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Title: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 01, 2013, 04:02:56 PM
As legit as "obamacare" hahahahahaha!


President Obama issued an executive order Friday directing a government-wide effort to boost preparation in states and local communities for the impact of global warming.

The action orders federal agencies to work with states to build “resilience” against major storms and other weather extremes. For example, the president’s order directs that infrastructure projects like bridges and flood control take into consideration climate conditions of the future, which might require building structures larger or stronger — and likely at a higher price tag.

PHOTOS: President Obama's favorite footstool: The famous Resolute desk

“The impacts of climate change — including an increase in prolonged periods of excessively high temperatures, more heavy downpours, an increase in wildfires, more severe droughts, permafrost thawing, ocean acidification and sea-level rise — are already affecting communities, natural resources, ecosystems, economies and public health across the nation,” the presidential order said. “The federal government must build on recent progress and pursue new strategies to improve the nation’s preparedness and resilience.”

There’s no estimate of how much the additional planning will cost. Natural disasters including Superstorm Sandy cost the U.S. economy more than $100 billion in 2012, according to the administration.

The White House is also setting up a task force of state and local leaders to offer advice to the federal government, with several Democratic governors having agreed to serve and at least one Republican governor, from the U.S. territory of Guam.

Mr. Obama has a goal of reducing U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 17 percent by 2020, and the Environmental Protection Agency is working on rules that would impose tougher regulations on coal-burning power plants. But much of the president’s climate-change agenda has stalled in Congress, and the administration says the new order recognizes that global greenhouse gas emissions are still rising, making further damage from global warming inevitable.

At a speech at Georgetown University in June, Mr. Obama outlined executive actions he would take to require government and private industry to prepare for the effects of climate change.

“The question is not whether we need to act,” Mr. Obama said at the time. “The question is whether we will have the courage to act before it’s too late.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/1/obama-orders-government-prep-global-warming/#ixzz2jRD6DBih
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Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: LittleJ on November 01, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
Coach, how is the training coming?
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Teutonic Knight on November 01, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
I have nothing against Global WARning, too many skimpy dressed young pussies
on the beach & Manly corso.
Young pussy = the best medicine  :)
Penguins just need to grow wings & fly instead of swimming.
Polar bears should grow dark hair & GW issue is no more.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 01, 2013, 07:02:09 PM
As legit as "obamacare" hahahahahaha!


President Obama issued an executive order Friday directing a government-wide effort to boost preparation in states and local communities for the impact of global warming.

The action orders federal agencies to work with states to build “resilience” against major storms and other weather extremes. For example, the president’s order directs that infrastructure projects like bridges and flood control take into consideration climate conditions of the future, which might require building structures larger or stronger — and likely at a higher price tag.

PHOTOS: President Obama's favorite footstool: The famous Resolute desk

“The impacts of climate change — including an increase in prolonged periods of excessively high temperatures, more heavy downpours, an increase in wildfires, more severe droughts, permafrost thawing, ocean acidification and sea-level rise — are already affecting communities, natural resources, ecosystems, economies and public health across the nation,” the presidential order said. “The federal government must build on recent progress and pursue new strategies to improve the nation’s preparedness and resilience.”

There’s no estimate of how much the additional planning will cost. Natural disasters including Superstorm Sandy cost the U.S. economy more than $100 billion in 2012, according to the administration.

The White House is also setting up a task force of state and local leaders to offer advice to the federal government, with several Democratic governors having agreed to serve and at least one Republican governor, from the U.S. territory of Guam.

Mr. Obama has a goal of reducing U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 17 percent by 2020, and the Environmental Protection Agency is working on rules that would impose tougher regulations on coal-burning power plants. But much of the president’s climate-change agenda has stalled in Congress, and the administration says the new order recognizes that global greenhouse gas emissions are still rising, making further damage from global warming inevitable.

At a speech at Georgetown University in June, Mr. Obama outlined executive actions he would take to require government and private industry to prepare for the effects of climate change.

“The question is not whether we need to act,” Mr. Obama said at the time. “The question is whether we will have the courage to act before it’s too late.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/1/obama-orders-government-prep-global-warming/#ixzz2jRD6DBih
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter


People like you exist and it hurts the rest of us. The globe is warming, that's a fact, the numbers are quite clear. Or are you too stupid to understand your own talking points? whether it's man made is the argument.

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: davej1963 on November 01, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
 ^^^ Ouch!!!   :o :(
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Kazan on November 01, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
Cycles in solar activity, but hey you can't tax or make money off of that (cough Al Gore cough)
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Shockwave on November 01, 2013, 07:17:55 PM
Im shaking in my boots.

oh noos.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 01, 2013, 07:18:52 PM
People like you exist and it hurts the rest of us. The globe is warming, that's a fact, the numbers are quite clear. Or are you too stupid to understand your own talking points? whether it's man made is the argument.



Just like the numbers are quite clear for obamacare? Haha. Jesus, give it up.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Shockwave on November 01, 2013, 07:19:48 PM
Just like the numbers are quite clear for obamacare? Haha. Jesus, give it up.
hes just a canadian that drank the kool aid.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: calfzilla on November 01, 2013, 07:20:02 PM
People like you exist and it hurts the rest of us. The globe is warming, that's a fact, the numbers are quite clear. Or are you too stupid to understand your own talking points? whether it's man made is the argument.



Yes, there is no doubt the earth is warming. Only question is if its related to humans o just normal earthly cycle.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: jude2 on November 01, 2013, 07:24:34 PM
Wow he must have set that heckler in the audience when he was talking about the messed up website for health care. She yelled what about global warming and he answered her, saying wrong rally, we will get to that.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 01, 2013, 07:26:50 PM
Yes, there is no doubt the earth is warming. Only question is if its related to humans o just normal earthly cycle.
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Neither, its farting cows. (No shit, this was a theory the libs came up with, haha)
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Kazan on November 01, 2013, 07:30:03 PM
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Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 01, 2013, 07:40:25 PM
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LOL ;D
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SF1900 on November 01, 2013, 08:08:37 PM
Coach, as stated, the earth IS warming. Again, as stated, scientists are just unsure if its due to normal cycles or man made.

I do not understand why republicans hate two very important things:

1) Science

2) Environment

Republicans are very anti-science and anti-environment.

I guess they would rather read the bible.  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Shockwave on November 01, 2013, 08:13:12 PM
Coach, as stated, the earth IS warming. Again, as stated, scientists are just unsure if its due to normal cycles or man made.

