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What conspiracy theory do you subscribe to? I'm going with the Mortal Error theory - a hungover secret service accidentally did it.
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What conspiracy theory do you subscribe to? I'm going with the Mortal Error theory - a hungover secret service accidentally did it.
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Johnny Falcon Kenneth is a far out subject better left to the experts young lady
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http://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Killed-Kennedy-Against/dp/1626363137/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1384270166&sr=1-6&keywords=jfk+assassination
Publication Date: November 4, 2013 | ISBN-10: 1626363137 | ISBN-13: 978-1626363137 | Edition: 1
Find out how and why LBJ had JFK assassinated.
What does legendary political operative Roger Stone know that historians Robert Caro and Robert Dallek do not know? He knows that Lyndon Johnson murdered President John F. Kennedy. Combining decades of insider political knowledge with cutting edge JFK assassination research, Roger Stone lays out the case that Lyndon Johnson manipulated the situation in Dallas on November 22, 1963, and murdered Kennedy as he murdered numerous other victims along the way. LBJ was not just shooting his way into the White House, he was avoiding political ruin and prosecution and jail for corruption at the hands of the Kennedy's.
The case against LBJ has long been sitting in plain sight, and in The Man Who Killed Kennedy, you will find out all the details you weren't supposed to know:
The amoral psychopath detailed in Robert Caro’s earlier volumes.
The mutual hatred between the Kennedy's and Lyndon Johnson.
The discredited Warren Report.
The early murders committed by LBJ on the path to power
The Dallas connections; as well as LBJ’s epic mental instabilities.
Political consultant, strategist, and Libertarian Roger Stone has gathered documents and used his firsthand knowledge to construct the ultimate tome to prove that LBJ was not only involved in JFK’s assassination, but was in fact the mastermind.
With 2013 being the fiftieth anniversary of JFK’s assassination, this is the perfect time for The Man Who Killed Kennedy to be available to readers. The research and information in this book is unprecedented, and as Roger Stone lived through it, he’s the perfect person to bring it to everyone’s attention.
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Oswald definitely did it on his own, but no one knows for sure if he was commanded by somebody to do it or not.
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What did JFK bench and did he look good in a thong? This is the real question.
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aliens or gh15elfs
why jkf there been other usa presidents killed and noone cares
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People need some Grand explanation or conspiracy theory to justify how some worm loser like Oswald was able to take out the most powerful man in the world and one of the more charismatic presidents in United States history. They have a hard time grasping with the idea that the world can be THAT chaotic.
But almost 50 years ago that is exactly what happened. It just aligned up in that fashion. Oswald was able to get to the 6th floor of that building and was a pretty good shot with a rifle....Kennedy never should have bden rolling around with his top down and that basically sums it up.
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People need some Grand explanation or conspiracy theory to justify how some worm loser like Oswald was able to take out the most powerful man in the world and one of the more charismatic presidents in United States history. They have a hard time grasping with the idea that the world can be THAT chaotic.
But almost 50 years ago that is exactly what happened. It just aligned up in that fashion. Oswald was able to get to the 6th floor of that building and was a pretty good shot with a rifle....Kennedy never should have bden rolling around with his top down and that basically sums it up.
Exactly, the more interesting part is whether he was brainwashed by somebody to do it.
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What did JFK bench and did he look good in a thong? This is the real question.
Unlikely
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/19/article-2467471-18D85B8300000578-275_634x574.jpg)
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People need some Grand explanation or conspiracy theory to justify how some worm loser like Oswald was able to take out the most powerful man in the world and one of the more charismatic presidents in United States history. They have a hard time grasping with the idea that the world can be THAT chaotic.
But almost 50 years ago that is exactly what happened. It just aligned up in that fashion. Oswald was able to get to the 6th floor of that building and was a pretty good shot with a rifle....Kennedy never should have bden rolling around with his top down and that basically sums it up.
and other 50 years earlier some lunatic anarchist killed a president too
such things happen.
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People need some Grand explanation or conspiracy theory to justify how some worm loser like Oswald was able to take out the most powerful man in the world and one of the more charismatic presidents in United States history. They have a hard time grasping with the idea that the world can be THAT chaotic.
But almost 50 years ago that is exactly what happened. It just aligned up in that fashion. Oswald was able to get to the 6th floor of that building and was a pretty good shot with a rifle....Kennedy never should have bden rolling around with his top down and that basically sums it up.
Thank you. This.
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4 shooters, military trained, mafia backed, then killed.
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He is still alive.
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and other 50 years earlier some lunatic anarchist killed a president too
such things happen.
I think this scenario is a helluva lot more believable than any of these other drummed up theories.
Crazy shit happens in life all the time.
Some people want to say the mafia was involved. From the 1960s to damn near modern day the mafia has been decimated by Bosses, Captains and common thug underlings coming forward and ratting on each other to save their own necks and NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON involved with organized crime has come forward with one shred of information pertaining to the assassination of John F Kennedy.
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I think this scenario is a helluva lot more believable than any of these other drummed up theories.
Crazy shit happens in life all the time.
Some people want to say the mafia was involved. From the 1960s to damn near modern day the mafia has been decimated by Bosses, Captains and common thug underlings coming forward and ratting on each other to save their own necks and NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON involved with organized crime has come forward with one shred of information pertaining to the assassination of John F Kennedy.
JFKs father had dealings with the mafia, and apparently went to them to help JFK get into office. Both JFK and brother were trying to shutdown the mafia---and at a time when La Vegas was starting to boom as well. Forgot the boss' name but, he was real pissed at Kennedy's...I wouldn't put it out that there was a collusion of parties.
I mean, JFK, his brother, Malcolm X, Martin, all powerful and influential men gone during the 60s? There are some powerful parties responsible.
