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Title: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Dos Equis on November 08, 2013, 09:21:44 AM
He has a point.

Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Posted by CNN's Ashley Killough

(CNN) – Dr. Ben Carson, a renowned neurosurgeon enjoying recent popularity in the conservative movement, compared the federal health care law to "slavery" during a speech Friday at the Values Voter Summit, an annual conservative gathering in Washington.

"Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. And it is – in a way, it is slavery, in a way," he said. "Because it is making all of us subservient to the government."

At the heart of his criticism is the law's requirement, beginning next year, for individuals to obtain health insurance or else face a penalty.

A longtime critic of the Affordable Care Act, Carson rose to fame earlier this year when he bashed Democratic policies on taxes and health care as he gave the keynote address at the National Prayer Breakfast. President Obama was sitting just feet away while he openly chided some of Obama's positions.

He argued Friday that the president's signature law "was never about health care."

"It was about control," he continued. "That's why when this administration took office it didn't matter that the country was going off the cliff economically. All forces were directed toward getting this legislation passed."

He said the Obama administration was 'neglecting' the Constitution and imposing "their own will" by picking and choosing which provisions of the health care law to enforce.

"When they give businesses exemptions but the common people they say, 'No, you have to do it, you know, that's not America," he said. "That's Russia. That's someplace else. How did we allow that to happen in this nation?"

He was referring to the administration's decision to delay for a year the employer mandate for businesses with more than 50 full-time employees. The individual mandate, however, is still scheduled to take effect in 2014.

As Carson gained more attention for his political views this year, some speculated he could run for public office–an option he hasn't ruled out.

Top conservatives rally at summit in Washington

But he sparked strong backlash in March when he equated homosexuality with pedophilia and bestiality during a television interview centered on same-sex marriage. Facing loud opposition, he apologized and withdrew from speaking gigs at Johns Hopkins medical school and an event for the American Academy of Physicians Assistants.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/11/carson-obamacare-is-slavery/?iref=obinsite
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2013, 09:26:02 AM
He has a point.

Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Posted by CNN's Ashley Killough

(CNN) – Dr. Ben Carson, a renowned neurosurgeon enjoying recent popularity in the conservative movement, compared the federal health care law to "slavery" during a speech Friday at the Values Voter Summit, an annual conservative gathering in Washington.

"Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. And it is – in a way, it is slavery, in a way," he said. "Because it is making all of us subservient to the government."

At the heart of his criticism is the law's requirement, beginning next year, for individuals to obtain health insurance or else face a penalty.

A longtime critic of the Affordable Care Act, Carson rose to fame earlier this year when he bashed Democratic policies on taxes and health care as he gave the keynote address at the National Prayer Breakfast. President Obama was sitting just feet away while he openly chided some of Obama's positions.

He argued Friday that the president's signature law "was never about health care."

"It was about control," he continued. "That's why when this administration took office it didn't matter that the country was going off the cliff economically. All forces were directed toward getting this legislation passed."

He said the Obama administration was 'neglecting' the Constitution and imposing "their own will" by picking and choosing which provisions of the health care law to enforce.

"When they give businesses exemptions but the common people they say, 'No, you have to do it, you know, that's not America," he said. "That's Russia. That's someplace else. How did we allow that to happen in this nation?"

He was referring to the administration's decision to delay for a year the employer mandate for businesses with more than 50 full-time employees. The individual mandate, however, is still scheduled to take effect in 2014.

As Carson gained more attention for his political views this year, some speculated he could run for public office–an option he hasn't ruled out.

Top conservatives rally at summit in Washington

But he sparked strong backlash in March when he equated homosexuality with pedophilia and bestiality during a television interview centered on same-sex marriage. Facing loud opposition, he apologized and withdrew from speaking gigs at Johns Hopkins medical school and an event for the American Academy of Physicians Assistants.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/11/carson-obamacare-is-slavery/?iref=obinsite

This guy is BAT SHIT CRAZY

yes, helping people get insurance (and in many cases giving the subsidies to help cover the costs) is just like being owned by another human being who can force you to work for free, beat you, sell you, etc...

Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2013, 09:27:23 AM
Fuck you Straw!  ObamaCare is not helping anyone but the criminals in the govt steal from us to give to the insurance carriers. 

Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2013, 09:32:34 AM
Fuck you Straw!  ObamaCare is not helping anyone but the criminals in the govt steal from us to give to the insurance carriers. 

it's helping some people

it's probably even going to help you even though you have to pay more

and Carson is a lunatic, possibly even crazier than you
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2013, 09:35:38 AM
it's helping some people

it's probably even going to help you even though you have to pay more

and Carson is a lunatic, possibly even crazier than you
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2013, 09:45:08 AM


yes, you posted that before

find something new to piss and moan about
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2013, 09:49:27 AM
yes, you posted that before

find something new to piss and moan about


Not really - millions and millions are being destroyed by obamacare and the best you radical communist a holes can do is point to nonsense like a rand paul or a mayor in Canada.

You dipshits who voted for this 2x over OWN this
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 08, 2013, 10:11:15 AM
This guy is BAT SHIT CRAZY

yes, helping people get insurance (and in many cases giving the subsidies to help cover the costs) is just like being owned by another human being who can force you to work for free, beat you, sell you, etc...



People have always been free to get health insurance....stop perpetuating the illusion that obamacare 'provides' anything. All it does is take away choice by FORCING people to buy it.
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2013, 11:01:51 AM
This guy is BAT SHIT CRAZY

yes, helping people get insurance (and in many cases giving the subsidies to help cover the costs) is just like being owned by another human being who can force you to work for free, beat you, sell you, etc...



Hey twinkie - eat it

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/30/CNN-ObamaCare-already-hurting-coverage


Obamacare is destroying this nation
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Shockwave on November 08, 2013, 11:05:11 AM
it's helping some people

it's probably even going to help you even though you have to pay more

and Carson is a lunatic, possibly even crazier than you
helping very few, hurting far more than its helping right now.

helping a paltry few is hardly justification for the all the damage its doing to the majority of the middle class
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: dario73 on November 08, 2013, 11:18:36 AM
Hey twinkie - eat it

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/30/CNN-ObamaCare-already-hurting-coverage


Obamacare is destroying this nation

So in essence with the limited number of insurance providers and hospitals, the oncoming rationing of health care or limited care, will affect more than 5%. It is going to affect everyone.

The road to single payer is being paved as we speak.
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
So in essence with the limited number of insurance providers and hospitals, the oncoming rationing of health care or limited care, will affect more than 5%. It is going to affect everyone.

The road to single payer is being paved as we speak.

Yeah - lets trust the same criminals and worthless pos who gave us obamacare to do single payer.  That makes tons of sense.   ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2013, 11:32:35 AM

Not really - millions and millions are being destroyed by obamacare and the best you radical communist a holes can do is point to nonsense like a rand paul or a mayor in Canada.

You dipshits who voted for this 2x over OWN this

no one is "being destroyed"

If you're being destroyed then I assume you won't be here much longer

Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2013, 11:34:43 AM
no one is "being destroyed"

If you're being destroyed then I assume you won't be here much longer



Yes they are you stupid communist fucking asshole - 3 MILLION SO FAR HAVE LOST COVERAGE. 

Jump off a bridge moron
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2013, 11:39:13 AM
helping very few, hurting far more than its helping right now.

helping a paltry few is hardly justification for the all the damage its doing to the majority of the middle class

No doubt this rollout has been a fiasco and the Obama administration owns that

no real data yet on just how many are being helped versus those who are seeing their premiums go up (i.e. having their policies cancelled and having to pay for more expensive policies)

I'll wait until the data is in before making any conclusions

Of course I don't expect certain people (not referring to you) to do the same

some people on this board have dedicated their life to complaining about everything

I have better things to do than complain about shit all day long every day of the week

I assume some people don't have anything better they can be doing

Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2013, 11:39:58 AM
Yes they are you stupid communist fucking asshole - 3 MILLION SO FAR HAVE LOST COVERAGE. 

Jump off a bridge moron

damn, change you diaper you fucking crybaby

Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2013, 11:41:18 AM
LOL - the data has been posted all over this page for weeks now.