I do not understand why republicans hate two very important things:

1) Science

2) Environment

Republicans are very anti-science and anti-environment.

I guess they would rather read the bible.  :-\ :-\ :-\
evem though im not really a republican, I domt really give a shit about the environment. Shit isnt gonna change enough to matter,  so literally I don't give a fuck. Not to mention they are really up in the air whether its humans or nature causing the change anyway. China doesnt give a fuck, no one besides spme euro countries and us give a shit, and no 3rd world country is going to care.

Its more feel good bullshit for bleeding heart fgts to get up in arms about, to occupy themselves or to take their mind of their shitty lives.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Knooger on November 01, 2013, 08:15:05 PM
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I think this poster is fucked up.

1,000 Cow farts should be a kilofart
1,000,000 should be a megafart
1,000,000,000 should be a gigafart.

I could be wrong, but I think this is more correct.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: 240 is Back on November 01, 2013, 08:15:58 PM
all the wimpy republicans on getbig that refuse to use the word 'impeachment' because "we like him in office, it'll really help us in 2014 elections!!"

What you neglect to think about is the power of the exec order.  You think they're bad now?  Wait til he's a lame duck prez and maybe even has dem house... he'll be issuing these bullshit executive orders on everything from amnesty to global warming to guns and anything else.  And everyone who didn't want to dream of the word 'impeach' will have to accept blame for letting it happen.  We saw just how impotent a repub congress was to stop obamacare once SCOTUS embraced it and it became policy.  "Yay, scott brown #41, we win!" and "obamacare is dead" were both shortlived.  
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Knooger on November 01, 2013, 08:16:04 PM
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Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SF1900 on November 01, 2013, 08:19:14 PM
evem though im not really a republican, I domt really give a shit about the environment. Shit isnt gonna change enough to matter,  so literally I don't give a fuck. Not to mention they are really up in the air whether its humans or nature causing the change anyway. China doesnt give a fuck, no one besides spme euro countries and us give a shit, and no 3rd world country is going to care.

Its more feel good bullshit for bleeding heart fgts to get up in arms about, to occupy themselves or to take their mind of their shitty lives.


I am not saying you have to be a bleeding heart, but I am sure you randomly dont litter or purposely try to destroy the environment. Everyone has their own social causes which stirs something up in them. The environment is not one of the social issues that is on my list, however I respect those that do want to protect the environment. Not only do we have to live in it, but our kids and their kids have to as well etc. Its incumbent upon us to at least respect the environment. I am not saying you have to be a tree hugger. But it doesnt seem like republicans even respect the environment  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: galeniko on November 01, 2013, 08:21:36 PM
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pic says deca down on left side.bbuilding related
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Shockwave on November 01, 2013, 08:24:14 PM


I am not saying you have to be a bleeding heart, but I am sure you randomly dont litter or purposely try to destroy the environment. Everyone has their own social causes which stirs something up in them. The environment is not one of the social issues that is on my list, however I respect those that do want to protect the environment. Not only do we have to live in it, but our kids and their kids have to as well etc. Its incumbent upon us to at least respect the environment. I am not saying you have to be a tree hugger. But it doesnt seem like republicans even respect the environment  :-\ :-\
I dont go out of my way to harm it in general.... no, but my race cars might have. As long as they don't try and touch my internal combustion engine, Im fine. But seeing as thats generaly eco-fgts first target, I am inclined to tell them to eat shit and die.

 ;D
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 01, 2013, 08:26:30 PM
Coach, as stated, the earth IS warming. Again, as stated, scientists are just unsure if its due to normal cycles or man made.

I do not understand why republicans hate two very important things:

1) Science

2) Environment

Republicans are very anti-science and anti-environment.

I guess they would rather read the bible.  :-\ :-\ :-\

Far from anti-science. The left wants to quote science all the time without applying commonsense. If the earth warmed up 3 degrees in the last 100 year's, its not going to affectbthe environment one way or the other. It's nothing more than a political roos that's been proven (by science) to be total Bullshit.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SF1900 on November 01, 2013, 08:37:03 PM
Far from anti-science. The left wants to quote science all the time without applying commonsense. If the earth warmed up 3 degrees in the last 100 year's, its not going to affectbthe environment one way or the other. It's nothing more than a political roos that's been proven (by science) to be total Bullshit.


In the same way that republicans think theory of evolution is a ruse, even though the majority of scientists believe in it.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Shockwave on November 01, 2013, 08:37:55 PM
Far from anti-science. The left wants to quote science all the time without applying commonsense. If the earth warmed up 3 degrees in the last 100 year's, its not going to affectbthe environment one way or the other. It's nothing more than a political roos that's been proven (by science) to be total Bullshit.
Its "ruse" Joe.

"Ruse".

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SF1900 on November 01, 2013, 08:40:44 PM
Its "ruse" Joe.

"Ruse".




See, this is what happens when youre anti-science and anti-education like republicans lol (sorry coach, just had to :) )

Republicans want to keep the people stupid, and tell them they should only read the bible. Its better to keep the people obedient to the bible and keep their knowledge limited.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: chaos on November 01, 2013, 08:42:25 PM


In the same way that republicans think theory of evolution is a ruse, even though the majority of scientists believe in it.
Nice edit, fuckface. ;)
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 01, 2013, 08:45:29 PM


In the same way that republicans think theory of evolution is a ruse, even though the majority of scientists believe in it.

You mean the majority of atheist scientists who refuse to believebwhats been put in front of them? Or the former atheist scientists that have research and can only come to the conclusion that there is a creator because there are too many things that cannot be explained by science or is it that atheist science changes its position all the time and can't come to a conclusion?
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SF1900 on November 01, 2013, 08:45:53 PM
Nice edit, fuckface. ;)


LAX got to me, cant focus!
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SF1900 on November 01, 2013, 08:47:22 PM
You mean the majority of atheist scientists who refuse to believebwhats been put in front of them? Or the former atheist scientists that have research and can only come to the conclusion that there is a creator because there are too many things that cannot be explained by science or is it that atheist science changes its position all the time and can't come to a conclusion?


No, the majority of scientists believe in evolution. The fact that things evolve is a FACT!! Hell, a lot of christian scientists even believe in evolution.

And just because something cannot be explained by science, it does not mean God did it! God of the Gap arguments. Just because science cannot explain something it doesnt mean we wont in the future. Again, a lack of scientific knowledge does not indicate a creator did it. That is not sufficient evidence.

