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Title: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Dos Equis on December 18, 2013, 03:34:31 PM
Geeze. 

Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Daniel Doherty | Dec 18, 2013

She prefaced that statement with “I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but…”

She said it anyway (via The Right Scoop):

“Well, you’ve touched on it to a degree. He made so many promises. We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah. And the whole ObamaCare, or whatever you want to call it, the Affordable Health Act, it just hasn’t worked for him, and he’s stumbled around on it, and people feel very disappointed because they expected more.”

Maybe the collective Left can be forgiven for placing all their trust in Candidate Obama. Indeed, when he was running for president in ’07 and ’08, he did make all sorts of campaign promises that the vast majority of progressives believed. They trusted him. When he later didn’t deliver on many of them, however, including the ‘if you like your health care plan, you can it’ pledge -- although, in fairness, that came later -- the Party of Change became the Party of Disillusionment. Don’t believe me? Just ask Millennials.

To be fair to Walters, I don’t think most True Leftists felt -- or feel -- Barack Obama was actually the Messiah, as evidenced by their hostility towards Christianity in general and their antics at the 2012 DNC in particular. But they all sincerely believed one man could indeed change the culture of venality in Washington, and bring “real” change to the country. He can check the box on a number of progressive causes, to be sure, but his presidency has been embroiled in controversy and scandal and, at times, marred by disappointment. Candidate Obama is not President Obama. And the Left is now finally starting to notice.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2013/12/18/barbara-walters-i-really-thought-obama-was-the-messiah-or-something-n1765155
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: headhuntersix on December 18, 2013, 04:00:17 PM
Its so bad...I saw this earlier. The fawning is soooo bad. These people must really have hated blacks to have this much guilt.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 18, 2013, 04:03:03 PM
Geeze. 

Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Daniel Doherty | Dec 18, 2013

She prefaced that statement with “I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but…”

She said it anyway (via The Right Scoop):

“Well, you’ve touched on it to a degree. He made so many promises. We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah. And the whole ObamaCare, or whatever you want to call it, the Affordable Health Act, it just hasn’t worked for him, and he’s stumbled around on it, and people feel very disappointed because they expected more.”

Maybe the collective Left can be forgiven for placing all their trust in Candidate Obama. Indeed, when he was running for president in ’07 and ’08, he did make all sorts of campaign promises that the vast majority of progressives believed. They trusted him. When he later didn’t deliver on many of them, however, including the ‘if you like your health care plan, you can it’ pledge -- although, in fairness, that came later -- the Party of Change became the Party of Disillusionment. Don’t believe me? Just ask Millennials.

To be fair to Walters, I don’t think most True Leftists felt -- or feel -- Barack Obama was actually the Messiah, as evidenced by their hostility towards Christianity in general and their antics at the 2012 DNC in particular. But they all sincerely believed one man could indeed change the culture of venality in Washington, and bring “real” change to the country. He can check the box on a number of progressive causes, to be sure, but his presidency has been embroiled in controversy and scandal and, at times, marred by disappointment. Candidate Obama is not President Obama. And the Left is now finally starting to notice.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2013/12/18/barbara-walters-i-really-thought-obama-was-the-messiah-or-something-n1765155

LOL - the paranoid religious folks are at it again with their persecution complex.

News Flash - I haven't met anyone who was "hostile" toward "christianity in general" but rather hostile toward self righteous ass holes who want to impose their personal form of christianity on the rest of us. 
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 18, 2013, 04:19:44 PM
These people must really have hated blacks to have this much guilt.

LOL!!
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 18, 2013, 04:21:23 PM
Its so bad...I saw this earlier. The fawning is soooo bad. These people must really have hated blacks to have this much guilt.

you mean by voting for Obama

maybe you have forgotten that the other options were even worse
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: headhuntersix on December 18, 2013, 04:43:37 PM
Hil was a bad choice for Dems?
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2013, 04:59:29 PM
Cult of the kenyan druggie twink failure.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: temple_of_dis on December 18, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
Geeze. 

Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Daniel Doherty | Dec 18, 2013

She prefaced that statement with “I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but…”

She said it anyway (via The Right Scoop):

“Well, you’ve touched on it to a degree. He made so many promises. We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah. And the whole ObamaCare, or whatever you want to call it, the Affordable Health Act, it just hasn’t worked for him, and he’s stumbled around on it, and people feel very disappointed because they expected more.”

