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Agree or disagree with Texas?
http://thelibertydigest.com/2013/11/24/dont-mess-with-texas-texas-gives-go-ahead-for-medical-testing-on-pedophiles/
(Sutton County, TX) – Hundreds of violent and predatory sex offenders are being transferred from multiple correctional facilities all over Texas to a specialized medical research facility where they will spend the rest of their lives being used as subjects in medical experimentation and testing.
In a bold move Texas congress passed a bill in early October to give researchers permission to use the most violent, predatory, repeat sex offenders as the first human subjects who will be used in more cutting edge clinical inquiries.
The facility which is located in Sutton County is being praised worldwide as bringing medical research to the next crucial level. Several researchers are clamoring to bring their talent to the practice. Having the opportunity to work with human subjects will give scientists the opportunity to develop sophisticated new treatments and surgical procedures that will eventually be saving lives.
During a recent press conference designed to inform the public about the facility and it’s goals, a handful of people expressed distaste for the program claiming it was inhumane and unethical to use humans in research against their will regardless of their crimes. Senior biologist Andre Bordeaux who will be the primary director of the program had this to say:
“These are people who have committed horrific crimes and have shown no chance of ever being receptive to any kind of rehabilitation or treatment. It costs taxpayers millions of dollars a year to persecute, convict and house these criminals year after year. They are people who contribute absolutely nothing to society other than the pain and anguish that their victims must endure for the rest of their lives. Really, there is no justice in that process. With this new program, these offenders will at least be able to provide something of value to society. We realize that many see this as a cruel and unusual solution, but the majority of the public has agreed that these people basically revoked their rights to be treated with respect and dignity the moment they chose to commit their crimes.”
Others were overjoyed, many of them former victims of sexual abuse perpetrated by the men who were being used in the program. “This really gives me a complete sense of closure” commented Karen Kennedy at the press conference. She had been the victim of a repeat violent offender back in 1992 who was now being transferred to the institute. “I am happy that he will never be able to hurt any more children. It’s good too that they are putting him to good use. Any suffering he may experience in the process of course is an bonus” she added with a sadistic smile.
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Are they volunteering? If they are volunteering I don't see a problem as long as the research doesn't involve gamma rays or super soldier serum. That would be bad.
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it dpedns what have they done, is it by force?
if volunteered, yeah good stuff.
i just read a book from a forensic on this topic.
there should be anonymous opurtunity for them to join such programmes.
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Rapists should be executed not imprisoned or tested. That is all.
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Sounds like a great idea.
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Rapists should be executed not imprisoned or tested. That is all.
Being experimented on is worse than being executed
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Rapists should be executed not imprisoned or tested. That is all.
If that is the case you wouldn't have the Prophet Muhammed :D
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If that is the case you wouldn't have the Prophet Muhammed :D
Lol
;D
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Rapists should be executed not imprisoned or tested. That is all.
predatory doesnt equal rape,does it?
i gotta read the whole text slowly.
but either way, the exection will not fix the cause.there might be many more like them out there, still in the closet, if there is a way to find how to make it controlable.or reverse the cukoo in their heads.
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Getbig is filled with a broad range of intellectuals, who have expertise and indepth knowledge about many topics including law, ethics/morals, science, and research.
Agree or disagree with Texas?
http://thelibertydigest.com/2013/11/24/dont-mess-with-texas-texas-gives-go-ahead-for-medical-testing-on-pedophiles/
(Sutton County, TX) – Hundreds of violent and predatory sex offenders are being transferred from multiple correctional facilities all over Texas to a specialized medical research facility where they will spend the rest of their lives being used as subjects in medical experimentation and testing.
In a bold move Texas congress passed a bill in early October to give researchers permission to use the most violent, predatory, repeat sex offenders as the first human subjects who will be used in more cutting edge clinical inquiries.
The facility which is located in Sutton County is being praised worldwide as bringing medical research to the next crucial level. Several researchers are clamoring to bring their talent to the practice. Having the opportunity to work with human subjects will give scientists the opportunity to develop sophisticated new treatments and surgical procedures that will eventually be saving lives.
