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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: dario73 on November 19, 2013, 08:10:15 AM
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Talk about a stolen election.
http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/census-faked-2012-election-jobs-report
In the home stretch of the 2012 presidential campaign, from August to September, the unemployment rate fell sharply — raising eyebrows from Wall Street to Washington.
The decline — from 8.1 percent in August to 7.8 percent in September — might not have been all it seemed. The numbers, according to a reliable source, were manipulated.
And the Census Bureau, which does the unemployment survey, knew it.
Just two years before the presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report, which is one of the most closely watched measures of the economy.
And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond that one employee — that it escalated at the time President Obama was seeking reelection in 2012 and continues today.
“He’s not the only one,” said the source, who asked to remain anonymous for now but is willing to talk with the Labor Department and Congress if asked.
The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.
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The hole deepens
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JACK WELCH IS VINDICATED!!!
A constant theme the last few weeks. Those racist, kkk members wannabe, rednecks, Tea Party members who are only old white men are registered as Republicans have been proven correct on everything they have claimed in the last 3 years on crapcare. Now the UE rate. Next, it will be immigration reform.
JACK WELCH WAS CORRECT, YET HE WAS CRUCIFIED!!!
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They have been right on virtually everything. They are of the types and ideology that created and built up this country. Their detractors have nothing, all they can do is call them names...
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I warned everyone many times.
Yes - I TOLD YOU SO
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I warned everyone many times.
Yes - I TOLD YOU SO
Lol yes, yes you did ;D
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The stock answer will be; I didn’t know; No one told me; It was caused by sequester and the shutdown; It is Bush’s fault; You are racist; It is the NRA’s fault; TEA Party did it; Climate change…
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The stock answer will be; I didn’t know; No one told me; It was caused by sequester and the shutdown; It is Bush’s fault; You are racist; It is the NRA’s fault; TEA Party did it; Climate change…
Lmao
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The stock answer will be; I didn’t know; No one told me; It was caused by sequester and the shutdown; It is Bush’s fault; You are racist; It is the NRA’s fault; TEA Party did it; Climate change…
.....the evil white christian males did it, George Bush, George Bush, George Bush, teabaggers, racist, racist, racist, republicans, racist, George Bush, Sarah Palin, Bachmann, Palin, Bachmann, Bush, Boehner, racist, racist, nazi, nazi, racist, ........no legs to stand on that's why they go to their stock answers.
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Santelli was spot on:
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if proven, grounds for impeachment?
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The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.
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An investigation is going to have to happen and it will have to be proven through testimony and verification of documents. (that's how it happens in the real world, not the "hearsay is proof world")
IF that happens, impeachment?
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Hmmm, an anonymous source names a person (Buckman) but won't give his/her own name
We don't even know if this is true (or even possible) and given how many times a so called scandal has turned out to be nothing it might be wise to wait for more information
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if proven, grounds for impeachment?
I doubt it.
And impeachment would get us President Biden. [insert scary face]
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Hmmm, an anonymous source names a person (Buckman) but won't give his/her own name
We don't even know if this is true (or even possible) and given how many times a so called scandal has turned out to be nothing it might be wise to wait for more information
The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.
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Hmmm, an anonymous source names a person (Buckman) but won't give his/her own name
We don't even know if this is true (or even possible) and given how many times a so called scandal has turned out to be nothing it might be wise to wait for more information
Similar to the IRS scandal.
But when evidence is found to support the fact that conservative groups were targeted, the left turns a blind eye by claiming that liberals were targetted eventhough it was no where near the number of conservative groups. Then it gets called a "phony scandal". Or witnesses are kept away like in the Benghazi situation.
We could have a videotape of this occurring and Obama himself ordering it and you would squirm your way to denial.
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The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.
you're a lawyer right?
Did Buckmon say that or did an anonymous source say that Buckmon said that
Is it possible this Buckmon person could be lying (i.e. do people every lie?)
Is Buckmons claim (assuming he even made it) even possible
these are the things a lawyer or just an intelligent would ask themself
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you're a lawyer right?
Did Buckmon say that or did an anonymous source say that Buckmon said that
Is it possible this Buckmon person could be lying (i.e. do people every lie?)
Is Buckmons claim (assuming he even made it) even possible
these are the things a lawyer or just an intelligent would ask themself
LOL - this just broke - add it to yet the growing list of scandals and black plagues surrounding this horrid admn.
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THE CHANGE IN UE RATE FROM AUGUST TO SEPTEMBER OF 2012 REPRESENTS A 5% GROWTH IN THE GDP.
When has there ever been a turnaround like that? 5%? Please.
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LOL - this just broke - add it to yet the growing list of scandals and black plagues surrounding this horrid admn.
yep and only from one source and that is from anonymous person
everything I just posted still applies
you're not really an attorney are you?
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yep and only from one source and that is from anonymous person
everything I just posted still applies
you're not really an attorney are you?
What you said is garbage and more knee padding of your corrupt lying potus
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5% growth GDP was impossible considering the labor participation rate at that time.
IMPOSSIBLE.