Maybe the collective Left can be forgiven for placing all their trust in Candidate Obama. Indeed, when he was running for president in ’07 and ’08, he did make all sorts of campaign promises that the vast majority of progressives believed. They trusted him. When he later didn’t deliver on many of them, however, including the ‘if you like your health care plan, you can it’ pledge -- although, in fairness, that came later -- the Party of Change became the Party of Disillusionment. Don’t believe me? Just ask Millennials.

To be fair to Walters, I don’t think most True Leftists felt -- or feel -- Barack Obama was actually the Messiah, as evidenced by their hostility towards Christianity in general and their antics at the 2012 DNC in particular. But they all sincerely believed one man could indeed change the culture of venality in Washington, and bring “real” change to the country. He can check the box on a number of progressive causes, to be sure, but his presidency has been embroiled in controversy and scandal and, at times, marred by disappointment. Candidate Obama is not President Obama. And the Left is now finally starting to notice.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2013/12/18/barbara-walters-i-really-thought-obama-was-the-messiah-or-something-n1765155

rand paul and a tea party senate and congress would clean the rats nest out right quick
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: 240 is Back on December 18, 2013, 11:28:12 PM
Luckily, Repubs will nominate Chris Christie, whose ideas are completely conservative, nothing like those of Obama.

In fact, there are literally several things I can think of. 















Seriously repubs, nominate a conservative or forever enjoy liberal rule.  RINOS don't win anymore. 
Title: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 19, 2013, 03:14:41 AM
but in all fairness, many of us would have voted for a fucking dung beetle and thought it the messiah after 8 years of Bush and the party backing him.  Republicans and Bush helped Obama get elected, "bigtime" lol.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2013, 04:27:28 AM
I knew obama was nothin but a slug and worthless communist ghetto punk from day 1
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Fury on December 19, 2013, 04:50:35 AM
At least she's honest in that she has/had a cult-like devotion to Obama. If only guys StrawAnus and 240 were man enough to admit the same.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: dario73 on December 19, 2013, 05:16:54 AM
but in all fairness, many of us would have voted for a fucking dung beetle and thought it the messiah after 8 years of Bush and the party backing him.  Republicans and Bush helped Obama get elected, "bigtime" lol.

You must mean the "many of us" who were blind to see through that clown.

I don't care how bad in your opinion those 8 years were, anyone in their right mind should have put their feelings aside and used common sense to determine who really was this hussein obama.

It was an emotional vote, rather than a logical one.


The "bigtime" lol is on all those who voted for him. Unfortunately, that choice has caused the joke to be on all of us, including those who were skeptical, because at this point these last 5 years have been WAY WORSE than anytime during the Bush years.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: HandsomeMOFO on December 19, 2013, 05:34:40 AM
WHAT A STUPID OLD WHORE
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: dario73 on December 19, 2013, 05:36:46 AM
WHAT A STUPID OLD WHORE

Like Krauthammer stated, "it took her five years to realize obama was not the messiah."
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 19, 2013, 06:41:27 AM
Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Daniel Doherty | Dec 18, 2013

She prefaced that statement with “I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but…”

She said it anyway (via The Right Scoop):

“Well, you’ve touched on it to a degree. He made so many promises. We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah. And the whole ObamaCare, or whatever you want to call it, the Affordable Health Act, it just hasn’t worked for him, and he’s stumbled around on it, and people feel very disappointed because they expected more.”

Maybe the collective Left can be forgiven for placing all their trust in Candidate Obama. Indeed, when he was running for president in ’07 and ’08, he did make all sorts of campaign promises that the vast majority of progressives believed. They trusted him. When he later didn’t deliver on many of them, however, including the ‘if you like your health care plan, you can it’ pledge -- although, in fairness, that came later -- the Party of Change became the Party of Disillusionment. Don’t believe me? Just ask Millennials.

