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Title: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 10, 2013, 07:16:43 AM
Predictions? Does anyone believe in him anymore?


My personal question to all the fighters here, wtf happened to him?

Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: booty on December 10, 2013, 07:18:25 AM
Frank is a jerk...full of himself and thinks all women should fall at his knees. 
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: The Idol on December 10, 2013, 07:23:28 AM
Frank is a jerk...full of himself and thinks all women should fall at his knees. 
What's the problem? He didn't pay you?
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: booty on December 10, 2013, 07:25:27 AM
What's the problem? He didn't pay you?
I am not posting here.  Only because of the creepy stalkers
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 10, 2013, 07:25:58 AM
Frank is a jerk...full of himself and thinks all women should fall at his knees. 

What? Did you meet him? Talk to him?
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: booty on December 10, 2013, 07:28:28 AM
What? Did you meet him? Talk to him?
He tried talking to me for months and I would ignore him.  Then he accused me of having zero sex drive and being too hot for him.  He said what made it worse was that I had a beautiful man trying to get to know me and i wasn't interested. 
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 10, 2013, 07:30:07 AM
He tried talking to me for months and I would ignore him.  Then he accused me of having zero sex drive and being too hot for him.  He said what made it worse was that I had a beautiful man trying to get to know me and i wasn't interested.  

Uh what? Frank Mir is married!

Why would he try to talk to you? Enlighten me here, is it something i'm missing.

Are you saying he visits Australia often? Isn't he in Las Vegas?
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 10, 2013, 07:31:20 AM
Can we get back to our kneeger Overeem?


Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: bigmc on December 10, 2013, 07:32:34 AM
it would appear that since he hasn't been jacked

his game has fallen through the floor
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: booty on December 10, 2013, 07:33:12 AM
Uh what? Frank Mir is married!

Why would he try to talk to you? Enlighten me here, is it something i'm missing.

Are you saying he visits Australia often? Isn't he in Las Vegas?

I should pm you.  
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 10, 2013, 08:24:10 AM
it would appear that since he hasn't been jacked

his game has fallen through the floor
He hasnt been the same since Falcon TKO'd him. Now he is working on Justin Bieber.

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Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 10, 2013, 08:42:59 AM
Overeem is still great, he had his last two fights won before he acted the prick. mir is slow, unnaggresive and washed up
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: mik1111 on December 10, 2013, 08:43:48 AM
He tried talking to me for months and I would ignore him.  Then he accused me of having zero sex drive and being too hot for him.  He said what made it worse was that I had a beautiful man trying to get to know me and i wasn't interested. 
LOL, you're so full of shit.
no male in their right mind would do even a shadow of that for a 50y old.

why lie?
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: manuelsonn on December 10, 2013, 08:45:00 AM
He tried talking to me for months and I would ignore him.  Then he accused me of having zero sex drive and being too hot for him.  He said what made it worse was that I had a beautiful man trying to get to know me and i wasn't interested. 
i cannot read one decent post without that babbete screaming for atention (if u speak with frank mir on fb doesnt men that its his acount) back tu uberem , he s all phisique, zero skill
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 10, 2013, 08:59:47 AM
Overeem is still great, he had his last two fights won before he acted the prick. mir is slow, unnaggresive and washed up
he was slow and out of shape and mentally not there .. I agree..

My question is:

"Is he another Mike Tyson? Destroying second hand fighters but getting his ass handed by the elite?"
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: mik1111 on December 10, 2013, 09:11:25 AM
Destroying second hand fighters but getting his ass handed by the elite?"
lol
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Shockwave on December 10, 2013, 09:27:12 AM
I see booty took no time in turning this thread into a booty thread.


bravo woman.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Hulkotron on December 10, 2013, 09:42:14 AM
Both would be Round 1 knock-outs by the Falcon.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Darren Avey on December 10, 2013, 10:26:40 AM
Allsteroids will lose. He sucks.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Rudee on December 10, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
I thought Overeem already fought Mir back in the early fall.   If not, when is this fight?
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: arce1988 on December 10, 2013, 01:10:37 PM
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Overeem needs to be a PED monster to win


that and his mental state
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: thebrink on December 10, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
same old overeem as pride days, guy really hasn't changed one bit. kicked ass for the first round then gassed , and now that hes huge his fights are over even quicker. hes got all the skill in the world just doesn't have the cardio or sometimes the heart to pull through.

there has been no change.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: macos on December 10, 2013, 02:09:04 PM
LOL, you're so full of shit.
no male in their right mind would do even a shadow of that for a 50y old.

why lie?

