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Look, I think Santorum is top 3 for the 2016 nomination. He WILL outlast the dorks like Christie and Rubio, wet behind the ears. BUT he needs to not take the low road (like Obama did) and try to cash in on Mandela.
Rick Santorum: Nelson Mandela Fought 'Great Injustice,' Just Like Republicans Are Battling Obamacare
During an appearance on Fox News Thursday night, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) discussed the death of Nelson Mandela, saying the former South African president fought "great injustice" just like Republicans who are battling Obamacare.
"Nelson Mandela stood up against a great injustice and was willing to pay a huge price for that. That's the reason he's mourned today, because of that struggle that he performed," Santorum said. "But you're right, I mean, what he was advocating for was not necessarily the right answer, but he was fighting against some great injustice, and I would make the argument that we have a great injustice going on right now in this country with an ever-increasing size of government that is taking over and controlling people's lives, and Obamacare is front and center in that."
The statement, pointed out by Slate's Dave Weigel in a tweet Friday morning, came after Fox News host Bill O'Reilly claimed Mandela "was a great man, but he was a communist."
"I would never attack Nelson Mandela," O'Reilly said next.
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Frothy still trying to make waves with his insignificant ass.
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Fucking please, this myth of Mandela is fucking ridiculous. He was a communist and a terrorist, hell even amnesty international wouldn't defend him because of all the shit he did. Fucking unbelievable people choose to turn in to martyrs..........
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Fucking please, this myth of Mandela is fucking ridiculous. He was a communist and a terrorist, hell even amnesty international wouldn't defend him because of all the shit he did. Fucking unbelievable people choose to turn in to martyrs..........
I'm glad he was a terrorist....he was fighting against Apartheid and the grip that whitey had on the Motherland was so tight that he did what he had to do....and he won.
Guess who else led a group of marauders to blew up buildings and killed people???...George Washington.
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Look, I think Santorum is top 3 for the 2016 nomination. He WILL outlast the dorks like Christie and Rubio, wet behind the ears. BUT he needs to not take the low road (like Obama did) and try to cash in on Mandela.
Rick Santorum: Nelson Mandela Fought 'Great Injustice,' Just Like Republicans Are Battling Obamacare
During an appearance on Fox News Thursday night, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) discussed the death of Nelson Mandela, saying the former South African president fought "great injustice" just like Republicans who are battling Obamacare.
"Nelson Mandela stood up against a great injustice and was willing to pay a huge price for that. That's the reason he's mourned today, because of that struggle that he performed," Santorum said. "But you're right, I mean, what he was advocating for was not necessarily the right answer, but he was fighting against some great injustice, and I would make the argument that we have a great injustice going on right now in this country with an ever-increasing size of government that is taking over and controlling people's lives, and Obamacare is front and center in that."
The statement, pointed out by Slate's Dave Weigel in a tweet Friday morning, came after Fox News host Bill O'Reilly claimed Mandela "was a great man, but he was a communist."
"I would never attack Nelson Mandela," O'Reilly said next.
what are you smoking tonight
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Santorum doesn't have a snowflake's chance.
I'm a flaming Protestant, and his anti-contraceptive stances irk me. That, and the fact that he has all the charisma of a moon rock.
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I'm glad he was a terrorist....he was fighting against Apartheid and the grip that whitey had on the Motherland was so tight that he did what he had to do....and he won.
Guess who else led a group of marauders to blew up buildings and killed people???...George Washington.
Oh look goodrum doesn't know what he's talking about................... .........again
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Rick Santorum? He's an imbecile. Realistically, it matters not who inevitably gets into office, considering the whole system has been hijacked and is corrupt. It's like changing Captains on the Titanic after the ship is already taking on water.
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I'm glad he was a terrorist....he was fighting against Apartheid and the grip that whitey had on the Motherland was so tight that he did what he had to do....and he won.
Guess who else led a group of marauders to blew up buildings and killed people???...George Washington.
So the means always justify the end, do they?
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Nelson Mandela and his wife were murderous terrorists and all around pieces of shit.
South Africa's doing well these days...LOL.
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So the means always justify the end, do they?
Youre speaking to a flaming libtard..."the ends justify the means" is their mantra
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What I find extremely disturbing is the fact that my "spidey sense" is tingling.
