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Has anyone been following Rand's GetBig style meltdown over his plagiarism scandal
It's been going on for over a week now but I haven't seen it mentioned here at all
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have not even heard about a "scandal"
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have not even heard about a "scandal"
it's been going on for the last week
you haven't heard anything about it?
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it's been going on for the last week
you haven't heard anything about it?
I haven't either.
Cliffs?
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it's been going on for the last week
you haven't heard anything about it?
nope but to be honest I have been very busy the last few weeks
it probably taking a back seat to the huge "if you like your insurance/doctor you can keep them, period" scandal.
Or the scandal about how the admin knew that millions would be forced off their current plan and still continued to lie.
Or the scandal about how they admin was told repeatedly that the website was not ready and decided to go through with the launch anyway.
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nope but to be honest I have been very busy the last few weeks
it probably taking a back seat to the huge "if you like your insurance/doctor you can keep them, period" scandal.
Or the scandal about how the admin knew that millions would be forced off their current plan and still continued to lie.
Or the scandal about how they admin was told repeatedly that the website was not ready and decided to go through with the launch anyway.
fucking liberal media
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I haven't either.
Cliffs?
???
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we do have CNBC on in our bull pen but its usually financial/current events coverage
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it's not a scandal. If it's the worse thing the dems have on him, then Rand is sitting pretty for 2016. Everyone has a little dirt on them... Dudes like perry or Santorum or Rand have very little... Others, not so much.
Still, Rand has to start checking shit better. This keeps happening. There's being efficient, then there's copying pages of shit and not citing. I know with govt, you deal with papers and papers and papers all day long... so I give rand a pass here. Just watch documents closer in the future. Rand should be above responding to this. Answer every Q with an ipad showing the national debt climbing. "In the time it took you to rephrase that questions, we just borrowed $4 million. Do you still want to focus on this irrelevant crap, Mr Reporter?"
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Rand Paul's supposed "plagiarism" is a scancal but Benghazi, IRS targeting conservatives, and Fast and Furious are phony scandals.
Yeah, anyone who still can't see the stupidity of libtards and democrats is an absolute moron.
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Rand Paul's supposed "plagiarism" is a scancal but Benghazi, IRS targetting conservatives, and Fast and Furious are phony scandals.
Yeah, anyone who still can't see the stupidity of libtards and democrats is an absolute moron.
Its funny to watch them try to find ANYTHING to go after Paul with...this plagerism crap is about the weakest last resort thing you can call and it shows their desperation. It is so vague and petty that no one gives a shit other than rachel madcow.
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How is it the the liberals control the media yet some of our right wingers have never even heard of this story?
It was in the New York Times last week and Rand himself was on an ABC news show talking about it and as even more incidents have been uncovered he has been having a meltdown and whining that he just wants people to leave him alone. Is that how a potential POTUS deals with something stressful? If this is not a crisis (which it certainly is for his own credibility) then how is he going to handle a real crisis as POTUS
He is so frustrated he even threatened to leave politics and said: "People can think what they want. I can go back to being a doctor any time,"
The Washington Times (a conservative paper) just cancelled his weekly column and issued an apology to it's readers
BTW - The Washington Time cancelled his weekly column:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/11/washingon-times-cancels-rand-pauls-column.html
http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/5/washington-times-ends-sen-rand-paul-column-amid-pl/
Here are some recent links from local Kentucky papers that seem to think his plagiarism and the way he has reacted to it is a big deal.
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20131106/OPINION01/311060062/
http://www.kentucky.com/2013/11/07/2916164/pauls-pouty-reaction-senator-hostile.html#storylink=cpy
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How is it the the liberals control the media yet some of our right wingers have never even heard of this story
It just proves how much of a non-story this is
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It just proves how much of a non-story this is
or it proves how much of a bubble our right wing posters on this board live in to not even be aware of this
The Washington Times (a conservative paper) cancelled his weekly column due to his blatant plagiarism
that is not a "non-story"
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Even Breitbart covered this story
How is it that my right wing friends are not aware of this story?
Jesus - can this guy act like more of a whiny little bitch?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/11/06/Plagiarism-costs-rand-paul-washington-times-column
PLAGIARISM CHARGES COST RAND PAUL WASHINGTON TIMES COLUMN
WASHINGTON, Nov. 6 (UPI) --
U.S. Sen. Rand Paul said he would now footnote his writings "like college papers" and said if people were tired of him he would "go back to being a doctor." "What we are going to do from here forward, if it will make people leave me the hell alone, is we're going to do them like college papers," the Kentucky Republican and possible 2016 White House hopeful told The New York Times after his office announced a more diligent system to attribute material.
