(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/sections/56763/kim_kardashian_56763.jpg)
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Yeah, I watched it. Good movie. Sea-world is just a horrible company, I will never visit their parks or give them any of my money
Check out "The Cove" when you get a chance.
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Is Blackfish similar to mudshark?
(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/sections/56763/kim_kardashian_56763.jpg)
Why not put a bunch of mudsharks in a basin and perform creative acts with them?
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I saw this the other day. Those Kardashian sisters make me sick...
Oh wait, that was the Mudshark documentary.
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Why not put a bunch of mudsharks in a basin and perform creative acts with them?
They do, its call the E! network
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Yeah, I watched it. Good movie. Sea-world is just a horrible company, I will never visit their parks or give them any of my money
Check out "The Cove" when you get a chance.
Saw the Cove...Fukcing crazy Japs.
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Awareness of marine wildlife ? What's to be aware of? How can you educate people to treat animals with respect when you enslave them, expose them to un-natural environments and exploit them for money. Thanks seaworld for teaching me that animals don't have any rights and humans can do whatever the fuck they like to them.
It's like saying the mafia is good because they donate lots of money to the church.
I think you have a very narrow view of the situation.
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why don't they start training Great white for shows as well...... ;D
What, you don;t think these freaks would do it if they could. The fact is, Great Whites don't survive in captivity.
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Awareness of marine wildlife ? What's to be aware of? How can you educate people to treat animals with respect when you enslave them, expose them to un-natural environments and exploit them for money. Thanks seaworld for teaching me that animals don't have any rights and humans can do whatever the fuck they like to them.
It's like saying the mafia is good because they donate lots of money to the church.
would you change your view if you found out that killer whales are muslim?
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The fact is, Great Whites don't survive in captivity.
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Why?
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Animals have two purposes in life, survive and procreate. Sea World gives them shelter and allows them to survive and they can have babies. So whats the big deal? How many of you have dogs or cats? What's the difference? Does you dog belong in a big open prairie to fend for himself or enjoy the homes and food you give them?
Dogs and cats have been domesticated over a very long period of time, they can't survive independent of humans. They have been deliberately created that way through human Intervention (artificial selection). Whales are wild animals more than capable of surviving without humans. The pet industry is just as bad. Pets are considered a commodity, they are overbred and a surplus created, this surplus is simply destroyed (millions a year). Not only that, there are the puppy mills which treat animals as breeding machines and the conditions in these places create much suffering for the animals. Then there is the petfood industry, which relies on many animals being slaughtered to feed them. 150 billion animals are slaughtered each year for human and pet consumption. And when you consider over 20,000 people die of starvation each day, it seems like a selfish indulgence to own a pet. The pet industry is built on the suffering of animals.
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Dogs and cats are domesticated, they can't survive independent of humans. They have been deliberately created that way through human Intervention (artificial selection). Whales are wild animals more than capable of surviving without humans. The pet industry is just as bad. Pets are considered a commodity, they are overbred and a surplus created, this surplus is simply destroyed (millions a year). Not only that, there are the puppy mills which treat animals as breeding machines and the conditions in these places create much suffering for the animals. Then there is the petfood industry, which relies on many animals being slaughtered to feed them. 150 billion animals are slaughtered each year for human and pet consumption. And when you consider over 20,000 people die of starvation each day, it seems like a selfish indulgence to own a pet. The pet industry is built on the suffering of animals.
You sound like the kinda guy people move away from at a party.
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I think you have a very narrow view of the situation.
Oh Really, care to explain. You probably didn't even watch the documentary. Seaworld are hypocrites, they mistreat marine life and then encourage others to respect it. I think it is you who has not only a narrow view, but a disturbing one at that. You are probably just assuaging any guilt you feel at your enjoyment of watching such an exploitative spectacle. Your point of view is the very reason animals will continue to be exploited well into the future by do-gooders.
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You sound like the kinda guy people move away from at a party.
You sound like the kind of guy that gets a hard on torturing a cat.
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would you change your view if you found out that killer whales are muslim?
There is no way killer whales are muslim, if anything they are anti-muslim, they are a matriarchal society. Their social unit is ruled by women.
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Oh Really, care to explain. You probably didn't even watch the documentary. Seaworld are hypocrites, they mistreat marine life and then encourage others to respect it. I think it is you who has not only a narrow view, but a disturbing one at that. You are probably just assuaging any guilt you feel at your enjoyment of watching such an exploitative spectacle.
