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just another fox news viewer :D
Source: abc News
Officials at the school in Rio Rancho, about 15 miles north of Albuquerque, announced Friday that the teacher recently was disciplined for his comments to the student, but they declined to say how, KOB-TV reported (http://goo.gl/GYqcJr).
The move came after students at Cleveland High School were told they could come to class dressed as Santa, an elf or a reindeer.
Michael Rougier said his ninth-grade son, Christopher, arrived wearing a Santa hat and beard, and the teacher asked the boy: "Don't you know Santa Clause is white? Why are you wearing that?"
The teacher's name was not released, and attempts by The Associated Press to reach school officials Saturday were unsuccessful.
Michael Rougier said the teacher's comments enraged him.
"There's no room for that in the classroom," he said. "Whether this teacher felt Christopher may have been wearing this out of context, there's no room for it. There's just no room for it."
The incident happened the same week that Fox News Channel's Megyn Kelly said on the air that both Santa Claus and Jesus were white. Her comments drew national attention and prompted a slew of heated comments on blogs and social media sites.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/teacher-disciplined-santa-white-remark-21221067
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Despite how Santa has been marketed in recent times, he comes from the European culture and traditions. My theory is that because Kwanza, a rip off of Jewish customs, didn't take off like blacks had hoped, they are trying to appropriate the traditional Christmas iconography.
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Santa IS white though...
Why would that be a problem? There was no lie here.
If you can't say someone is white who IS white... then you have a huge problem.
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Santa IS white though...
Why would that be a problem? There was no lie here.
If you can't say someone is white who IS white... then you have a huge problem
have you seen him lately ;D
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have you seen him lately ;D
Every year. He's in pretty much every shopping mall around this time.
He is a white dude.
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People should respect cultural traditions.
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Every year. He's in pretty much every shopping mall around this time.
He is a white dude.
that's not the real santa that's just one of his many helpers, the real santa "the boss" is black ;D
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that's not the real santa that's just one of his many helpers, the real santa "the boss" is black ;D
When was the last time a black man was actually the guy at the top?
Remember, for every Kobe, there's a Buss...
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When was the last time a black man was actually the guy at the top?
Remember, for every Kobe, there's a Buss...
Obama ;D
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Obama ;D
Its his white half.
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Its his white half.
;D
I bet blacken can't name 2 other black guys that run anything.
;)
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been on this site so long forgot he was half white
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Its his white half.
hahah you just ruined his night archer
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been on this site so long forgot he was half white
Hes only black when they are mad at him.
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;D
I bet blacken can't name 2 other black guys that run anything.
;)
just as long as santa's black I'm good
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just as long as santa's black I'm good
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just as long as santa's black I'm good
Come on, I thought liberals were about respecting culture.
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Come on, I thought liberals were about respecting culture.
go in a brother's home and you'll find black santa's ,black angels and even a black jesus
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Despite how Santa has been marketed in recent times, he comes from the European culture and traditions. My theory is that because Kwanza, a rip off of Jewish customs, didn't take off like blacks had hoped, they are trying to appropriate the traditional Christmas iconography.
This^
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People should respect cultural traditions.
White culture, the culture that is almost solely responsible for modern day life is the only culture that you don't have to respect.
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go in a brother's home and you'll find black santa's ,black angels and even a black jesus
I have a jewish jesus in my home. A little swarthy fella with a jewfro.
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.colbertnation.com%2Fthe-colbert-report-videos%2F431282%2Fdecember-12-2013%2Fmegyn-kelly-on-santa-s-skin-color&ei=LiOtUtWuNsflsAS2sICQBw&usg=AFQjCNF6tkOpqzg_LNw4GSw4GKRduwxYQA
:D :D
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Santa cant be black - pm me for details
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Santa cant be black - pm me for details
This is true because he isn't real.
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This is true because he isn't real.
SANTA gave toys away for free to others.
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A black Santa . . . . .. .
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just another fox news viewer :D
Source: abc News
Officials at the school in Rio Rancho, about 15 miles north of Albuquerque, announced Friday that the teacher recently was disciplined for his comments to the student, but they declined to say how, KOB-TV reported (http://goo.gl/GYqcJr).
The move came after students at Cleveland High School were told they could come to class dressed as Santa, an elf or a reindeer.