Shit, you know absolutely nothing about science. Why cant they come to a conclusion? BECAUSE SCIENCE IS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND CHANGING! ITS CALLED PROGRESS!
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Wolfox on November 01, 2013, 08:47:44 PM
Gotta stock up on more ammo. Need a job first tho.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 01, 2013, 09:28:38 PM


See, this is what happens when youre anti-science and anti-education like republicans lol (sorry coach, just had to :) )

Republicans want to keep the people stupid, and tell them they should only read the bible. Its better to keep the people obedient to the bible and keep their knowledge limited.

Since when does education buy you commonsense? Oh wait, GW Harvard and Yale (he can also prove he attended) Obama allegedly Harvard and Columbia ( even though no one can remember him). lol
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 02, 2013, 06:41:38 AM
Hell he cant even get a Health Care website to work, how is he going to prepare for this?
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 02, 2013, 06:50:46 AM
Hell he cant even get a Health Care website to work, how is he going to prepare for this?

Only spent 600 million to get 6 people to sign up.  :-\
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: chaos on November 02, 2013, 07:05:44 AM
Only spent 600 million to get 6 people to sign up.  :-\
240 is back would have saved the taxpayers a huge chunk of change.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 02, 2013, 08:00:52 AM
You mean the majority of atheist scientists who refuse to believebwhats been put in front of them? Or the former atheist scientists that have research and can only come to the conclusion that there is a creator because there are too many things that cannot be explained by science or is it that atheist science changes its position all the time and can't come to a conclusion?

Your god is a ever receding gap, quite impressive that he hides in the unknown, until we know it that is. I mean the tides come in the tides go out right?

Look at your sentence it's a run on fucking mess of thoughts.

What's been put in front of us Joe? Here is a miracle of creation from your god, why won't we just bow down to his mercy and love?

(http://sonoworld.com/images/FetusItemImages/article-images/Central_nervous_system/alob_holoprsen_montilla/ima6.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Mr. MB on November 02, 2013, 08:48:51 AM
Sounds like an afternoon at Brown University in here. I'm a Libertarian, an agnostic Libertarian. The knee jerk anti God anti Christian anti Republican reactions in here are interesting.

I like to give credit to ALL (incl. whackos on the left and the right) that respect our planet, which is a 15 year cool down BTW. Here are some achievments/acts/laws made by those hated Christian Republicans over the years:
the EPA
Montreal Protocol
4 new pristine National Monuments in the Pacific out near the Marshalls. 2.5 million acres.
the National Park System
the National Forest System
National Game Preserves
Wilderness Act
CAFE
The Arctic Refuge……to name a few.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 02, 2013, 09:03:09 AM
Sounds like an afternoon at Brown University in here. I'm a Libertarian, an agnostic Libertarian. The knee jerk anti God anti Christian anti Republican reactions in here are interesting.

I like to give credit to ALL (incl. whackos on the left and the right) that respect our planet, which is a 15 year cool down BTW. Here are some achievments/acts/laws made by those hated Christian Republicans over the years:
the EPA
Montreal Protocol
4 new pristine National Monuments in the Pacific out near the Marshalls. 2.5 million acres.
the National Park System
the National Forest System
National Game Preserves
Wilderness Act
CAFE
The Arctic Refuge……to name a few.


Please show me how the planet is in a 15 year cool? this data would turn climatology on it's head.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 02, 2013, 09:16:51 AM
Far from anti-science. The left wants to quote science all the time without applying commonsense. If the earth warmed up 3 degrees in the last 100 year's, its not going to affectbthe environment one way or the other. It's nothing more than a political roos that's been proven (by science) to be total Bullshit.

Common sense doesn't matter in science. If the data shows something you follow the facts. quantum mechanics makes no sense at all yet it's a fact. Listen Joey, you are stupid and you have no idea what you are talking about.

So on one hand you bash science but then accept science (dis-proving GW) when it suits you? in this case the data for your position is better then the data against right? Ever think that you might be wrong?

If you body temperature changed by 3 degrees no problem right? it's not going to effect (affect is regarding emotion moron) you, cus 3 is a small number.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Mr. MB on November 02, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-cooling-is-here

One of countless articles emerging.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Shockwave on November 02, 2013, 09:37:14 AM
Common sense doesn't matter in science. If the data shows something you follow the facts. quantum mechanics makes no sense at all yet it's a fact. Listen Joey, you are stupid and you have no idea what you are talking about.

So on one hand you bash science but then accept science (dis-proving GW) when it suits you? in this case the data for your position is better then the data against right? Ever think that you might be wrong?

If you body temperature changed by 3 degrees no problem right? it's not going to effect (affect is regarding emotion moron) you, cus 3 is a small number.
I've seen a few articles on it... it was also one of the reasons that US politicians stopped freaking out about "global warming" and changed their freakout rants to "climate change".

It may be one in the same to you, but I guarantee you to politicians it's a very distinct difference.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 02, 2013, 10:22:33 AM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-cooling-is-here

One of countless articles emerging.

An article opinion piece?
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Mr. MB on November 02, 2013, 10:26:20 AM
Climate change has been with us since the formation of earth itself. I love to read….NOT FOLLOW CORPORATE PROPAGANDA OR FEAR MONGERS LIKE AL GORE LIKE A SHEEP. Then, I can form my own opinion. NASA is a good source. Before man's first outdoor BBQ the climate has seen the impact of CO2 and other gases effecting earths temp.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/antarctica20120617.html

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: JBGRAY on November 02, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
The moronic statements from both sides of the debate are astounding.

"I don't care much for the environment."
"A 3 degree temperature won't change anything."  Yes...it will.  Greatly.
Republicans and conservatives in general make up most if not all of the dying demographic and decreasing institutional participation.....older whites, the church, rural populations, and the military.  Conservatism is nothing more than a wall......throw stuff against it and eventually it will fall.  Progressivism ALWAYS defeats conservatism.

Then, we have our $120 an hour Canadian Physicist telling the rest of us proles how to go about in living our lives from his insulated Ivory Tower surrounded by a ring of armed guards.  Wonder how much impact on the environment his big ass house and European sedans has.  It is people of his ilk and means that spread the misinformation of how the Republicans are only in it for the wealthy........how can that possibly be, when it is liberals and Democrats that make up the great MAJORITY of the 1%?  And vast swathes of people actually believe Democrats are there for the "little guy." The Repubs/Tea Partiers/Conservatives/Libertarians may be many things, but they nowhere approach the sick evil the Progressive Left spews out.