Why so assumptive and hostile, E-Kul? Calm down, the world isn't so black and white.
Ideally I'd want no whales or dolphins in captivity and I absolutely agree that Seaworld behaved badly - probably just as badly as most capitalists in their pursuit of financial gain, however, I can not ignore the positive contributions such as their animal rescue and rehabilitation program which has helped over 20,000 animals from a means acquired by their commercial pursuits which involve the exploitative spectacles both you AND I dislike.
Now when it comes to the culture effects that seaworld and the like have had on our society I believe they have done more good than harm. My view does not assuage or dismiss the harm they've inflected on these animals its simple my attempt to look at the totality of the situation. The fact of the matter is for the overwhelming majority of people here in the US their interaction with intelligent sealife is almost entirely limited to their experiences at Seaworld. Let that soak in for a few minutes and you'll realize just how important a role they've had in shaping our cultural views of these animals. It is through Seaworld and the like that we get to see first hand how truly intelligent these creatures are. What most take away from their experience is a new respect for these intelligent sentient beings - that whales and dolphins are NOT mere fish.
Now if you support PETA then all I can say is fuck you fagget while I enjoy my fish sticks and dolphin-safe canned tuna, fagget.
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Why so assumptive and hostile, E-Kul? Calm down, the world isn't so black and white.
Ideally I'd want no whales or dolphins in captivity and I absolutely agree that Seaworld behaved badly - probably just as badly as most capitalists in their pursuit of financial gain, however, I can not ignore the positive contributions such as their animal rescue and rehabilitation program which has helped over 20,000 animals from a means acquired by their commercial pursuits which involve the exploitative spectacles both you AND I dislike.
Now when it comes to the culture effects that seaworld and the like have had on our society I believe they have done more good than harm. My view does not assuage or dismiss the harm they've inflected on these animals its simple my attempt to look at the totality of the situation. The fact of the matter is for the overwhelming majority of people here in the US their interaction with intelligent sealife is almost entirely limited to their experiences at Seaworld. Let that soak in for a few minutes and you'll realize just how important a role they've had in shaping our cultural views of these animals. It is through Seaworld and the like that we get to see first hand how truly intelligent these creatures are. What most take away from their experience is a new respect for these intelligent sentient beings - that whales and dolphins are NOT mere fish.
Now if you support PETA then all I can say is fuck you fagget while I enjoy my fish sticks and dolphin-safe canned tuna, fagget.
You can spin it any way you like, it all adds up to exploitation. I don't know why it is so important that the average American needs to appreciate how intelligent a killer whale is, or why they even need to interact with them. And I believe Seaworld does far more harm than good. The best way to educate others is by example, and seaworld's example sucks ! PETA Rocks !
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Fagget.
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You sound like the kind of guy that gets a hard on torturing a cat.
Nope love cats and dogs, PETA boy.
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I like keeping my dog in captivity. :D
She likes it too. :)
She would get hit by a car if let loose. :(
So I protect her. :)
We're best friends. 8)
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the big flaw in your argument is the human element
we could study them in their own environment
or do what we do - put them in swimming pools and get them to do tricks for us
we(humans) suck at being the top of the food chain in the world
we either kill shit or fuck them up for our amusement
I pity the creatures of the world
Yeah, lions and bears are way better at being apex predators. I think a new school for the betterment of wildebeest children was just started by a group of male lions actually.
Fucking moron
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Fagget.
Strong argument ::)
BTW, it's 'faggot', you faggot
"A misspelling of faggot, popularized by the lack of spell-checking in chatrooms." - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fagget
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For you PETA faggets.
This morning I enjoyed feasting on the unborn children of a chicken. They had so much potential... that is until I stole them from their mother and ate them.
Tonight I will eat their mother ripping her body apart limb by limb until there's nothing left but her bones.
Savage. 8)
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For you PETA faggets.
This morning I enjoyed feasting on the unborn children of a chicken. They had so much potential... that is until I stole them from their mother and ate them.
Tonight I will eat their mother ripping her body apart limb by limb until there's nothing left but her bones.
Savage. 8)
Wow, you're a bad ass mofo ::)
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For you PETA faggets.
This morning I enjoyed feasting on the unborn children of a chicken. They had so much potential... that is until I stole them from their mother and ate them.
Tonight I will eat their mother ripping her body apart limb by limb until there's nothing left but her bones.
