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We're relocating to Calif concurrently to this (family, just not happy in Omaha), and am applying to MULTIPLE graduate programs. Started out online with Capella, Walden, but figured they may not get me to the ultimate goal- practicing psychologist specialization in Forensic Psychology. Working on apps to
Chicago School of Prof Psych (this also is going well), Calif Inst of Integral Studies-also in good so far, started Alliant and Fielding. Any one in the field, in the know or in the state have any knowledge or insights into the above. (Mid career adult learner). Bodybuilding related because I am recovering from surgery and have not be able to train heavy, enabling me to focus on real life. The O title isnt a real good possibility now. ;)
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Good luck with that.
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This is a great site to ask for Grad school advice.
Maybe stick with your current janitor position.
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Lol. Janitor???
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Try Wright State in Dayton, Ohio they have a good Psy D program, went there for undergrad. In Cali could try UCLA. My brother does research at Cal Tech.
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^ what this guy said.
Pro tip: always take advice from a guy with screen name "tren4life" or something similar.
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I got stronger overall each year from age 16 to 20, again from 26-29, from 31-53.
Recession proof job [security]. I started doing it when the economy faltered. Along with my PT and tutoring for nice extra money. Grossing 3 k a month for 44 hours total a week.
Am I correct in ascertaining that you're 50+ years old and work security? How long ago were you an undergrad? Did you even study psychology? Why would any reputable PhD program -- all with a limited number of slots and rife with applications from students from universities around the world who know the current state of the literature and have demonstrated academic ability -- accept you? Why should they?
Sorry, but it isn't going to happen -- disabuse yourself of this entirely unrealistic notion. At best, you may be able to get into a MA program that serves as a stepping stone into a PhD program somewhere or other.
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Am I correct in understanding that you're 50+ years old and are a PT? How long ago were you an undergrad? Why would any reputable PhD program -- all with a limited number of slots and rife with applications from students from elite universities around the world who know the current state of the literature and have demonstrated academic ability -- accept you? Why should they?
Sorry, but it isn't going to happen -- disabuse yourself of this entirely unrealistic notion. At best, you may be able to get into a MA program that serves as a stepping stone into a PhD program somewhere or other.
Not true. I know of a nurse, who after 30 years of practice, went back for a PhD in another discipline. Its entirely possible, depending on the person.
I know quite a few people in their 40's who are going back for their PhDs.
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Not true. I know of a nurse, who after 30 years of practice, went back for a PhD in another discipline. Its entirely possible, depending on the person.
I know quite a few people in their 40's who are going back for their PhDs.
Listen you uppity cockmonger: I deduced from the available evidence that this particular applicant won't be accepted into a reputable PhD program, not that no one of a ripe age can, ever. The latter happens, albeit uncommonly.
It's also worth considering that there are a variety of shit programs with lax standards that one can matriculate into, though this bears on your point rather than mine.
If you ever challenge me again by burning straw formed in my visage, I will flex my 300 pound, rippling muscular physique, hack into government mainframes, and send a DHS predator drone to blow you out of your trailer.
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Listen you uppity cockmonger: I deduced from the available evidence that this particular applicant won't be accepted into a reputable PhD program, not that no one of a ripe age can, ever. The latter happens, albeit uncommonly.
It's also worth considering that there are a variety of shit programs with lax standards that one can matriculate into, though this bears on your point rather than mine.
If you ever challenge me again by burning straw formed in my visage, I will flex my 300 pound, rippling muscular physique, hack into government mainframes, and send a DHS predator drone to blow you out of your trailer.
I actually loled at the term "cockmonger."
And you're right, at his age, its highly unlikely that he will get into Harvard, UCLA, Columbia, etc. However, all he needs to do is attend an accredited program, go to an accredited internship and get licensed. However, getting a quality internship also depends on what school you go to. If he can get a quality predoc and postdoc internship then hes pretty much set to go.
As long as he knows what he is getting into.
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Am I correct in ascertaining that you're 50+ years old and work security? How long ago were you an undergrad? Did you even study psychology? Why would any reputable PhD program -- all with a limited number of slots and rife with applications from students from universities around the world who know the current state of the literature and have demonstrated academic ability -- accept you? Why should they?
Sorry, but it isn't going to happen -- disabuse yourself of this entirely unrealistic notion. At best, you may be able to get into a MA program that serves as a stepping stone into a PhD program somewhere or other.
