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December 20, 2013
Gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of 4.1 percent in the third quarter, the fastest pace in almost two years, and exceeding the 3.6 percent pace reported earlier this month. Business spending was also stronger than previously estimated.
The deficit has been cut in half.
Unemployment is down to 7.0%
The stock market is at all-time highs.
Your mother :)
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You must be an andre gimmick.
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December 20, 2013
Gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of 4.1 percent in the third quarter, the fastest pace in almost two years, and exceeding the 3.6 percent pace reported earlier this month. Business spending was also stronger than previously estimated.
The deficit has been cut in half.
Unemployment is down to 7.0%
The stock market is at all-time highs.
Your mother :)
(http://oi52.tinypic.com/107rg9j.jpg)
unemployment is 26%
inflation 24.6%
and GDP shrunk
quit getting your "facts" from the jon stewart show
oh and stock market are assets, which when in massive inflation float up
look at price of gold ;D
youtube peter schiff he can explain it all to you
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All wrong.
You listen to Schiff, that is your problem. ;)
I hope you were not one of his clients. If so, you're probably living in a cardboard box under a bridge.
You need an education.
Also youtube John Allison and Milton Friedman.
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December 20, 2013
Gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of 4.1 percent in the third quarter, the fastest pace in almost two years, and exceeding the 3.6 percent pace reported earlier this month. Business spending was also stronger than previously estimated.
The deficit has been cut in half.
Unemployment is down to 7.0%
The stock market is at all-time highs.
Your mother :)
(http://oi52.tinypic.com/107rg9j.jpg)
-U.E. rate is at 7% because people are giving up looking for work, falling off the U.E. insurance rolls and thus the Labor Participation Rate continues to decline further to historical lows.
-Wages have declined ~5% over the last half decade
-The 4.1% upward revision was due to a "revision" in Personal Consumption....which would be great if the annualized increased of 2% (15 billion) wasn't due to a combo of spending increases in health care and gasoline. 87% of the 15 billion revision was due to increases in gasoline and health care....that's not good.
-Stock markets increases are due to the Federal Reserve continued and now soon to be tapered (ever so slightly) Q.E. programs that pumped a fresh 85 billion into the markets every month. They are also keeping interest rates at historical lows.
Look behind the bullshit headlines, for 85% of the population the economy and employment is largely poor.
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the deficit has been cut in half?
What kind of bullshit is this?
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This should educate the Oprah listener.
Obama 11T so far!!
Bush 5T
wow
deficit and inflation outa control with Obama/Reid. Just goto mcdonalds and see how much big mac meal is now :)
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HEHEHEH!
The deficit cut in half?
First of all it is 37% drop in the ANNUAL deficit. We still added about $700 million to the NATIONAL DEBT.
Second, By the time the clowninchief leaves office, the NATIONAL DEBT will be around $20 trillion.
Your "messiah" has added about $7 trillion so far to the debt. MORE THAN ANY PRESIDENT EVER. Are you seriously suggesting that we should thank him for decreasing the annual deficit by 37% after he more than DOUBLED the national debt? Is the OP that stupid?
So much for his promise that he would cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term.
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unemployment is 26%
inflation 24.6%
and GDP shrunk
quit getting your "facts" from the jon stewart show
oh and stock market are assets, which when in massive inflation float up
look at price of gold ;D
youtube peter schiff he can explain it all to you
Your numbers are bullshit. There is no "massive inflation", nor is unemployment anywhere near what you say.
And the price of gold is now the lowest it's been since Summer, 2010.
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Your numbers are bullshit. There is no "massive inflation", nor is unemployment anywhere near what you say.
And the price of gold is now the lowest it's been since Summer, 2010.
look at his post, scroll down through the thread and tell me it doesn't catch you eye, like "oh, here is the retard".
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No matter how you cut it the economy is doing wayyy better than when the GOP had the presidency.
GOP is poison for the middle-class and therefore the economy.
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http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/43-taxes-and-economy/1991-obama-tripled-the-deficit-now-brags-he-cut-it-in-half
So what did Obama do with that “unpatriotic” level of deficit spending?
He tripled it. From a deficit of $498 billion in 2008, it shot up to $1.539 trillion in 2009.
Before Obama, America had never witnessed a deficit of $1 trillion or more. Since Obama, America suffered four consecutive years in excess of that amount. His 2010 deficit reached $1.387 trillion, his 2011 number hit $1.350 trillion and the 2012 shortfall was $1.120 trillion. The just-completed fiscal 2013 deficit came in at $759 billion.
Thus, the “halved” 2013 deficit over which Obama brags is larger than the largest deficit of any president who preceded him. Even at the height of World War II in 1943, the deficit only reached $737 billion in current dollars.
