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I've been off tren for about 10 days now, just been cruising on about 1700 or so test enan with about 1mg methyltrienolone/day and about 75mg winstrol/day.
but STILL I wake up at the same time each morning (about 7am) cold as hell because my sheets and comforter are SOAKED.. I mean SOAKED and my AC makes the wet sheets COLD as hell (so it wakes me up).
i'm going through 5 sets of bedsheets a week. it's fucking retarded.
I thought it was the tren.. but I've been off tren for a while.
I thought maybe it was withdrawl from Ultram, but last night I took my last Ultram (50mg) at 330am, and still woke up at 7am soaked. ('withdrawl' wouldn't kick in till at least noon... i usually take 3 per day. 1 before bed, 1 after i wake up, and 1 during the day. not a large dose at all).
could it be from estrogen somehow? progesterone?
i'm clueless.
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Did you ever stop to think it was the 5 gram a week + fatburners or whatever the fuck it is you're running?
High dopamine is probably the issue. Dopamine is the tits, and is on an axis with progesterone so stops you from growing tits. I really would decide if running all that shit or not having to wash your sheets 5x a week is more important
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i read its overheatin mytochondria cells
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Many of the sides of teen can be explained through sleep apnea causes and effects.
The same mechanics that are responsible for SA air restriction are closely related to tren cough. SA sufferers deal with night sweats due to the body working so hard to get air in the lungs during sleep, same with tren.
Trensomnia, just another form of sleep apnea.
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Many of the sides of teen can be explained through sleep apnea causes and effects.
The same mechanics that are responsible for SA air restriction are closely related to tren cough. SA sufferers deal with night sweats due to the body working so hard to get air in the lungs during sleep, same with tren.
Trensomnia, just another form of sleep apnea.
This is interesting. Never thought of that. I have apnea and use a cpap, but never thought that maybe tren would worsen it. I remember before i got diagnosed and got a cpap machine, I would have similar night sweats and insomnia to what I get from tren. Fuck that might be it. This is why this forum is so great, I never would have thought of this. I stopped tren because of the trensomnia and sweats.
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This is interesting. Never thought of that. I have apnea and use a cpap, but never thought that maybe tren would worsen it. I remember before i got diagnosed and got a cpap machine, I would have similar night sweats and insomnia to what I get from tren. Fuck that might be it. This is why this forum is so great, I never would have thought of this. I stopped tren because of the trensomnia and sweats.
Nobody puts these two together for some reason. I've advocated this for a while.
I have never experienced tren cough or night sweats. I always wondered why, even though I've experienced the benefits of tren. I noticed how closely Tren and sleep apnea sufferers share the same sides. And when I dug deeper, I also noticed causes were almost one in the same.
So whatever makes one susceptible to sleep apnea likely makes one more susceptible to tren sides. Which would make the opposite true as well.
Admittedly I don't know what the cure is but I do know the answer lies with sleep apnea causes and effects.
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Did you ever stop to think it was the 5 gram a week + fatburners or whatever the fuck it is you're running?
High dopamine is probably the issue. Dopamine is the tits, and is on an axis with progesterone so stops you from growing tits. I really would decide if running all that shit or not having to wash your sheets 5x a week is more important
I don't use fat burners so I don't know where you got that from, and I've been getting the night sweats whether i'm on 2g or 6g/wk... right now i'm down to under 2g test... in the past few weeks I've probably taken in about 1.5g/wk test and no tren for over a week. winstrol dose is low never noticed an increase with it.. and never noticed an increase in night sweats with methyltrienolone.
I haven't run dbol for at least a few weeks now, and my prami usage is only when i'm running high tren or deca/npp... and even then it's only .5mg about once every 4-5days.
and if it was dopamine, then I would've had an increase in night sweats when I was using Welbutrin (a dopamine reuptake inhibitor... at anywhere from 50mg-300mg/day)... in fact, I didn't notice any night sweats at all when using Welbutrin.
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Have you slept with any unclean women in the past 60-90 days?
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Have you slept with any unclean women in the past 60-90 days?
unclean? no.
but I did get checked for std's about 3weeks ago and haven't slept with any new girls since then.
only slept with one girl since then actually, and she's freakin in love with me. (I can't get rid of her. lol)
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I have found after coming off Tren that it can take your body a while to adjust. It is very irritating but I expect you will return to normal in the next four or five days.
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I have found after coming off Tren that it can take your body a while to adjust. It is very irritating but I expect you will return to normal in the next four or five days.
I don't recall the sweats ever being this bad in the past.
and the sweats haven't changed much being on or off tren.