Excuse me sire,

I think i am pretty sure she is a 18yro gal inside.

Would love to have the honor to give her a good ride  ;)
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 10, 2013, 03:26:25 PM
same old overeem as pride days, guy really hasn't changed one bit. kicked ass for the first round then gassed , and now that hes huge his fights are over even quicker. hes got all the skill in the world just doesn't have the cardio or sometimes the heart to pull through.

there has been no change.
outside of jds and cain though who in hw division is elite? Hes beaten werdum
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: King Shizzo on December 10, 2013, 03:30:04 PM
Mir has always been my favorite fighter. I suspect that he is a fall boy for the UFC though. I'm sure that Reem will whoop his ass.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: thebrink on December 10, 2013, 03:54:29 PM
outside of jds and cain though who in hw division is elite? Hes beaten werdum

Barnett is an elite , but had bad showing against Cormier. He'll beat Junior imo.. Just not sure about Cain.


 

Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: arce1988 on December 10, 2013, 04:09:55 PM
Quote
hes got all the skill in the world just doesn't have the cardio or sometimes the heart to pull through.

there has been no change.

^
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: keanu on December 10, 2013, 04:16:26 PM
Besides the bad cardio, the Reem also has a glass chin. Not a good combo. He has to lower his drug usage because of a failed drug test with the UFC. If he can't over power an opponent in the first round or beginning of the second he is in trouble. Big trouble. 
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Marty Champions on December 10, 2013, 04:24:52 PM
overeem has too much muscle he needs a few years off from training
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: arce1988 on December 10, 2013, 04:43:38 PM
 the crystal chin sure as hell does NOT help
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: AD2100 on December 10, 2013, 06:44:24 PM

My question is:

"Is he another Mike Tyson? Destroying second hand fighters but getting his ass handed by the elite?"
Great quote! :D
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Maddy on December 10, 2013, 07:01:11 PM
He tried talking to me for months and I would ignore him.  Then he accused me of having zero sex drive and being too hot for him.  He said what made it worse was that I had a beautiful man trying to get to know me and i wasn't interested. 

booty
these are
serious aligations
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: arce1988 on December 10, 2013, 07:33:46 PM
booty beat ufc hw champ mir! (mir used to tap me       too much size and strength on top of his already great ground game)
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 10, 2013, 08:45:34 PM
booty beat ufc hw champ mir! (mir used to tap me       too much size and strength on top of his already great ground game)

Yes, Booty is better than Arce now!

groundgame only, didn't speak of the standup skills :D
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: booty on December 10, 2013, 08:47:50 PM
Yes, Booty is better than Arce now!

groundgame only, didn't speak of the standup skills :D
I am a lover not a fighter.  Well I might throw a bucket of ice cold water, but that's just play fun.   :D
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: arce1988 on December 10, 2013, 08:48:38 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: dustin on December 10, 2013, 08:51:05 PM
Can we get back to our kneeger Overeem?




Man, I almost forgot how crazy his highlight reels were. Although he shit the bed and lost some stupid fights, he was amazing in his prime.

Sad thing is that even with all the gear, he's not the same fighter anymore. I don't think he'd ever be close to where he was. Sad but true. I was a big fan but it sucks to see that his heart for combative sports is gone.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 11, 2013, 05:33:35 PM
overeem has too much muscle he needs a few years off from training
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Royalty on December 11, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
I like Alistair's personality better than Mir's

I think that both are well spoken.