Michael Rougier said his ninth-grade son, Christopher, arrived wearing a Santa hat and beard, and the teacher asked the boy: "Don't you know Santa Clause is white? Why are you wearing that?"
The teacher's name was not released, and attempts by The Associated Press to reach school officials Saturday were unsuccessful.
Michael Rougier said the teacher's comments enraged him.
"There's no room for that in the classroom," he said. "Whether this teacher felt Christopher may have been wearing this out of context, there's no room for it. There's just no room for it."
The incident happened the same week that Fox News Channel's Megyn Kelly said on the air that both Santa Claus and Jesus were white. Her comments drew national attention and prompted a slew of heated comments on blogs and social media sites.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/teacher-disciplined-santa-white-remark-21221067
OG Santa Approves
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/St_Nicholas_Icon_Sinai_13th_century.jpg/170px-St_Nicholas_Icon_Sinai_13th_century.jpg)
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You're as bad as Wiggs.
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Yeah, how many kids would believe in Santa if he were black. Sneak into your house while you were sleeping and actually leaving shit behind? No way.
Pretty much the same damn reason the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy are white too.
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Yeah, how many kids would believe in Santa if he were black. Sneak into your house while you were sleeping and actually leaving shit behind? No way.
Pretty much the same damn reason the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy are white too.
Why is it so hard for those on the left to respect cultural traditions?
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Yeah, how many kids would believe in Santa if he were black. Sneak into your house while you were sleeping and actually leaving shit behind? No way.
Pretty much the same damn reason the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy are white too.
:D
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Why is it so hard for those on the left to respect cultural traditions?
Probably because it has been demonstrably proven that those on the left prefer facts to fiction.
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Probably because it has been demonstrably proven that those on the left prefer facts to fiction.
I'll believe it when I see it. Neither side runs on facts. You wouldn't know a fact if it came up and bit you on the ass.
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Probably because it has been demonstrably proven that those on the left prefer facts to fiction.
That's just a damn lie... (More fiction).
When it comes to politics, they both lie and create fiction to suit their agenda.
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Probably because it has been demonstrably proven that those on the left prefer facts to fiction.
hahahah thats funny convict
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That's just a damn lie... (More fiction).
When it comes to politics, they both lie and create fiction to suit their agenda.
True, ...but at least Liberal lies have a modicum of intelligence to them verses Conservative lies which are just batshit crazy and based on superstition & fear. Decisions made based on fear are always stupid. Fear addles the brain.
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True, ...but at least Liberal lies have a modicum of intelligence to them verses Conservative lies which are just batshit crazy and based on superstition & fear. Decisions made based on fear are always stupid. Fear addles the brain.
Both make decisions based primarily on irrational fear and misguided idealism. You just happen to agree with some of it so you can't see its utter nonsense.
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True, ...but at least Liberal lies have a modicum of intelligence to them verses Conservative lies which are just batshit crazy and based on superstition & fear. Decisions made based on fear are always stupid. Fear addles the brain.
Every conservative viewpoint is not a "Fear tactic".
Are there some? Certainly, but it didn't keep Liberals from using the same exact viewpoint and tactics when it suits their purposes.
(See wars in Afghanistan and Iraq along with the Patriot Act)
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You're as bad as Wiggs.
No...the establishment of Santa was in a location Byzantine Anatolia now known as Turkey. Santa is actually a Turkish person so he would look as much....he's not a cracker
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No...the establishment of Santa was in a location Byzantine Anatolia now known as Turkey. Santa is actually a Turkish person so he would look as much....he's not a cracker
He was Greek and the mythos is largely Northern European and European american in origin. One thing for certain, he wasn't black. Learn the facts, Vince.
I'm reposted this from another thread I posted on.
They reminded us that Santa Claus is based on St. Nicholas, a Greek who lived in what is now Turkey and would probably have had olive-colored skin, no freckles, and thus not be a white man at all.
It’s true that linguistic corruption eventually transformed “Saint Nikolaos” into “Santa Claus.” It’s also true that the real-life St. Nick was known for his gift-giving ways. But that’s where most of the similarities seem to end. Otherwise, the St. Nicholas legend veers off into other weird pathways such as how he liked to help sailors and how he saved three poor daughters from becoming hookers and the time where he resurrected three boys who’d been chopped to death by a butcher.
