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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Wolfox on November 07, 2013, 03:39:08 PM
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Fuck your freedom and right to make choices, the government will dictate whats best for you.
The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday took a first step toward potentially eliminating most trans fat from the food supply, saying it has made a preliminary determination that a major source of trans fats -- partially hydrogenated oils -- is no longer "generally recognized as safe."
If the preliminary determination is finalized, according to the FDA, then partially hydrogenated oils will become food additives that could not be used in food without approval. Foods with unapproved additives cannot legally be sold.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/health/fda-trans-fats/index.html?hpt=he_c1
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Fuck your freedom and right to make choices, the government will dictate whats best for you.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/health/fda-trans-fats/index.html?hpt=he_c1
I saw this on the news about 10 seconds ago...
Fucking outrageous. ........ >:(
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I saw this on the news about 10 seconds ago...
Fucking outrageous. ........ >:(
The nation is going the way of New York and California. This is some dystopian demolition man type shit.
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The nation is going the way of New York and California. This is some dystopian demolition man type shit.
Yes, and The Running Man... Scary
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Theyre trying to get DUI checkpoints passed here in WA.... seems like bullshit. ... I thought cops werent supposed to be able to just stop and essentially check you for wrongdoing without probable cause.....
along come DUI check points... oh, you look intoxicated, out of the car sir.....
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I know a dude that was anally searched 8 times for trans fatty acids.
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Fuck your freedom and right to make choices, the government will dictate whats best for you.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/health/fda-trans-fats/index.html?hpt=he_c1
after pushing vegetable oil poison for 50 years...
americants are so fucked
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Theyre trying to get DUI checkpoints passed here in WA.... seems like bullshit. ... I thought cops werent supposed to be able to just stop and essentially check you for wrongdoing without probable cause.....
along come DUI check points... oh, you look intoxicated, out of the car sir.....
It can depend on how they're handled.
DUICP's used to be quite common in my state years ago, but I was only ever stopped once. Two cops came up to my window, looked at my DL and insurance card, talked to me for less than a minute, then thanked me and let me go one it was obvious I was sober. I suspect they were employing the use of breathalyzer-equipped flashlights, too.
They had other people driving between cones; some were outside of their cars performing other tricks that many sober people would find challenging...but, I didn't have to do any of that.
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Fuck your freedom and right to make choices, the government will dictate whats best for you.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/health/fda-trans-fats/index.html?hpt=he_c1
It's about freaking time!!!!
Good Grief!!! If you want the freedom to kill yourselves, ...go right ahead, be my guest.
Just take a handful of rat poising if you wish, ...just don't go contaminating the food supply.
...because we all know food manufacturers would NEVER mislabel the contents of their food right? ::) ::)
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Did Obama hand the presidency over to Mike Bloomberg?
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Fuck your freedom and right to make choices, the government will dictate whats best for you.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/health/fda-trans-fats/index.html?hpt=he_c1
What is your problem with this?
You dont want your kids to get old?
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It's about freaking time!!!!
Good Grief!!! If you want the freedom to kill yourselves, ...go right ahead, be my guest.
Just take a handful of rat poising if you wish, ...just don't go contaminating the food supply.
...because we all know food manufacturers would NEVER mislabel the contents of their food right? ::) ::)
you really think its right to tell people what they can and cant eat? How about people are responsible for their own choices? Stop trying to legislate personal responsibility and health.... its up to the individual to decide what how he wants to live. If someone wants to be a fat piece of shit, thats their choice.... the government has no business telling people what can and cant be eaten.
about time.... give me a break.
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you really think its right to tell people what they can and cant eat? How about people are responsible for their own choices? Stop trying to legislate personal responsibility and health.... its up to the individual to decide what how he wants to live. If someone wants to be a fat piece of shit, thats their choice.... the government has no business telling people what can and cant be eaten.
about time.... give me a break.
It depends on how bad transfats are for you, I guess, right? Anyone here really know that?
Would the same people here calling for the freedom of choice (to sell foods with transfats) also be in favor of the Chinese being able to sell the USA those fake eggs, bad baby formula, and lead toothpaste? How about if the labels accurately listed the bad ingredients (but in really small print?
Sometimes these issues are a trifle more complicated than it seems on first blush, ya know.
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you really think its right to tell people what they can and cant eat? How about people are responsible for their own choices? Stop trying to legislate personal responsibility and health.... its up to the individual to decide what how he wants to live. If someone wants to be a fat piece of shit, thats their choice.... the government has no business telling people what can and cant be eaten.
about time.... give me a break.
So if the companies put rat poison in the food you are okay with it ???
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So if the companies put rat poison in the food you are okay with it ???
Because that's totally in the same realm. ::)
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It depends on how bad transfats are for you, I guess, right? Anyone here really know that?
Would the same people here calling for the freedom of choice (to sell foods with transfats) also be in favor of the Chinese being able to sell the USA those fake eggs, bad baby formula, and lead toothpaste? How about if the labels accurately listed the bad ingredients (but in really small print?
Sometimes these issues are a trifle more complicated than it seems on first blush, ya know.
if its shown tbat trans fata are literally some sort or poison and doesnt just make a person fat, then I would be all for banning it. But im totally against attempting to legislate health by removing "bad food choices". What a personputas in their body is their business.
