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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Slick Vic on January 05, 2006, 07:25:47 PM
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The FIRST man to ever beat Arnold.... Kurt Marnul
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery7/mg246.jpg
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And the last.... Sergio Oliva
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery2/m386.jpg)
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The FIRST man to ever beat Arnold.... Kurt Marnul
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery7/mg246.jpg
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And the last.... Sergio Oliva
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery2/m386.jpg)
you forgot mike mentzer at the 80 olympia.....
;D
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Mike Mentzer lost ... and then he cried his way back to his room and quit .. yes .. quit bodybuilding! dam cry baby!!!
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The FIRST man to ever beat Arnold.... Kurt Marnul
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery7/mg246.jpg
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And the last.... Sergio Oliva
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery2/m386.jpg)
check out Arnie looking at Uncle Joe saying " you told me I was going to beat Oliva!!"
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Defeated just months ago, more potentially on the horizon:
I have absorbed my defeat
Arnold Schwarzenegger asked Californians to move beyond a year filled with acrimony over his failed special election and devoid of significant political accomplishment.
"I have absorbed my defeat and I've learned my lesson. And the people, who always have the last word, sent a clear message -- cut the warfare, cool the rhetoric, find common ground and fix the problems together," Schwarzenegger said before a packed Assembly chamber. "To my fellow Californians, I say, 'Message received."'
The governor's speech was his third State of the State address but was widely viewed as among the most pivotal appearances of his political career. Facing re-election in November, his task was to persuade Californians to set aside any lingering bitterness over last year's election campaign and regain the bipartisan image that made him so popular his first year in office.
The vision Schwarzenegger laid out in the 23-minute speech proposed a bold program for rebuilding the state's aging freeways, bridges, schools, universities, court systems and levees. He also proposed building two new prisons and improving the state's air quality.
The governor proposed spending $222.6 billion in public works improvements over 20 years, to be paid in part by $68 billion in new general obligation bonds.
His plan would need to be approved by the Legislature and then go before voters in a series of elections between 2006 and 2014.
Schwarzenegger said his plan is necessary to keep pace with California's expanding population, which is expected to hit 46 million people by 2025. The state has not embarked on such a massive series of public works projects since the 1960s, and the governor said it faces an estimated $500 billion in so-called infrastructure needs over the next two decades.
"Our systems are at the breaking point now," he said. "But we cannot be overwhelmed by this reality. We cannot freeze in the face of this future. We cannot bury our head in the sand and say, 'If we don't build it, they won't come."'
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wow
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Mike Mentzer lost ... and then he cried his way back to his room and quit .. yes .. quit bodybuilding! dam cry baby!!!
Waaaaa Waaaaaa Waaaaaa...poor Mikey. Arnold REALLY fucked Mike in the head. Not only did he make Mike quit bodybuilding, he got him to use drugs to escape the pain of losing Mr. Olympia. You da man, Arnold. ;D
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Arnold has actually lost about 5 shows
Marnul
Yorton
Oliva
Zane
and 1-2 contests when he was very young
Pollux can confiem this
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Mentzner and Tom Platz after the 1980 Olympia...
(http://www.irocknroll.com/images/Hall_Oates_Program.jpg)
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Waaaaa Waaaaaa Waaaaaa...poor Mikey. Arnold REALLY fucked Mike in the head. Not only did he make Mike quit bodybuilding, he got him to use drugs to escape the pain of losing Mr. Olympia. You da man, Arnold. ;D
Don't give Arnold so much credit. Mike was already into taking various types of speed to "stay more alert for studies" AND for cutting up. ;D
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Arnold has actually lost about 5 shows
Marnul
Yorton
Oliva
Zane
and 1-2 contests when he was very young
Pollux can confiem this
Actually, it was 3-5 contests when he was younger. And the above men you mentioned are not the only ones to have beaten Arnold. Add Harald Maurer and Helmut Cerncic. Here is Arnold at the 1964 Mr. Austria where he took 3rd. Kurt Marnul (the winner) can be seen with his trademark shades. 8)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/gruppe3.jpg)
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Actually, it was 3-5 contests when he was younger. And the above men you mentioned are not the only ones to have beaten Arnold. Add Harald Maurer and Helmut Cerncic. Here is Arnold at the 1964 Mr. Austria where he took 3rd. Kurt Marnul (the winner) can be seen with his trademark shades. 8)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/gruppe3.jpg)
Just where the hell do you get thgis stuff? I have never ever seen that pic...you are the man, Pollux
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Just where the hell do you get thgis stuff? I have never ever seen that pic...you are the man, Pollux
I know. ;D
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I know. ;D
Doesn't Marnul drive around today with a goofy car that has many pictures of him and aronld stenciled all over the exterior of his car?