Other major elements of the Santa Claus legend seem to have been supplied by Northern European mythology that got subsumed into Christianity as it conquered the continent. Northern Germans and Scandinavians celebrated a holiday called Yule around the winter solstice. During Yule season, the white-bearded pagan god Odin would traverse the skies by night on his eight-legged horse. Children would place boots near the chimney filled with straw for Odin’s horse to eat. In the morning they’d awake to find the straw replaced with gifts and candy. It is thought that Odin’s eight-legged horse would later morph into eight tiny reindeer and the boots would become Christmas stockings.
The British, Dutch, and others would add several layers to the Santa myth, but what’s important is that beyond St. Nicholas’s Greek origins, everything else about the legend appears to have germinated and developed in Northern Europe. (Further modifications were made to the Santa Claus myth in America, but Thomas Nast and Clement Clarke Moore also had skin as pink as bubble gum.) Santa Claus is a primarily Northern European cultural icon and therefore about as white as it gets.
His generosity made the legendary Nicholas a popular saint in medieval Europe, though a brief encounter with Google turned up no date for his actual sainthood. Hollanders, in particular, took a liking to St. Nicholas. In fact it may be safe to claim that the Santa Claus we know today had his roots in Holland.
He made his first known appearance in America in December, 1773 when a New York newspaper reported that Dutch families had gathered to honor his death, traditionally on December 6.
Sinter Klaas, as the Dutch knew him, was anglicized to Santa Claus and after enduring a series of makeovers, ended up with the iconic visage we recognize today.
That visage was canonized by a poem written in 1822 by Episcopal minister Clement Clarke Moore. Though intended for his three daughters, A Visit from St. Nicholas was reluctantly published. The brilliant professor of Oriental and Greek Literature is known as the author of T'was the Night Before Christmas.
In 1841 a retailer had the bright idea of creating a life-size Santa Claus to attract children to his shop with parents and their pocketbooks in tow. When thousands of kids showed up, the idea was copied by other stores with real-life Santas becoming the mainstay. By the end of the 19th century the Salvation Army got into the fray by dressing their bell ringers is Santa Claus costumes. By then Sinter Klaas had become truly Americanized and commercialized.
In 1881 a political cartoonist named Thomas Nast added a few pounds to Santa Claus when he literally drew on Moore's poem to create the the modern image of Santa Claus.
In 1939 a copywriter for Montgomery Ward department store, Robert L. May, added a reindeer named Rudolph. Ten years later May's friend, Johnny Marks, put a shortened version of his poem to music. That was recorded by Gene Autry and sold over two million copies.
All white people. It's ours, get the fuck over it.
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We all realize Santa Claus in the United States is just a fictional character, right?
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On a side note, the Turkish people were of predominantly European stock before the influx of Muslim Arabs and still are largely European genetically. White people come in many hues from olive skinned to bone white. The spainards who are olives skinned where considered white by native peoples in America as were the Portuguese in Africa and Asia.
Get over, he's ours.
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We all realize Santa Claus in the United States is just a fictional character, right?
Yeah, I just dislike cultural revisionism in all it's forms. It's also strange to me that because Nicholas was Greek/Turkish and of an olive complexion that somehow means he's somehow closer to blacks. My mother is olive skinned and dark hair. It's a weird rationalization. As far as I'm concerned Santa can be of any color but don't bullshit about what his origin is and what he looks like.
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Yeah, I just dislike cultural revisionism in all it's forms. It's also strange to me that because Nicholas was Greek/Turkish and of an olive complexion that somehow means he's somehow closer to blacks. My mother is olive skinned and dark hair. It's a weird rationalization. As far as I'm concerned Santa can be of any color but don't bullshit about what his origin is and what he looks like.
This is one of the dumbest debates I can remember. Next we'll be arguing about whether Shaft was black, whether Bruce Lee was Chinese, whether Speedy Gonzalez was Mexican . . . .
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This is one of the dumbest debates I can remember. Next we'll be arguing about whether Shaft was black, whether Bruce Lee was Chinese, whether Speedy Gonzalez was Mexican . . . .