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and other 50 years earlier some lunatic anarchist killed a president too
such things happen.
Yep. Leon Czolgoz walked straight up to President McKinley and blasted him the torso like it was a walk in the park.
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Unlikely
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/19/article-2467471-18D85B8300000578-275_634x574.jpg)
No gut, though.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099498-11AC8E59000005DC-305_308x681.jpg)
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JFKs father had dealings with the mafia, and apparently went to them to help JFK get into office. Both JFK and brother were trying to shutdown the mafia---and at a time when La Vegas was starting to boom as well. Forgot the boss' name but, he was real pissed at Kennedy's...I wouldn't put it out that there was a collusion of parties.
I mean, JFK, his brother, Malcolm X, Martin, all powerful and influential men gone during the 60s? There are some powerful parties responsible.
Tony Saprano had nothing to do with this.
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Derek Anthony 's great uncle
Sol Rubenstein Vinny 'toots' Gambonetti ordered the hit.
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JFKs father had dealings with the mafia, and apparently went to them to help JFK get into office. Both JFK and brother were trying to shutdown the mafia---and at a time when La Vegas was starting to boom as well. Forgot the boss' name but, he was real pissed at Kennedy's...I wouldn't put it out that there was a collusion of parties.
I mean, JFK, his brother, Malcolm X, Martin, all powerful and influential men gone during the 60s? There are some powerful parties responsible.
Parker, as a resident of DFW my entire life I have literally seen with my own eyes that area where Kennedy was capped and from that 6th floor down to the street really isn't that far. You just come away thinking "Meh, it was a decent shot, but nothing special"
And when you think about expert sharpshooters like Chris Kyle who have literally been able to dust off a couple hundred people from long distances?? If this Mafia was SO damn powerful and wanted THE PRESIDENT gone why did they send a guy like Oswald in there who almost fucked it up by needing 3? shots from such a short distance?? That's the BEST they could do??
I'll stick with my theory that a "pretty decent" shot like Oswald(which his military sharpshooter test records prove) needed multiple shots from a short distance rather than that being the best the 1960s mafia could put in place.
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Parker, as a resident of DFW my entire life I have literally seen with my own eyes that area where Kennedy was capped and from that 6th floor down to the street really isn't that far. You just come away thinking "Meh, it was a decent shot, but nothing special"
And when you think about expert sharpshooters like Chris Kyle who have literally been able to dust off a couple hundred people from long distances?? If this Mafia was SO damn powerful and wanted THE PRESIDENT gone why did they send a guy like Oswald in there who almost fucked it up by needing 3? shots from such a short distance?? That's the BEST they could do??
I'll stick with my theory that a "pretty decent" shot like Oswald(which his military sharpshooter test records prove) needed multiple shots from a short distance rather than that being the best the 1960s mafia could put in place.
Here is my thing...Oswald would have been a world class sprinter to pull off the shot, run down those steps, etc...
Which is why the theory of 4 sharpshooters.
Also, motive. What was Oswald motive? What would be the Mafia's motive...and the Fed government. Two power factions.
To me, I don't think the Mafia would want to go it alone on such a big job, and the Feds wouldn't want their hands to be too dirty...
With JFK gone, what policies changed?
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Mafia motive is often claimed to be: revenge and self preservation after he reneged on help they gave getting him elected and instead went after them and promised to destroy them.
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Here is my thing...Oswald would have been a world class sprinter to pull off the shot, run down those steps, etc...
Which is why the theory of 4 sharpshooters.
Also, motive. What was Oswald motive? What would be the Mafia's motive...and the Fed government. Two power factions.
To me, I don't think the Mafia would want to go it alone on such a big job, and the Feds wouldn't want their hands to be too dirty...
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With JFK gone, what policies changed?
there was a pretty good article in the WSJ recently about Oswald. He was a pretty troubled young man and a loner. Had alot of angst and had some radical political leanings. Spent some time in the Soviet Union looking to become a citizen but it wasn't the answer he was looking for. Made a serious attempt to kill himself while in the USSR. He was put up in a town that was created exclusivley for people who were political liabilities. The town was made up almost fake. Set up so nothing could go "wrong" and everyone was filmed kind of like the truman show. When he finally came back to the states he was totally lost as a person.
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Here is my thing...Oswald would have been a world class sprinter to pull off the shot, run down those steps, etc...
Which is why the theory of 4 sharpshooters.
Also, motive. What was Oswald motive? What would be the Mafia's motive...and the Fed government. Two power factions.
To me, I don't think the Mafia would want to go it alone on such a big job, and the Feds wouldn't want their hands to be too dirty...
With JFK gone, what policies changed?
Lol, this is complete nonsense, so the faked bullet wounds the government would have needed to map from the autopsy to cover up your scenario,exactly match the results of computer simulations 50 years after the shooting, with the angle and position of the 6th floor of the book depository, the wounds and blast patterns the shots from there would have created....with no possible way the shots could have come from anywhere else...
I guess the guy who gave Oswald a lift to work that morning and asked Oswald what was in the 3 foot long brown paper bag he was carrying, and Oswald replied that they were curtain rods was mistaken?
I guess Oswald left his wedding ring and all his money at home that morning for fun?
I guess the multiple witnesses who saw Oswald fire the 3 shots from the 6th floor, and this how they were able to get his description out were wrong?
I guess the fact the majority of the witnesses described all 3 shots from the book depository were wrong?
I guess Oswalds palm print on the boxes used to make the snipers nest, palm print on the rifle in the book depository, laying next to the 3 bullet cases were a mistake?
I guess after Oswald murdered officer tippet after the shooting when he tried to stop him, then tried to shoot the officers who arrested him with the same gun in the cinema were all mistaken?
The evidence is overwhelming for a single shooter,Oswald did it alone.