Im rooting for Alistair in this fight.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 01:07:11 AM
I think it's a miss match. Mir will get hammered.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: smoothasf on December 12, 2013, 01:29:20 AM
I'm a rematch he would kill Bigfoot, he was easily controlling that fight untill he started acting cocky. Glass jaw comments are a little silly I've seen him take some big shots in k1. If a 270pound guy catches anybody blind they will go down.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 01:30:48 AM
I'm a rematch he would kill Bigfoot, he was easily controlling that fight untill he started acting cocky. Glass jaw comments are a little silly I've seen him take some big shots in k1. If a 270pound guy catches anybody blind they will go down.
Agreed. It baffles me though. He just stopped and started getting pounded and ko'd. I see him as the best striker, one of the most imposing physically, great ground game, excellent footwork, hardest hitter, what gives?  ???
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2013, 01:35:16 AM
Agreed. It baffles me though. He just stopped and started getting pounded and ko'd. I see him as the best striker, one of the most imposing physically, great ground game, excellent footwork, hardest hitter, what gives?  ???
Probably took a dive for the money.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 01:43:29 AM
Probably took a dive for the money.
I would not be surprised.. the first and last part of the fight seemed like 2 diff people. Yet, Travis front kicks him KO?? wtf
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2013, 01:49:19 AM
I would not be surprised.. the first and last part of the fight seemed like 2 diff people. Yet, Travis front kicks him KO?? wtf
Seriously this stuff still goes on sev. Boxing more notorious for it but I think it exists in MMA/UFC. Say a person gets offered $20K to lose but would only get $10K to win from a promoter what would most do.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 01:51:12 AM
Seriously this stuff still goes on sev. Boxing more notorious for it but I think it exists in MMA/UFC. Say a person gets offered $20K to lose but would only get $10K to win from a promoter what would most do.
I am 100% positive fights get fixed. Why though? I mean he was cleaning house. The travis fight he took a silly shot from an awkward striker. And this is a guy who ran through the BEST K1 strikers. I don't get it.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2013, 05:15:02 AM
I am 100% positive fights get fixed. Why though? I mean he was cleaning house. The travis fight he took a silly shot from an awkward striker. And this is a guy who ran through the BEST K1 strikers. I don't get it.

Bas Rutten said that Alistair has always had a weak chin.

Bas said that Alistair has been dropping his hands WAY too much lately (since he came to the UFC).

Alistair always kept his hands up in K-1 events
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 06:34:05 AM
Bas Rutten said that Alistair has always had a weak chin.

Bas said that Alistair has been dropping his hands WAY too much lately (since he came to the UFC).

Alistair always kept his hands up in K-1 events
I agree. In K1 his hands were waay up. In UFC he drops them lower. So what is it? Bad tactics? Does not follow the game plan?

Whatțs your take on this che? Arce?
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: keanu on December 12, 2013, 06:44:12 AM
I'm a rematch he would kill Bigfoot, he was easily controlling that fight untill he started acting cocky. Glass jaw comments are a little silly I've seen him take some big shots in k1. If a 270pound guy catches anybody blind they will go down.

He doesn't recover from bigger shots like many of the other heavyweights do. Then he is a sitting duck. Even when he was 205, and got hit by sub 200 lbs guys his jaw was glass.In the Bigfoot fight he dominated the first 2 rounds, but took a couple of shots later in the 2nd round. By the start of the thrid round he was a sitting duck with his arms down. He just stood in front of Bigfoot, got caught with some moderate uppercuts, didn't clinch, couldn't recover.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: keanu on December 12, 2013, 06:46:23 AM
I would not be surprised.. the first and last part of the fight seemed like 2 diff people. Yet, Travis front kicks him KO?? wtf

The Reem would not take a dive. His brand is very popular, he makes good endorsement and seminar money. The two losses to average heavyweights have taken him off the elite list, and back to the ham and eggers. He was destroying Travis and Bigfoot easily, but in both cases he stood right in front of them with his hands down, and he was tired. No footwork, no defense.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: keanu on December 12, 2013, 06:51:51 AM
Agreed. It baffles me though. He just stopped and started getting pounded and ko'd. I see him as the best striker, one of the most imposing physically, great ground game, excellent footwork, hardest hitter, what gives?  ???