It is pretty silly but the bullshit arguments are what interest me. This is obviously an example of what the right might call cultural Marxism.
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It is pretty silly but the bullshit arguments are what interest me. This is obviously an example of what the right might call cultural Marxism.
What's to argue about? It's a fictional character. I don't think it's an example of anything other than all of us having too much time on our hands. lol
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What's to argue about? It's a fictional character. I don't think it's an example of anything other than all of us having too much time on our hands. lol
That's probably true but I always feel compelled to call bullshit when I see it. Pretty soon they will be arguing that Santa Claus is a sexist idea and more time should be given to Mrs. Claus
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This is one of the dumbest debates I can remember. Next we'll be arguing about whether Shaft was black, whether Bruce Lee was Chinese, whether Speedy Gonzalez was Mexican . . . .
Exactly, but for the sake of correctness, I have to point out that megyn was wrong in the vidoe, john stewart was in fact correct. However, I would say with all that said Santa is white. I have never pictured a sand black coming down my hut shaft with tabouleh and oil.
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Exactly, but for the sake of correctness, I have to point out that megyn was wrong in the vidoe, john stewart was in fact correct. However, I would say with all that said Santa is white. I have never pictured a sand guy coming down my hut shaft with tabouleh and oil.
I actually watched the segment on Megyn Kelly's show and didn't think twice about it. Pretty funny to see the fallout over about a five minute segment.
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Exactly, but for the sake of correctness, I have to point out that megyn was wrong in the vidoe, john stewart was in fact correct. However, I would say with all that said Santa is white. I have never pictured a sand guy coming down my hut shaft with tabouleh and oil.
Turks aren't Arabs. They've done genetic studies on this. And the Santa coming down the chimney has nothing to do witn st Nichols. Much of our tradition about Santa Claus comes from holland and the unites states.
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He was Greek and the mythos is largely Northern European and European american in origin. One thing for certain, he wasn't black. Learn the facts, Vince.
He didn't say he was black did he? straw man lined up and knocked down .
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Yeah, how many kids would believe in Santa if he were black. Sneak into your house while you were sleeping and actually leaving shit behind? No way.
Pretty much the same damn reason the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy are white too.
Just close the thread after this post
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He didn't say he was black did he? straw man lined up and knocked down .
He's implying that because Nicholas wasn't fair skinned and of northern European extraction and olive skinned that somehow means having a black Santa makes sense or grants it validity. All tradition and history would suggestion otherwise.
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One more time
They reminded us that Santa Claus is based on St. Nicholas, a Greek who lived in what is now Turkey and would probably have had olive-colored skin, no freckles, and thus not be a white man at all.
It’s true that linguistic corruption eventually transformed “Saint Nikolaos” into “Santa Claus.” It’s also true that the real-life St. Nick was known for his gift-giving ways. But that’s where most of the similarities seem to end. Otherwise, the St. Nicholas legend veers off into other weird pathways such as how he liked to help sailors and how he saved three poor daughters from becoming hookers and the time where he resurrected three boys who’d been chopped to death by a butcher.
Other major elements of the Santa Claus legend seem to have been supplied by Northern European mythology that got subsumed into Christianity as it conquered the continent. Northern Germans and Scandinavians celebrated a holiday called Yule around the winter solstice. During Yule season, the white-bearded pagan god Odin would traverse the skies by night on his eight-legged horse. Children would place boots near the chimney filled with straw for Odin’s horse to eat. In the morning they’d awake to find the straw replaced with gifts and candy. It is thought that Odin’s eight-legged horse would later morph into eight tiny reindeer and the boots would become Christmas stockings.
The British, Dutch, and others would add several layers to the Santa myth, but what’s important is that beyond St. Nicholas’s Greek origins, everything else about the legend appears to have germinated and developed in Northern Europe. (Further modifications were made to the Santa Claus myth in America, but Thomas Nast and Clement Clarke Moore also had skin as pink as bubble gum.) Santa Claus is a
primarily Northern European cultural icon and therefore about as white as it gets.
His generosity made the legendary Nicholas a popular saint in medieval Europe, though a brief encounter with Google turned up no date for his actual sainthood. Hollanders, in particular, took a liking to St. Nicholas. In fact it may be safe to claim that the Santa Claus we know today had his roots in Holland.