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Here is my thing...Oswald would have been a world class sprinter to pull off the shot, run down those steps, etc...
Which is why the theory of 4 sharpshooters.
Also, motive. What was Oswald motive? What would be the Mafia's motive...and the Fed government. Two power factions.
To me, I don't think the Mafia would want to go it alone on such a big job, and the Feds wouldn't want their hands to be too dirty...
With JFK gone, what policies changed?
As far as motive to kill a president goes, Do you realize how many people would gladly put a .45 to Obamas head and pull the trigger? Or George Bush? Hell, going all the way back to George Washington, The President of The United States is one of the most wanted men in the world.
Concerning Oswald, he was a known communist sympathizer who tried to defect and I believe there is even video footage of him passing out Communist propaganda. I'm pretty sure he was working at that building before the motorcade route was even planned to go down in the street out front. And when it all just came together that Kennedy was going to be going that way he took his shot. Again, it's a bit of a coincidence that all this went down like this but life just works out that way sometimes.
I find this explanation much more believe than the powerful 1960's Mafia and/or CIA sending a pretty average shot like Oswald rather than sending a legit badass who would have finished it in one shot, game over, no questions asked.
And as far as Oswald fleeing the scene, from what I remember there were multiple suspects rounded up shortly after the shooting. One man as far as riverside in Fort Worth which is around 25 miles away so they were looking for anybody and everybody at that point. But then again I think those were just known criminal type guys in the area that Joe Cop just slapped the cuffs on and brought in "just in case" rather than having any real evidence
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uh...The US Government actually believes it was a conspiracy.
"The United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) was established in 1976 to investigate the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. The Committee investigated until 1978 and issued its final report, and concluded that Kennedy was very likely assassinated as a result of a conspiracy."
Here's another interesting read for those who love the status quo: FBI says "there is no hard evidence that Osama was connected with Sept 11th attacks." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm
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People need some Grand explanation or conspiracy theory to justify how some worm loser like Oswald was able to take out the most powerful man in the world and one of the more charismatic presidents in United States history. They have a hard time grasping with the idea that the world can be THAT chaotic.
But almost 50 years ago that is exactly what happened. It just aligned up in that fashion. Oswald was able to get to the 6th floor of that building and was a pretty good shot with a rifle....Kennedy never should have bden rolling around with his top down and that basically sums it up.
Yep.
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uh...The US Government actually believes it was a conspiracy.
"The United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) was established in 1976 to investigate the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. The Committee investigated until 1978 and issued its final report, and concluded that Kennedy was very likely assassinated as a result of a conspiracy."
Here's another interesting read for those who love the status quo: FBI says "there is no hard evidence that Osama was connected with Sept 11th attacks." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm
They based the fact it was a conspiracy on recordings from an officers motorcycle, they realised a few years later their conclusion was wrong as the recording was taken no where near where they thought it was initially, changing where the shots came from.
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JFK had too much of a social conscience, started talking too much. The psychopaths at the top had his mouth shut. Permanently. Same with Robert to a degree. Edward was too corrupt and complacent to be a threat.
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No gut, though.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-2099498-11AC8E59000005DC-305_308x681.jpg)
13 inch pipe cleaners, sunken bird chest, and chicken legs. What a pussy
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JFKs father had dealings with the mafia, and apparently went to them to help JFK get into office. Both JFK and brother were trying to shutdown the mafia---and at a time when La Vegas was starting to boom as well. Forgot the boss' name but, he was real pissed at Kennedy's...I wouldn't put it out that there was a collusion of parties.
I mean, JFK, his brother, Malcolm X, Martin, all powerful and influential men gone during the 60s? There are some powerful parties responsible.
Santo Trafficante out of Florida and Sam Giancana from Chicago.
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Concerning Oswald, he was a known communist sympathizer who tried to defect and I believe there is even video footage of him passing out Communist propaganda. I'm pretty sure he was working at that building before the motorcade route was even planned to go down in the street out front. And when it all just came together that Kennedy was going to be going that way he took his shot. Again, it's a bit of a coincidence that all this went down like this but life just works out that way sometimes.
Sounds like an ideal patsy.
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Oswald wasn't an expert shooter and expert riflemen from the US Army have failed to duplicate the speed and accuracy of the supposed shots during simulated experiments:
http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-harvey-oswald-marksman-sharpshooter READ IT
Simulating the JFK Assassination
For the benefit of the Warren Commission, expert riflemen from the US Army and the FBI attempted to duplicate the assassin’s task, using the rifle that had been discovered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
Even after fixing some of the gun’s mechanical problems, and despite firing at stationary targets from an easier vantage point, they failed to achieve the combination of accuracy and speed demanded of the lone gunman: two hits out of three, within about six seconds (see Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.446 and pp.403–10).
Oswald’s Marine Rifle Marksmanship Scores
In the late 1950s, US Marines were categorised at three levels of shooting ability, according to the scores they achieved at a standardised test of their accuracy:
Expert: a score of 220 to 250.
Sharpshooter: 210 to 219.
Marksman: 190 to 209.
According to his Marine score card (Commission Exhibit 239), Oswald was tested twice:
In December 1956, after “a very intensive 3 weeks’ training period” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.11, p.302), Oswald scored 212: two marks above the minimum for a ‘sharpshooter’.
In May 1959, he scored 191: one mark above the minimum for a ‘marksman’.
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Not bodybuilding related. Mods please move this thread to where it belongs.
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Not bodybuilding related. Mods please move this thread to where it belongs.
He was hooked on painkillers = bodybuilding related.
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Yep. Leon Czolgoz walked straight up to President McKinley and blasted him the torso like it was a walk in the park.
Yeah well President McKinley owned the tiny tit Czolgoz by acting as if being shot was a walk in the park.