He is a good striker but just has a one-two. Whereas guys like Liddell, Valasques or JDS will throw 5 or more punches in a row if an opponent is hurt. Add in the lack of conditioning and power (he is much softer in his last 2 fights since lowering his dosages after a failed drug test but carrying the same weight). Think about it. When you get exhausted and tired, your chin isn't as strong. You are ready to go. The power goes. Try fighting after a hard run.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 12:00:38 PM
The Reem would not take a dive. His brand is very popular, he makes good endorsement and seminar money. The two losses to average heavyweights have taken him off the elite list, and back to the ham and eggers. He was destroying Travis and Bigfoot easily, but in both cases he stood right in front of them with his hands down, and he was tired. No footwork, no defense.
Maybe we have seen the best of him  :-\
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: arce1988 on December 12, 2013, 12:38:23 PM
his mind and his heart


crystal chin


cardio

weak on less ped


chuck brutally khtfo


and that was at 205


I never got the Overeem brothers


they had so much potential


to see them lose to so many people with less



boggles the very mind
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 12:56:49 PM
Valentijin is not even fighting anymore I believe. Alistair is an enigma.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: arce1988 on December 12, 2013, 12:58:16 PM
they were both very good


val easily choked out randy and very very fast


I was there


Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 12:59:44 PM
Overseem in full steroid hulk mode has the power to knock Mir out.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 01:00:12 PM
they were both very good


val easily choked out randy and very very fast


I was there



Saw him KO a romanian can with a knee strike a couple of years back. I hated Alistair in K1. But he won. Then he crossed over and won, and won. Then this..
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2013, 01:18:16 PM
1st loss: Alistair clearly underestimated Bigfoot..... and Alistair was unable to hurt Bigfoot at all. Bigfoot is a TOUGH dude. Bigfoot was not afraid to throw down with Alistair (or Mark Hunt) and won due to his mega-chin, punch combo's and conditioning. Between rounds, Bigfoot was calm as hell. His corner does a GREAT job keeping him calm.

2nd loss: Jeramy Browne's legs are so damn long.... The guy is like 6'7". Alistair thought that he was out of range (wrong!). Alistair was standing a few inches to close to Browne. I feel Alistair is better than Browne, and would probably win in a rematch.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 01:19:39 PM
1st loss: Alistair clearly underestimated Bigfoot..... and Alistair was unable to hurt Bigfoot at all. Bigfoot is a TOUGH dude. Bigfoot was not afraid to throw down with Alistair (or Mark Hunt) and won due to his mega-chin, punch combo's and conditioning. Between rounds, Bigfoot was calm as hell. His corner does a GREAT job keeping him calm.

2nd loss: Jeramy Browne's legs are so damn long.... The guy is like 6'7". Alistair thought that he was out of range (wrong!). Alistair was standing a few inches to close to Browne. I feel Alistair is better than Browne, and would probably win in a rematch.
When he is his normal self he should KO both.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: arce1988 on December 12, 2013, 01:20:11 PM
 exactly   when he is on his A game, he KO's them both easily
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 12, 2013, 01:24:00 PM
exactly   when he is on his A game, he KO's them both easily
But you and I know that the best showing does not count when you are there fighting .. it matters what you can bring THEN ...IF you raise up to the ocassion
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: arce1988 on December 12, 2013, 01:28:00 PM
we shall see
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: thebrink on December 12, 2013, 04:53:40 PM
He doesn't recover from bigger shots like many of the other heavyweights do. Then he is a sitting duck. Even when he was 205, and got hit by sub 200 lbs guys his jaw was glass.In the Bigfoot fight he dominated the first 2 rounds, but took a couple of shots later in the 2nd round. By the start of the thrid round he was a sitting duck with his arms down. He just stood in front of Bigfoot, got caught with some moderate uppercuts, didn't clinch, couldn't recover.

this. reem is too big and carries too much muscle. gasses quickly, doesn't like getting hit. we saw this in his fights with Kharatonov and Arona.
Title: Re: Overeem vs Frank Mir
Post by: Hulkotron on December 13, 2013, 08:18:53 AM
All Stare Over Him