He made his first known appearance in America in December, 1773 when a New York newspaper reported that Dutch families had gathered to honor his death, traditionally on December 6.
Sinter Klaas, as the Dutch knew him, was anglicized to Santa Claus and after enduring a series of makeovers, ended up with the iconic visage we recognize today.
That visage was canonized by a poem written in 1822 by Episcopal minister Clement Clarke Moore. Though intended for his three daughters, A Visit from St. Nicholas was reluctantly published. The brilliant professor of Oriental and Greek Literature is known as the author of T'was the Night Before Christmas.
In 1841 a retailer had the bright idea of creating a life-size Santa Claus to attract children to his shop with parents and their pocketbooks in tow. When thousands of kids showed up, the idea was copied by other stores with real-life Santas becoming the mainstay. By the end of the 19th century the Salvation Army got into the fray by dressing their bell ringers is Santa Claus costumes. By then Sinter Klaas had become truly Americanized and commercialized.
In 1881 a political cartoonist named Thomas Nast added a few pounds to Santa Claus when he literally drew on Moore's poem to create the the modern image of Santa Claus.
In 1939 a copywriter for Montgomery Ward department store, Robert L. May, added a reindeer named Rudolph. Ten years later May's friend, Johnny Marks, put a shortened version of his poem to music. That was recorded by Gene Autry and sold over two million copies.
Very little other than the basic story of gift giving has anything to do with Nicholas.
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He's implying that because Nicholas wasn't fair skinned and of northern European extraction and olive skinned that somehow means having a black Santa makes sense or grants it validity. All tradition and history would suggestion otherwise.
it makes sense. Everyone makes sense, the dude was brown. Santa claus is based off of him with alot of variations. my point the whole thread.
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LMFAO - a black santa is likely steal the gifts - sell them for .05 o worth and post on FB
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it makes sense. Everyone makes sense, the dude was brown. Santa claus is based off of him with alot of variations. my point the whole thread.
How about a compromise. Blacks can dress up as the actual St. Nicholas but the red suit wearing fat bearded white guy is off limits.
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How about a compromise. Blacks can dress up as the actual St. Nicholas but the red suit wearing fat bearded white guy is off limits.
alright, I will name my schooner la amistad to help the black cause.
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If Jesus was depicted as a middle eastern, how many Americans would be Christian?
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alright, I will name my schooner la amistad to help the black cause.
Sounds like a deal.
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True, ...but at least Liberal lies have a modicum of intelligence to them verses Conservative lies which are just batshit crazy and based on superstition & fear. Decisions made based on fear are always stupid. Fear addles the brain.
Libtards lied every day and they are sill lying about crapcare.
Only Conservatives were right about that train wreck.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/12/16/toure_theres_already_a_benevolent_black_man_who_gives_gifts_to_kids.html
LMFAO!!!!
And people get on me for making fun of delusional and asswipe blacks who worship ghettobama?
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Santa's white...he's white..they guy has always been white. He's a marketing ploy..he's white, get over it.
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Santa's white...he's white..they guy has always been white. He's a marketing ploy..he's white, get over it.
If I understand you correctly...
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........................ .he's white, with a beard as I recall..but definitly white, with elves..who are white, if they were black that would be...rascist.
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.........................he's white, with a beard as I recall..but definitly white, with elves..who are white, if they were black that would be...rascist.
so you're saying......
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and fat...fat appears to also be a thing. So lets review...he's white, fat, hangs out with elves, lives in the north pole..defies temporal laws, has flying reindeer...current version invented as a marketing gimmick................. ......oh AND HE"S NOT REAL!!!!
Please libs..u've destroyed christmas, thanksgiving, nfl football, the military, cars, and western history. Can we have something please?
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Why don't we make santa a smelly dirty fat ugly 50'ish white hippy w bad hair communist w AIDS ?
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Why don't we make santa a smelly dirty fat ugly 50'ish white hippy w bad hair communist w AIDS ?
you want a job application :D
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Why don't we make santa a smelly dirty fat ugly 50'ish white hippy w bad hair communist w AIDS ?
Pedofiles are shortly becoming a protected class..its not their fault either. Santa will become a diddler in liberal utopia.