To be fair to Walters, I don’t think most True Leftists felt -- or feel -- Barack Obama was actually the Messiah, as evidenced by their hostility towards Christianity in general and their antics at the 2012 DNC in particular. But they all sincerely believed one man could indeed change the culture of venality in Washington, and bring “real” change to the country. He can check the box on a number of progressive causes, to be sure, but his presidency has been embroiled in controversy and scandal and, at times, marred by disappointment. Candidate Obama is not President Obama. And the Left is now finally starting to notice.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2013/12/18/barbara-walters-i-really-thought-obama-was-the-messiah-or-something-n1765155

But, but, but Straw Man denies this:

Most of his voters used to believe that he is god.

no they didn't

this is what a certain segment of insane Repubs believe to be true about Dems

just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: dario73 on December 19, 2013, 06:45:44 AM
no they didn't

this is what a certain segment of insane Repubs believe to be true about Dems

just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other

LOL!

We are used to him being wrong 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: 240 is Back on December 19, 2013, 06:46:24 AM
I think we've all known, since the 1970s or so, that barbara walters sucked.   It became clear to me in the 1980s when I started learning to watch tv.  By the 1990s, I watched 20/20 a few times and found her entirely annoying.  The 200s brought "the view", I think, which was really good at making me change channel, I dont think I've ever watched, not even once.  Just the shrill voice of all of them at a table, ugh, obnoxious for sure.

In 2013, Walters can't admit anything that would make me say "you know, I've lost all respect for that person".
Title: or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2013, 06:51:54 AM
Just remember - you were equally caught up in the Cult of Obama remember?
Title: Re: or Something
Post by: dario73 on December 19, 2013, 06:56:54 AM
Just remember - you were equally caught up in the Cult of Obama remember?

240 has selective memory.

He forgot he wanted to be part of history in selecting the first black president.

In 2016 he will want to be part of history in voting for a woman to be president of the USA.

So he will be 2 for 2 in selecting the worst presidents in the history of the USA.

That is the history that libtards are making.
Title: Re: or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2013, 07:00:55 AM
240 has selective memory.

He forgot he wanted to be part of history in selecting the first black president.

In 2016 he will want to be part of history in voting for a woman to be president of the USA.

So he will be 2 for 2 in selecting the worst presidents in the history of the USA.

That is the history that libtards are making.


Remember the creepy Obama kids in the schools etc?
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: dario73 on December 19, 2013, 07:02:21 AM
Why are libtards so slow to realize how inept barack is?

I mean, if libtards are as intelligent as 24kt claims, how come it took SOME of them (a lot of them are still supporting the clowninchief)  5 years to see what conservatives already knew in 2008?
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 19, 2013, 07:05:59 AM
Why are libtards so slow to realize how inept barack is?

I mean, if libtards are as intelligent as 24kt claims, how come it took SOME of them (a lot of them are still supporting the clowninchief)  5 years to see what conservatives already knew in 2008?

What?  Dario, why would you use the word "intelligent" and her name in the same sentence?  Everyone knows that 24KT/JaguarEnterprises is mentally retarded.  Shame on you!
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: 24KT on December 19, 2013, 07:33:27 AM
LOL - the paranoid religious folks are at it again with their persecution complex.

News Flash - I haven't met anyone who was "hostile" toward "christianity in general" but rather hostile toward self righteous ass holes who want to impose their personal form of christianity on the rest of us. 

BINGO!!!
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: 24KT on December 19, 2013, 07:36:03 AM
but in all fairness, many of us would have voted for a fucking dung beetle and thought it the messiah after 8 years of Bush and the party backing him.  Republicans and Bush helped Obama get elected, "bigtime" lol.

QFT!
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 19, 2013, 07:40:41 AM
To be fair to Walters, I don’t think most True Leftists felt -- or feel -- Barack Obama was actually the Messiah, as evidenced by their hostility towards Christianity in general and their antics at the 2012 DNC in particular.

BINGO!!!

24KT/JaguarEnterprises hates Christians and she has threatened to kill us all or force us underground.

I FVCKING HATE DELUSIONAL EVANGELICALS  >:(

You are fvcking certifiable in your delusion & denial.
It's the goddamn evangelicals who make it a political issue. Get real!!!

I will welcome the day that religion is forced underground!

Any evangelical I off, is gonna be one who trys imposing themself on me. There's a big difference.

It's like someone on here once said "I'll shoot the fvckers if I have to."
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: 24KT on December 19, 2013, 08:03:03 AM
Why are libtards so slow to realize how inept barack is?

I mean, if libtards are as intelligent as 24kt claims, how come it took SOME of them (a lot of them are still supporting the clowninchief)  5 years to see what conservatives already knew in 2008?