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Hmmm, an anonymous source names a person (Buckman) but won't give his/her own name
We don't even know if this is true (or even possible) and given how many times a so called scandal has turned out to be nothing it might be wise to wait for more information
Obama will be caught selling nuclear codes to Iran, sentenced to death and you'll still make excuses for him.
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The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.
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Many people were suspicious of the jobs report especially right before the election when it made such a drastic improvement.
Turns out they were right!
Add to that the role the IRS played in blocking Tea Party and other conservative organizations from being able to organize and raise funds and you have at least a two-pronged approach to stealing the election.
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Obama will be caught selling nuclear codes to Iran, sentenced to death and you'll still make excuses for him.
I don't recall ever mentioning Obama in any of my posts in this thread
Moreover, the story doesn't claim that Obama had anything to do with this
I'm just pointing out things that any sane and intelligent person would consider
shit, let's assume for now this is true
Is it even possible for one single census worker (or even a few) to falsify enough data to alter the UE Rate?
Did you ever even think about that or were you too busy jerking off to the idea of Obama selling nuclear codes to Iran?
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If These Claims by ‘Reliable Sources’ Are Proven True, the Obama Administration Will Be Dealing With Another Huge Scandal
Nov. 18, 2013 9:42
pm Becket Adams
www.theblaze.com
The U.S. government in the final months leading up to the 2012 presidential election released “faked” unemployment data, according to a bombshell report from the New York Post.
If These Claims by Reliable Sources Are Proven True, the Obama Administration Will Be Dealing With Another Huge Scandal
President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama celebrate his election victory (Getty Images)
Recall that the unemployment rate from August to September dropped precipitously to 7.8 percent from 8.1 percent. This raised suspicion among certain members of the business community, most notably former General Electric CEO Jack Welch.
“Unbelievable jobs numbers,” Welch said in an Oct. 5 tweet, “these Chicago guys will do anything…can’t debate so change numbers.”
He was quickly attacked by cable news pundits and branded by one group as an “unemployment-rate truther.”
However, Welch’s skepticism towards the September 2012 jobs report may not have been that far-fetched.
The September 2012 job numbers were “manipulated” and the the U.S. Census Bureau, the government agency responsible for the report, knew it, the Post alleges, citing “reliable sources.”
The Post’s anonymous source, who said he’s willing to speak to the Labor Department and Congress about the falsified data if asked to do so, said unemployment data manipulation, which continues to this day, involves more than just one rogue employee.
In fact, a full two years before President Barack Obama won a second term in the White House, the Census Bureau reportedly caught an employee fabricating unemployment data. However, the Post notes, instead of correcting the problem, it only got worse and escalated throughout the 2012 presidential election.
The employee who was caught two years ago, one Julius Buckmon, told the Post in an interview that he “faked” the numbers at the direction of his supervisors.
The Post’s John Crudele explains how Buckmon allegedly fabricated the data:
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Ironically, it was Labor’s demanding standards that left the door open to manipulation.
Labor requires Census to achieve a 90 percent success rate on its interviews — meaning it needed to reach 9 out of 10 households targeted and report back on their jobs status.
Census currently has six regions from which surveys are conducted. The New York and Philadelphia regions, I’m told, had been coming up short of the 90 percent.
So how did Philadelphia fill the gap? With fake interviews, Buckmon said.
“It was a phone conversation — I forget the exact words — but it was, ‘Go ahead and fabricate it’ to make it what it was,” he said.
The Census Bureau interviews roughly 60,000 households (each household representing 5,000 homes in the U.S.) and uses the collected data to tabulate the unemployment rate.
Buckmon, however, apparently conducted three times as many interviews than he needed, according to the Post.
“By making up survey results — and, essentially, creating people out of thin air and giving them jobs — Buckmon’s actions could have lowered the jobless rate,” Crudele reports.
“Buckmon said he filled out surveys for people he couldn’t reach by phone or who didn’t answer their doors,” he adds.
The Census Bureau employee, for his part, said he never answered the part of the survey that asks if the respondent is “employed or not, looking for work, or have given up.”
But by making up nonexistent people, Buckmon theoretically could have influenced the final number of persons employed in the U.S. It’s important to note that the Post’s anonymous source — not Buckmon — was supposedly involved in the September 2012 jobs report.
If These Claims by Reliable Sources Are Proven True, the Obama Administration Will Be Dealing With Another Huge Scandal
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney delivers his concession speech after losing to Barack Obama (Getty Images)
Amazingly enough, the Census Bureau never disclosed this information and apparently never informed the Labor Department of the manipulated data.
“Yes, absolutely they should have told us,” a Labor spokesman told the Post. “It would be normal procedure to notify us if there is a problem with data collection.”
There are reportedly at least a dozen separate reports of falsified data. Buckmon’s “not the only one,” the Post’s anonymous source said.
A spokesperson for the Census Bureau did not immediately return TheBlaze’s request for comment.
Click here to see the full report.
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Like all the other "huge" scandals that turned out to be nothing?
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yep and only from one source and that is from anonymous person
everything I just posted still applies
you're not really an attorney are you?