The debate seems to circle around whether our climate is warming(the general consensus says it is) and whether it is man-made.  Meanwhile, vast tracts of rain forests are being clearcut, oceans are being overfished, fresh water supplies are being depleted and polluted, air quality in many areas is atrocious, soil erosion is increasing, strip mining, and a host of other human activities that threaten habitats.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 02, 2013, 11:23:28 AM
Anyone that believes the powers that be are sincerely concerned about the environment are naive. Global Warming is nothing more than a power grab. Just like Obamacare, the government doesn't care if you live or die or suffer, that's not what legislation like the ACA is about, just how they sell it to you idiots.

Conveniently (not for us), they can only save us from climate change if we keep handing over our rights.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 02, 2013, 11:32:37 AM
I want to save the environment more than anyone. As long as zero proof exists that man kind has any impact on what's most likely part of a natural cycle, this whole issue is a farce.


The scientific community also gave us the global cooling scare in the 1980's / 90's, lol

Before we do anything drastic, (or allow our imbecile President too), we should see proof.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: liberty on November 02, 2013, 11:39:40 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: liberty on November 02, 2013, 11:41:03 AM
Damn keyboard   >:(

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 02, 2013, 11:52:06 AM
Damn keyboard   >:(




All we have to do to achieve all that is give up our property rights... Sounds fair enough
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: HockeyFightFan on November 02, 2013, 12:01:44 PM
Coach, as stated, the earth IS warming. Again, as stated, scientists are just unsure if its due to normal cycles or man made.

I do not understand why republicans hate two very important things:

1) Science

2) Environment

Republicans are very anti-science and anti-environment.

I guess they would rather read the bible.  :-\ :-\ :-\

Liberal sheep ready to line up to pay a "Carbon Tax".

Idiots.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Ronnie Rep on November 02, 2013, 12:04:44 PM


See, this is what happens when youre anti-science and anti-education like republicans lol (sorry coach, just had to :) )

Republicans want to keep the people stupid, and tell them they should only read the bible. Its better to keep the people obedient to the bible and keep their knowledge limited.
This!
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 02, 2013, 12:11:01 PM
Climate change has been with us since the formation of earth itself. I love to read….NOT FOLLOW CORPORATE PROPAGANDA OR FEAR MONGERS LIKE AL GORE LIKE A SHEEP. Then, I can form my own opinion. NASA is a good source. Before man's first outdoor BBQ the climate has seen the impact of CO2 and other gases effecting earths temp.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/antarctica20120617.html



I don't get your point, no one debates anything of what you said, the globe is heating up, that is a fact. Carbon emissions are also at record highs because you know, having a fire in a cave isn't the same and drilling for oil or the millions of cars on the road since then.

Your opinion is wrong, and contrary to the facts, the research you posted was an article written by one man, no primary research. Nasa also disagrees with you so you citing them is ironic.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: HockeyFightFan on November 02, 2013, 12:11:54 PM
This!

Bullshit, look at the Democrat constituency.....unemplo yed, low IQ, blacks, Mexicans, illegals, and pseudo-intellectual college kids still suckling on moms teat.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Kazan on November 02, 2013, 01:01:41 PM
I don't get your point, no one debates anything of what you said, the globe is heating up, that is a fact. Carbon emissions are also at record highs because you know, having a fire in a cave isn't the same and drilling for oil or the millions of cars on the road since then.

Your opinion is wrong, and contrary to the facts, the research you posted was an article written by one man, no primary research. Nasa also disagrees with you so you citing them is ironic.

You guys just aren't happy unless there is some impending disaster ( caused by man  ::) ) that of course requires handing over freedoms or getting taxed into poverty. Go buy some carbon credits, make Al gore richer, ignorant bastards..........
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: 240 is Back on November 24, 2015, 09:54:53 PM
Wait til he's a lame duck prez and maybe even has dem house... he'll be issuing these bullshit executive orders on everything from amnesty to global warming to guns and anything else.

As predicted... the last 2 years will be a disgusting shitstorm of executive orders.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 24, 2015, 10:02:22 PM
240 - the king of resurrecting threads from 2 + years ago.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 25, 2015, 05:07:25 AM
You guys just aren't happy unless there is some impending disaster ( caused by man  ::) ) that of course requires handing over freedoms or getting taxed into poverty. Go buy some carbon credits, make Al gore richer, ignorant bastards..........

Who said anything about carbon tax etc. I am saying in a basic science sense, there is an issue, we know this. It will worsen, the US military has begun preparing for this, it will cause far more economic hardships then any tax you could think of, the military states this.

You are ignorant, you are conflating facts (the globe is having a hard time due to simultaneously removing carbon sinks (trees) and emitting more carbon ) with economic policies, al gore etc. forget all that, I have never seen al gore speak to be honest, I have never seen his movie or care about anything he has to say. The problem will be worse, we need to prepare and have foresight.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on November 25, 2015, 05:31:32 AM
Because there hasn't been enough data on weather changes in the last 400 million years there's no proof man is making any impact. You can argue either way but there's clearly been very cold temperatures during the Ice Age where some said Humans were maybe down to a population of 150-200 so therefore it is logical there were some periods of very high temperatures. It is very safe to say we are in the middle of it rising right now. However you need more time to really determine this. However why wait when you can tax the shit out of it now and scare the fuck out of everyone in order to buy votes and use it at times to get away from issues which hurt your party.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: _bruce_ on November 25, 2015, 05:38:37 AM
Pollution is a serious issue but there is no reason to further diminish western countries anymore because of the dubious "global warming" issue.
I do not need a U.N. directed agenda(go visit their website) to know that poisoning ourselves is not a viable solution.
A solution might be becoming more independent as a people and nation and kick global tyrants and their dubious products out. Minimize chemicals and search for alternatives which have been around since the dawn of time.
Unfortunately all of this goes against the current of globalization, peace and interdependency which has been artificially injected all over the globe.

Be careful what you wish for.

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 25, 2015, 07:13:37 AM
Because there hasn't been enough data on weather changes in the last 400 million years there's no proof man is making any impact. You can argue either way but there's clearly been very cold temperatures during the Ice Age where some said Humans were maybe down to a population of 150-200 so therefore it is logical there were some periods of very high temperatures. It is very safe to say we are in the middle of it rising right now. However you need more time to really determine this. However why wait when you can tax the shit out of it now and scare the fuck out of everyone in order to buy votes and use it at times to get away from issues which hurt your party.