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AAS withdrawal-JK. I would give it another week let your body get rid of some toxins and you should sleep better. This is not uncommon. I usually take a xanax in situations like this but to somebody who is trying to stay 100% clean try doing some extra cardio. A few real good nights of sleep should take care of this problem,sometimes when using tren there is too much toxin build up wich can cause you to perspire at night. I would also experiment and eat real low carbs for a day and see if that helps. I know when I am on tren I have to take it easy on carbs otherwise I will sweat real horribly.That is how I can tell the tren is good, if I start eating carbs on good tren I will start sweating real hard every time.
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I've been off tren for about 10 days now, just been cruising on about 1700 or so test enan with about 1mg methyltrienolone/day and about 75mg winstrol/day.
but STILL I wake up at the same time each morning (about 7am) cold as hell because my sheets and comforter are SOAKED.. I mean SOAKED and my AC makes the wet sheets COLD as hell (so it wakes me up).
i'm going through 5 sets of bedsheets a week. it's fucking retarded.
I thought it was the tren.. but I've been off tren for a while.
I thought maybe it was withdrawl from Ultram, but last night I took my last Ultram (50mg) at 330am, and still woke up at 7am soaked. ('withdrawl' wouldn't kick in till at least noon... i usually take 3 per day. 1 before bed, 1 after i wake up, and 1 during the day. not a large dose at all).
could it be from estrogen somehow? progesterone?
i'm clueless.
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Don't know your age. But instead of trying to write it off to Roids, give yourself the benefit of the doubt and get checked out for the possibility of lymphoma. Going through five sets of bedsheets a week sounds excessive for any Roid. My two cents.
DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
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Don't know your age. But instead of trying to write it off to Roids, give yourself the benefit of the doubt and get checked out for the possibility of lymphoma. Going through five sets of bedsheets a week sounds excessive for any Roid. My two cents.
DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
I was just in the hospital for bloodwork a couple months ago, and I dont' have any other symptoms or swollen glands.
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I was just in the hospital for bloodwork a couple months ago, and I dont' have any other symptoms or swollen glands.
Good man. The idea is to keep you healthy. Don't want to be an alarmist here.
DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
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i have been on low carbs these days,what i noticed whenever i have more,not excessive but just a little bit more carbs i'll sweat at night
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i have been on low carbs these days,what i noticed whenever i have more,not excessive but just a little bit more carbs i'll sweat at night
i'll take note.
I do tend to carb-up before bed with HEAVY carb meals. I didn't last night and didn't have the BAD night sweats at 7am like I've been having... i'll try it tonight with some ego's w/sugar, cinnamon, and syrup.. and probably some cinnamon rolls.
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well... I had 1 big slice of pizza before bed, so not much carbs, but woke up this morning with my face and neck sweating like hell. pillow was soaked as well as the tshirt I had over my eyes. body and sheets/comforter was pretty dry though, which was odd.
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well... I had 1 big slice of pizza before bed, so not much carbs, but woke up this morning with my face and neck sweating like hell. pillow was soaked as well as the tshirt I had over my eyes. body and sheets/comforter was pretty dry though, which was odd.
Dude get checked for sleep apnea if you have not already. I have thought about this thread and I think that is what was happening to me on tren. I had the worst tren sides at night and while sleeping. They mimicked the symptoms i had before being diagnosed and getting on a cpap machine to sleep. I would be drenched in sweat and have borderline panic attacks at night. Waking up constantly with my heart racing. Now when i try tren, i get the same symptoms, but not as bad because i am on the cpap machine. I still get the sides because my machine is set to correct for when i am not on tren. The respiratory issues are what i believe now are the root of my tren sides. this is the best thread i have read in a while. I am almost sure this is the cause of my severe tren sides. ESF, go get checked for sleep apnea.
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Hmm... I read about some of the pulmonary affects of tren way back. I think I need to research that a bit more. I sweat a little bit but thankfully my body fat's low and I'm in really good cardiovascular health. The second I eat at night or hold a tad bit of water I WILL sweat like a beast though, so it's worth checking into.
First time my best friend ran tren, he asked me if it's normal to wake up in the middle of the night like you're choking. He says he wakes up and feels like he hasn't breathed for the last few minutes. He's an extremely lean bastard and very, very healthy (I've never met a healthier, strong and athletic family as his - also no history of SA whatsoever). But one day he passed out after training and woke up choking like a bastard and gasping for air. Very strange.
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wouldn't a girl notice if I had sleep apnea? (if she was sleeping next to me of course)
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Hmm... I read about some of the pulmonary affects of tren way back. I think I need to research that a bit more. I sweat a little bit but thankfully my body fat's low and I'm in really good cardiovascular health. The second I eat at night or hold a tad bit of water I WILL sweat like a beast though, so it's worth checking into.