Can we please stop with the divisive name calling?

Here's what I think. I don't think it has taken Liberals 5 years to figure out Candidate Obama, and President Obama were two different men. I think most Liberals realized it soon after he took office, but the divisive atmosphere, and all out effort on the part of some to obstruct him at every turn, kept many Liberals rallying behind him, and not voicing their displeasure and disappointment previously.

Despite what they or anyone else wants to believe, Liberals or Democrats cannot take full credit, or full blame for the election results in 2008 or 2012. McCain and his choice of a running mate went a very long way towards the election results of 2008. Republicans came out in droves to endorse Obama once they got a whiff of Palin.

The Republicans again handed Obama the victory when they screwed Ron Paul. They pissed off their own base by disenfranchising Paul, and rallied the Democratic base by handing the party to a privileged stiff that epitomized everything that was wrong with Wall Street.

Obama SHOULD have lost the 2012 election, but thanks to the Republicans, it wasn't quite the LANDSLIDE it should been.

The Republicans need to focus on good policies rather than an obstructionist agenda. They make far more progress that way. They got the blame for the govt shutdown, ...and rightly so, ...but look how far they've come since the Gov't shutdown... without all the attempts to thwart & hinder progress?

If the Republicans will simply focus on getting their own house in order, ...they will allow the nation to not only see, but admit to, and discuss all the flaws, warts, and pustules in Obama's policies.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: 24KT on December 19, 2013, 08:05:03 AM
24KT/JaguarEnterprises hates Christians and she has threatened to kill us all or force us underground.


You're more hystrionic than a 13 year old girl on her period!  Take a Midol!  ::)
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 19, 2013, 08:38:52 AM
You're more hystrionic than a 13 year old girl on her period!  Take a Midol!  ::)

What's it like posting from prison, 24KT/JaguarEnterprises?    ;D
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 19, 2013, 02:43:09 PM
But, but, but Straw Man denies this:


even the person being quoted doesn't believe it

maybe you missed that part

Geeze. 

Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Daniel Doherty | Dec 18, 2013

She prefaced that statement with “I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but…”

She said it anyway (via The Right Scoop):

“Well, you’ve touched on it to a degree. He made so many promises. We thought that he was going to be – I shouldn’t say this at Christmastime, but – the next messiah. And the whole ObamaCare, or whatever you want to call it, the Affordable Health Act, it just hasn’t worked for him, and he’s stumbled around on it, and people feel very disappointed because they expected more.”

Maybe the collective Left can be forgiven for placing all their trust in Candidate Obama. Indeed, when he was running for president in ’07 and ’08, he did make all sorts of campaign promises that the vast majority of progressives believed. They trusted him. When he later didn’t deliver on many of them, however, including the ‘if you like your health care plan, you can it’ pledge -- although, in fairness, that came later -- the Party of Change became the Party of Disillusionment. Don’t believe me? Just ask Millennials.

To be fair to Walters, I don’t think most True Leftists felt -- or feel -- Barack Obama was actually the Messiah, as evidenced by their hostility towards Christianity in general and their antics at the 2012 DNC in particular. But they all sincerely believed one man could indeed change the culture of venality in Washington, and bring “real” change to the country. He can check the box on a number of progressive causes, to be sure, but his presidency has been embroiled in controversy and scandal and, at times, marred by disappointment. Candidate Obama is not President Obama. And the Left is now finally starting to notice.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2013/12/18/barbara-walters-i-really-thought-obama-was-the-messiah-or-something-n1765155
Title: ," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2013, 02:48:48 PM
even the person being quoted doesn't believe it

maybe you missed that part


LOL - walters is wrong - you fools all drank the kool aide
Title: Re: ," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 19, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
LOL - walters is wrong - you fools all drank the kool aide

the messiah crap is just more of the usual fairy tales you idiots on the right tell each other

Title: Re: ," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 19, 2013, 02:51:51 PM
the messiah crap is just more of the usual fairy tales you idiots on the right tell each other



LOL - really?  You need us to post the clips again? 
Title: Re: ," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 19, 2013, 03:00:33 PM
LOL - really?  You need us to post the clips again? 