I have a BA in Psychology and an MEd in Education in Cross Cultural teaching graduated with honors. Already got accepted into two of the programs. Have 4 more total going. Trying to ascertain the best fit. Oh the Security job- It's at Google. Your syntaxmachine broke.
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I actually loled at the term "cockmonger."
And you're right, at his age, its highly unlikely that he will get into Harvard, UCLA, Columbia, etc. However, all he needs to do is attend an accredited program, go to an accredited internship and get licensed. However, getting a quality internship also depends on what school you go to. If he can get a quality predoc and postdoc internship then hes pretty much set to go.
As long as he knows what he is getting into.
EXACTLY. Not trying to get into those places. Not 24 anymore. But my ex counselor went back for her PsyD and got it at 40. She is now charging $150 an hour.
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EXACTLY. Not trying to get into those places. Not 24 anymore. But my ex counselor went back for her PsyD and got it at 40. She is now charging $150 an hour.
Hey - I see you followed through to get your blue stars. Good job
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Hey - I see you followed through to get your blue stars. Good job
Thanks! I usually finish what I start.
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Thanks! I usually finish what I start.
Hey, I'd say if you getting those blue stars is any indication...lol...I remember when you asked me about it a while back, and I told you to email the guy on the homepage. I didn't expect to see you with the stars so quickly.
So that says you mean business. I think you will get what you're looking for when it comes to the topic of this thread.
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I have a BA in Psychology and an MEd in Education in Cross Cultural teaching graduated with honors. Already got accepted into two of the programs. Have 4 more total going. Trying to ascertain the best fit. Oh the Security job- It's at Google. Your syntaxmachine broke.
1. Why wouldn't you include this information in your OP so that we could make a fairer assessment? That said, my evaluation remains fundamentally unchanged.
2. You got into a couple of "online colleges." Congratulations. That is entirely consistent with my analysis, since -- as I said -- there will always be shitty for-profit institutions ready to accept applicants, given that the demand is there. Anyone who equivocates between online-only programs and actual reputable programs is either terribly ignorant or trying to mislead.
3. Security is security.
4. All of this said, I'm simply trying to provide a realistic perspective, not attack you. Go ahead and survey PhD/PsyD holders in your field about the nature of online programs and one's prospects having graduated from one, or about where that will place you relative others in the field.
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1. Why wouldn't you include this information in your OP so that we could make a fairer assessment? That said, my evaluation remains fundamentally unchanged.
2. You got into a couple of "online colleges." Congratulations. That is entirely consistent with my analysis, since -- as I said -- there will always be shitty for-profit institutions ready to accept applicants, given that the demand is there. Anyone who equivocates between online-only programs and actual reputable programs is either terribly ignorant or trying to mislead.
3. Security is security.
4. All of this said, I'm simply trying to provide a realistic perspective, not attack you. Go ahead and survey PhD/PsyD holders in your field about the nature of online programs and one's prospects having graduated from one, or about where that will place you relative others in the field.
Syntatx machine, you come bearing great knowledge. And I agree, that online programs are looked down upon. Secondly, if he attends an online program, he will most likely not got an APA accredited internship, which will disqualify him automatically from government based jobs and most university based hospitals. Government will not under any circumstances hire someone without an APA internship. And most university based hospitals are associated with APA approved programs and will only take people with APA internships for a job. That's the thing, even if you go to a shitty program, but you land an awesome APA internship, you will find a job somewhere. But most APA internships are so competitive, that they will not even look at someone from an online school.
Intenceman, I am not knocking you, but this is the truth.
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The institutions I have applied to are in order- Capella, Walden, Chicago School of Professional Psychology, , California Institute of Integral Studies, Fielding Graduate Insitute and Alliant International University. The first four have accepted my application. Waiting on the last 2. Then see what happens and take the best one. Thats all one can do.
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Intenceman...what is the story behind the way your name is spelled?
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Intenceman...what is the story behind the way your name is spelled?
Old AOL screename. Was sort of a play on words. Just sort of stuck. I can spell-lol!
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Good luck with that.
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^ what this guy said.
Pro tip: always take advice from a guy with screen name "tren4life" or something similar.
rofl
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Listen you uppity cockmonger: I deduced from the available evidence that this particular applicant won't be accepted into a reputable PhD program, not that no one of a ripe age can, ever. The latter happens, albeit uncommonly.
It's also worth considering that there are a variety of shit programs with lax standards that one can matriculate into, though this bears on your point rather than mine.