Non-sense, we have very accurate historically data, trees, ice cores etc. Like it's a fact, you are wrong, there has never ever been a rise in co2 this rapidly, using the ice cores of millions of years we can see that. We know our orbit, wobble, distance to the sun, solar output, volcanic activity, ocean currents, glacier density etc. it's not up for debate. You don't need more time, co2 has never risen this fast, it is lightening fast, we are seeing the 6th extinction level event in Earth's history, species cannot adapt  this fast, co2 might be fine, but the rapid increase is crushing ecosystems right now, hence a MASS EXTINCTION.

We know the cycles of the earth, venus and mars also provide data on atmospheres, Venus is currently in run away greenhouse effect, due to methane, this can happen here.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on November 25, 2015, 10:58:24 AM
Coach is Black, how much are your Obamacare premiums?
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 25, 2015, 08:44:38 PM
evem though im not really a republican, I domt really give a shit about the environment. Shit isnt gonna change enough to matter,  so literally I don't give a fuck. Not to mention they are really up in the air whether its humans or nature causing the change anyway. China doesnt give a fuck, no one besides spme euro countries and us give a shit, and no 3rd world country is going to care.

Its more feel good bullshit for bleeding heart fgts to get up in arms about, to occupy themselves or to take their mind of their shitty lives.




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Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: 240 is Back on November 25, 2015, 08:54:17 PM
240 - the king of resurrecting threads from 2 + years ago.

you asked me to show you where i said obama would be crazy reckless with executive orders of the liberal kind during his last 2 years in office, so I showed you.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 25, 2015, 09:08:01 PM
For a long time now I've not understood the whole global warming push...I mean pollution is bad and you have to bring people into a standard of compliance to be a first world country - I get that. But to have some of these people in high places say it is the #1 threat to us seems a little extreme.

If you do a little reading into the NWO stuff....Georgia Guidestones and Agenda 21....they cite the world population needs to be a fraction of what it is now in order to maintain harmony with nature. The Georgia Guidestones say 500 million. Think about that. What, 8 billion currently down to 500 million? How?

It's going to take a huge change in attitude to bring that about...including war, a mass die off or accepting that people need to be sterilized, etc.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 27, 2015, 03:28:44 AM
For a long time now I've not understood the whole global warming push...I mean pollution is bad and you have to bring people into a standard of compliance to be a first world country - I get that. But to have some of these people in high places say it is the #1 threat to us seems a little extreme.

If you do a little reading into the NWO stuff....Georgia Guidestones and Agenda 21....they cite the world population needs to be a fraction of what it is now in order to maintain harmony with nature. The Georgia Guidestones say 500 million. Think about that. What, 8 billion currently down to 500 million? How?

It's going to take a huge change in attitude to bring that about...including war, a mass die off or accepting that people need to be sterilized, etc.

Think about it, the georgia guidestones, you know those stones that world's elite use as a marker. We know they follow the guidestone closely, it's a guidestone for fucks sake.

I love the it won't change enough to matter, lmao. Intellectual laziness at it's finest, it's already causing major problems (we are in the 6th mass extinction, does this not register?) and will be the single biggest threat we all face. It's not pollution, you don't even know the basics of what you are talking about and mention these stones as if anyone really gives a fuck about them, lol.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 27, 2015, 10:18:17 AM
Think about it, the georgia guidestones, you know those stones that world's elite use as a marker. We know they follow the guidestone closely, it's a guidestone for fucks sake.

I love the it won't change enough to matter, lmao. Intellectual laziness at it's finest, it's already causing major problems (we are in the 6th mass extinction, does this not register?) and will be the single biggest threat we all face. It's not pollution, you don't even know the basics of what you are talking about and mention these stones as if anyone really gives a fuck about them, lol.



Eugenics is an option throughout history when people in power have it as an option. You are an assumptive fuckface by the way. This is only one opinion I have on this, that I expressed. While most people on here are not able to think past one concept, I am. The difference between you and I is that I do not assume all people are less intelligent than I am to make myself feel better about my own beliefs.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 27, 2015, 11:08:54 AM


Eugenics is an option throughout history when people in power have it as an option. You are an assumptive fuckface by the way. This is only one opinion I have on this, that I expressed. While most people on here are not able to think past one concept, I am. The difference between you and I is that I do not assume all people are less intelligent than I am to make myself feel better about my own beliefs.

I know my iq you are not as smart as me, I am more intelligent then you, I would bet my life on it. The fact that the guidestones indicate to stay below 500k, while we are sitting at 7.5 billion, shows how stupid it is. You might as well go to the beach and pick pick up a rock as it has about as much sway in the minds of people.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 27, 2015, 08:02:12 PM
I know my iq you are not as smart as me, I am more intelligent then you, I would bet my life on it. The fact that the guidestones indicate to stay below 500k, while we are sitting at 7.5 billion, shows how stupid it is. You might as well go to the beach and pick pick up a rock as it has about as much sway in the minds of people.


It's "I am more intelligent THAN you" there genius boy, haha.

I've taken a few IQ tests in my time. I've never bragged about being genius level. The people that do that are all the same - book smart and that's about it. In fact I'm pretty sure the guy with the Masters that served me sushi the other day thought he was smarter than I am also.

You are at an almost autistic level here of missing the entire point that I was referencing something conceptually for the sake of conversation, not just repeating what I personally felt was dogma. I explained that but you totally missed it. Maybe my way of thinking is too abstract and it didn't fit the "necrosis vs. all Getbig climate change deniers" championing you were on about in this thread.




Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 28, 2015, 05:30:47 AM

It's "I am more intelligent THAN you" there genius boy, haha.

My grammar, spelling is terrible, always has been, I rush and am lazy. I use your and you're, then, where were, I keyboard and don't worry to much about it, if it hinders communication I can take my time, but nah

I've taken a few IQ tests in my time. I've never bragged about being genius level. The people that do that are all the same - book smart and that's about it. In fact I'm pretty sure the guy with the Masters that served me sushi the other day thought he was smarter than I am also.

Where was I bragging? listen, the art to a good troll is to claim you are right, not attack others, people hate that. Being smug, dismissive and arrogant is also helpful. You have never taken an IQ test as you would not take test (s) anyone who is gifted would have been assessed by the WISC, any other IQ tests you did were for fun or written by idiots. Get off the IQ thing, not sure who's gimmick you are but I didn't mean to hurt you personally, why so srs?