During a recent press conference designed to inform the public about the facility and it’s goals, a handful of people expressed distaste for the program claiming it was inhumane and unethical to use humans in research against their will regardless of their crimes. Senior biologist Andre Bordeaux who will be the primary director of the program had this to say:
“These are people who have committed horrific crimes and have shown no chance of ever being receptive to any kind of rehabilitation or treatment. It costs taxpayers millions of dollars a year to persecute, convict and house these criminals year after year. They are people who contribute absolutely nothing to society other than the pain and anguish that their victims must endure for the rest of their lives. Really, there is no justice in that process. With this new program, these offenders will at least be able to provide something of value to society. We realize that many see this as a cruel and unusual solution, but the majority of the public has agreed that these people basically revoked their rights to be treated with respect and dignity the moment they chose to commit their crimes.”
Others were overjoyed, many of them former victims of sexual abuse perpetrated by the men who were being used in the program. “This really gives me a complete sense of closure” commented Karen Kennedy at the press conference. She had been the victim of a repeat violent offender back in 1992 who was now being transferred to the institute. “I am happy that he will never be able to hurt any more children. It’s good too that they are putting him to good use. Any suffering he may experience in the process of course is an bonus” she added with a sadistic smile.
The source of the article is the National Report..
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Are they volunteering? If they are volunteering I don't see a problem as long as the research doesn't involve gamma rays or super soldier serum. That would be bad.
THIS.
"Take this drug and we'll shave 2 years off your sentence."
And if the drug takes away their pedo bear urges, then it's a win.
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It says pedo's. they should NEVER be released. They are not able to be rehabilitated. Shoot them or test drugs on them. Dont care. At all.
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it dpedns what have they done, is it by force?
if volunteered, yeah good stuff.
i just read a book from a forensic on this topic.
there should be anonymous opurtunity for them to join such programmes.
I believe it is not voluntary.
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If that is the case you wouldn't have the Prophet Muhammed :D
DOH!!!!
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i dont really like the human testing portion of it but if you believe that homosexuality is a genetic trait then you would think they could learn something from this as well.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Garavito
they will all say they heard voices of the devil blabla and now are rolemodel christians fighting the devil.
its all bullshit , always.
its more important to find out the cause of the things and then regulate there.
its always a similiar blueprint.
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Not happening. 8th Amendment to the United States Constitution.
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Not happening. 8th Amendment to the United States Constitution.
Pfffffft. What does the Constitution mean nowadays?
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Not happening. 8th Amendment to the United States Constitution.
if liberalism has taught me anything its that the constitution is meant to be changed
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i dont really like the human testing portion of it but if you believe that homosexuality is a genetic trait then you would think they could learn something from this as well.
Assuming this isn't all bullshit and besides the pedophelia the inmates are of sound mind, they should have the right to do with their body what they choose
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If this article is real, which I suspect it isn't, I am all for it, volunteer or not. Only way I would have a problem with forces experimentation is if they didn't have a confession of the crime from the guilty party.
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Assuming this isn't all bullshit and besides the pedophelia the inmates are of sound mind, they should have the right to do with their body what they choose
I pretty much agree
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It says pedo's. they should NEVER be released. They are not able to be rehabilitated. Shoot them or test drugs on them. Dont care. At all.
it says repeat violent offenders.
but consider,theres probably many pedos out there who have the urge brewing in them and some maybe live till their death without the urge taking them over.
to knwo how many there are, itd be useful to have soemthing like AA.some have self control till detah,some have additonal issues and are batshit insane.
I believe it is not voluntary.
depending on what the measures are, it would be legaly problematic,no?
i think the govt doesnt tell the ppl that these who join get something in exchange.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/medresearch.asp
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/medresearch.asp
thats settled then.
its funny that the op has been edgy about calling ppl smart on the topics etc ;D ;D
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/medresearch.asp
This still won't convince those who want to believe it... A visit to the National Report website should explain everything..
