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So today I just had a successful interview with a company and will be hired pending a background check. I haven't signed a contract or an agreement yet so I'm not yet officially hired. This is a major company so they won't hire me until the background check is completed...maybe 2 weeks. So anyways today after the interview i get home and I get 2 calls from two other companies I applied to 2 weeks ago saying they have a lot of work available and they want to interview me. I scheduled an interview with one but I'm not sure if I'm going...what do you guys recommend?
The thing is I'm a bit nervous about the background check because I lied about the reason I no longer work for my former employer.
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honestly i think you should lie low
time out is about ten post away
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Oops I posted this I the wrong forum. Mods please move it to he general, thanks.
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Always keep interviewing until your first day at the new job. Do NOT get "infatuated" with a job that you do not already have, and stop looking.
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So today I just had a successful interview with a company and will be hired pending a background check. I haven't signed a contract or an agreement yet so I'm not yet officially hired. This is a major company so they won't hire me until the background check is completed...maybe 2 weeks. So anyways today after the interview i get home and I get 2 calls from two other companies I applied to 2 weeks ago saying they have a lot of work available and they want to interview me. I scheduled an interview with one but I'm not sure if I I'm going...what do you guys recommend?
The thing is I'm a bit nervous about the background check because I lied about the reason I no longer work for my former employer.
As long as you did not allow the schomes to video tape your g4p sessions you should be ok.
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Always keep interviewing until your first day at the new job. Do NOT get "infatuated" with a job that you do not already have, and stop looking.
This is what I'm thinking. I mean I don't want to sit on my ass for 2 weeks waiting for them to tell me I'm hired. But the interview went real well and the guy seemed to like me...even said he needs a well built guy like me for some accounts. The thing that bothers me is the background check with my previous employer.
Another problem is if I interview with this other company and they expect to hire me or answer on the spot. These are two big companies and i dont want to burn any bridges with either of them.
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Turning down a job offer is not burning a bridge.
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Depends on what level of background they do. Unless you need security clearance or integrity status (think police / sheriff) they more than likely won't contact peers, friends and family.
Microsoft and other corps do background checks at a level 1 station meaning they are just checking for convictions and validate any stated degree necessary for the position.
I would go on the other interviews and let them know you may have a position lined up. That can set you up for a harder look and maybe a pay scale bid. For example when they find out you have an offer but it potential start date is a couple weeks away they may look at your resume harder figuring is someone (hopefully a competitor) is already making you an offer, you may be a resource they don't want to get away. If they ask what your salary will be there, add 20% and see if they match it ;D
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As long as you did not allow the schomes to video tape your g4p sessions you should be ok.
Naw never anything like that or any legal trouble that hasn't been expunged as a minor.
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Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Go to the other interviews. If only to broaden your professional network. As long as you don't blow it, you'll impress yet another group of important people at another important company. Only good can come of that.
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Remember that the guy is the one with the dick.
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Another problem is if I interview with this other company and they expect to hire me or answer on the spot. These are two big companies and i dont want to burn any bridges with either of them.
Don't ever accept on the spot. Companies that make you do that either know you are desperate or they are. I would answer something like this " Thank you Mr / Mrs Interviewer I do appreciate the generous offer. My skills are a great fit here and I know I would fit into the company culture quite well but I would like to think about this for couple days (and discuss this with my family / wife) as it is a major decision in my career path." ...or something like that
Any solid, professional company would not expect a professional to start jumping up and down like a kid that just got into Disney land when offered a position. Especially if it is management, revenue generating or business critical position of which are typically held for highly qualified, experienced, educated people of which are well compensated 8)
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Always keep interviewing until your first day at the new job. Do NOT get "infatuated" with a job that you do not already have, and stop looking.
I would keep interviewing until your potential for interviews completely stops. I've seen plenty of folks get hired, start and quit within a month because the employer they really preferred and also interviewed with finally made an offer. Yeah, you'd burn a bridge with the employer you'd quit from, but in the long run....
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Depends on what level of background they do. Unless you need security clearance or integrity status (think police / sheriff) they more than likely won't contact peers, friends and family.
Microsoft and other corps do background checks at a level 1 station meaning they are just checking for convictions and validate any stated degree necessary for the position.