If you ever challenge me again by burning straw formed in my visage, I will flex my 300 pound, rippling muscular physique, hack into government mainframes, and send a DHS predator drone to blow you out of your trailer.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Old AOL screename. Was sort of a play on words. Just sort of stuck. I can spell-lol!
It might give the wrong impression...if your name is linked with it (and I know it is because I looked)
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Wrong impression to whom? Strangers? I dont put it on school applications or research papers, online is a game, an escape- like television which I no longer watch.
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Wrong impression to whom? Strangers? I dont put it on school applications or research papers, online is a game, an escape- like television which I no longer watch.
If someone searches your name, it is linked with the handle....hard
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Nothing wrong with taking on a different first name...lol...I'm sure many people have done that for things like this..it could make the difference for you
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Huh?
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Huh?
Are you concerned about someone, anyone, linking you with a handle that looks like a really dumb guy owns it? Because if you're not, then don't worry about it.
If you ARE concerned...then maybe before you try to make any big advances forward, you should at least alter your first name to result in a web search that does not involve a handle/screenname that looks like the owner is a dumb guy (because i really don't think you are dumb)
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Dude, people will be searching your name left and right...the misspelled handle will jump out at them, and it can't be good...lose the association with it NOW
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Step one, email the guy on the home page and ask him to switch the c for an s...he'll do that for you.
It's all in the details
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Let it go, Stalkie McStalkins.
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Let it go, Stalkie McStalkins.
Do you think it's bad advice, Hillbilly?
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Idk, I never found the time to complete my dissertation.
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Idk, I never found the time to complete my dissertation.
Well let's not stand in the way of others.
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Didn't mean to sound harsh last night, IM.
I know you had to play with the spelling to get your AOL handle back then...I understand that because you told me...but I don't think you'll have the opportunity to explain that to most people, because it will destroy the opportunity before it even arises. That's all I'm saying bro...I know you're a smart dude by your comments here (right on with the JFK thread btw)
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Forget about it.
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Just got accepted into the PhD program at Chicago School of Professional Psychology. 20 minutes after my interview! Yeah Buddy! (3/5 so far - 2 pending, but I am going with this one- specialty in Forensic Clinical Psychology).
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No offense, but if you really want a doctorate why don't u just go to a legit university that happens to have a doctorate program in psychology. This place sounds like a federal loan scam.
Its fully regionally accredited-and recognized for licensing by the State of California- where the campus I am attending is.
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My old therapist went there and now charges $150 an hour after earning her doctorate. Thats all I need :)
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Getbig should start an online degree program.
Think of all the knowledges we could share
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So? Plumbers and car mechanics charge $150 an hour where I am. Plus, how many "patient" hours do u need to bill at $150 an hour to make a profit? What is your overhead going to be? Are u just going to hang out your own shingle and wait for the nuts to start coming in or do u have some other marketing strategy? Legit medical professionals sometimes have difficulty getting patients.
Also, how much debt are u going to have to take on to earn this "degree"? What is the opportunity cost involved?
I hope that u have this well thought out and are not just some simpleton who will simply go into unimaginable debt in pursuit of a worthless degree. Even if u are, I still wish u the best.
Lots of opportunities for PSYds in Calif. Far more than MEds in Nebraska. I have zero debt from my first two degrees.
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I have a PhD in Clinical Psychology. I attended a large university, and my tuition was waived and I received a stipend for the first five years in exchange for whatever I was assigned (mostly teaching undergrad classes, but also some practica). My salary doubled during my residency year, and that only brought me up to $26,000 (before insurance and taxes). Even with my stipends, a grant, and annual scholarships, I did not escape debt free. I don't know many people who do. Moonlighting was prohibited in my program. The stipend helps, and it's one of the advantages of APA-accredited PhD programs, but from what I understand PsyD programs can be pretty costly.
Though you previous therapist made $150 per hour, that statement is an oversimplification. I'm sure you're aware of the costs incurred as a psychologist in private practice - space, billing, liability insurance - as well as the substantial time it can take to build up a client base. That being said, good luck to you!!! :) :)
A visit to the studentdoctor forums would probably be helpful if you're hoping to get information (as opposed to opinions or feedback on your decision).
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Bambita...Were you lurking before? How did you find this thread/forum? Seems weird that someone would make a first post like that.
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Bambita...Were you lurking before? How did you find this thread/forum? Seems weird that someone would make a first post like that.
Yes, I've lurked this forum for awhile :) I haven't felt the need to comment on anything before; this just happened to be something I thought I'd address in case it helped the OP.
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