do whatever you want dumbass

posting a few people making some stupid comments and then pretending it's representative of the almost 66 million people who voted for him is an example of the kind of stupid shit that you do so well

the fact that you actually believe it is a whole other issue
Title: Re:"the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2013, 06:16:22 AM
Title: was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2013, 06:19:29 AM
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2013, 06:22:21 AM
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: HandsomeMOFO on December 20, 2013, 06:23:19 AM
People like Barbara Walters will be very popular among media head drones.  Personally I can see right through here fake media head BS.   Dumb old whore.  
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 20, 2013, 03:05:58 PM
even the person being quoted doesn't believe it

maybe you missed that part


The person being quoted doesn't believe it only because he/she believes it is "as evidenced by their hostility towards Christianity in general."  That is the only reason.

Straw Man, do you agree with the person being quoted?

And the fact is that I said weeks ago that many Obama voters used to think of him as a god, to which your replied:

no they didn't

this is what a certain segment of insane Repubs believe to be true about Dems

just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other

Now, non other than Barbara Walters is confirming what I said weeks ago:

"We thought that he was going to be the next messiah."

Straw Man, is Barbara Walters in this "certain segment of insane Repubs"?  Is Barbara Walters saying "just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other"?
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 20, 2013, 04:22:11 PM
The person being quoted doesn't believe it only because he/she believes it is "as evidenced by their hostility towards Christianity in general."  That is the only reason.

Straw Man, do you agree with the person being quoted?

And the fact is that I said weeks ago that many Obama voters used to think of him as a god, to which your replied:

Now, non other than Barbara Walters is confirming what I said weeks ago:

"We thought that he was going to be the next messiah."

Straw Man, is Barbara Walters in this "certain segment of insane Repubs"?  Is Barbara Walters saying "just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other"?

when you claim as fact that "many Obama voters used to think of him as a god" why don't you actually support that claim with proof or call it what it actually is ....which is your opinion.

I've made my statements pretty clear and I'll repeat them here.  I've never heard anyone that I know refer to Obama as some kind of messiah.   Maybe a few people believe that but in my opinion the vast majority don't (btw -aren't we all supposed to be atheist so why would we be looking for a messiah in the first place).  Like most sane people we believe he is a flawed human being just like everyone else
If you believe it then fine.  I'm sure you believe a lot of shit that I don't believe

Regarding the part about "as evidenced by their hostility towards Christians in general" I've also made my personal opinion very clear.  In fact so clear that I don't understand why you would still not understand it.  I think that statement is total horseshit but again I'm sure you believe it to be true.

here's what I said before and I'll just repost it and maybe you can understand it the second time around

LOL - the paranoid religious folks are at it again with their persecution complex.

News Flash - I haven't met anyone who was "hostile" toward "christianity in general" but rather hostile toward self righteous ass holes who want to impose their personal form of christianity on the rest of us. 

I don't give a shit what you or anyone else chooses to believe in their personal lives.

Believe whatever you want but just don't try to impose it on me or tell me I must live my life by your personal interpretation of your chosen religious beliefs

Why is that simple statement so hard for you to understand?
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 20, 2013, 04:43:46 PM
when you claim as fact that "many Obama voters used to think of him as a god" why don't you actually support that claim with proof or call it what it actually is ....which is your opinion.

I've made my statements pretty clear and I'll repeat them here.  I've never heard anyone that I know refer to Obama as some kind of messiah.   Maybe a few people believe that but in my opinion the vast majority don't (btw -aren't we all supposed to be atheist so why would we be looking for a messiah in the first place).  Like most sane people we believe he is a flawed human being just like everyone else
If you believe it then fine.  I'm sure you believe a lot of shit that I don't believe

Regarding the part about "as evidenced by their hostility towards Christians in general" I've also made my personal opinion very clear.  In fact so clear that I don't understand why you would still not understand it.  I think that statement is total horseshit but again I'm sure you believe it to be true.

here's what I said before and I'll just repost it and maybe you can understand it the second time around

I don't give a shit what you or anyone else chooses to believe in their personal lives.

Believe whatever you want but just don't try to impose it on me or tell me I must live my life by your personal interpretation of your chosen religious beliefs

Why is that simple statement so hard for you to understand?

You have melted all over the place, changed the subject and dodged my question.

Straw Man, is Barbara Walters in this "certain segment of insane Repubs"?  Is Barbara Walters saying "just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other"?
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 20, 2013, 05:27:47 PM
You have melted all over the place, changed the subject and dodged my question.