I would go on the other interviews and let them know you may have a position lined up. That can set you up for a harder look and maybe a pay scale bid. For example when they find out you have an offer but it potential start date is a couple weeks away they may look at your resume harder figuring is someone (hopefully a competitor) is already making you an offer, you may be a resource they don't want to get away. If they ask what your salary will be there, add 20% and see if they match it ;D
This is a security position...rent a cop lol but with a major regional company that has a rep for being uptight but pays decent for the line of work. I think you're right I'll go on the interview and just let them know the situation and tell them I'd be open to employment with them if things fall through. But honestly with these security companies they will feel insulted for not jumping on their job offer.
oh and cool to see a fellow poly on the board you rock wiper lol I'm a horsee/tongan.
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rockwiper haha..
Regarding the job interview, I wouldn't say you'd be willing to work for them if the other things fall through. If they offer you the position I'd use what I said earlier. Don't tell them another company is hiring you and your just awaiting the background.
Tell them you are interested in them and appreciate the offer and reaffirm your skill set on why you are the candidate they NEED to hire but you do have several offers at the moment and would like to take a couple of days and evaluate your options because (here's where the bs starts to flow) this is an important decision as you are NOT just looking for a job this is a career move for you and you want to be sure that the position you accept will allow for the growth in your career path you are looking forward to. (as a hiring manager I would think that you have a level head, not quick to act impulsively and you have goals of possibly climbing into a manager position in the future and will take your duties seriously)
This will speak volumes about your character and your personal investment in the position for long term employment.
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never lie dumbass seriously
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whats your salary gonna be?
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rockwiper haha..
Regarding the job interview, I wouldn't say you'd be willing to work for them if the other things fall through. If they offer you the position I'd use what I said earlier. Don't tell them another company is hiring you and your just awaiting the background.
Tell them you are interested in them and appreciate the offer and reaffirm your skill set on why you are the candidate they NEED to hire but you do have several offers at the moment and would like to take a couple of days and evaluate your options because (here's where the bs starts to flow) this is an important decision as you are just looking for a job this is a career move for you and you want to be sure that the position you accept will allow for the growth in your career path you are looking forward to. (as a hiring manager I would think that you have a level head, not quick to act impulsively and you have goals of possibly climbing into a manager position in the future and will take your duties seriously)
This will speak volumes about your character and your personal investment in the position for long term employment.
This is good stuff. Thanks uce.
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whats your salary gonna be?
Tree fiddy an hour.
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This is good stuff. Thanks uce.
Talitali fiefia
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Tree fiddy an hour.
why not say it?
this is getbig we dont know you in real life
how much
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Always keep interviewing until your first day at the new job. Do NOT get "infatuated" with a job that you do not already have, and stop looking.
This. I've been caught out before...twice. Until you sign on the dotted line it don't matter what they say verbally kunts can let you down - especially some geezer saying he's "above 800 of the manufacturing people" in the plant and shakes your hand twice before you leave the building promising you a job as a line Engineer. KUNT!!!
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This. I've been caught out before...twice. Until you sign on the dotted line it don't matter what they say verbally kunts can let you down - especially some geezer saying he's "above 800 of the manufacturing people" in the plant and shakes your hand twice before you leave the building promising you a job as a line Engineer. KUNT!!!
in the end someone else was favored
maybe he wasnt lying at the time
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why not say it?
this is getbig we dont know you in real life
how much
Not a lot brother but more than my last job and enough to survive and enjoy a few extras in life.
I live in LA where the cost of living is top 5 in the nation so salary alone doesn't tell the whole story.
How much do you make? If I remember correctly you're a manager of some sort.
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This. I've been caught out before...twice. Until you sign on the dotted line it don't matter what they say verbally kunts can let you down - especially some geezer saying he's "above 800 of the manufacturing people" in the plant and shakes your hand twice before you leave the building promising you a job as a line Engineer. KUNT!!!
Brutal...im going on more interviews.
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Not a lot brother but more than my last job and enough to survive and enjoy a few extras in life.
I live in LA where to cost of living is top 5 in the nation.
How much do you make?
i'm scared to spell it out
i'm grossly underpaid
a monthly pay check cant even buy me an overnight posing session with kai greene
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in the end someone else was favored
maybe he wasnt lying at the time
He let me down big time he didn't ask me to accept he said call him Sunday I did and he said great ill call you next week to sort starting. So he doesn't call I get him two weeks later and he gets someone to call me be back saying I could be a "box operator" on the line...I was like " you mean packing boxes??" And he was like yeah lol but an engineer role might come up. I do one 12 hour shift on line and never went back! It was my first graduate position offer I had just graduated
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Are they all security? If not then I would jump on the one that isn't security.