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thats settled then.
its funny that the op has been edgy about calling ppl smart on the topics etc ;D ;D
That is why I rely on GB for the smarts. They are able to find out the truth!
Nonetheless, would make for an interesting question on morals/ethics.
Plus, Wiggs has indepth knowledge about the NWO and perhaps this may become true in the future.
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That is why I rely on GB for the smarts. They are able to find out the truth!
Nonetheless, would make for an interesting question on morals/ethics.
Plus, Wiggs has indepth knowledge about the NWO and perhaps this may become true in the future.
Exactly. The hierarchy is just floating this out there to get an idea of public opinion. ;D
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Nonetheless, would make for an interesting question on morals/ethics.
If we were a country serious about capital punishment (limited and expedited habeus corpus), the desire for retributive justice might be somewhat quelled. That said, the unaffected moral man wants no more than an eye for an eye, but the family of the victim might demand more, up to and including some form of torture.
Hence the golden road to Sharia. I'll stick with the Constitution, thanks.
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Doesn't have to be real, its still a fun thought experiment.
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Exactly. The hierarchy is just floating this out there to get an idea of public opinion. ;D
:D :D
Perhaps it was a conspiracy by the NWO to brainwash all of us. Sort of akin to subliminal messages. I wonder what Wiggs would say about this.
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Appropriate punishment for pedos. Getbig approved
Muslims around the world are probably hoping other countries dont follow the texas standard. Imagine if this became a global standard. 9/10 of the muslim population would be facing execution.
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I don't know about the experimentation, but swift execution is fine by me.
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Rapists should be executed not imprisoned or tested. That is all.
Errr, you do know Mohammed was a paedophile right?
I think the program is great and hopefully will lead to less rape in the civilised world eventually. I don't understand people that wouldn't think its a good thing.
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Getbig is filled with a broad range of intellectuals, who have expertise and indepth knowledge about many topics including law, ethics/morals, science, and research.
Agree or disagree with Texas?
http://thelibertydigest.com/2013/11/24/dont-mess-with-texas-texas-gives-go-ahead-for-medical-testing-on-pedophiles/
(Sutton County, TX) – Hundreds of violent and predatory sex offenders are being transferred from multiple correctional facilities all over Texas to a specialized medical research facility where they will spend the rest of their lives being used as subjects in medical experimentation and testing.
In a bold move Texas congress passed a bill in early October to give researchers permission to use the most violent, predatory, repeat sex offenders as the first human subjects who will be used in more cutting edge clinical inquiries.
The facility which is located in Sutton County is being praised worldwide as bringing medical research to the next crucial level. Several researchers are clamoring to bring their talent to the practice. Having the opportunity to work with human subjects will give scientists the opportunity to develop sophisticated new treatments and surgical procedures that will eventually be saving lives.
During a recent press conference designed to inform the public about the facility and it’s goals, a handful of people expressed distaste for the program claiming it was inhumane and unethical to use humans in research against their will regardless of their crimes. Senior biologist Andre Bordeaux who will be the primary director of the program had this to say:
“These are people who have committed horrific crimes and have shown no chance of ever being receptive to any kind of rehabilitation or treatment. It costs taxpayers millions of dollars a year to persecute, convict and house these criminals year after year. They are people who contribute absolutely nothing to society other than the pain and anguish that their victims must endure for the rest of their lives. Really, there is no justice in that process. With this new program, these offenders will at least be able to provide something of value to society. We realize that many see this as a cruel and unusual solution, but the majority of the public has agreed that these people basically revoked their rights to be treated with respect and dignity the moment they chose to commit their crimes.”
Others were overjoyed, many of them former victims of sexual abuse perpetrated by the men who were being used in the program. “This really gives me a complete sense of closure” commented Karen Kennedy at the press conference. She had been the victim of a repeat violent offender back in 1992 who was now being transferred to the institute. “I am happy that he will never be able to hurt any more children. It’s good too that they are putting him to good use. Any suffering he may experience in the process of course is an bonus” she added with a sadistic smile.
False story....complete violation of the 8th Amendment.
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False story....complete violation of the 8th Amendment.