"We're going to try to put out footnotes," Paul said after a growing number of accusations suggested he used plagiarized material in speeches, an opinion article and a book. Paul senior adviser Doug Stafford said in a statement footnotes on "collaborative works" would now "be available on request." "Ultimately I'm the boss and things go out under my name, and so it is my fault," Paul told CNN's "The Situation Room" late Tuesday. "But I will say that people need to also understand that, you know, I never have intentionally ever presented anyone's ideas as my own."
He told the Times the criticism was "coming from haters to begin with, because they want the implication to be out there that you're dishonest." That sentiment then "bleeds over into regular press," he said.
The opinion article that included material Paul failed to attribute appeared in The Washington Times Sept. 20. It copied language from an essay published in the magazine The Week Sept. 14. The newspaper, whose editorial slant is generally conservative, said Tuesday it was canceling Paul's weekly Friday column by mutual agreement.
"We expect our columnists to submit original work and to properly attribute material, and we appreciate that the senator and his staff have taken responsibility for an oversight in one column," Washington Times Editor John Solomon said. "The standard I'm being held to is a little different than everybody else," Paul told CNN. "They're now going back and reading every book from cover to cover and looking for places where we footnoted incorrectly and don't have quotation marks in the right places or we didn't indent correctly."
Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the Republican Party's presidential nominee in 2008 and a critic of Paul for the past six months, said the standard Paul is being held to is the standard of a politician building a national profile.
"I think when you have a high visibility in America politically, you've got to understand that you undergo scrutiny that you don't even as a senator," McCain told The New York Times. He said he wouldn't judge Paul's political fallout until he knew "how much there is of it."
Paul told The New York Times this sort of scrutiny is "what people hate about politics, and it's why, frankly, members of my family are not too interested in politics, period, or wanting me to do more of this."
"To tell you the truth, people can think what they want," he continued. "I can go back to being a doctor anytime, if they're tired of me. I'll go back to being a doctor, and I'll be perfectly content."
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This whole thing is a petty non-issue...'plagerism' is so vague it can cover anything. Its a weak attempt to attack him when they have absolutely nothing else.
No one cares but rachel madcow..and I guess you ;D
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This whole thing is a petty non-issue...'plagerism' is so vague it can cover anything. Its a weak attempt to attack him when they have absolutely nothing else.
No one cares but rachel madcow..and I guess you ;D
Plagiarism is not vague
I assume you didn't bother to read any of the links from local Kentucky papers
Apparently the Washington Times cares and they are a conservative paper
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I just read that. Its basically just what he says, a lot of ticky-tack nonsense from haters. It is truly a non issue
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I just read that. Its basically just what he says, a lot of ticky-tack nonsense from haters. It is truly a non issue
from which one of the links that I provided did you derive that conclusion?
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LOL - millions of people are losing health insurance and the best Straw TWINK can focus on is this bs. LOL!!!!
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LOL - millions of people are losing health insurance and the best Straw TWINK can focus on is this bs. LOL!!!!
unlike you I'm not interested in spending 24 hours a day crying about health insurance
I find it interesting that right wingers on this site are not even aware of this story
your messiah is melting down and threatening to quit politics
the dude doesn't seem capable of dealing with a minor crisis (completely of his own making) so how is he going to deal with much larger problems when if he were to become POTUS
btw - his Republican opponents will be throwing this is his face in the primaries. Not only of his blatant and rampant history of plagiarism but also how he dealt with the story
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LOL - the drama!!!!
unlike you I'm not interested in spending 24 hours a day crying about health insurance
I find it interesting that right wingers on this site are not even aware of this story
your messiah is melting down and threatening to quit politics
the dude doesn't seem capable of dealing with a minor crisis (completely of his own making) so how is he going to deal with much larger problems when if he were to become POTUS
btw - his Republican opponents will be throwing this is his face in the primaries. Not only of his blatant and rampant history of plagiarism but also how he dealt with the story
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LOL - the drama!!!!
beyond funny coming from the guy who has devoted hours of his life criticizing the physical appearance of the first lady and the christmas tree ornaments at the White House
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beyond funny coming from the guy who has devoted hours of his life criticizing the physical appearance of the first lady and the christmas tree ornaments at the White House
MoBaccaa is a worthless grafter as is her down lo fake husband
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The libtards must be terrified of Rand Paul if they are attacking him for something so ridiculous.
"What difference does it make?"
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The libtards must be terrified of Rand Paul if they are attacking him for something so ridiculous.
"What difference does it make?"
4 dead in Benghazi - no scandal
NSA - no scandal
300 dead in F & F - no scandal
IRS abusing its powers - no scandal
ObamaCare lies - no scandal
etc etc etc
This bs - lets drop everything. Typical leftist communist bs
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The libtards must be terrified of Rand Paul if they are attacking him for something so ridiculous.