You are at an almost autistic level here of missing the entire point that I was referencing something conceptually for the sake of conversation, not just repeating what I personally felt was dogma. I explained that but you totally missed it. Maybe my way of thinking is too abstract and it didn't fit the "necrosis vs. all Getbig climate change deniers" championing you were on about in this thread.

I got your point, it is a metaphorically yet concrete example of the psyche those in power could/would have, I got your point. It wasn't some esoteric fucking mind blowing concept. Relax genius. Now, it's clear I understand your point, I paraphrased it, could you do that with my position? I doubt it, you aren't listening to me, just upset about my initial post in which I took the piss out of you. My point is that the very fact we are currently 1400% above it's human population prescriptions indicates they guide nothing, they are senseless inscribing's taken from ancient civilizations with no concept of the WISC or high IQ people like me. I don't accept anything, anyone says, always start from first principles. Are the prescriptions even good? I disagree with maintaining a low population, it's stupid. Humanity has the best chance of survival by being multi-planet, which will happen, how useful would maintaining a population be? how much effort etc, who is to control this? lol, it's stupid stupid stupid on every level, i am sorry, I can't not point out the truth, it's like a disease, it's like my brain does these things inside it that makes me have head movies that analyze things.






Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Voice of Doom on November 28, 2015, 06:13:55 AM
So its global warming...except NASA says its global cooling: http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/622043/GLOBAL-WARMING-NASA-Antarctic-COOLING-six-years-Arctic-north-pole-climate-change

weird.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: chaos on November 28, 2015, 08:07:28 AM
240 - the king of resurrecting threads from 2 + years ago.
240 is the king of making statements and never picking a side. He floats all over the political spectrum dropping what ifs and maybes, pointing out screw ups and do goods on both sides, he's like a neutral political reporter. Kind of unique in that way, yet annoying in the fact that he will never directly endorse a runner no matter how often he's asked.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: King Shizzo on November 28, 2015, 08:11:06 AM
240 is the king of making statements and never picking a side. He floats all over the political spectrum dropping what ifs and maybes, pointing out screw ups and do goods on both sides, he's like a neutral political reporter. Kind of unique in that way, yet annoying in the fact that he will never directly endorse a runner no matter how often he's asked.

No, annoying in that he eventually inserts politics into every thread he posts in. He needs to be warned.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: chaos on November 28, 2015, 08:12:55 AM
No, annoying in that he eventually inserts politics into every thread he posts in. He needs to be warned.
Are you filing a formal complaint?
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: King Shizzo on November 28, 2015, 08:14:42 AM
Are you filing a formal complaint?
No. I just thought it would be obvious at this point.

I just give opinions and suggestions. It is your job to decide on whether it needs to be addressed.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: 240 is Back on November 28, 2015, 08:23:45 AM
No, annoying in that he eventually inserts politics into every thread he posts in. He needs to be warned.

i usually wait until someone else does it. 

somehow, coach added a 'michelle obama visited terrorists' into a thread about the colorado shooter.

so i realized it was becoming a political thread.  there were a few others, but usually i take my political intro cue from coach.  he wanted to invent 'will michelle obama visit terrorist, like she did according to saudi conspiracy theorists?', which is rather unreasonable.  however, IMHO, trump and other repubs being SILENT on a shooting/hostate shooting on US soil, while they were screaming and ranting when it was frenchies being shot... THAT is relevant.  IMO, they don't want to piss off the sick religious base that actually grins a little when abortion doctors get shot.  no other explaination for silence as americans are murdered by religious zealots, but outraged when frenchmen are murdered by religious zealots.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: King Shizzo on November 28, 2015, 08:27:18 AM
i usually wait until someone else does it. 

somehow, coach added a 'michelle obama visited terrorists' into a thread about the colorado shooter.

so i realized it was becoming a political thread.  there were a few others, but usually i take my political intro cue from coach.  he wanted to invent 'will michelle obama visit terrorist, like she did according to saudi conspiracy theorists?', which is rather unreasonable.  however, IMHO, trump and other repubs being SILENT on a shooting/hostate shooting on US soil, while they were screaming and ranting when it was frenchies being shot... THAT is relevant.  IMO, they don't want to piss off the sick religious base that actually grins a little when abortion doctors get shot.  no other explaination for silence as americans are murdered by religious zealots, but outraged when frenchmen are murdered by religious zealots.
Explanatory meltdown.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on November 28, 2015, 08:32:17 AM
So its global warming...except NASA says its global cooling: http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/622043/GLOBAL-WARMING-NASA-Antarctic-COOLING-six-years-Arctic-north-pole-climate-change

weird.

The site posts articles with titles like " global warming is fake!". I do find it funny that people use shit like this, thinking it is proving their point, when in fact it is the exact opposite. Tell me, is there a crucial difference between the artic and antarctic, that could explain this? is there a major fucking difference?

If it's taking you a while to come up with this crucial difference you likely are not all that informed.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Nails on September 07, 2017, 12:33:47 PM
Global Warming,  Right coach ?  ::)

can't wait for first ever category 6 hurricane in the new couple years to emerge from the warming tropical waters
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Tennisballz on September 07, 2017, 01:14:12 PM
The globe IS warming, this isn't an argument.  The debate is whether it's man made or not.  I read that over 50% of green house gasses come from animal agriculture.  Perhaps concerned bodybuilders should go vegan.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: GigantorX on September 07, 2017, 04:18:56 PM
Global Warming,  Right coach ?  ::)

can't wait for first ever category 6 hurricane in the new couple years to emerge from the warming tropical waters

It's hurricane season.

Is "global warming" also responsible for years of below average hurricane seasons?

Has there never been a powerful hurricane before, or something?
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Nails on September 07, 2017, 04:21:42 PM
No, this is the first ever cat5 at this strength ever recorded

its about the size of texas


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It's hurricane season.

Is "global warming" also responsible for years of below average hurricane seasons?

Has there never been a powerful hurricane before, or something?
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Nails on September 07, 2017, 04:26:00 PM
Here is Andrew which fucked all kinds of shit up in florida years ago  Vs. Irma


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Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Nails on September 07, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
Some pics of Florida after little Andrew

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Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: robcguns on September 07, 2017, 04:30:36 PM


I am not saying you have to be a bleeding heart, but I am sure you randomly dont litter or purposely try to destroy the environment. Everyone has their own social causes which stirs something up in them. The environment is not one of the social issues that is on my list, however I respect those that do want to protect the environment. Not only do we have to live in it, but our kids and their kids have to as well etc. Its incumbent upon us to at least respect the environment. I am not saying you have to be a tree hugger. But it doesnt seem like republicans even respect the environment  :-\ :-\

I litter daily,everything goes out the window.I see it as a way for the highway dept to earn their fucking pay,god damn lazy fucks.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: visualizeperfection on September 07, 2017, 04:36:46 PM
I litter daily,everything goes out the window.I see it as a way for the highway dept to earn their fucking pay,god damn lazy fucks.