The President tried to convince Cortelyou he was not seriously injured, but blood was visible as he tried to expose his injury. Seeing the pummeling being taken by Czolgosz, McKinley ordered it stopped
After stopping the beating of Czolgosz, McKinley's next concern was for his wife, urging Cortelyou to take care how she was told of the shooting.
Foster(Agent) rode with him on the way to the fair's hospital. On the way there, McKinley felt in his clothing and came out with a metal object.
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hickey shot him?
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http://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Killed-Kennedy-Against/dp/1626363137/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1384270166&sr=1-6&keywords=jfk+assassination
Publication Date: November 4, 2013 | ISBN-10: 1626363137 | ISBN-13: 978-1626363137 | Edition: 1
Find out how and why LBJ had JFK assassinated.
What does legendary political operative Roger Stone know that historians Robert Caro and Robert Dallek do not know? He knows that Lyndon Johnson murdered President John F. Kennedy. Combining decades of insider political knowledge with cutting edge JFK assassination research, Roger Stone lays out the case that Lyndon Johnson manipulated the situation in Dallas on November 22, 1963, and murdered Kennedy as he murdered numerous other victims along the way. LBJ was not just shooting his way into the White House, he was avoiding political ruin and prosecution and jail for corruption at the hands of the Kennedy's.
The case against LBJ has long been sitting in plain sight, and in The Man Who Killed Kennedy, you will find out all the details you weren't supposed to know:
The amoral psychopath detailed in Robert Caro’s earlier volumes.
The mutual hatred between the Kennedy's and Lyndon Johnson.
The discredited Warren Report.
The early murders committed by LBJ on the path to power
The Dallas connections; as well as LBJ’s epic mental instabilities.
Political consultant, strategist, and Libertarian Roger Stone has gathered documents and used his firsthand knowledge to construct the ultimate tome to prove that LBJ was not only involved in JFK’s assassination, but was in fact the mastermind.
With 2013 being the fiftieth anniversary of JFK’s assassination, this is the perfect time for The Man Who Killed Kennedy to be available to readers. The research and information in this book is unprecedented, and as Roger Stone lived through it, he’s the perfect person to bring it to everyone’s attention.
C'Mon man labron James wasn't even born yet
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What did JFK bench and did he look good in a thong? This is the real question.
he was on several cobers of MB back in the day.
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IF you want the REAL story, watch this:
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Its over 50 years ago who gives a damn? He was a shit president anyway.
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Its over 50 years ago who gives a damn? He was a shit president anyway.
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You ever heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis??
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Anyone else think it's weird that nobody(atleast publicly) has tried to take out our sitting Pres? I tend to think that maybe it's happened a few times and they just won't go public with the information for whatever reason.
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I do NOT buy it.
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Nope, Warren Commission was a joke!
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Ok - I am open minded - what is the best evidence that Oswald was not the lone gunman
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Jesse Ventura on Fox News
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Ok - I am open minded - what is the best evidence that Oswald was not the lone gunman
Isn't there evidence that he was shot from multiple angles?
Where does the secret service get off stealing his body from Dallas? They should have grounded Air Force One.
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Isn't there evidence that he was shot from multiple angles?
Where does the secret service get off stealing his body from Dallas? They should have grounded Air Force One.
Bugliosi presents a very good argument. Im open to anything.
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Bugliosi presents a very good argument. Im open to anything.
If the Feds didn't pull shit like stealing Kennedy's body, or locking down ground zero and shipping the crime scene to China we would have more answers.
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If the Feds didn't pull shit like stealing Kennedy's body, or locking down ground zero and shipping the crime scene to China we would have more answers.
No doubt - but there needs to be a alternative theory that stands up to evidence and can be defended
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Bugliosi presents a very good argument. Im open to anything.
Mark Fuhrman wrote a book on it, too. Investigated the assassination as he would any other crime. He came to the same conclusion.
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http://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Killed-Kennedy-Against/dp/1626363137/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1384270166&sr=1-6&keywords=jfk+assassination
The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ [Hardcover]
Roger Stone (Author), Mike Colapietro (Contributor)
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Find out how and why LBJ had JFK assassinated.
What does legendary political operative Roger Stone know that historians Robert Caro and Robert Dallek do not know? He knows that Lyndon Johnson murdered President John F. Kennedy. Combining decades of insider political knowledge with cutting edge JFK assassination research, Roger Stone lays out the case that Lyndon Johnson manipulated the situation in Dallas on November 22, 1963, and murdered Kennedy as he murdered numerous other victims along the way. LBJ was not just shooting his way into the White House, he was avoiding political ruin and prosecution and jail for corruption at the hands of the Kennedy's.
The case against LBJ has long been sitting in plain sight, and in The Man Who Killed Kennedy, you will find out all the details you weren't supposed to know:
The amoral psychopath detailed in Robert Caro’s earlier volumes.
The mutual hatred between the Kennedy's and Lyndon Johnson.
The discredited Warren Report.
The early murders committed by LBJ on the path to power
The Dallas connections; as well as LBJ’s epic mental instabilities.
Political consultant, strategist, and Libertarian Roger Stone has gathered documents and used his firsthand knowledge to construct the ultimate tome to prove that LBJ was not only involved in JFK’s assassination, but was in fact the mastermind.
With 2013 being the fiftieth anniversary of JFK’s assassination, this is the perfect time for The Man Who Killed Kennedy to be available to readers. The research and information in this book is unprecedented, and as Roger Stone lived through it, he’s the perfect person to bring it to everyone’s attention.
Review
“Startling.
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“GREAT book, you have it covered very well.
” (Phil Nelson, author of LBJ: The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination)
“Stone's evidence is compelling and fascinating.
