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Title: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: loco on November 12, 2013, 11:40:24 AM
...so far it seems they are correct.   Discuss.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 12, 2013, 11:42:25 AM
...so far it seems they are correct.   Discuss.

Don't forget racists, birthers, wing nuts, bitcher society people, militia members, etc. 
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: headhuntersix on November 12, 2013, 12:23:28 PM
The mistake the Tea Party made was allowing the Left and the media to define them...as a fairly large but unorganized operation, they had no media arm to define who they are or what they stood for. The left got to call them racists for defying their messiah. as opposed to the bullshit OWS funded and planned by douches like Soros'. They had a narrative already to go and swallowed hole by the media.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: bears on November 12, 2013, 12:39:04 PM
...so far it seems they are correct.   Discuss.

that's racist.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: loco on November 12, 2013, 12:46:51 PM
that's racist.

LOL    ;D

Racist thread reported?  ???
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: Dos Equis on November 12, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
that's racist.

Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 13, 2013, 06:37:31 AM
...so far it seems they are correct.   Discuss.


Really?

According to them Obamacare would crash the economy and turn out to be the worst thing in US history worse than even slavery and what has happened so far?

Faulty website?
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 13, 2013, 06:51:59 AM
The tea party and actual conservatives have been right pretty much every time actually. They are the last significant force in the western world resisting the final complete takeover of liberal socialist ideology and that's why they have been demonized and smeared so much in the media, despite being proven correct time and time again
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: dario73 on November 13, 2013, 07:05:51 AM

Really?

According to them Obamacare would crash the economy and turn out to be the worst thing in US history worse than even slavery and what has happened so far?

Faulty website?


The website has kept obamacare from being fully implemented since only 50k have enrolled.

Crashing the economy doesn't happen in a split second. Look at Greece. Look at Detroit, Stockton (CA) and many other cities who are now bankrupt after YEARS of libtard economics.

This is why you are a libtard. You don't have knowledge, nor vision to see down the road what the outcome will be of implemeting all these entitlements and curtailing every day the free market.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: loco on November 13, 2013, 07:24:27 AM

Really?

According to them Obamacare would crash the economy and turn out to be the worst thing in US history worse than even slavery and what has happened so far?

Faulty website?


Just a faulty website?  Are you forgetting that Obama lied to the American people about their ability to keep their health insurance plan if they wanted to?
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: dario73 on November 13, 2013, 07:38:08 AM
Just a faulty website?  Are you forgetting that Obama lied to the American people about their ability to keep their health insurance plan if they wanted to?

Exactly.

Like I said in another thread it goes beyond the website. It's the lies by the president, the premium increase for many people, plans through employers will be affected that is why unions are complaining, the fact that it will cost a lot more to implement than what democrats stated, the inability to keep your doctor and now there are reports that IT WILL NOT help in decreasing the deficit.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Just a faulty website?  Are you forgetting that Obama lied to the American people about their ability to keep their health insurance plan if they wanted to?

And about whether the individual mandate was a tax, the overall cost of the law, people saving $2500 a year.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 14, 2013, 07:49:22 AM
Just a faulty website?  Are you forgetting that Obama lied to the American people about their ability to keep their health insurance plan if they wanted to?


Obama is a full-blown liar no argument here.

But dont act like the previous system was all good because it was SHIT.

Obama lied but the increased coverage and better overall health of the US population is worth it.

And the GOP has lied their teeth off regarding Obamacare with no repurcussions so its weird they freak out that Obama has lied as well.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2013, 07:52:08 AM

Obama is a full-blown liar no argument here.

But dont act like the previous system was all good because it was SHIT.

Obama lied but the increased coverage and better overall health of the US population is worth it.

And the GOP has lied their teeth off regarding Obamacare with no repurcussions so its weird they freak out that Obama has lied as well.
No its not worth it.    I prefer freedom of choice
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: Archer77 on November 14, 2013, 07:58:24 AM
My problem is the ACA doesn't help middle class families such as myself. Now I'm not only paying for my insurance, I'm subsidizing someone else's insurance. 
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 14, 2013, 08:34:36 AM
No its not worth it.    I prefer freedom of choice

You prefer the freedom of denying people healthcare and the freedom of companies making huge money while the country goes bankrupt.

Its not freedom you prefer you are fighting the fight for the overlords while fucking over your brothers.