Straw Man, is Barbara Walters in this "certain segment of insane Repubs"?  Is Barbara Walters saying "just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other"?

how should I know if she is part of that segment of insane Republicans?

She's making a statement that insane republicans like to tell each other so she may well be

you seem to be having difficulty understanding basic concepts
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2013, 06:20:49 PM
how should I know if she is part of that segment of insane Republicans?

She's making a statement that insane republicans like to tell each other so she may well be

you seem to be having difficulty understanding basic concepts

denial and delusion
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 23, 2013, 08:55:48 AM
how should I know if she is part of that segment of insane Republicans?

She's making a statement that insane republicans like to tell each other so she may well be

you seem to be having difficulty understanding basic concepts

LOL...So Straw Man, Barbara Walters "might be" an insane Republican who supported Obama, voted for him and really thought Obama was the next Messiah?
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Necrosis on December 23, 2013, 09:00:20 AM
Can we please stop with the divisive name calling?

Here's what I think. I don't think it has taken Liberals 5 years to figure out Candidate Obama, and President Obama were two different men. I think most Liberals realized it soon after he took office, but the divisive atmosphere, and all out effort on the part of some to obstruct him at every turn, kept many Liberals rallying behind him, and not voicing their displeasure and disappointment previously.

Despite what they or anyone else wants to believe, Liberals or Democrats cannot take full credit, or full blame for the election results in 2008 or 2012. McCain and his choice of a running mate went a very long way towards the election results of 2008. Republicans came out in droves to endorse Obama once they got a whiff of Palin.

The Republicans again handed Obama the victory when they screwed Ron Paul. They pissed off their own base by disenfranchising Paul, and rallied the Democratic base by handing the party to a privileged stiff that epitomized everything that was wrong with Wall Street.

Obama SHOULD have lost the 2012 election, but thanks to the Republicans, it wasn't quite the LANDSLIDE it should been.

The Republicans need to focus on good policies rather than an obstructionist agenda. They make far more progress that way. They got the blame for the govt shutdown, ...and rightly so, ...but look how far they've come since the Gov't shutdown... without all the attempts to thwart & hinder progress?

If the Republicans will simply focus on getting their own house in order, ...they will allow the nation to not only see, but admit to, and discuss all the flaws, warts, and pustules in Obama's policies.

The word should is your own opinion so don't pass it off as fact. I didn't have romney winning for a second, you are delusional. He was always way behind and anyone they put up would have been, it was a raping, predicted to be from the start, Romney was teh best choice, it was obvious, and their best failed.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah,"
Post by: bears on December 23, 2013, 09:11:44 AM
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Necrosis on December 23, 2013, 09:20:50 AM
You have melted all over the place
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lol
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: dario73 on December 23, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
LOL...So Straw Man, Barbara Walters "might be" an insane Republican who supported Obama, voted for him and really thought Obama was the next Messiah?

LOL.

Like all who drank the Kool Aid, he will not answer you directly.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 23, 2013, 09:53:45 AM
It is absolutely undeniable that Obama had, and still has, a unique cult-of-personality about him that transcends politics. He is as much a celebrity as he is a politician. Before he had even been elected, or done anything at all actually, he would draw enormous crowds in europe and around the world, he was awarded a Nobel peace prize for absolutely nothing, and he was and is certainly seen as a 'saviour' figure to literally millions of blacks and even some yuppie white liberal types all over the country. His face and campaign slogans and imagery have become iconic, transcending simple politics. And his fellow democrats have absolutely followed him unquestionably on virtually everything to a man, which is unusual for a two term president, and among them, the mainstream media, celebrities, and pop culture, he remains free of criticism.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 23, 2013, 04:30:35 PM
LOL.

Like all who drank the Kool Aid, he will not answer you directly.