” (Dick Morris, political author, commentator and consultant)
“Roger Stone nails LBJ for JFK murder!” (James O' Keefe III, journalist, filmmaker)
“Any serious student of politics or history should read Roger Stone's stunning new book The Man Who Killed Kennedy.
” (Judge Andrew P. Napolitano)
“America's biggest cover-up exposed after 50 years!” (The Globe)
“Stone may be right . . . .” (Kirkus Reviews)
“Bombshell new evidence!” (National Enquirer)
“After 50 years, Stone exposes the truth-LBJ did it.” (Florida Courant)
“Backs up the bombshell claim of President Lyndon B. Johnson's former mistress, that LBJ was the power-crazed mastermind behind the assassination of the man he replaced in the White House, John F. Kennedy!” (National Examiner)
“LBJ had Kennedy killed.” (Daily Caller)
“LBJ was far more evil, ruthless and unbalanced than we were told.” (South Florida Post)
“Explosive!” (Radaronline.com)
“Lively!” (Texas Monthly)
“Groundbreaking.” (East Orlando Post)
“Stone's book will change American history forever!” (Robert Morrow, historian)
About the Author
Roger Stone is not only a political consultant, strategist, and lobbyist, but is also the man credited with taking down New York Governor, Eliot Spitzer. He has been involved in politics since his teenage and college years, , and served as a senior staffer in eight national Republican Presidential Campaigns including those of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. Stone is also credited with the destruction of the national Reform party and the shut-down of 2000 recount that made George W. Bush President. In 2012 Stone joined the Libertarian Party. Aside from politics, he’s also known for his personal style, and writes the annual “Ten Best and Worst Dressed Men and Women in the World” column for the Huffington Post while serving a Men's Fashion Editor for the Daily Caller.
Mike Colapietro is an investigative journalist who received his bachelors from Eastern Connecticut State and masters from the University of South Florida. His work has appeared in the Tampa Bay Times, Smoke Magazine, and Yahoo.com.
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The LBJ Theory has always been to me the most likely considering the escalation in Vietnam and the massive expansion of the welfare state. JFK also was against the FEd Reserve
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JFK also was against the FEd Reserve
In that case, conspiracy is the only logical explanation (no 240 or bust).
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"Nixon recognized Jack Ruby as a "Lyndon Johnson man" from the 1940's who LBJ had place on the HUAC committee as a paid informant. That one blockbuster nugget is worth the price of admission for this book."
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Mark Fuhrman wrote a book on it, too. Investigated the assassination as he would any other crime. He came to the same conclusion.
Hmmm, was he with Vanity at the time he wrote the book?
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I do NOT trust the USA.
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I do NOT trust the USA.
^NEITHER do I.
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I do NOT trust the USA.
Neither do i - just like altenativr theories that can be supported
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I do NOT buy it.
Why? Was he not USMC?
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They asked me what I thought of that
Fuck off was all I said
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Why? Was he not USMC?
For LIFE
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Oswald acted alone.
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If you haven't seen this gotta watch! Conspiracy Theory, Jessie Ventura mostly Warren Commission!
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http://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Killed-Kennedy-Against/dp/1626363137/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1384270166&sr=1-6&keywords=jfk+assassination
The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ [Hardcover]
Roger Stone (Author), Mike Colapietro (Contributor)
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White House Insider on JFK Assassination: I Know Who Did It
November 22, 2013
White House insider Roger Stone moves beyond theory to explain how LBJ’s “personal hitman” was tied directly to JFK’s assassination.
Episode Duration: 01:39
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2 years ago I went to texas for work related training, and while there i visited the book depository building which is now an amazing museum. They still have the boxes set up by the window where oswald took the shot. I laid on the boxes and looked out the window at the large white x painted on the road where jfk was hit. It is not the miracle shot described in the kevin costner movie. I also laid down behind the bushes on the grassy knoll.....absolutely no way a shot was taken from there. Once you personally walk the crime scene it is brutally obvious oswald was alone. The conspiracies are retarded and for entertainment purposes. One man who hated america acted alone that day. Don't buy the bullshit....
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He was a barely a pizza box.
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The people of France assassinated Kennedy because he personally destroyed their excellent national phone system. Everybody knows this.
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He was a barely a pizza box.
Is that like a devildog nickname?
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Lucien Sarti killed JFK with rifle shot from picket fence dressed as Dallas policeman.
Confirmed by friends/associates Christian David and Michel Nicoli.
Confirmed by witness Mary Ann Moorman's polaroid picture.
Actual picture (colorized)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/r71x68.jpg)
Artist rendering to show detail
(http://i41.tinypic.com/33125wp.jpg)
The assassin
(http://i39.tinypic.com/118qh3q.jpg)
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I do NOT buy it.
Who cares? If you have the evidence to prove what really happen, I bet world want to see them.
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Nope, Warren Commission was a joke!
OK. Why don't you prove it? Are they joke because they didn't find those imaginary shooters? Do not worry, because they didn't find their shots, their bullets or their hits either. You want to hear my theory? Oswald was lone gunman, and they promise to him that he have clear escape, that they will help him to disappear. He need three shot to kill the president, and when he try to escape from the book deposit building, he realize he has been left behind to take the heat. That's why he was so irrational and claim to be patsy. And then they help him to disappear, to the bottom of the grave. Neat and simple.
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http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=6085.0;wap2
58 items ahowing oswald did it
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Went to the 50th memorial they held up yesterday morning , was quite an experience and emotional
Cold and raining though
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slow news day...no other stories on the news
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2 years ago I went to texas for work related training, and while there i visited the book depository building which is now an amazing museum. They still have the boxes set up by the window where oswald took the shot. I laid on the boxes and looked out the window at the large white x painted on the road where jfk was hit. It is not the miracle shot described in the kevin costner movie. I also laid down behind the bushes on the grassy knoll.....absolutely no way a shot was taken from there. Once you personally walk the crime scene it is brutally obvious oswald was alone. The conspiracies are retarded and for entertainment purposes. One man who hated america acted alone that day. Don't buy the bullshit....