Call it women's intuition or whatever you want, ...it's the same feeling in the pit of my gut that I got on election night 2008 when the President stepped up to the podium. He had a look of dis - ease about him that told me in his heart he was very troubled. He did not have the look of a man happy & excited about being elected and about delivering his campaign promises to the people. It struck me as a look of dread, ...as if, he was acknowledging the axe had fallen,
Now when I view his statements on the death of Mandela, I get the same feeling.
I wonder what he was thinking? Was he thinking about the ramifications for freedom all over the planet wherever apartheid is state policy? Was he thinking about the fact that Mandela's life and everything he stood for will be put under the microscope, ...and many of the things he stood for that have been successfully censored by American media could come flooding out... What was he thinking?
While I'll grant him that this was not an occasion for happiness & celebration, his troubled expression did not come across to me as one of sombre mourning, ...it struck me as pained & conflicted for entirely other reasons.
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do you talk just to hear yourself fucking talk?
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People on this board who are criticizing Mandela would likely have done many of the same things (or worse) if they were faced with an oppressive occupying force in this country
He started out committed to non-violence (ala Ghandi) but then switched to violence when he decided it wasn't working
There is an abundance of blood on both sides
How many of the same people condemning Mandela a terrorist (which he was) are also the same violence loving gun nuts who fantasize about violence and civil war in this country
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People on this board who are criticizing Mandela would likely have done many of the same things (or worse) if they were faced with an oppressive occupying force in this country
He started out committed to non-violence (ala Ghandi) but then switched to violence when he decided it wasn't working
There is an abundance of blood on both sides
How many of the same people condemning Mandela a terrorist (which he was) are also the same violence loving gun nuts who fantasize about violence and civil war in this country
you praise this guy for fighting against an oppressive govt and then rant and rave about how we dont need guns?
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People on this board who are criticizing Mandela would likely have done many of the same things (or worse) if they were faced with an oppressive occupying force in this country
He started out committed to non-violence (ala Ghandi) but then switched to violence when he decided it wasn't working
There is an abundance of blood on both sides
How many of the same people condemning Mandela a terrorist (which he was) are also the same violence loving gun nuts who fantasize about violence and civil war in this country
Yep, ...and how many would have even attempted let alone exhausted the non-violent approach first?
It's also part of the reason Martin Luther King was able to achieve the results he did, ...because everyone knew that waiting in the wings was a more militant Nation of Islam.
Authorities preferred an army of peaceful, non-violent church goers, to an army of angry empowered militant muslims filled with hatred for whitey, and ready to use any means necessary.
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you praise this guy for fighting against an oppressive govt and then rant and rave about how we dont need guns?
I've never said "you don't need guns"
remember our agreement?
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I've never said "you don't need guns"
remember our agreement?
are you not ok with banning all guns?
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are you not ok with banning all guns?
for fucks sake I've never said any such thing
how many times are you going to do this same bullshit
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for fucks sake I've never said any such thing
how many times are you going to do this same bullshit
LMFAO ok so youre ok with limiting our guns to muskets then?
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I wish Glock made a musket. That'd be badass
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LMFAO ok so youre ok with limiting our guns to muskets then?
you've gone back on your word more than once
I'm not wasting any more time
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Quote from: LurkerNoMore
Good luck with that. He overcompensates by trying to string buzz words together in an attempt to sound witty and knowledgeable which in reality leaves any argument or stance of his with a bigger gap in it than there was before.
Particularly amusing is his habit of trying to reverse your statement back in the form of a rhetorical question in the hopes that you will make his argument for him. Since he isn't exactly sure of what he is trying to say or how to convey it.
that is a great quote,fits tonymctones a tee
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you've gone back on your word more than once
I'm not wasting any more time
hahahah do you agree you have stated you were ok with limiting guns to muskets?
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So the means always justify the end, do they?
If it wasn't for terrorism, we'd still be under British rule
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If it wasn't for terrorism, we'd still be under British rule
What a ridiculous response. ::)
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What a ridiculous response. ::)
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Start reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutemen
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These are the same right-wing scum that were happy when Martin Luther King Jr., was murdered. Dispicable.
If you vote democrat, you may or may not be racist.
If you are racist, you definitely vote republican.