I've answered it multiple times

60 million people voted for Obama and if you show me a few tapes of people who thought he was a messiah that doesn't mean that the majority or anywhere near the majority who voted for him believe that.   I live in the bay area and voted for him twice and I've never heard anyone say that

Barbara Walters is old, rich, white and a lifelong friend of Roger Ailes so she may well be an insane Democrat who thinks Obama is the messiah

I know you guys love to project  your own beliefs on to others and then pretend it's true

Why don't you find some Obama supporters who post on this board who have made the messiah claim

Chances are the only quotes you will find are right wing morons who claim this is something the the left believes or as Loco believes ......that "Most of his voters used to believe that he is god"

If you want to know a politician who his own party believes was a messiah take a look at Ronald Reagan or even W



Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Jack T. Cross on December 23, 2013, 04:43:34 PM
I'm personally acquainted with people who were going absolutely nuts with happiness when the administration changed, and I can't blame them for wanting a better way. Who can blame someone for that?

Unfortunately for us all, Obama has turned out to be nothing more than Assault on America: Part II.

So that's that. Time for everyone to learn a lesson and move on.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: 24KT on December 25, 2013, 11:15:23 PM
What's it like posting from prison,    ;D

You are such an idiot. Prisoners in Canada do not have access to Internet.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 26, 2013, 08:39:40 AM
You are such an idiot. Prisoners in Canada do not have access to Internet.


You know it's true, 24KT/JaguarEnterprises

Michael Forrest Pleads Guilty to Selling Illegal Devices

For several years, doing business as Jaguar Enterprises, Dragonfly Enterprises, and BioElectric, S.A., Michael Forrest manufactured and marketed quack devices for treating cancer, AIDS, hepatitis, herpes, chronic fatigue syndrome, Candida yeast infections, lyme disease, parasites, gastritis, and rheumatoid arthritis. In 2001, Forrest signed an FTC consent agreement that he would not make unsubstantiated claims for any device or herbal products. However, he continued to make illegal claims on his Web sites. He even bragged that (a) "With the intuitive sense that the feds may be knocking on my door soon as a result of making claims about unapproved medical devices I moved from the USA to Costa Rica in 1999," (b) he was then in Paraguay and "out of the reach of the FTC," and (c) he had "hosted the his site "in a country that the feds could not shut it down." After an FDA investigation uncovered what Forrest was doing, he was charged with wire fraud, mail fraud, conspiring to mislead the FDA, and marketing an unapproved medical device. He pled guilty to the device charge in 2005 and in 2006 was sentenced to two years in prison.

Is this why SamsonEnterprises is so angry at America? I'm sure the Feds aren't too receptive towards anyone marketing their products under the "JaguarEnterprises" name.

What is it that makes pyramid schemes tick and why are they so successful? Lets keep it political.  ;D

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/06/jaguarconsent.pdf
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Archer77 on December 26, 2013, 08:48:28 AM
I'm personally acquainted with people who were going absolutely nuts with happiness when the administration changed, and I can't blame them for wanting a better way. Who can blame someone for that?

Unfortunately for us all, Obama has turned out to be nothing more than Assault on America: Part II.

So that's that. Time for everyone to learn a lesson and move on.

Truth, brother.  I'll quote The Who, "Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss."
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Archer77 on December 26, 2013, 08:54:37 AM
You know it's true, 24KT/JaguarEnterprises

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/06/jaguarconsent.pdf

How is she allowed to spam the board with her gold scheme?  Shouldn't she have to change the spam under her screen name?  Goodrums posts were deleted for simply mentioning another site.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: tu_holmes on December 26, 2013, 09:01:47 AM
I'm personally acquainted with people who were going absolutely nuts with happiness when the administration changed, and I can't blame them for wanting a better way. Who can blame someone for that?

Unfortunately for us all, Obama has turned out to be nothing more than Assault on America: Part II.

So that's that. Time for everyone to learn a lesson and move on.

Agree in many ways. People should be realizing that voting for the same 2 groups is going to equate to the same stuff.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 26, 2013, 11:48:18 AM
60 million people voted for Obama and if you show me a few tapes of people who thought he was a messiah that doesn't mean that the majority or anywhere near the majority who voted for him believe that.   I live in the bay area and voted for him twice and I've never heard anyone say that

I said:

Most of his voters used to believe that he is god.

To which you replied:

no they didn't

this is what a certain segment of insane Repubs believe to be true about Dems

just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other

Barbara Walters said "We really thought Obama was the next Messiah"

So this is much more than "just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other"
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 26, 2013, 12:28:13 PM
I said:

To which you replied:

Barbara Walters said "We really thought Obama was the next Messiah"

So this is much more than "just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other"

damn dude - how many times and ways do you want me to answer this question

yes, this is just another one of thos stupid lies that "some Repubs tell each other"

the fact that Walters said it doesn't change that statement

why are you so hung up on that statement by her

why do you personally think it's so significant?
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: dario73 on December 26, 2013, 12:30:34 PM
damn dude - how many times and ways do you want me to answer this question


That is your problem.