"What difference does it make?"
the local papers are "libtards"
The Washington Time who cancelled his weekly column due to his blatant plagiarism is a conservative paper
Are they "libtards" too?
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4 dead in Benghazi - no scandal
NSA - no scandal
300 dead in F & F - no scandal
IRS abusing its powers - no scandal
ObamaCare lies - no scandal
etc etc etc
This bs - lets drop everything. Typical leftist communist bs
Strawtwink owned ;D
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Strawtwink owned ;D
hardly
tell us again which links you read to draw your conclusion on page 1 that the local papers think it's a bunch of nonsense and a non-issue
It seems you might have learned to read from the same school that taught 333
I only gave you two local links and you claim to have read one or both so tell us which one
btw - looks like even more plagiarism is coming out today
Seems like this was common practice for RP or maybe like you he just doesn't understand the definition of plagiarism
Rand Paul Plagiarized Several Sections Of 2012 Book 'Government Bullies': Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/rand-paul-plagiarism_n_4234306.html
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the local papers are "libtards"
The Washington Time who cancelled his weekly column due to his blatant plagiarism is a conservative paper
Are they "libtards" too?
Anyone that follows this libtard thinking, like that dyke Meadow, is a libtard.
A lot of people claim they are conservative and are not. I.E. Christie, Romney, etc...
Again.
To borrow a line from one of the worst secretary of state ever, "What difference does it make?"
It speaks volumes as to how warped your mind is when you consider this a "scandal", but treated Benghazi, IRS and fast and furious as "phony scandals". You cleaved to that talking point like a life preserver.
How come you are so worked up over Rand Paul that you felt the need to open this thread but NOT ONCE did you open a thread condemning the White House for Benghazi, IRS and FF?
Let me know when Rand's "plagiarism" kills americans.
Your contrived outrage is sickening.
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hardly
tell us again which links you read to draw your conclusion on page 1 that the local papers think it's a bunch of nonsense and a non-issue
It seems you might have learned to read from the same school that taught 333
I only gave you two local links and you claim to have read one or both so tell us which one
btw - looks like even more plagiarism is coming out today
Seems like this was common practice for RP or maybe like you he just doesn't understand the definition of plagiarism
Rand Paul Plagiarized Several Sections Of 2012 Book 'Government Bullies': Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/rand-paul-plagiarism_n_4234306.html
I read the article in your initial giant post above.
And plagerism so so vague that you could take virtually any book, speech, or article and find a 'plagerism' technicality. This jsut shows the desperation of the left that this is what they have to resort to.
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I read the article in your initial giant post above.
And plagerism so so vague that you could take virtually any book, speech, or article and find a 'plagerism' technicality. This jsut shows the desperation of the left that this is what they have to resort to.
giant post?
maybe that's a clue as to why you don't know the definition of plagiarism
why do you think the Washington Times cancelled his column?
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Because of a cheap technicality/politics
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Because of a cheap technicality/politics
really ?
technicality/politics ?
They said the reason was because they said he failed to attribute a source in one of his recent columns.
You know, taking someone else's words and pretending they were his own in writing. What is that called again?
Here is a quote from the editor (try to remember this is a conservative leaning paper)
“We expect our columnists to submit original work and to properly attribute material, and we appreciate that the senator and his staff have taken responsibility for an oversight in one column,” Times Editor John Solomon said.
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really ?
technicality/politics ?
They said the reason was because they said he failed to attribute a source in one of his recent columns.
You know, taking someone else's words and pretending they were his own in writing. What is that called again?
Here is a quote from the editor (try to remember this is a conservative leaning paper)
“We expect our columnists to submit original work and to properly attribute material, and we appreciate that the senator and his staff have taken responsibility for an oversight in one column,” Times Editor John Solomon said.
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what does this have to do with Rand being a serial plagiarist?
keep that shit about Obamacare on it's own thread
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Strawman really grasping at straws here ;D
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What about Rand Paul's toupee/wig ? that's gunna be the funniest shit while he makes fun of the King of Bacon(Christie), Paul's wearing an atrocious piece of road kill on his head! where's Spotter when we need him?
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From what I've been reading on this, he correctly sourced the material in the bib, but didn't correctly paraphrase or use quotes. So the casual reader will get the impression that they are his words.
He's well educated and knows better, so he needs to suck it up and apologize (a real apology) and move on.
He's still got a lot of good ideas and I think he's still a decent politician thus far. This isn't that big of a deal.
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LOL - millions of people are losing health insurance and the best Straw TWINK can focus on is this bs. LOL!!!!
if you had enough money you can buy a decent policy and be set.
like the rest of us.