Very black of you.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on September 07, 2017, 04:39:46 PM
It's hurricane season.

Is "global warming" also responsible for years of below average hurricane seasons?

Has there never been a powerful hurricane before, or something?

Dog the earth is in trouble, co2 has never risen this fast before, the earth can't keep up.

Global warming predicts more storms and stronger storms, more heat equals more energy to enhance storm strength. Anyone who doubts the impact we are having on the climate is retarded, the science is settled, it's us and it's accelerating.

This is why Obama said what he said, the country will be bankrupt trying to rebuild and move all these people. Food shortages from changing climates and growth alterations will soon begin.

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 07, 2017, 04:47:33 PM
The globe IS warming, this isn't an argument.  The debate is whether it's man made or not.  I read that over 50% of green house gasses come from animal agriculture.  Perhaps concerned bodybuilders should go vegan.

They don't even use the term global warming anymore, because it's not supported by fact. Over 30,000 scientists dispute it.  Instead they've been using the term "climate change" as a means to convince the masses that they need to be taxed more.  Would we not expect the weather to have cyclical patterns?  This was occuring long before the first Model T.  CO2 is not the issue.  There are other things going on.





Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Board_SHERIF on September 07, 2017, 05:22:49 PM
Dog the earth is in trouble, co2 has never risen this fast before, the earth can't keep up.

Global warming predicts more storms and stronger storms, more heat equals more energy to enhance storm strength. Anyone who doubts the impact we are having on the climate is retarded, the science is settled, it's us and it's accelerating.

This is why Obama said what he said, the country will be bankrupt trying to rebuild and move all these people. Food shortages from changing climates and growth alterations will soon begin.



So why didn't Hussein do anything about it?
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: jude2 on September 07, 2017, 08:10:01 PM
It's hurricane season.

Is "global warming" also responsible for years of below average hurricane seasons?

Has there never been a powerful hurricane before, or something?
Very good points.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Tennisballz on September 07, 2017, 09:26:09 PM
They don't even use the term global warming anymore, because it's not supported by fact. Over 30,000 scientists dispute it.  Instead they've been using the term "climate change" as a means to convince the masses that they need to be taxed more.  Would we not expect the weather to have cyclical patterns?  This was occuring long before the first Model T.  CO2 is not the issue.  There are other things going on.






I agree that the earth probably has cycles of warming and cooling.  Even if it's man made there's not much the average joe can do anyways.  I suppose try not to dump oil down the drain or ride a bike when possible instead of driving.  But realistically society has been set up for us to be completely dependent on fossil fuels.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2017, 03:49:26 AM
So why didn't Hussein do anything about it?

who cares about obama, jesus, get a grip people are being effected by it and it will get worse.

Wake up, no one who has a brain cares about obama, trump etc
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2017, 08:51:37 AM
Global Warming,  Right coach ?  ::)

can't wait for first ever category 6 hurricane in the new couple years to emerge from the warming tropical waters

Make no mistake, the money grabbing leftists love disasters like this and would LOVE to make these hurricanes about "Global Warming" so they can say "I told ya so" but since they're wrong about just about everything 99.5% of the time and tend to make shit up, they're actually going to politicize the shit out this and pretend they actually care what happens to people.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2017, 02:24:33 PM
Make no mistake, the money grabbing leftists love disasters like this and would LOVE to make these hurricanes about "Global Warming" so they can say "I told ya so" but since they're wrong about just about everything 99.5% of the time and tend to make shit up, they're actually going to politicize the shit out this and pretend they actually care what happens to people.

Is it possible that global warming more specifically climate change as climate is more specific (the made the name more accurate, not less, points towards truth-ability) than global and change points out more than just warming, is real but people have jumped on the ship for profit?

Try not to take this as an attack but does it not seem like all the worlds science agencies would agree on a hoax? we are witnessing it in real time, the glaciers, the storms, the record heat recordings. Seriously this is where you live

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Slapper on September 08, 2017, 08:26:39 PM
A weather-savvy person will tell you that weather forecasts beyond the 3-day window are a waste of time. Yet, weather people aimlessly provide viewers/readers with 10-day forecasts. No one can predict Irma's exact path until a day out... even now, the forecasts show it's going to steer a little to the west of the FL peninsula (not exactly over Miami).

In essence, knowing how LITTLE is REALLY known about future weather forecasts, how little we understand the weather that is staring us in the face... why do scientists need to resort to asking people to make leaps of faith in their assessments of human's impact on the climate (the exact leaps of faith scientists ridicule religious folks for when trying to explain the existence of God). I tell you why: Because they KNOW they haven't a leg to stand on. They've lied for so long that it's impossible for them to make their true point, namely that global warming is real, but that humans may not have anything to do with it at all.

I'm not a scientist nor a meteorologist but... if the overwhelming evidence shows periods or warming and cooling taking place multiple times in past samples... why are we even discussing the fact that Little Jimmy's farts are causing Irma? Why?

Trilobite (marine) fossils from the were found atop Everest, which is over 29,000 feet... this is well before any human or any monkey walked on the face of the planet... What makes us think that we, an existential bag of farts that will eventually be phased out like many other species, have this grandiose effect on our climate?

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on September 09, 2017, 06:02:24 AM
A weather-savvy person will tell you that weather forecasts beyond the 3-day window are a waste of time. Yet, weather people aimlessly provide viewers/readers with 10-day forecasts. No one can predict Irma's exact path until a day out... even now, the forecasts show it's going to steer a little to the west of the FL peninsula (not exactly over Miami).

In essence, knowing how LITTLE is REALLY known about future weather forecasts, how little we understand the weather that is staring us in the face... why do scientists need to resort to asking people to make leaps of faith in their assessments of human's impact on the climate (the exact leaps of faith scientists ridicule religious folks for when trying to explain the existence of God). I tell you why: Because they KNOW they haven't a leg to stand on. They've lied for so long that it's impossible for them to make their true point, namely that global warming is real, but that humans may not have anything to do with it at all.

I'm not a scientist nor a meteorologist but... if the overwhelming evidence shows periods or warming and cooling taking place multiple times in past samples... why are we even discussing the fact that Little Jimmy's farts are causing Irma? Why?