First time my best friend ran tren, he asked me if it's normal to wake up in the middle of the night like you're choking. He says he wakes up and feels like he hasn't breathed for the last few minutes. He's an extremely lean bastard and very, very healthy (I've never met a healthier, strong and athletic family as his - also no history of SA whatsoever). But one day he passed out after training and woke up choking like a bastard and gasping for air. Very strange.
I have allergy induced asthma and was recently prescribed singulair. I did some research on it and its a leukotriene inhibitor. From what I have read, leukotrienes constrict the bronchial tubes in the lungs. I have read that tren causes the body to produce more leukotrienes than normal, which causes the tren cough as well as the diminished cardio effects. I would bet your friend had an overabundance of leukotrienes for whatever reason from the tren. I haven't ran tren since I've been on the singulair, but I read where a lot of guys are now running it (singulair) alongside tren to help out with the cough and lack of oxygen from cardio.
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I have allergy induced asthma and was recently prescribed singulair. I did some research on it and its a leukotriene inhibitor. From what I have read, leukotrienes constrict the bronchial tubes in the lungs. I have read that tren causes the body to produce more leukotrienes than normal, which causes the tren cough as well as the diminished cardio effects. I would bet your friend had an overabundance of leukotrienes for whatever reason from the tren. I haven't ran tren since I've been on the singulair, but I read where a lot of guys are now running it (singulair) alongside tren to help out with the cough and lack of oxygen from cardio.
Wow. Very interesting!
I remember the first time I ran tren. I used to have an exercise bike in my living room. Without changing my diet or training, I started really dragging ass and couldn't pin point why. I didn't read about the tren-cardio link until afterwards, so it wasn't placebo. Good stuff. I haven't even looked into anything yet but that'll help point me in the right direction. I think you're onto something.
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I have allergy induced asthma and was recently prescribed singulair. I did some research on it and its a leukotriene inhibitor. From what I have read, leukotrienes constrict the bronchial tubes in the lungs. I have read that tren causes the body to produce more leukotrienes than normal, which causes the tren cough as well as the diminished cardio effects. I would bet your friend had an overabundance of leukotrienes for whatever reason from the tren. I haven't ran tren since I've been on the singulair, but I read where a lot of guys are now running it (singulair) alongside tren to help out with the cough and lack of oxygen from cardio.
Great info!
Tren kills my cardio as well.
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first I've heard of a legit explanation of why tren affects cardio. I've never noticed any effect on cardio, but I've heard of it. a co-worker would complain about it, but he's a hypochondriac and once went to the hospital after drinking a bottle of Speed Stack (the preworkout RTD you see at gyms).
a couple of my clients have scripts for singular, i'll have to get some before the next time I run tren (which won't be for another 3-4 months most likely).
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My buddy is doing 1 amp parabolin/day along with me. I cant say about the sides since i just started. My buddy started sweating at night after the second day or so. Now it has been like 4 weeks already for him. His cardio is almost the same intensity like it eas before 1 hr/ day *7 days a week.
There is little cough though.
Last time he got tren from thosr finaplix-h pellets. The cough had gotten real bad after the 3rd week itself. The fillers in those pellets have definitely got to do something with all the extreme people report facing.
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My buddy is doing 1 amp parabolin/day along with me. I cant say about the sides since i just started. My buddy started sweating at night after the second day or so. Now it has been like 4 weeks already for him. His cardio is almost the same intensity like it eas before 1 hr/ day *7 days a week.
There is little cough though.
Last time he got tren from thosr finaplix-h pellets. The cough had gotten real bad after the 3rd week itself. The fillers in those pellets have definitely got to do something with all the extreme people report facing.
my tren cough is much worse with tren made from Raw powder than it ever was when I made it with pellets.
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my tren cough is much worse with tren made from Raw powder than it ever was when I made it with pellets.
Raw powder? Do you have a real lab at your place or is the chemistry carried out in your bathtub bro?
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I've been off tren for 2 weeks and I am also waking up drenched every night. By limiting carbs before bed i avoided the sweats while on tren, but off :Carb intake has no effects on it. No idea wtf is going on. I wake up soaked and freezing. Luckily my girl is a heavy sleeper and I don't wake her up
Switched over to 1250 test and 1000 deca for a winter bulk. This was just last week so no way this dose has built up enough to cause sweats
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Raw powder? Do you have a real lab at your place or is the chemistry carried out in your bathtub bro?
that's a little disrespectful, no?
who the fuck makes shit in a bathtub? are we mixing up rubbing alcohol and mouthwash and calling it "gin" ?
no... it's shit that gets injected into our bodies. if it wasn't clean, I wouldn't have any fucking customers no would I?
not a single fucking person, myself included, has had an infection or even a 'bad injection' from anything I produce.
and who still makes tren from pellets? maybe you're out of the loop, but it's not like it was in 2003 dude.