I visited the site and thought just the opposite.
LHO must be one hell of a marksman, to make those shots from that window, that distance, downhill and at an angle from behind, into a moving car, using that rifle, that quickly. Seemed almost impossible to me.
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ask shock what a pizza box is in the usmc
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ask shock what a pizza box is in the usmc
It's either "At rifle qualification the lowest qualifying score is called Marksman. You are awarded a medal with a square target, affectionately called the Pizza Box."
Or he's one with the lot ..supreme no anchovies? ;)
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OK. Why don't you prove it? Are they joke because they didn't find those imaginary shooters? Do not worry, because they didn't find their shots, their bullets or their hits either. You want to hear my theory? Oswald was lone gunman, and they promise to him that he have clear escape, that they will help him to disappear. He need three shot to kill the president, and when he try to escape from the book deposit building, he realize he has been left behind to take the heat. That's why he was so irrational and claim to be patsy. And then they help him to disappear, to the bottom of the grave. Neat and simple.
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Any further explanation?
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People need some Grand explanation or conspiracy theory to justify how some worm loser like Oswald was able to take out the most powerful man in the world and one of the more charismatic presidents in United States history. They have a hard time grasping with the idea that the world can be THAT chaotic.
But almost 50 years ago that is exactly what happened. It just aligned up in that fashion. Oswald was able to get to the 6th floor of that building and was a pretty good shot with a rifle....Kennedy never should have bden rolling around with his top down and that basically sums it up.
This. Plus the fact Oswald was killed immediately after left a huge vacuum for all sorts of idiots to fill with their bilge.
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Any further explanation?
Bump for Ropo.
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Lucien Sarti killed JFK with rifle shot from picket fence dressed as Dallas policeman.
Confirmed by friends/associates Christian David and Michel Nicoli.
Confirmed by witness Mary Ann Moorman's polaroid picture.
Actual picture (colorized)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/r71x68.jpg)
Artist rendering to show detail
(http://i41.tinypic.com/33125wp.jpg)
The assassin
(http://i39.tinypic.com/118qh3q.jpg)
Lol, go look at the original pic they made this "finding" in, then go to Dealey Plaza and realise its so tiny this shooter would have been seen by tens of people.The JFK shooting is a huge cash cow, much more profitable to throw these wild conspiracies around and spend years getting paid at conventions, paid for writing books etc than to simply say it was Oswald.These kooks thrive on the small slice of celebrity they get in the warped circles they mix in.
Arrow on the right is the untouched "Badgeman" shot ::)
(http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071220032753/uncyclopedia/images/f/f7/Badgeman.jpg)
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See this guys:
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Lol, go look at the original pic they made this "finding" in, then go to Dealey Plaza and realise its so tiny this shooter would have been seen by tens of people.The JFK shooting is a huge cash cow, much more profitable to throw these wild conspiracies around and spend years getting paid at conventions, paid for writing books etc than to simply say it was Oswald.These kooks thrive on the small slice of celebrity they get in the warped circles they mix in.
Arrow on the right is the untouched "Badgeman" shot ::)
(http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071220032753/uncyclopedia/images/f/f7/Badgeman.jpg)
You'd be surprised how many of the researchers are highly educated people.
There is no doubt the image is small. That's why it went undiscovered until technology allowed it to be blown up.
The funny thing is that I can still see both of them pretty well in that small pic. 8)
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The funny thing about people who think it was Oswald is that now the consensus is that Oswald's first shot missed. :D
Yep, that's the consensus. I've been watching all the specials the last few weeks.
The lone shooter believers say that the first shot missed the car completely.
Say what? :o ??? ::)
Oswald had pulled the bolt back. He had aimed. He had time (and a better chance) to shoot Kennedy coming down Houston Street.
An easy shot. Nowhere for the car to go. If it accelerates forward, you have time for more shots. If it tries to back up, it smashes into the other cars in the motorcade.
Does Oswald shoot Kennedy coming down Houston Street?
Nope.
He waits. And waits. He waits for him to make a turn on Elm Street and begin accelerating away from him.
He now has to make a far more difficult shot, not to mention that he has to shoot through a tree (Texas live oak).
And now they say the first shot missed? The easiest of the bunch?
Too funny. ;D
So in a rush to get off shots two and three with a manual bolt action rifle that has widely been viewed as the single worst shoulder weapon ever made, he scores a throat shot (not to mention a two-for-one with it magically hitting Connolly), but a head shot on the third.
Yeah, right. ::)
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OK. Why don't you prove it? Are they joke because they didn't find those imaginary shooters? Do not worry, because they didn't find their shots, their bullets or their hits either. You want to hear my theory? Oswald was lone gunman, and they promise to him that he have clear escape, that they will help him to disappear. He need three shot to kill the president, and when he try to escape from the book deposit building, he realize he has been left behind to take the heat. That's why he was so irrational and claim to be patsy. And then they help him to disappear, to the bottom of the grave. Neat and simple.
Ropo, this is no disrespect to you at all because i have always kept you in the highest esteem as a poster but the biggest question I have with your theory is "WHY"?? And was Oswald the best they could do??
Why not send a better, world class shooter in?? One shot and done with a better escape route? They could have EASILY pulled it off. The police were literally pulling people in from as far away as Fort Worth. What was stopping Oswald jumping in a Mafia car a block from the scene and zooming away and without anybody being the wiser? The whole situation was just far too sloppy to suggest anything other than a loner with a decent shooting ability who had this opportunity given to him on a silver platter.