If this were 1700 you would be fighting for the British.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: headhuntersix on November 14, 2013, 08:40:25 AM
"Freedom of denying people healthcare"....there folks...there in a nutshell is idiot liberal logic. THERE IS NO RIGHT TO HEATHCARE.  We do however provide heathcare free of charge to alot of people. We also provide the opportunity to get just about anything u need medically here in the states. You do need to pay for it...in alot of countries u just die. U can also walk into any ER and get trauma care...you may pay for it after but its available. We cannot afford to pay for 350 million people and their heathcare. If you can't put yourself in a position to afford it, not my issue. If states are unwilling to work tort reform..nothing I can do either, but that would help. If people would stop looking for something for nothing to the extent that they do...more people would have what you're asking about. I am not paying for your healthcare.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 14, 2013, 08:41:07 AM
STFU troll


You spend your life on this board yet this is the best you got ::)

You are pretty sad.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 14, 2013, 08:47:25 AM
And you don't? For fuck's sake, you used to have running conversations with yourself until all your gimmicks got exposed, you fucking loser.  :D :D :D :D


I only have this account :)

The gimmick things is on you always coming to Soul's rescue. Are you Soulcrusher?

Would explain your facination with Gimmick's.

I would actually prefer Soul to have a gimmick if it posted something better than: "STFU you troll".
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2013, 08:50:36 AM

I only have this account :)

The gimmick things is on you always coming to Soul's rescue. Are you Soulcrusher?

Would explain your facination with Gimmick's.

I would actually prefer Soul to have a gimmick if it posted something better than: "STFU you troll".


You are not worthy of any other response. 
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 14, 2013, 09:00:25 AM

You are not worthy of any other response. 


And yet you bothered to post not one but two.

Need i say more?
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 14, 2013, 09:24:14 AM
You prefer the freedom of denying people healthcare and the freedom of companies making huge money while the country goes bankrupt.

Its not freedom you prefer you are fighting the fight for the overlords while fucking over your brothers.

If this were 1700 you would be fighting for the British.

NO ONE IS DENYING ANYONE HEALTHCARE.

why do you keep repeating this?? Anyone is and has always been free to sign up for insurance, and nobody is denied treatment. Where do you get this myth that conservatives are 'denying people health care'???
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: bears on November 14, 2013, 09:34:58 AM
NO ONE IS DENYING ANYONE HEALTHCARE.

why do you keep repeating this?? Anyone is and has always been free to sign up for insurance, and nobody is denied treatment. Where do you get this myth that conservatives are 'denying people health care'???

it's easy to get impressionable liberals to believe anything.  all you have to do is say it enough times.  even if it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 14, 2013, 10:59:47 AM
NO ONE IS DENYING ANYONE HEALTHCARE.

why do you keep repeating this?? Anyone is and has always been free to sign up for insurance, and nobody is denied treatment.

Thats kind of the problem. The reason they get treatment is one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive. You know what it costs the people to give healthcare to uninsured people ???
Go read the numbers then we continue this conversation.


Where do you get this myth that conservatives are 'denying people health care'???


YOU CANT SIGN UP FOR INSURANCE IF YOU GOT A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON GETS DENIED BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY.



Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
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Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: dario73 on November 14, 2013, 11:11:37 AM

YOU CANT SIGN UP FOR INSURANCE IF YOU GOT A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON GETS DENIED BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY.


That is BS. HEALTHCARE IS NEVER DENIED!

All states have some form of charity care that covers treatment. I know because my aunt who passed away from cancer had no insurance before she got sick AND she was covered under that program.

One more thing.

THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE NOW WHOSE POLICY HAS BEEN CANCELLED BECAUSE OF CRAPCARE THAN ARE DENIED INSURANCE FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.

Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 14, 2013, 11:12:03 AM

YOU CANT SIGN UP FOR INSURANCE IF YOU GOT A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON GETS DENIED BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY.


Really?
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 14, 2013, 11:25:11 AM
That is BS. HEALTHCARE IS NEVER DENIED!

All states have some form of charity care that covers treatment. I know because my aunt who passed away from cancer had no insurance before she got sick AND she was covered under that program.

Sure they do ::)


One more thing.

THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE NOW WHOSE POLICY HAS BEEN CANCELLED BECAUSE OF CRAPCARE THAN ARE DENIED INSURANCE FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.

Source or GTFO

Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: headhuntersix on November 14, 2013, 11:30:59 AM


Yeah..yeah they do. You can get a medical card for your kids in most states...its welfare but you can get it based on income.
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 14, 2013, 04:16:06 PM
Yeah..yeah they do. You can get a medical card for your kids in most states...its welfare but you can get it based on income.

The uninsured who gets treathment (and the fact that people postphone doctor visits because of finances) is a huge burden on the system.

Wait its not according to you two because they can get a medical card ???
Title: Re: Neocons, Right Wingers, tea baggers said Obamacare would be a train wreck...
Post by: whork on November 14, 2013, 04:17:17 PM
Yeah..yeah they do. You can get a medical card for your kids in most states...its welfare but you can get it based on income.

So why do people have insurance then?

Seems redundant, no?