Savage. 8)
Ahahaha...
I love it, although...if you posted a pic of an with the chicken embryo fully formed and de-shelled...
Now that my friend is "raw"
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Because of this thread, I had to go and watch a re-run of BLackfish. Very tragic.
I'm sure a lot of things in the documentary were exaggerated to support the director' point of view, but you cannot question the asshole-ness of SeaWorld executives. In one interview, they straight up said "if she (the girl who was killed by the whale) was here, she would clearly admit it was her mistake".
That's unethical and uncalled for.
They also bred over 50 whales using the sperm from that killer whale with a history of killing people. It's 2013, we all know aggressiveness is a genetic trait. If one of those 50 whales kill someone, i hope someone sues the fuck out of SeaWorld.
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Not trying to be funny or anything but I think they're called KILLER whales for a reason.
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http://www.sharkbookings.com/why-great-white-sharks-cannot-be-kept-in-captivity/
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http://www.break.com/video/ugc/killer-whale-grabs-man-off-of-beach-2141730
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Not trying to be funny or anything but I think they're called KILLER whales for a reason.
Sure, they kill by default ::)
But at the same time Seaworld does a lot of good in increasing public awareness of marine wildlife.
::)
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Dolphins, orcas and whales are a higher civilisation brought in from the Andromeda Galaxy some 800,000 years ago to assist with the creation of the human race.
They are such a higher civilisation that they can't prevent a collection of savages removing them from their natural environment and exploiting them for mere entertainment purposes. Somehow, when I imagine what a life form from a higher civilisation would be like, the image of a human riding on it's back in a humiliating fashion to entertain the moronic masses never occurs to me.
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sad fucking world we live in. perhaps its time for the human race to be wiped out for the Earth to regenerate and rejuvenate.
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When you think about it we're some weird creatures. We're the most intelligent species this planet has ever seen yet we can be so ... backwards? and destructive.
It's almost as if being too intelligent is a bad thing. Too much choice... too many ways to go wrong.
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sad fucking world we live in. perhaps its time for the human race to be wiped out for the Earth to regenerate and rejuvenate.
One or multiple asteroids could do that, and I would welcome that.
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sad fucking world we live in. perhaps its time for the human race to be wiped out for the Earth to regenerate and rejuvenate.
100%
we prolly aren't the first civilization to exist on this planet. water erosion on the Sphinx points to that, given it was created during a time by a people when that area was much less arid.
we're just part of a cycle here the planet goes thru. what brings abt each new civilization is a mystery. prolly one we are not meant to know. makes for great mystery tho.
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One or multiple asteroids could do that, and I would welcome that.
Any asteroid that targets specifically negroes?
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Good movie..
going to seaworld / aquatica in 2 weeks ;D
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Any asteroid that targets specifically negroes?
If gigantic watermelons or KFC chickens could fly though space...
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If gigantic watermelons or KFC chickens could fly though space...
;D
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Animals have two purposes in life, survive and procreate. Sea World gives them shelter and allows them to survive and they can have babies. So whats the big deal? How many of you have dogs or cats? What's the difference? Does you dog belong in a big open prairie to fend for himself or enjoy the homes and food you give them?
and they make money out of it ;)
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Sure, they kill by default ::)
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You're a PETA fagget...there's no use arguing with you simpletons.
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Good movie..
going to seaworld / aquatica in 2 weeks ;D
Fish and chips ritual right after bro. It hits the feel goods every time. 8)
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You're a PETA fagget...there's no use arguing with you simpletons.
Looks like we're thinking the same way ;)
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Seriously are you a vegan or vegetarian?
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Seriously are you a vegan or vegetarian?
Not at all. So now I'm a 'hypocrite', right? ::)
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Not at all. So now I'm a 'hypocrite', right? ::)
More of a dumbass.
Hope this helps.
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More of a dumbass.
Hope this helps.
^^
Simpleton of peace ::)
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http://www.sharkbookings.com/why-great-white-sharks-cannot-be-kept-in-captivity/
http://www.gadling.com/2011/03/27/killer-whale-devours-great-white-shark/
Killer whale higher on the food chain then a great white, many examples of this,ironically the whale is easier to train
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http://www.gadling.com/2011/03/27/killer-whale-devours-great-white-shark/
Killer whale higher on the food chain then a great white, many examples of this,ironically the whale is easier to train
Yep. Sperm whale, killer whale, great white, in that order.
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Former trainer John Hargrove