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Overall, according to the U.S. Treasury Department’s annual fiscal summary released this month, total federal debt held by the public has increased 90% during the Obama presidency. According to the report, total public debt as of January 20, 2009 amounted to $6.307 trillion, but as of September 30, 2013, the end of the 2013 fiscal year, it amounted to $11.976 trillion. That’s a lot worse than the accumulation of debt that Obama labeled “unpatriotic” under Bush.
So what do we have to show for it? The single worst economic recovery in recorded U.S. history. The last recession officially ended all the way back in June 2009, but past that point we witnessed a record number of months over 8% unemployment, a decline in median income even after the “recovery” began, astonishingly low gross domestic product (GDP) growth, a doubling of the number of food stamp recipients and dangerous declines in adult workforce participation.
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Yes those huge expensive policies that Obama inacted in between 2008-2009 ::)
Can you name them or are you just a talking parrot?
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Yes those huge expensive policies that Obama inacted in between 2008-2009 ::)
Can you name them or are you just a talking parrot?talking snake
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The national debt is set to double by the time President Barack Obama leaves office, if it continues to increase at the current rate.
In January 2009, when Obama began his first term, the federal debt was $10.6 trillion. As of this week it has increased 57 percent to $16.7 trillion, The Washington Times reported.
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/national-debt-obama/2013/10/10/id/530429#ixzz2oJdThdBP
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According to FactCheck.org, the amount that the federal government owes the public is set to double as well. The government currently owes the Treasury $11.94 trillion, which is an 89.3 percent increase from the day Obama took office.
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http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/43-taxes-and-economy/1991-obama-tripled-the-deficit-now-brags-he-cut-it-in-half
So what did Obama do with that “unpatriotic” level of deficit spending?
He tripled it. From a deficit of $498 billion in 2008, it shot up to $1.539 trillion in 2009.
Before Obama, America had never witnessed a deficit of $1 trillion or more. Since Obama, America suffered four consecutive years in excess of that amount. His 2010 deficit reached $1.387 trillion, his 2011 number hit $1.350 trillion and the 2012 shortfall was $1.120 trillion. The just-completed fiscal 2013 deficit came in at $759 billion.
Thus, the “halved” 2013 deficit over which Obama brags is larger than the largest deficit of any president who preceded him. Even at the height of World War II in 1943, the deficit only reached $737 billion in current dollars.
Don't you get it?
That huge increase in the deficit is due to two unfunded "Wars Against Terrorism" started by Bush.
Both of which Obama has been scrambling to wind down.
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lol
Obama can't blame Bush for Obama spending 20T and running up 11T in debt.
lol
nope
you the the money mr O
and you didnt need to
you did it to make your homies rich
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-U.E. rate is at 7% because people are giving up looking for work, falling off the U.E. insurance rolls and thus the Labor Participation Rate continues to decline further to historical lows.
-Wages have declined ~5% over the last half decade
-The 4.1% upward revision was due to a "revision" in Personal Consumption....which would be great if the annualized increased of 2% (15 billion) wasn't due to a combo of spending increases in health care and gasoline. 87% of the 15 billion revision was due to increases in gasoline and health care....that's not good.
-Stock markets increases are due to the Federal Reserve continued and now soon to be tapered (ever so slightly) Q.E. programs that pumped a fresh 85 billion into the markets every month. They are also keeping interest rates at historical lows.
Look behind the bullshit headlines, for 85% of the population the economy and employment is largely poor.
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Yes those huge expensive policies that Obama inacted in between 2008-2009 ::)
Can you name them or are you just a talking parrot?
Bump for an answer Dario.
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solyandra by itself was 500mil.
money dumped into crony pockets
all jobs gone
0 products sold
now get this
there were 100s if not 1000s of solyanrdas
then things like fedex being force unionized
fedex was kicking ups ass union free
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Don't you get it?
That huge increase in the deficit is due to two unfunded "Wars Against Terrorism" started by Bush.
Both of which Obama has been scrambling to wind down.
I actually saw a breakdown saying that defense spending and the wars didnt cost nearly as much as everyone tried to say, that they were like >10% GDP
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I actually saw a breakdown saying that defense spending and the wars didnt cost nearly as much as everyone tried to say, that they were like >10% GDP
Whats amazing is you can go on demcrat wikipedia and see defense bugdet is 19% of gdp.
Most government school students think defense is like 70% of gdp and all cuts can come outa defense.
Meanwhile defense invents everything including the internet and gui computer interface.....
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Whats amazing is you can go on demcrat wikipedia and see defense bugdet is 19% of gdp.
Most government school students think defense is like 70% of gdp and all cuts can come outa defense.
Meanwhile defense invents everything including the internet and gui computer interface.....
maybe thats the number I was thinking of....
syntax made a good quote about how we dont spend as much on our military as everyone likes to bitch about.
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Interesting clip from two years ago, that touches on percentages for military spending:
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maybe thats the number I was thinking of....
syntax made a good quote about how we dont spend as much on our military as everyone likes to bitch about.