Too bad.
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False story....complete violation of the 8th Amendment.
Your considered legal opinion has gravitas. I have it on good authority that Chief Justice John Roberts not only buys bee pollen from your site but routinely consults you on difficult questions about Constitutional jurisprudence. Curious minds want to know, have you ever invited him and his wife to join you over a cup of noodles?
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Appropriate punishment for pedos. Getbig approved
Muslims around the world are probably hoping other countries dont follow the texas standard. Imagine if this became a global standard. 9/10 of the muslim population would be facing execution.
Greatest state in the country.
Do whatever you want to a pedophile in regards of punishment or testing, I'll just turn my head and pretend I didn't see anything.
They get zero sympathy from me.
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Greatest state in the country.
Do whatever you want to a pedophile in regards of punishment or testing, I'll just turn my head and pretend I didn't see anything.
They get zero sympathy from me.
Assuming the original story were true for the sake of argument, I'm curious about one thing: what other violations of the Constitution would you turn a blind eye to?
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Dr.Joseph Mengele's ideology/experiments lives in Texas too ;D
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Assuming the original story were true for the sake of argument, I'm curious about one thing: what other violations of the Constitution would you turn a blind eye to?
Zero sympathy for pedophiles my man.
And I really can't put it any more plainly than that.
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Zero sympathy for pedophiles my man.
And I really can't put it any more plainly than that.
That really doesn't answer the question.
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That really doesn't answer the question.
If you have irrefutable proof that an adult took advantage of a little kid in a sexual manner I could care less what becomes of that person. I just have zero need for those people.
If that goes against the constitution, fuck it, I could care less.
When it comes to damn near everything else, I have the upmost respect and love for the constitution but in that regards if they just took them out back and put a bullet in their head on national television or pay per view I would be cool with it.
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If you have irrefutable proof that an adult took advantage of a little kid in a sexual manner I could care less what becomes of that person. I just have zero need for those people.
If that goes against the constitution, fuck it, I could care less.
When it comes to damn near everything else, I have the upmost respect and love for the constitution but in that regards if they just took them out back and put a bullet in their head on national television or pay per view I would be cool with it.
First of, let's agree that pedophiles are scum and they deserve to be punished. I don't think I know anyone who would seriously argue with that position.
Let's look at what you're saying however - taking labels out of the equation. You are, in essence, saying is that you have the utmost respect and love for the Constitution, except when you don't, because if <X> then "fuck it, [you] could care less." And you know what? Hide behind your finger if you must, it's fine. But don't expect us to notice you doing it when youtell us how you love the Constitution and, in the same breath, follow up with how you shit on it.
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First of, let's agree that pedophiles are scum and they deserve to be punished. I don't think I know anyone who would seriously argue with that position. However, what you are, in essence, saying is that you have the utmost respect and love for the Constitution, except when you don't, because if <X> then "fuck it, [you] could care less."
That's fine and all, but don't hide behind your finger and tell us how you love the Constitution only to follow up with how you shit on it.
Well you got me there, bro.
Lets work on that next ammendment I suppose that way I don't have to shit on the constitution anymore.
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vince basile released a sigh of relief when he realized its a made up story
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If we can make this mandatory for all pedophiles, Muslims could finally prove of some worth. Islam would provide an infinite supply of them.
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vince basile released a sigh of relief when he realized its a made up story
;D
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If we can make this mandatory for all pedophiles, Muslims could finally prove of some worth. Islam would provide an infinite supply of them.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/british-imam-sajid-zafar-hussain-agrees-marry-14-year-old-girl-undercover-news-report
Sajid Zafar Hussain had been suspended from his job for the last month after two undercover TV reporters were able to catch him on camera agreeing to marry off a teenager. The reporters were posing as the schoolgirl’s mother and brother and asked Hussain if he would be willing to give her away. He agreed. When the incident was made public, Hussain was immediately suspended.