You don't answer.

Your "ways" of answering the question are actually ALL deflections.

Focus. Just focus, obama drone.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 26, 2013, 12:34:43 PM
That is your problem.

You don't answer.

Your "ways" of answering the question are actually ALL deflections.

Focus. Just focus, obama drone.

I've answered it multiple times and also pointed out multiple times that almost 60 million people voted for Obama in the last election

I guess GB.com right wing idiots subscribe to the an even more wacked out version of the Cheney Doctrine which must mean that if .000000001% of a given population says something then we must presume it to be true of everyone in that group.



Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “ Messiah," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 26, 2013, 12:40:24 PM
I've answered it multiple times and also pointed out multiple times that almost 60 million people voted for Obama in the last election

I guess GB.com right wing idiots subscribe to the an even more wacked out version of the Cheney Doctrine which must mean that if .000000001% of a given population says something then we must presume it to be true of everyone in that group.






Please - the entire cult of Obama was created w messianic imagery and a fawning sycophantic media to make him like a god. 

The reality was that he was just another corrupt worthless down-lo street druggie at the right time and place. 
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “ Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 26, 2013, 12:51:55 PM

Please - the entire cult of Obama was created w messianic imagery and a fawning sycophantic media to make him like a god. 

The reality was that he was just another corrupt worthless down-lo street druggie at the right time and place. 

just more of the same fairy tale you right wing idiots like to tell each other
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 26, 2013, 12:53:17 PM
damn dude - how many times and ways do you want me to answer this question

yes, this is just another one of thos stupid lies that "some Repubs tell each other"

the fact that Walters said it doesn't change that statement

why are you so hung up on that statement by her

why do you personally think it's so significant?

LOL...you haven't answered, and at this point it's obvious you won't answer.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “ Messiah," or Something
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 26, 2013, 01:02:28 PM
just more of the same fairy tale you right wing idiots like to tell each other


Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “ Messiah," or Something
Post by: Straw Man on December 26, 2013, 01:20:13 PM


of course you would use a 38 second clip with one comment out of context and then hang your entire belief structure on it

I wouldn't expect anything more from you

here is what Evan had to say to morons such as yourself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Thomas
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What I said was: "In a way, Obama's standing above the country, above -- above the world, a sort of god." I was not being literal. During a discussion about presidential rhetoric, I was comparing Ronald Reagan's patriotic appeals with Obama's attempt to transcend parochialism.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “ Messiah," or Something
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2013, 01:42:54 PM


Good grief.  Talk about drinking the Kool-Aide.  This is part of the reason his disciples still support him.  They deified him. 
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “ Messiah," or Something
Post by: loco on December 30, 2013, 12:16:33 PM
Good grief.  Talk about drinking the Kool-Aide.  This is part of the reason his disciples still support him.  They deified him.  

According to Straw Man, it's all a conspiracy.  Any Obama voter who says he/she believed/believes Obama was/is a god or the next Messiah is really a closet Republican.  


Most of his voters used to believe that he is god.

no they didn't

this is what a certain segment of insane Repubs believe to be true about Dems

just another one of those stupid things that some Repubs tell each other
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: MCWAY on December 30, 2013, 12:43:37 PM
you mean by voting for Obama

maybe you have forgotten that the other options were even worse

Worse than what?

- 17 trillion in debt
- A foreign policy that's an absolute joke
- More people on food stamps than ever in American history
- A healthcare law that's an absolute debacle

And the worse is yet to come.
Title: Re: Barbara Walters: “We” Really Thought Obama was "the next Messiah," or Something
Post by: Jack T. Cross on December 30, 2013, 01:11:42 PM
Is it possible that modern media functions primarily as a shit-stirring machine, or is that out of the question? Because according to this thread, it's very effective at doing just that.

Meanwhile, like thieves in the night, the politicians are up to all manner of questionable behavior.

Bros, before all these ridiculous distractions, we're Americans, so we need to act as a team (no homo).

Let's talk about the things we'd agree upon for a true reformation party!