Trilobite (marine) fossils from the were found atop Everest, which is over 29,000 feet... this is well before any human or any monkey walked on the face of the planet... What makes us think that we, an existential bag of farts that will eventually be phased out like many other species, have this grandiose effect on our climate?



if you are not trolling and actually want to understand the scenario it's the speed of change which is the issue, not the change per se. No species has dominated the planet like us, you honestly can't believe we can't have a massive impact on the earth with the drilling, polluting, building we are doing can you?

The predictions are coming true that's how we know it's correct, they use computer models to map the data they have from all around the world, satellites, ice cores, oceanography and it's all in accord. You really think the weather is that mysterious to us? we have satellites floating around in space taking precision pictures of the earth, space ships that send remote controlled cars all over mars, instruments that detect gravitational waves from lightyears away.. it's not rocket science it's climate science much easier and the consensus from the world is in.

Sure people will try to profit that doesn't negate the facts, that's just shitty people. The only way to at least start to tackle the issue is to accept it, denial is causing stagnation and it's funny because it's the same issue you find fault in only the inverse, oil/gas want to delay any changes due to economic impacts.

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Conker on September 10, 2017, 03:26:37 AM
if you are not trolling and actually want to understand the scenario it's the speed of change which is the issue, not the change per se. No species has dominated the planet like us, you honestly can't believe we can't have a massive impact on the earth with the drilling, polluting, building we are doing can you?

The predictions are coming true that's how we know it's correct, they use computer models to map the data they have from all around the world, satellites, ice cores, oceanography and it's all in accord. You really think the weather is that mysterious to us? we have satellites floating around in space taking precision pictures of the earth, space ships that send remote controlled cars all over mars, instruments that detect gravitational waves from lightyears away.. it's not rocket science it's climate science much easier and the consensus from the world is in.

Sure people will try to profit that doesn't negate the facts, that's just shitty people. The only way to at least start to tackle the issue is to accept it, denial is causing stagnation and it's funny because it's the same issue you find fault in only the inverse, oil/gas want to delay any changes due to economic impacts.




the fact that you think climate science is less complicated than rocket science says it all really
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Necrosis on September 10, 2017, 04:43:33 AM

the fact that you think climate science is less complicated than rocket science says it all really

It's a manner of speech for one, two, of course it is if we are literally comparing the two.

each degree rise in temp allows for 7% more water to be held in the atmosphere.

Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Slapper on September 10, 2017, 07:08:26 PM
if you are not trolling and actually want to understand the scenario it's the speed of change which is the issue, not the change per se.

And this is exactly where I want you. As you may already know, one of the pillars of climate change is what are commonly known as "return periods," which are nothing more than the time elapse between the same event occurring twice or more. So, for example, a 3+ inches of snow even in Miami may have a 500 year return period or a 90+ day dry spell on top of Mt. Waialeale may have a 250 year return period. In essence, all climatic events have a return period. Since there's, arguably, about 50 years of reliable weather data... has anyone ever wondered how it is that a scientist allocates a 100, 200 or 300 return period to a climatic event if they only have 50 years of reliable weather data? I tell you how: THEY MAKE IT UP! Yes! They make shit up. In reality, they do not know, they haven't a clue. What has been happening though is that the data that is now coming in is providing climatologists a clearer window on the frequency of weather events, and one of the unintended consequences of the newly collected data is the perception that the return periods are getting shorter and shorter. Bullshit. The issue has been the staring point all along, and I don't see many scientists publicly stating that they were wrong. In fact, they will never admit to any wrongdoing because doing so would bring the man-made global warming house of cards in a heart beat.

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No species has dominated the planet like us, you honestly can't believe we can't have a massive impact on the earth with the drilling, polluting, building we are doing can you?

No, I don't. Take for example 10,000 years ago: Britain was completely covered in an ice sheet then, in a blink of an eye the ice started melting and folks from other parts of Europe started moving in. This was way before the fossil fuel era began. That's 11,180 years prior to any human burning anything other than trees or dry moss.

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The predictions are coming true that's how we know it's correct, they use computer models to map the data they have from all around the world, satellites, ice cores, oceanography and it's all in accord. You really think the weather is that mysterious to us? we have satellites floating around in space taking precision pictures of the earth, space ships that send remote controlled cars all over mars, instruments that detect gravitational waves from lightyears away.. it's not rocket science it's climate science much easier and the consensus from the world is in.

Ok then. What is the weather going to be like in Manhattan on 10/15/17?

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Sure people will try to profit that doesn't negate the facts, that's just shitty people. The only way to at least start to tackle the issue is to accept it, denial is causing stagnation and it's funny because it's the same issue you find fault in only the inverse, oil/gas want to delay any changes due to economic impacts.

As someone who has owned and operated various personal weather stations (PWS) throughout his life and has had to deal with miscalibrated PWS all these years, I am a little skeptical, to say the least. I had one weather station that regularly recorded temperatures 5-10 degrees lower than a station up the hill. I used to exchange the data with the guy that monitored the station up the hill and we both had the data from both stations posted on Weatherunderground.com. I was even interviewed by a bunch of students from the local junior high about the discrepancy... I told then I had no idea what was causing the disparity but that my hunch was that cooler air was accumulating at the bottom of the valley and hence the lower temperature readings from my station. Fast forward 10 years and I find out, after buying a second station, that the original station was miscalibrated. 10-15 years worth of data down the drain.

El Azizia had the highest recorded temperature in the world for 90 years before it was deemed invalid by the WMO.

Tread lightly my friend.
Title: Re: Obama orders government to prepare for impact of global warming executive order
Post by: Conker on September 11, 2017, 01:56:12 AM
It's a manner of speech for one, two, of course it is if we are literally comparing the two.

each degree rise in temp allows for 7% more water to be held in the atmosphere.



so you do actually think that rocket science is more complex than climate science!  ???

by the end of the 70s there had already been dosens of successful rocket launches. Meanwhile during the 70s scientists believed the earth was cooling and an ice age was imminent. fast forward just 40 years and they're now saying the complete opposite

there are so many variables and interactions between variables that influence the climate and the earth's ecosystem in general that we still have virtually no understanding of. we don't even understand what leads to the earth cyclically transitioning between glacial and inter-glacial periods. yet we are supposed to believe that scientists have now mastered climate science and know what we need to do to manipulate the earth's future climate.

it's no more ridiculous than thinking a rain dance will bring rain