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Actually, it was 3-5 contests when he was younger. And the above men you mentioned are not the only ones to have beaten Arnold. Add Harald Maurer and Helmut Cerncic. Here is Arnold at the 1964 Mr. Austria where he took 3rd. Kurt Marnul (the winner) can be seen with his trademark shades. 8)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/gruppe3.jpg)
Believe it or not that is me on the far right. I didn't bother to shave or tan because I thought the standard would be shit.
At that time I was just about to leave the Blackwatch after spending 5 years as a master sergent in Berlin. At that time the Brits, Russians, Americans and Frenchies guarded checkpoint charlie on the east Berlin border, Happy Days.
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Doesn't Marnul drive around today with a goofy car that has many pictures of him and aronld stenciled all over the exterior of his car?
Yup. Actually looks ridiculous.
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Doesn't Marnul drive around today with a goofy car that has many pictures of him and aronld stenciled all over the exterior of his car?
Cool - any pictures of the car?
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Mike Mentzer lost ... and then he cried his way back to his room and quit .. yes .. quit bodybuilding! dam cry baby!!!
Bump for the truth
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Believe it or not that is me on the far right. I didn't bother to shave or tan because I thought the standard would be shit.
At that time I was just about to leave the Blackwatch after spending 5 years as a master sergent in Berlin. At that time the Brits, Russians, Americans and Frenchies guarded checkpoint charlie on the east Berlin border, Happy Days.
Can anyone else verify this statement?, or is Jimmy just pullin our tail?
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Cool - any pictures of the car?
It was in an article in either MM or IM magazine a year or two back
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Can anyone else verify this statement?, or is Jimmy just pullin our tail?
And I'm the guy to the left of Arnold. Happy Days. ::)
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Believe it or not that is me on the far right. I didn't bother to shave or tan because I thought the standard would be shit.
At that time I was just about to leave the Blackwatch after spending 5 years as a master sergent in Berlin. At that time the Brits, Russians, Americans and Frenchies guarded checkpoint charlie on the east Berlin border, Happy Days.
Did you place ahead of Arnie?
Did you talk to him that day? waht did he say, what was his demeanor?
was a big crowd there?
What diod the band play when you guys posed? was it like polka music?
I really want to know...not joking,
Mike
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David New has researched Arnold's early contests- buying relevant copies of German language mags and having them translated. What I had believed proved to be inaccurate.
Here is a thread- which is not David's latest research- but appears on Wayne Gallasch's site:
http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=NEWSARICLES&template=NEWS&nid=147&cnid=1&site=1
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Cool - any pictures of the car?
Can be seen in FLEX July 2007.
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Did you place ahead of Arnie?
Did you talk to him that day? waht did he say, what was his demeanor?
was a big crowd there?
What diod the band play when you guys posed? was it like polka music?
I really want to know...not joking,
Mike
Unfortunately Jimmy Thomson is telling a fib, Moosejay.
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you forgot mike mentzer at the 80 olympia.....
;D
Mike Mentzer got dwarfed, and had no chest and a podgy belly.
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Guys that really IS me.
Some pic were posted on Getbig of me when I was 70 and my face is the same. I'm too weak from the Chemo to look up other pics but it really is me. Only the top 3 were announced but maybe Joe Roark has info which will show I was there.
that is very cool if you were there
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Guys that really IS me.
Some pic were posted on Getbig of me when I was 70 and my face is the same. I'm too weak from the Chemo to look up other pics but it really is me. Only the top 3 were announced but maybe Joe Roark has info which will show I was there.
Can anyone else verify Mr. Thomsons statement?
If true, he was quite the bodybuilder, I must say.
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Guys that really IS me.
Some pic were posted on Getbig of me when I was 70 and my face is the same. I'm too weak from the Chemo to look up other pics but it really is me. Only the top 3 were announced but maybe Joe Roark has info which will show I was there.