That plus the fact that not ONE person has come forward with slightest bit of info regarding the assassination of JFK just makes the argument of a lone gunman, who was the only person in on it, that much stronger.
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Jesse Ventura on Fox News
Jesse "The Brain Trust" Ventura, who is earning his paycheck by feeding this bullshit in ignorant Americans. "He is ex wrestler, he must be smart and intelligent"...nope. In fact he is as near an imbecile as you can be without the serious brain damage ;D
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You'd be surprised how many of the researchers are highly educated people.
There is no doubt the image is small. That's why it went undiscovered until technology allowed it to be blown up.
The funny thing is that I can still see both of them pretty well in that small pic. 8)
Of course they are educated, that's why they find it easy to make things up for easy money, they see the gullible simpletons will eat it up.I can make out 1000 different objects in that blurry mess if I wanted to.
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You called them kooks in your last post.
I don't know many highly educated kooks.
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You called them kooks in your last post.
I don't know many highly educated kooks.
Sadly there are plenty of educated crazy and eccentric folk
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Just watch about Warren Commission then comment!
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Ropo, this is no disrespect to you at all because i have always kept you in the highest esteem as a poster but the biggest question I have with your theory is "WHY"?? And was Oswald the best they could do??
Why not send a better, world class shooter in?? One shot and done with a better escape route? They could have EASILY pulled it off. The police were literally pulling people in from as far away as Fort Worth. What was stopping Oswald jumping in a Mafia car a block from the scene and zooming away and without anybody being the wiser? The whole situation was just far too sloppy to suggest anything other than a loner with a decent shooting ability who had this opportunity given to him on a silver platter.
That plus the fact that not ONE person has come forward with slightest bit of info regarding the assassination of JFK just makes the argument of a lone gunman, who was the only person in on it, that much stronger.
Look up James Files. Leads to all kinds of interesting stuff on the assassination. A House committee on assassinations in the late 70's concluded that there was at least 2 gunmen.
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Look up James Files. Leads to all kinds of interesting stuff on the assassination. A House committee on assassinations in the late 70's concluded that there was at least 2 gunmen.
Again the house committee based their findings of 2 gunmen or more on where they thought the motorcycle with the recording was, when it turned out he was streets away and nowhere near where the thought.This has been thoroughly debunked if you want to google it.Files is also a notorious liar, again google has the answers.
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Bump for Ropo.
I will stalk you with that post, Ropo, lol.
You go from saying there's "no such thing" as conspiracy, to that. How in the fuck can anyone take you seriously?
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Haven't seen this before. I wonder what the alternate explanations are for this image:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/r71x68.jpg)
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...thanks for posting that, btw, Desolate.
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ONE THING: I CAN DISMISS OSWALD FROM THE SCENE COMPLETELY- The wounds DO NOT hit at the proper angle if he was shooting from the 6th floor...
The TOP of Kennedy's head would be the entry point, and his JAW would be blown off, huge downward angle!!
The throat wound- same thing, entry point in the head again...
*** Shots were all pretty much from ground level ***
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This theory makes total sense.
A new documentary alleges that a Secret Service agent was the second (and accidental) shooter in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
At the Television Critics Association press tour in Los Angeles on Sunday, producers and investigators behind Reelz Channel's new documentary "JFK: The Smoking Gun" made the claim that George Hickey, a Secret Service agent riding in the car behind Kennedy, accidentally shot the president on Nov. 22, 1963. The film follows veteran police detective Colin McLaren in his four-year investigation of the assassination and points at Hickey, who died two years ago.
McLaren's research built on the work of Howard Donahue, who spent 20 years studying the assassination and had his findings documented in Bonar Menninger’s book Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK. McLaren and Menninger were on hand Sunday to take questions about their film, which the network billed in press notes as a "docudrama."
Addressing the crowd, McLaren claimed that Hickey and other Secret Service agents were out partying the night before Kennedy's fatal motorcade drive through Dallas. Based on his painstaking investigation, McLaren said, evidence suggests Hickey was not qualified to use the weapon he was holding the morning of the shooting.
"It was his first time in the follow car, his first time holding the assault weapon he was using," McLaren said. Producers said the film's theory is that shots rang out, and Hickey grabbed his weapon to return fire. When his car stopped suddenly, Hickey accidentally discharged his weapon -- making him the second shooter, the film's investigators and producers alleged.
McLaren said he believes that Hickey's weapon had hollow-point rounds -- different from the ammunition for the weapon used by Lee Harvey Oswald, whom the Warren Commission declared in 1964 was the lone gunman in the case. Menninger and McLaren said that based on their review of the forensics in the case, they believe that Kennedy was also struck by a hollow-point round.
Oswald was killed before he could stand trial, but the case has continued to inspire various theories around just how the tragedy occurred. Books and films have advanced different ideas -- including a second shooter theory.
"We're not saying this was intentional," Menninger said Sunday. "This was a tragic accident in the heat of the moment."
"We don't suggest he was in any way involved in a conspiracy," Menninger added.
Donahue wrote about his theory decades ago, but McLaren said it's taken decades -- and the release of thousands of JFK-related documents during the Clinton administration -- for a proper review of all the evidence and information related to the case. The authors acknowledged Sunday that there are many other books and films on the assassination, but said theirs is unique because it is based on a new review of the documents released during the 1990s.
McLaren and Menninger also alleged that the government -- including Robert F. Kennedy -- covered up the involvement of the Secret Service and Hickey.
The producers were pressed on how the alleged involvement of the Secret Service could be covered up for 50 years.
"Nobody was going to gain" from having this out there, Menninger said.
"We're not here to blacken the name" of Hickey or any other individual, or the modern-day Secret Service, McLaren said.
Menninger discussed the fact that he was sued by Hickey in the 1990s, but noted that despite a settlement, his publisher never removed his book from the shelves.