ObamaCare is a DISASTER

No doubt this rollout has been a fiasco and the Obama administration owns that

no real data yet on just how many are being helped versus those who are seeing their premiums go up (i.e. having their policies cancelled and having to pay for more expensive policies)

I'll wait until the data is in before making any conclusions

Of course I don't expect certain people (not referring to you) to do the same

some people on this board have dedicated their life to complaining about everything

I have better things to do than complain about shit all day long every day of the week

I assume some people don't have anything better they can be doing


Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2013, 12:04:20 PM
LOL - the data has been posted all over this page for weeks now.

ObamaCare is a DISASTER


probably the best way to go forward is to spend your life on this board pissing and moaning about it 24/7
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2013, 12:04:58 PM
probably the best way to go forward is to spend your life on this board pissing and moaning about it 24/7

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/11/07/207909/analysis-tens-of-millions-could.html


 ;D
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2013, 07:00:36 PM
Straw cant be serious with these comments. No one, not even him can possibly be this stupid.
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Shockwave on November 08, 2013, 08:01:27 PM
Actually I think straw is being surprisingly realistic for him, he actually admitted the rollout was a disaster and admitted its nad, but hes reserving full judgement until more data is released, which is fair.

this is probably the only time ill ever defend him. Hell hath frozen over.
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2013, 03:13:39 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/05/7-Devastating-Obamacare-Facts


All aboard the fail train!
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: whork on November 09, 2013, 06:09:04 PM
He has a point.

Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Posted by CNN's Ashley Killough

(CNN) – Dr. Ben Carson, a renowned neurosurgeon enjoying recent popularity in the conservative movement, compared the federal health care law to "slavery" during a speech Friday at the Values Voter Summit, an annual conservative gathering in Washington.

"Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. And it is – in a way, it is slavery, in a way," he said. "Because it is making all of us subservient to the government."

At the heart of his criticism is the law's requirement, beginning next year, for individuals to obtain health insurance or else face a penalty.

A longtime critic of the Affordable Care Act, Carson rose to fame earlier this year when he bashed Democratic policies on taxes and health care as he gave the keynote address at the National Prayer Breakfast. President Obama was sitting just feet away while he openly chided some of Obama's positions.

He argued Friday that the president's signature law "was never about health care."

"It was about control," he continued. "That's why when this administration took office it didn't matter that the country was going off the cliff economically. All forces were directed toward getting this legislation passed."

He said the Obama administration was 'neglecting' the Constitution and imposing "their own will" by picking and choosing which provisions of the health care law to enforce.

"When they give businesses exemptions but the common people they say, 'No, you have to do it, you know, that's not America," he said. "That's Russia. That's someplace else. How did we allow that to happen in this nation?"

He was referring to the administration's decision to delay for a year the employer mandate for businesses with more than 50 full-time employees. The individual mandate, however, is still scheduled to take effect in 2014.

As Carson gained more attention for his political views this year, some speculated he could run for public office–an option he hasn't ruled out.

Top conservatives rally at summit in Washington

But he sparked strong backlash in March when he equated homosexuality with pedophilia and bestiality during a television interview centered on same-sex marriage. Facing loud opposition, he apologized and withdrew from speaking gigs at Johns Hopkins medical school and an event for the American Academy of Physicians Assistants.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/11/carson-obamacare-is-slavery/?iref=obinsite

Yes its exactly the same ::)
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: doison on November 09, 2013, 06:29:45 PM
He doesn't agree with me.  He's clearly BAT SHIT CRAZY. 
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: RRKore on November 10, 2013, 04:20:52 AM
He doesn't agree with me.  He's clearly BAT SHIT CRAZY. 


Disagree.  He said that ACA is the worst thing for America since slavery.  If he really believes that, he IS crazy. 

Does he really believe that ACA is worse than, say, the internment (imprisoning in camps) of American citizens of japanese descent during WW2?  He's an educated guy and should know better.
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: whork on November 10, 2013, 07:44:44 AM
Straw cant be serious with these comments. No one, not even him can possibly be this stupid.


No worries Coach you have him beat many times as the most stupid poster on GB.
Title: Re: Carson: Obamacare is 'slavery'
Post by: Straw Man on November 10, 2013, 08:27:50 AM
Actually I think straw is being surprisingly realistic for him, he actually admitted the rollout was a disaster and admitted its nad, but hes reserving full judgement until more data is released, which is fair.

this is probably the only time ill ever defend him. Hell hath frozen over.

I'm the same as I've always been so maybe you're just getting slightly smarter