It isn't all that much in relation to our GDP, I think most people (idiots) get it confused with amount of yearly spending, i.e. the overall yearly fiscal outlays.
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http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/43-taxes-and-economy/1991-obama-tripled-the-deficit-now-brags-he-cut-it-in-half
So what did Obama do with that “unpatriotic” level of deficit spending?
He tripled it. From a deficit of $498 billion in 2008, it shot up to $1.539 trillion in 2009.
Before Obama, America had never witnessed a deficit of $1 trillion or more. Since Obama, America suffered four consecutive years in excess of that amount. His 2010 deficit reached $1.387 trillion, his 2011 number hit $1.350 trillion and the 2012 shortfall was $1.120 trillion. The just-completed fiscal 2013 deficit came in at $759 billion.
Thus, the “halved” 2013 deficit over which Obama brags is larger than the largest deficit of any president who preceded him. Even at the height of World War II in 1943, the deficit only reached $737 billion in current dollars.
I'm sorry, but while I don't like Obama, any debt in 2009 was under the budget produced by GWB.
That's just a fact.
Now, if you you want to start at the end of 2009 and move forward to today, then yes... Everything from Jan 1, -> Jan 1, 2017 will be Obama.
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uh no
if you spend the money u created the debt
peter schiff
john allison
tom woods
anyone with a brain
said the idea the economy would implode if we let aig and goldman sachs go under, which many also say they wouldnt have, is total crap
let gm go under as well, rip up all union contracts n pensions, and let ford n whoever buy the assets adn make them successful
same with failed banks
end the fed and clintons madate that homeless get house loans that caused 2008 and end fannie n freddy
simple
obama instead handed out 20T to cronies and ranup 11T debt
bush had already paid for his war u goons
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uh no
if you spend the money u created the debt
peter schiff
john allison
tom woods
anyone with a brain
said the idea the economy would implode if we let aig and goldman sachs go under, which many also say they wouldnt have, is total crap
let gm go under as well, rip up all union contracts n pensions, and let ford n whoever buy the assets adn make them successful
same with failed banks
end the fed and clintons madate that homeless get house loans that caused 2008 and end fannie n freddy
simple
obama instead handed out 20T to cronies and ranup 11T debt
bush had already paid for his war u goons
What did he (Bush) pay for it with?
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December 20, 2013
Gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of 4.1 percent in the third quarter, the fastest pace in almost two years, and exceeding the 3.6 percent pace reported earlier this month. Business spending was also stronger than previously estimated.
The deficit has been cut in half.
Unemployment is down to 7.0%
The stock market is at all-time highs.
Your mother :)
(http://oi52.tinypic.com/107rg9j.jpg)
AWWWWW! I see the democratic machine is teaching you about fun with numbers. that's cute.
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AWWWWW! I see the democratic machine is teaching you about fun with numbers. that's cute.
It's andre. He gets all his info from thinkprogress.com
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maybe thats the number I was thinking of....
syntax made a good quote about how we dont spend as much on our military as everyone likes to bitch about.
It should still be much less though. A recent article in Foreign Affairs estimates that if the Pentagon can get a handle on personnel costs by slowing the growth of military salaries and increasing Tricare fees, it will still need to cut about 10% of personnel to be in line with the spending limit set in the Budget Control Act of 2011 -- and all that did was cap spending at 2007 levels.
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It should still be much less though. A recent article in Foreign Affairs estimates that if the Pentagon can get a handle on personnel costs by slowing the growth of military salaries and increasing Tricare fees, it will still need to cut about 10% of personnel to be in line with the spending limit set in the Budget Control Act of 2011 -- and all that did was cap spending at 2007 levels.
youll get no argument from me. There is so much waste in the military that its mind boggling.... usually because of the politics at the top of the chain of command... corruption, contracts being awarded to companies because of how many kick backs theyre giving to a general somewhere, making vast sweeping unnecessary changes thay cost shit tons of money.... etc etc
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youll get no argument from me. There is so much waste in the military that its mind boggling.... usually because of the politics at the top of the chain of command... corruption, contracts being awarded to companies because of how many kick backs theyre giving to a general somewhere, making vast sweeping unnecessary changes thay cost shit tons of money.... etc etc
In my humble opinion....much of the waste comes from bureaucratic personnel/beauro-waste and not enlisted personnel. But much of the cuts, if they come, will come from combat manpower and the training/equipment etc that it requires.
Units aren't combat effective but General Do Nothing sure does have a shiny limo to ride around in.
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In my humble opinion....much of the waste comes from bureaucratic personnel/beauro-waste and not enlisted personnel. But much of the cuts, if they come, will come from combat manpower and the training/equipment etc that it requires.
Units aren't combat effective but General Do Nothing sure does have a shiny limo to ride around in.
of course. ... because the giys at the top wasting all the moneh arent just going to cut their lifestyles/power/influence..... theyre just going to cut it from someone else, who just so happens to be the guys that actually do all the work.