I was there too! It's crazy to imagine I was competiting against Arnold back in those days, but I'm too tired and lazy to look up other pics, but I was really there. Only the top 3 were announced, but maybe Joe Roark has info which will show I was there. ::)
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Believe it or not that is me on the far right. I didn't bother to shave or tan because I thought the standard would be shit.
At that time I was just about to leave the Blackwatch after spending 5 years as a master sergent in Berlin. At that time the Brits, Russians, Americans and Frenchies guarded checkpoint charlie on the east Berlin border, Happy Days.
That is not Jimmy Thomson onstage with Arnold at the 1964 Mr. Austria!
The contestant is actually Adolf Ziegner, who went on to compete in the NABBA Universe and the IFBB World's. The original contest report for the 1964 Mr. Austria is in issue 21 of Der Muskelbilder, which has more pictures of Ziegner. Jimmy's name doesn't appear in the report and Jimmy isn't any of the other contestants in that photo either. Neither does Jimmy appear in any of the two dozen or so onstage and backstage photos that have survived from the three contests held that day. The contests were held in Graz, Austria. Quite a way from Berlin.
Would a British citizen be allowed to enter the Mr. Austria anyway?
Perhaps it was another contest in Graz or Germany that Jimmy entered. If he lets us know, I'll be happy to look it up.
The picture was posted by Harald Maurer (2nd from right in the line-up). http://www.mahag.com/harry/spo.htm Another line-up pic on Harald's site has Ziegner standing front and centre.
Arnold was defeated in 4 contests in 1964/5.
1964 Mr. Steiermark (4th place, 26th April, Graz). Harald Maurer won.
1964 Mr. Herkules (3rd place, 26th April, Graz). Helmut Cerncic won.
1964 Mr. Austria (3rd place, 26th April, Graz). Marnul won.
1965 Mr. Austria (not 1st, Spring, Graz). Arnold's placing unknown, Marnul won.
There may have been another contest in 1965, which Arnold may have won but that hasn't been confirmed yet. Arnold didn't compete in 1963.
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you forgot mike mentzer at the 80 olympia.....
;D
Mike Mentzer..........Mike Mentzer.............oh yeah the guy that lost to Arnold before the show even started. He later got into philosophical ramblings, went nuts, drank quarts of his own piss and slept on the streets. Got fat started smoking and telling everybody that one set was all you need for one whole week and even up to a month!!!! hhahahahahahahahahahahah
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DCN, are you David New?
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Early pic of Adolf Zeigner,and a couple from the 76 Universe.
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Ironically, Jimmy and Ziegner probably came face to face at a NABBA universe show at some point. Does anyone know in which years they both competed?
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Adolf was in the 68 and 69 Universe,not sure what year Jimmy competed.
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Ziegner also did 1983. I have a complete set of Universe programmes from '64-'73, as well as a complete set of H&S covering 66-77. I'd go through them but there are too many. Could Jimmy narrow it down for us? I've seen pictures of him as a senior, it would be interesting to see how he looked when younger.
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Ziegner also did 1983. I have a complete set of Universe programmes from '64-'73, as well as a complete set of H&S covering 66-77. I'd go through them but there are too many. Could Jimmy narrow it down for us? I've seen pictures of him as a senior, it would be interesting to see how he looked when younger.
It may have been the 83 Universe as you say,heres a link to a thread and pics i posted of Jimmy.One of the members on ironage says he competed in the Masters in Scotland in 83,so he may have qualified for the Universe then.
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php/topic,9115.0.html
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Arnold = overrated
fuck you very much.
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Arnold = overrated
Watch your mouth, convict! >:(
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Arnold = My Daddy
I love him very much.
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When Big Mike M lost to Arnold he said "I am not going to shove Needles in my arse for a year for this shit"Boooooooooooooom and never stepped back on stage.Oh and Helmut Cerncic went on to doing Live Sex acts on stage.At one time both Mike and Helmut were great guys.
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i am pretty sure arnolds daddy was the first man to beat him
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When Big Mike M lost to Arnold he said "I am not going to shove Needles in my arse for a year for this shit"Boooooooooooooom and never stepped back on stage.Oh and Helmut Cerncic went on to doing Live Sex acts on stage.At one time both Mike and Helmut were great guys.
So he started putting them in his delts?