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Are they all security? If not then I would jump on the one that isn't security.
haha calf yes and I know...get out of security asap.
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why not say it?
this is getbig we dont know you in real life
how much
yeah Ana WHY not telling boys about yours location first ;D
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http://news.dice.com/2014/01/06/pre-employment-credit-check-hits-tech-workers-hardest/?CMPID=EM_SV_UP_JS_AD_LC_AD_&utm_source=Cheetahmail&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=Advisory_Lifecycle&om_rid=AAGso-&om_mid=_BQI8$-B8tYqRPk&dadv&om_rid=AAgjM8&om_mid=_BSzrl$B83jm3In&dice
Pre-Employment Credit Check Hits Tech Workers Hard
Technology job candidates are among the most likely to be screened with pre-employment credit checks, so they may be particularly interested in a proposal in Congress that would bar employers from using such checks during the hiring process.
According to a random survey of 544 human resource professionals, 87 percent say job candidates with responsibility for technology, as well as fiduciary and financial responsibility, are subject to pre-employment credit screening. Oracle, for one, has previously come under fire for its use of credit checks.
Meantime, 25 percent say they are likely to screen IT workers who have responsibility for electronics equipment and other forms of property, according to the Society of Human Resource Management, which conducted the survey.
History of Good Credit
Employers overall tend to favor a six- to seven-year credit history when screening job applicants. According to the survey, 52 percent of high-tech job candidates who have fiduciary and financial responsibility are likely to have a history pulled. That credit report looks at timely payments, size of debt and other factors, and is different than a snapshot credit score, says Amy Traub, senior policy analyst for think tank Demos.
“A high salary is not a good predictor of creditworthiness,” Traub says, noting that pre-employment credit checks are unfair and serve no useful barometer on whether a potential employee is likely to steal money, property or information from their employer. She notes that even though engineers and other high-tech jobs pay well, a medical catastrophe or layoffs can suddenly put a good credit rating at risk.
States with Credit Check Restrictions
Although there is an effort afoot to impose a federal ban on pre-employment credit checks, some states already have restrictions in place. California is one. The other nine include Nevada, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Oregon, Vermont and Washington, according to law firm Seyfarth Shaw.
According to the Washington Post, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) introduced the “Equal Employment for All” bill, which is meant to stop employers from disqualifying job applicants based on a poor credit history. Lawmakers argue that the use of credit checks in hiring adds to long-term unemployment and disproportionately impacts women and minorities who took a hit during the financial crisis.
“No one should be denied the chance to compete for a job because of a credit report that bears no relationship to job performance,” said Warren during a call with reporters. She is one of seven lawmakers sponsoring the Equal Employment for All Act.
The Fair Credit Reporting Act currently allows employers to check a job applicant’s credit history if the applicant gives their consent. According to a 2012 survey by SHRM, 47 percent of employers use credit checks when making hiring decisions.
There’s a long history of using credit reports to figure out if applicants who would be responsible for handling money can manage their own finances, says Elizabeth Milito, senior executive counsel at the National Federation of Independent Business. “A credit check can serve an important function in certain jobs, especially in the financial services industry,” she contends. “A blanket prohibition would disadvantage many businesses that use credit as one component of a background check.”
But the practice is now pretty common for any type of position, and advocates and lawmakers say there is little evidence that credit checks make sense across the board. A study from Demos revealed that credit checks were conducted for jobs such as telephone tech support and selling frozen yogurt. The think tank polled unemployed Americans and found that one in 10 had been told they would not be hired because of their credit history. Poor credit was often related to lack of health insurance, medical debt or job loss.
“The use of credit checks creates a Catch 22 for job seekers,” says Nancy Zirkin, executive vice president of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. “It traps unemployed workers who have fallen behind on their bills in a vicious cycle of debt.”
(http://cdn.dice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Techonomics-Pre-employment-credit-checks.jpg)
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Always keep interviewing until your first day at the new job. Do NOT get "infatuated" with a job that you do not already have, and stop looking.