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that's a little disrespectful, no?
who the fuck makes shit in a bathtub? are we mixing up rubbing alcohol and mouthwash and calling it "gin" ?
no... it's shit that gets injected into our bodies. if it wasn't clean, I wouldn't have any fucking customers no would I?
not a single fucking person, myself included, has had an infection or even a 'bad injection' from anything I produce.
and who still makes tren from pellets? maybe you're out of the loop, but it's not like it was in 2003 dude.
I did make it before, but I did it in a proper manner. Won't go into detail, but trust me it was not in my bathroom. The gear was as good if not better than any tren i ever used. I would trust ESF with gear, he seems to really know what he is talking about and from his posts he knows plenty about preparing injectables. ESF is right, in the past UGL got away with bunk contaminated gear bc guys had few options, but now the market is flooded and if a supplier put out even one batch of bad gear, he would be ruined.
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Making gear isn't too hard. My buddy who runs a UGL had his chemist walk me through it and I brewed up a couple nice jugs of test prop and tren ace. Put them back in my shoulder (which doesn't take oils well) and it was a-okay.
It's the money grubbing pricks that brew shit with no regards for sterility that you need to watch out for. They normally don't last very long before being outed for selling dirty gear.
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that's a little disrespectful, no?
who the fuck makes shit in a bathtub? are we mixing up rubbing alcohol and mouthwash and calling it "gin" ?
no... it's shit that gets injected into our bodies. if it wasn't clean, I wouldn't have any fucking customers no would I?
not a single fucking person, myself included, has had an infection or even a 'bad injection' from anything I produce.
and who still makes tren from pellets? maybe you're out of the loop, but it's not like it was in 2003 dude.
I did not mean any disrespect bro ...just curious if you have a full commercial setup at home to
make gear and press tabs.
I think it would be real amazing.
Have you tried plant growth hormone by any chance? I am thinking of giving it a try after holidays.
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I did not mean any disrespect bro ...just curious if you have a full commercial setup at home to
make gear and press tabs.
I think it would be real amazing.
Have you tried plant growth hormone by any chance? I am thinking of giving it a try after holidays.
:D
Oh shizzle now it's on
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I did not mean any disrespect bro ...just curious if you have a full commercial setup at home to
make gear and press tabs.
I think it would be real amazing.
Have you tried plant growth hormone by any chance? I am thinking of giving it a try after holidays.
these are odd questions to be asking me, considering they're coming from you.. I've gotten a few PM's asking about you, saying you're offering odd 'services' and asking 'odd' questions.
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these are odd questions to be asking me, considering they're coming from you.. I've gotten a few PM's asking about you, saying you're offering odd 'services' and asking 'odd' questions.
Do you know how much he charges for blowjobs?
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these are odd questions to be asking me, considering they're coming from you.. I've gotten a few PM's asking about you, saying you're offering odd 'services' and asking 'odd' questions.
Lets not get like that now man
Remember how you felt when whitewidow did the same?
Now shake hands and make up
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L ets not get like that now man
Remember how you f E lt when whitewidow did the same?
N O w shake hands and make up
did the same? no.. this is a bit different.
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Haha DAMN!
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i have been on low carbs these days,what i noticed whenever i have more,not excessive but just a little bit more carbs i'll sweat at night
yeah I notice fat people sweat after they eat. And they have trouble breathing.
my guess is just the metabolism is in overdrive. Lots of food to digest and process.
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these are odd questions to be asking me, considering they're coming from you.. I've gotten a few PM's asking about you, saying you're offering odd 'services' and asking 'odd' questions.
;D
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well, it's been a few weeks now that I've been on about 1.5g test (maybe 1700 or so.. I dunno), and I still woke up this morning with my comforter "heavy" with sweat.
the sweat seems to be mostly around my face/neck area.. not so much my legs or mid torso. it's odd, and I can't figure it out. lol.... luckily I've been sleeping alone lately, so it's not that big of deal. just getting tired of changing my sheets and pillow cases every day or every couple days.
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well andy the cause of nights sweats are caused by people sweatig at night.
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I usually wake up in the middle of the night with the sheets and pillow drenched. I think it only wakes me up on the really bad nights.
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it seems to happen only when I'm in bed covered up with the AC blasting.
when I fall asleep on my couch in the living room with the heater blasting, i'll wake up at about 6am without being drenched... it's odd.
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My buddy has bumped up trena-h to 1606.5mg/day with 100 mg testosterona suspensiona and 40mg winny. Carbs are less than 30mg/day, only from veggies. Diet is just fish, nuts, veggies, reisins. Strangely no particular night sweats till now. Just general body heat all day.