Newt Gingrich says he was very surprised at the vicious backlash he got from the base for praising Nelson Mandela. That's how freaky the GOP base has gotten-it's crazy enough to out-crazy the guy who wants to turn black kids into unpaid janitors! One person responded to Newt's praise of Mandela by writing "This clenched-fist, murdering, gorilla warrior does not deserve respect from informed Americans." And yes, they spelled "gorilla" the way you do for an ape, not a fighter. The "gorilla warrior" post is a tough one. You really can't tell if it's the result of vicious racism or incredible ignorance. The Republican base has plenty of both.
In South Carolina, a county sheriff is refusing to honor President Obama's order that flags be flown at half-staff for Nelson Mandela. Come on, South Carolina! We mean the American flag, not the Confederate flag you still fly in the state capitol. Pickens County Sheriff Rick Clark (does that sound like a character in a movie or what?) said he won't lower the flag because Mandela "was not an American." It may also because he was not white... but then in South Carolina, "white" and "American" tend to get conflated.
One man's "terrorist" is another man's freedom fighter.
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These are the same right-wing scum that were happy when Martin Luther King Jr., was murdered. Dispicable.
If you vote democrat, you may or may not be racist.
If you are racist, you definitely vote republican.
Newt Gingrich says he was very surprised at the vicious backlash he got from the base for praising Nelson Mandela. That's how freaky the GOP base has gotten-it's crazy enough to out-crazy the guy who wants to turn black kids into unpaid janitors! One person responded to Newt's praise of Mandela by writing "This clenched-fist, murdering, gorilla warrior does not deserve respect from informed Americans." And yes, they spelled "gorilla" the way you do for an ape, not a fighter. The "gorilla warrior" post is a tough one. You really can't tell if it's the result of vicious racism or incredible ignorance. The Republican base has plenty of both.
In South Carolina, a county sheriff is refusing to honor President Obama's order that flags be flown at half-staff for Nelson Mandela. Come on, South Carolina! We mean the American flag, not the Confederate flag you still fly in the state capitol. Pickens County Sheriff Rick Clark (does that sound like a character in a movie or what?) said he won't lower the flag because Mandela "was not an American." It may also because he was not white... but then in South Carolina, "white" and "American" tend to get conflated.
One man's "terrorist" is another man's freedom fighter.
I always cracks me up when guys like Newt claim to be surprised by reactions like this. Is he really unaware of the views of a certain segment of his own party (some of which he has fomented himself)
Shit, the response posted on his FB page would be an example of "just another day at the office" for the kind of stuff we see posted on this board every day
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What a ridiculous response. ::)
Ridiculous, but sadly true. Alot of memes Americans were taught in school are false.
ie: Benedict Arnold being a traitor. Quite the contrary. Benedict Arnold was a loyal patriot who ended up on the losing side of a battle, ...but he was no traitor.
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These are the same right-wing scum that were happy when Martin Luther King Jr., was murdered. Dispicable.
If you vote democrat, you may or may not be racist.
If you are racist, you definitely vote republican.
Newt Gingrich says he was very surprised at the vicious backlash he got from the base for praising Nelson Mandela. That's how freaky the GOP base has gotten-it's crazy enough to out-crazy the guy who wants to turn black kids into unpaid janitors! One person responded to Newt's praise of Mandela by writing "This clenched-fist, murdering, gorilla warrior does not deserve respect from informed Americans." And yes, they spelled "gorilla" the way you do for an ape, not a fighter. The "gorilla warrior" post is a tough one. You really can't tell if it's the result of vicious racism or incredible ignorance. The Republican base has plenty of both.
In South Carolina, a county sheriff is refusing to honor President Obama's order that flags be flown at half-staff for Nelson Mandela. Come on, South Carolina! We mean the American flag, not the Confederate flag you still fly in the state capitol. Pickens County Sheriff Rick Clark (does that sound like a character in a movie or what?) said he won't lower the flag because Mandela "was not an American." It may also because he was not white... but then in South Carolina, "white" and "American" tend to get conflated.
One man's "terrorist" is another man's freedom fighter.
Despite lowering the flag for Pope John Paul II a Pole, and Yitzhak Rabin, and Israeli
It wasn't lowered for Margeret Thatcher though, ...but then again racism and misogyny often go hand in hand.
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Start reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutemen
It went right over your head.