He's a "Hearsay attorney"
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If These Claims by ‘Reliable Sources’ Are Proven True, the Obama Administration Will Be Dealing With Another Huge Scandal
But in the hearsay fairy tale land they are already solid gold fact.
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Like all the other "huge" scandals that turned out to be nothing?
Yeah 5 million dropped off insurance due to ghettocare and its nothing to the communist left - just another bump in the road to communism
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But in the hearsay fairy tale land they are already solid gold fact.
Crudele said he interviewed the guy and has documents.
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Smoke = fire
Just way too many times with this admin.
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I hate having this feeling this one isn't going anywhere. It would be nice if he was impeached even though it meant getting Biden. I don't care because the long term benefits would hopefully out wiegh him.
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Nothing w this admn is EVER on the level.
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Crudele said he interviewed the guy and has documents.
Remember tool - YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA.
Exposed once again as an inept lawyer who takes hearsay as proof while living in his landslide fairytale world.
Once upon a time on Getbig there was this quasiplawyer, the diet coke of lawyering....just one calorie.
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It must suck Soul huh?
You prayed so so much for OB to lose the election that you were so heart broken when he won you couldn't even post for a few weeks.
Now all you do is grasp at anything you can wanting so desperately for it to be true.
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Exposed once again as an inept lawyer who takes hearsay as proof while living in his landslide fairytale world.
Once upon a time on Getbig there was this quasiplawyer, the diet coke of lawyering....just one calorie.
So - hopefully w this story - Congress put these people under oath and we get to the bottom of it.
Many of us said at the time the numbers were being cooked.
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Crudele said he interviewed the guy and has documents.
Assuming it's even true, can one person (or a few) fabricate enough data to alter the national UE rate?
think about it McFly
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Smoke = fire
Just way too many times with this admin.
They need to make something STICK!
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It must suck Soul huh?
You prayed so so much for OB to lose the election that you were so heart broken when he won you couldn't even post for a few weeks.
Now all you do is grasp at anything you can wanting so desperately for it to be true.
yeah - like the 5 million dropped from insurance. . . . . . .
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So - hopefully w this story - Congress put these people under oath and we get to the bottom of it.
Many of us said at the time the numbers were being cooked.
I HOPE SO TOO
But i am not very optimistic
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yeah - like the 5 million dropped from insurance. . . . . . .
So? Is that going to get him and his admin kicked out? NO
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So? Is that going to get him and his admin kicked out? NO
Not at this point - but his re-election is having disastrous consequences that go far beyond me having egg on my face for predicting he would lose.
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Not at this point - but his re-election is having disastrous consequences that go far beyond me having egg on my face for predicting he would lose.
What is going to get him kicked out? NOT HEARSAY BULLSHIT that hasn't been conclusively proven.
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What is going to get him kicked out? NOT HEARSAY BULLSHIT that hasn't been conclusively proven.
The only thing that is going to work at this point is democrats grabbing sack going up to the WH and demanding this asshole either stop his bs or resign.
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Many people were suspicious of the jobs report especially right before the election when it made such a drastic improvement.
Turns out they were right!
Add to that the role the IRS played in blocking Tea Party and other conservative organizations from being able to organize and raise funds and you have at least a two-pronged approach to stealing the election.
You make too much sense. But since you don't have it on videotape, nor do you have any written evidence of Obama and his lackeys ordering it, libtards want you to suspend reason.
It means nothing. To libtards stealing an election is only done at that ballot box. They act as if there are no other ways or means by which to influence the results. Not only that. They believe their leaders would never stoop so low. Obviously, they are wrong.
All you heard from the failureinchief was "7.8%" for weeks leading to the election.
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The only thing that is going to work at this point is democrats grabbing sack going up to the WH and demanding this asshole either stop his bs or resign.
LOL
Aren't you the guy who was convinced Obama was going to resign prior to the last election or that the Dems weren't going to nominate him at the convention and replace him with Hilary (his then Secretary of State)
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The only thing that is going to work at this point is democrats grabbing sack going up to the WH and demanding this asshole either stop his bs or resign.
No.
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You make too much sense. But since you don't have it on videotape, nor do you have any written evidence of Obama and his lackeys ordering it, libtards want you to suspend reason.
It means nothing. To libtards stealing an election is only done at that ballot box. They act as if there are no other ways or means by which to influence the results. Not only that. They believe their leaders would never stoop so low. Obviously, they are wrong.
All you heard from the failureinchief was "7.8%" for weeks leading to the election.
Does the story even mention Obama
Does the anonymous source say the White House was involved
Can one person falsify enough data to change the UE rate?
All things that an intelligent person would consider
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everyone knew this to be the case. All the numbers looked worse, but obama was able to wave the "i got us below 8%" quote around. Duh. Pretty funny when the CTers are proven right.
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everyone knew this to be the case. All the numbers looked worse, but obama was able to wave the "i got us below 8%" quote around. Duh. Pretty funny when the CTers are proven right.
How where they proven right?
Does the story even mention Obama
Does the anonymous source say the White House was involved
Can one person falsify enough data to change the UE rate?
All things that an intelligent person would consider
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Another election stolen.
Obama lied, people died.
Democrats lied, nation died.