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Well its a complicated subject what defines being pedophile. It appears to many of these laws are abused like drug laws by over zealous prosecutors and end up putting more young guys in jail for banging some 15-17yo whore. Also you have to take different cultures into context. Its a slippery slope they need to come up with a concrete defenition of what defines a pedophile. There have been several cases where prosecutors have tried kids for manufacturing child porn from sending cell phone pix.
Violence of any sort is unacceptable the laws are old and archaic and need another look.
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Does anyone have Alexis Texas's phone number I need it.
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To be honest whole legal system is screwed up with outdated laws based on christian morals and special intrest groups. Drug laws , Traffic laws, sex laws, part of the reason for the big american decline. It seems one thing that isn't punished very hard is out right violence and theft and real crimes against other people. Greatest country in the world has second largest prison system housing mostly non violent offenders .
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The Hierarchy experimenting in prisons? Lol...That shit's been going on for decades...
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predatory doesnt equal rape,does it?
i gotta read the whole text slowly.
but either way, the exection will not fix the cause.there might be many more like them out there, still in the closet, if there is a way to find how to make it controlable.or reverse the cukoo in their heads.
these experiments aren't to cure their issue..... these people are deemed worthless scum and no better then a cock Roach. These aren't small time sex offenders these are habitual violent and can't not be rehabilitated .... the screws are loose and there is no tightening them . So that being said why spend tax payers money keeping a caged animal alive when we can bennifit as a species from clinical experimentating on them ..... the Nazi did it and the medical world is far more advanced because of it but it was on innocent people these FUCKS are not innocent but vial waste of flesh
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these experiments aren't to cure their issue..... these people are deemed worthless scum and no better then a cock Roach. These aren't small time sex offenders these are habitual violent and can't not be rehabilitated .... the screws are loose and there is no tightening them . So that being said why spend tax payers money keeping a caged animal alive when we can bennifit as a species from clinical experimentating on them ..... the Nazi did it and the medical world is far more advanced because of it but it was on innocent people these FUCKS are not innocent but vial waste of flesh
Lol that's the first time I've heard that used as a reason why we SHOULD do something ;D
Pedophiles are the scum of the earth, but conducting medical experiments on an unwilling human--that's not right.
Even if you disagree with that, I think the main reason to be against this is the inherent risk of experimenting on an innocent man. If you wrongly convict someone, lock em up for 10 years, and evidence later exonerates them, well at least they can get a cash settlement. Not perfect, but it's better than nothing.
But imagine if we experiment on some pedophile, he gets irreparably fucked up, and then it turns out he was innocent??
Also the whole slippery slope/erosion of the Constitution thing.... can't believe people are in favor of this :-\
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Lol that's the first time I've heard that used as a reason why we SHOULD do something ;D
Pedophiles are the scum of the earth, but conducting medical experiments on an unwilling human--that's not right.
Even if you disagree with that, I think the main reason to be against this is the inherent risk of experimenting on an innocent man. If you wrongly convict someone, lock em up for 10 years, and evidence later exonerates them, well at least they can get a cash settlement. Not perfect, but it's better than nothing.
But imagine if we experiment on some pedophile, he gets irreparably fucked up, and then it turns out he was innocent??
Also the whole slippery slope/erosion of the Constitution thing.... can't believe people are in favor of this :-\
these are not small time guys . They are habitual , you don't get life sentence fif one offense these guys have prooced themselves guilty by doing it over and over again and once you do something like this they are mentally reviewed and studied . Im sure there is 0% that one of these future subjects are innocent
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And in not saying that's a good reason , I'm just stating that after we investigated those camps and the areas where they did such horrible things no matter how they achieved the info , it was way to important and beneficial to humanity to discard it out of moral ethics...... there's so much research out there in medical that would not exist if someone not in their right mind wouldn't have done some of the cruel experiments.... so if you knew which info was achieved in such a way would you now refuse any treatment or meds that resulted from that experiment
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Texas style news from Australia: 3 man have been charged over the haul, which included 328 weapons (yes 328)
& 4.2 tonnes of amo on a property near Monto,130km west of Bundenberg in Queensland,there is MP5's,AK-47's, etc,...
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hope they all refused and are forced anyway