GOOD advices
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Naw never anything like that or any legal trouble that hasn't been expunged as a minor.
I had a friend who was denied entrance into Canada over something that was "expunged."
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I had a friend who was denied entrance into Canada over something that was "expunged."
The conviction gets expunged but the arrest record is ALWAYS there.
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I had a friend who was denied entrance into Canada over something that was "expunged."
Meh. Too cold in canada anyway.
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LinkedIn Expands Its Jobs Database With A New Volunteer Marketplace For Unpaid Non-Profit Work
http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/15/linkedin-launches-a-volunteer-marketplace-to-extend-its-job-hunting-platform-to-free-work/
LinkedIn, the social network for the working world, has gained a reputation as a place to go when you’re looking for a job, or a person to fill a vacant role. Now the company is expanding on that idea with the launch of a Volunteer Marketplace – a place people can go to post and look for unpaid positions. The site is live now, with openings ranging from asking for help with web development at nonprofits like Hire Our Heroes through to a request for a voluntary board member (with fundraising experience) at the United Way of San Luis Obispo.
But even if the marketplace will focus on unpaid work and is currently limited to U.S. 501c3 nonprofits, posting in the marketplace will not be free: I went through the process of posting a job on the marketplace a moment ago, and in the UK (where I am based and LinkedIn automatically redirects me on all paid matters) a single, 30-day posting costs around $20 (at a current 90% discount); a five-job pack costs around $164 per job; a 10-job pack costs $132 per job (the rates seem to vary depending on where I post the job).
“Yes, we are charging a nominal fee to help with quality and fraud control when you post,” a spokesperson told me. “We are investing all revenue directly back to the nonprofit sector, to increase the liquidity of the postings.”
Launching a volunteer marketplace makes sense for a few reasons:
– LinkedIn is currently courting more students to sign up, with an expansion of its university pages and now the ability for people as young as 14 to create accounts. Volunteer positions, which could include internships or other work experience, are a key way of getting those younger users to engage more in LinkedIn.
– It is a way to get people who are not actively looking for paid work to keep using LinkedIn to expand their horizons.
“When I talk with LinkedIn members, many tell me they aren’t actively looking for traditional job opportunities,” writes Reid Hoffman, co-founder and chairman of LinkedIn, writes in a blog post up today. “Instead, they want to hone or leverage their skills while also making a positive impact on the world.”
– It’s a way of helping out a sector that really needs it. The cynics among you might think that LinkedIn is simply looking for a way to drive up its position as a place for recruitment, whatever the nature of it. Talent solutions — the division of the company that covers job listings and related paid products — generated 57% of its $393 million in revenues, or $224 million, in the last fiscal quarter. On the other hand, the area of volunteering, particularly for non-profits, is massively undersubscribed, with a recent study from the Taproot foundation noting that 92% of nonprofits are currently on the hunt for volunteers to fill roles.
– It also fits in with a part of LinkedIn’s existing aggregation of profile data. When users create and update their profiles on the site, along with professional experience, you can (just as you do on a resume) include charitable and other non-paid interests in the Volunteer and Causes part of their profiles. Some three million members have added this information to their profiles. Hoffman writes that some 600,000 have indicated they would like to serve on boards or do other skills-based volunteering.
Adding in a marketplace to serve that need not only makes entering that kind of information more relevant, but it increases the chances that more will do so — right now there are more than 259 million members, so three million is not exactly a huge proportion.
Although there are already organizations like CatchAFire built to connect professionals with volunteering opportunities, the fact that we are largely talking about a fundamentally low-margin business like non-profits means that there is usually less attention paid to these kinds of platforms. Coupling a marketplace for unpaid positions to one that already gets a lot of traffic for paid positions could see a boost of attention for volunteering. In fact, CatchAFire, along with the Taproot Foundation, BoardSource and VolunteerMatch are all partnering with LinkedIn for the service — with LinkedIn serving as a kind of aggregator.
Right now, if you look at the listings on the marketplace, all come from non-profit organizations. I am asking whether that will remain the case longer term or whether LinkedIn plans to add other unpaid work like internships or other work at profit-generating companies. Such a move could potentially raise the question of whether LinkedIn encourages unpaid work at the expense of companies offering fair remuneration for a job done, no matter how small it is. (Update: looks like it is only nonprofits for now, according to a spokesperson.)