"I'm sure that [Hickey] suffered greatly from this," Menninger said. "The fact that he passed on -- maybe it's time to talk about it."
"Our documentary is going to be the only one that has opened the case forensically and looked at the evidence from the beginning and examined everything that happened that day in Dealey Plaza," Michael Prupas, the film's executive director, said.
Reelz Channel gained notice two years ago for airing the miniseries "The Kennedys," which some historical experts criticized as an unflattering portrayal of the family.
"No other network will touch these things," Reelz's CEO Stanley E. Hubbard said Sunday.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/28/jfk-second-shooter-documentary_n_3667317.html
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Haven't seen this before. I wonder what the alternate explanations are for this image:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/r71x68.jpg)
Lol, again look at the original Image
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Clint Hill (Secret Service agent that was there when it happened) was on the Imus show this morning. He said that all 3 shots clearly came from behind him (not on the grassy hill on the side). He shielded the president and Jackie after the shooting. He said they were going 11 mph when the shots rang out. I was on a side street on the way to work when he said this so I slowed down to 11 mph and 3 shots like that is very doable. The bullets have been traced to Oswold's gun also and I think there's no doubt that he was the shooter.
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Lol, again look at the original Image
Yeah, I did. Is there doubt about whether it fits to the original pic without adding detail? I don't know much about the subject. (the pic really got me, though. especially the way the eyes seem to compare to sarti's)
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...not to mention the arm patch versus a DPD patch.
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Unlikely
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/19/article-2467471-18D85B8300000578-275_634x574.jpg)
Compared to these creepy bitches he's surrounded with he doesn't look too bad.
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There's no way Oswald got off 3 accurate shots with a bolt action rifle. He was a terrible shot to begin with, and expert marksmen haven't been able to do it since either. I highly doubt he fired a single shot. The shots from the rear likely came from the Dal-Tex building, not the TSBD. Oswald was nothing more than the fall guy, which is why he was killed by Jack Ruby before he could say anything. The fatal head shot came from the Grassy Knoll. All one has to do is look what direction JFK's head went when it was hit. It went back and to the left, which would have been impossible if the headshot came from the rear. Bystanders also looked and ran toward the Grassy Knoll because this is where at least 1 shot came from.
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Exactly.
It is as I explained in an earlier post...
The funny thing about people who think it was Oswald is that now the consensus is that Oswald's first shot missed. :D
Yep, that's the consensus. I've been watching all the specials the last few weeks.
The lone shooter believers say that the first shot missed the car completely.
Say what? :o ??? ::)
Oswald had pulled the bolt back. He had aimed. He had time (and a better chance) to shoot Kennedy coming down Houston Street.
An easy shot. Nowhere for the car to go. If it accelerates forward, you have time for more shots. If it tries to back up, it smashes into the other cars in the motorcade.
Does Oswald shoot Kennedy coming down Houston Street?
Nope.
He waits. And waits. He waits for him to make a turn on Elm Street and begin accelerating away from him.
He now has to make a far more difficult shot, not to mention that he has to shoot through a tree (Texas live oak).
And now they say the first shot missed? The easiest of the bunch?
Too funny. ;D
So in a rush to get off shots two and three with a manual bolt action rifle that has widely been viewed as the single worst shoulder weapon ever made, he scores a throat shot (not to mention a two-for-one with it magically hitting Connolly), but a head shot on the third.
Yeah, right. ::)
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...thanks for posting that, btw, Desolate.
You're welcome, Jack.
If you're interested, this is the special that will explain that photograph.
It's part two of the documentary series called "The Men Who Killed Kennedy."
This particular episode is titled "The Forces of Darkness."
Army of One, you should watch this as well.
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Ropo, this is no disrespect to you at all because i have always kept you in the highest esteem as a poster but the biggest question I have with your theory is "WHY"?? And was Oswald the best they could do??
Why not send a better, world class shooter in?? One shot and done with a better escape route? They could have EASILY pulled it off. The police were literally pulling people in from as far away as Fort Worth. What was stopping Oswald jumping in a Mafia car a block from the scene and zooming away and without anybody being the wiser? The whole situation was just far too sloppy to suggest anything other than a loner with a decent shooting ability who had this opportunity given to him on a silver platter.
That plus the fact that not ONE person has come forward with slightest bit of info regarding the assassination of JFK just makes the argument of a lone gunman, who was the only person in on it, that much stronger.
For me, Oswald himself is the best evidence about the fact, that he was alone. No one in their right mind would put him to position of the shooter, but there is no evidence what so ever for another shooter, so it must be him. He fit in the picture of the murderer, who has his own motives and act alone. Maybe he has brag about the idea, maybe his militant friends has dare him to do it. What is clear by all these scientific evidence find by new techniques, is that he had time for all those three shots, there is no more than those three shots, and no evidencse about anything more, than those three shots. Everything points to Oswald, so how it could not be him? What comes other incidents, fucked up investigation, missing evidence and all that, just look at the situation. People favorite president has been shot in middle of the day in front of thousands of people, and they has lead to the murderer. Since when situation like that has been anything more than time for the lynch mob in texas? How they would be able to do their police work, while situation seem to be straight forward, murderer is in jail etc. And what comes to Ruby, maybe they did have some kind of plot for escape, but hey left Oswald hang, because he was expendable and clear risk, so they send Ruby to stop his talking. Garrison could be partly right in his theories, because bunch of militant dumb ass fools can be the source of this action, with their connection to Cuba. My bet is that this militant group of gay and merry men(Shaw & Ferrie, and the bunch of idiots) have got fed up by Oswalds bragging about his plan to shoot Kennedy, and they told him to do it, or shut the fuck up. When it really happen, it scare them shitless and in this panic they send Ruby, already dying by cancer, to minimize the damages and kill him.
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