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if its shown tbat trans fata are literally some sort or poison and doesnt just make a person fat, then I would be all for banning it. But im totally against attempting to legislate health by removing "bad food choices". What a personputas in their body is their business.
I agree. Just as long as the person purchases their own insurance to cover problems.
On that note. People who are dependent on the govt should have their diets dictated to them to keep down our costs.
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I agree. Just as long as the person purchases their own insurance to cover problems.
On that note. People who are dependent on the govt should have their diets dictated to them to keep down our costs.
Either that or neutered after 2 years on welfare, euthanized after 5.
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Either that or neutered after 2 years on welfare, euthanized after 5.
Another plank for our platform in 2016. 8)
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So what would be an argument from the consumer side, for keeping trans-fat?
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What is your problem with this?
You dont want your kids to get old?
So you actually think the government has a right to tell you what and what not to eat? It's on the parents
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Vote for an incumbent and this is what you will continue to get
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On that note. People who are dependent on the govt should have their diets dictated to them to keep down our costs.
This seems reasonable to me, no lie.
I have sympathy for my fellow Americans on food stamps but I would probably LOL if the cashier told the person in front of me in line, "Sorry, ma'am, but you can't use your EBT on those oreo cookies."
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This seems reasonable to me, no lie.
I have sympathy for my fellow Americans on food stamps but I would probably LOL if the cashier told the person in front of me in line, "Sorry, ma'am, but you can't use your EBT on those oreo cookies."
I know, right? I have thought for a long time that instead if paying farmers to not grow crops, have them grow healthy foods and create warehouses where welfare recipients "shop." They have proven to be a financial burden on society so we should alleviate some of it.
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So you actually think the government has a right to tell you what and what not to eat? It's on the parents
They are not telling you you cant eat it they are telling the companies who makes the food they cant put it in their product.
If they didnt our food would be fatal to eat.
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Because that's totally in the same realm. ::)
They are not telling you you cant it eat it they are telling companies that they cant put it in their products.
(There is certain standards to be meet if you want to sell food to humans).
Can you see the difference?
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They are not telling you you cant it eat it they are telling companies that they cant put it in their products.
(There is certain standards to be meet if you want to sell food to humans).
Can you see the difference?
Yes, comparing rat poison to a fat makes total sense. Label it as a trans fat food and let the citizens decide.
And its effectively the same damn thing. Theyre trying to legislate health via food choices.
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Myself, I'm stunned to think we may be witnessing a rare glimpse of the FDA working on their supposed mission.
Unlike other bad things (sugar, etc.), that a consumer could say has benefits (tastes good, etc.), I'm unaware of any such thing with trans-fat. Is anyone else?
It seems manufacturers have figured out ways around using trans-fat, which is simply a stabilizer ingredient for added shelf-life, etc., and this story isn't much more than grandstanding.
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if its shown tbat trans fata are literally some sort or poison and doesnt just make a person fat, then I would be all for banning it. But im totally against attempting to legislate health by removing "bad food choices". What a personputas in their body is their business.
That's EXACTLY what transfats are... THEY KILL!!!
Transfats originally started out as an agricultural product... to fatten up poultry and increase profits.
Unfortunately... all the poultry died. So much for increased Agroprofits, ...so they used it in human foodstuffs instead.
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That's EXACTLY what transfats are... THEY KILL!!!
Transfats originally started out as an agricultural product... to fatten up poultry and increase profits.
Unfortunately... all the poultry died. So much for increased Agroprofits, ...so they used it in human foodstuffs instead.
Instead of fighting the fights worth fighting Shockwave fights for companies rights to put crap in our food.
Well each his own i guess :-\
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Yes, comparing rat poison to a fat makes total sense. Label it as a trans fat food and let the citizens decide.
And its effectively the same damn thing. Theyre trying to legislate health via food choices.
Yes, but it's easier if the government takes care of your health, that way you aren't stuck having to deal with it. There are too many things to have to decide on our own and know you're doing it right.
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Transfats are harmful if combined with other factors such as an overall poor diet, unhealthy habits like smoking and drinking and genetics. As long as people know the risks, they should have the right to put whatever they want in their own bodies.
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From the U.S. National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health:
Trans fatty acids are manufactured fats created during a process called hydrogenation, which is aimed at stabilizing polyunsaturated oils to prevent them from becoming rancid and to keep them solid at room temperature.
Let's not forget that TF has become a liability to sales in the past few years, so it makes a perfect opportunity for the FDA to pretend they're legit without offending their corporate partners.
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Transfats are harmful if combined with other factors such as an overall poor diet, unhealthy habits like smoking and drinking and genetics. As long as people know the risks, they should have the right to put whatever they want in their own bodies.
Since when did "genetics" fall into the category of an unhealthy habit? ???
No one is saying they don't have the right to put whatever they want into their bodies. If someone wants to fill his belly with transfats, ...s/he is welcome to do so. What people are saying is that they don't want food manufacturers having the right to put a known killer (transfats) into their food.
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Since when did "genetics" fall into the category of an unhealthy habit? ???
No one is saying they don't have the right to put whatever they want into their bodies. If someone wants to fill his belly with transfats, ...s/he is welcome to do so. What people are saying is that they don't want food manufacturers having the right to put a known killer (transfats) into their food.
Is it a known killer? Correlation does not mean causation. Genetic is one of the other factors.