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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: galeniko on December 22, 2013, 05:23:05 PM
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for how long?
can this be run year round?
how was sex drivve?
how does it compare to test, all factors equal(diet)
done bloodwork?reesutls?
how was it on the hair?this is a strong candidate for the hairloss,isnt it
i heard from guys running nothing but this year round.needles to say look fantastic.
so?
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I have ran it by itself while training for a fight for 12 weeks.. I was very lean and had quality muscle.. I don't train for bodybuilding though so maybe I'm not the best person to talk to about this.. It is bad for the hair line and dries your scalp hair a lot.. My sex drive was a little increased but not as much as test or dbol...
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Ran it alone for 8 weeks at 800 mg weekly. It is my favorite drug other than testo. You need at least 600 mg, preferably 1 gram per week to really get a good result on its own. Super dryness. This is like the perfect drug for what you seem to want from your physique. As ripped as you already are, masterona will make you like Andreas Munzer. Sex drive off the charts. Tent pole all the time.
Nothing bad for hair loss for me,but i dont have problems with that too much.
Blood tests came back bad for the usual suspects. My cholesterol was totally backwards from what you want. Triglycerides also fucked. All reversed when i stopped.
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I have ran it by itself while training for a fight for 12 weeks.. I was very lean and had quality muscle.. I don't train for bodybuilding though so maybe I'm not the best person to talk to about this.. It is bad for the hair line and dries your scalp hair a lot.. My sex drive was a little increased but not as much as test or dbol...
nono bro,thats fine, atleast you can see your muscle and know whats happening,unlike the fatties,who have to guess. :D
and you ran it on its own, ie, all effects will be from that, no guesses,like when one runs a whole buffet.
hm, yah dry skin, i figured, based on what it is, that will happen most liekly.
sex drive, yes, but did it also stand?those are 2 different beasts ;D
@dago:
hm, so say 500 vs 500test doesnt come close, i guess test will be more powerul for fullness etc.
now id do 200-300no more i think.and observe the hair,see how it goes.
yes the rippedness,theres a guy who runs 300mg year round and hes drier than me, not necesarily leaner, but drier, a superior look, pisses me off endlessly ;D
would rather try year round than high dose.
yeah thats the question, would the cholesterol be more fucked on this or on test+adex(which is quite fucking terrible,lol)
no care for size, no care for power, all about the look
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nono bro,thats fine, atleast you can see your muscle and know whats happening,unlike the fatties,who have to guess. :D
and you ran it on its own, ie, all effects will be from that, no guesses,like when one runs a whole buffet.
hm, yah dry skin, i figured, based on what it is, that will happen most liekly.
sex drive, yes, but did it also stand?those are 2 different beasts ;D
@dago:
hm, so say 500 vs 500test doesnt come close, i guess test will be more powerul for fullness etc.
now id do 200-300no more i think.and observe the hair,see how it goes.
yes the rippedness,theres a guy who runs 300mg year round and hes drier than me, not necesarily leaner, but drier, a superior look, pisses me off endlessly ;D
would rather try year round than high dose.
yeah thats the question, would the cholesterol be more fucked on this or on test+adex(which is quite fucking terrible,lol)
no care for size, no care for power, all about the look
-Feel stronger on testo. Masterona was designed for women with breast cancer, so not really an ideal HRT drug, but great for hardness. I think you of all getbiggers would get the most bang out of masterona. I feel great while on it, like I said it is my favorite along with testo. The hair was fine for me, but I have used everything and only had minimal receding happen.
-The blood tests were bad for cholesterol and fats for me, but I have always had these bad even before using gear. Not sure about the test + adex being better or worse, my guess would be about the same. Masterona is an amazing drug. Far too underappreciated and underrated. If you notice any issues, you can always add in a really low dose of testo, like 100 mg a week or something.
Masterona is the greatest drug if you are as you say "all about the look". Give it a try and see how it works. Don't give up on it if nothing magical happens at 200-300, just bump it up a bit more.
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yea brother i have used masterona before, but thats been 10years ago.or even more,i totaly forgot, and since used everyhting together i couldnt tell what ped had whcih effect,it was wild times :D
all i remeber is dry dry dryyyy upper back and the biceps popping out like a cannonball,it looked like it gonna launch through the skin any second.
you could study the bicep vein and the biceps fibers through the paper think skin.it something that wont really happen on test.
yes on paper, its the perfect thing for the look, it beats tren as far sides go,it has less potential sides.
ofc its gonna lack the "boom" and exagerated fullnes from test e,lol, but no problem.
yeah thought about the same, to mix in some 50mg test e weekly, you know, to have the litle bit estrogen in the body, for cholesterol and hairs sake.
nono, 2-300 and thatll be it,what happens,happens.
hate it too much when the gains fade away when going lower again, or when the rippedness gets bit softer,
ill keep you updated, but i will bet that test+adex is worse for cholesterol.
if its ok-ish, dont see why this cant be ran all year
now natty, just looking for the spring-summer programme :D
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man maybe my mast is bunk, not dryness here. Lean but not dry. On a gram (with gram test-ace, gram tren-ace, gram npp). ???
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man maybe my mast is bunk, not dryness here. Lean but not dry. On a gram (with gram test-ace, gram tren-ace, gram npp). ???
dont knwo, hard to tell when running many compounds, something else could be bunk.
but if anythings suspect,then the npp imo.
and well, the test ofcourse, no matter the ester, there gonna be some water retention.
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dont knwo, hard to tell when running many compounds, something else could be bunk.
but if anythings suspect,then the npp imo.
and well, the test ofcourse, no matter the ester, there gonna be some water retention.
Yeah thinking of dropping the NPP, upping the test and tren. Just had blood work, E2 was < 10, too low to measure
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man maybe my mast is bunk, not dryness here. Lean but not dry. On a gram (with gram test-ace, gram tren-ace, gram npp). ???
Maybe it's EQ or another anabolic. You will know mast when you use it.
Any time I look back on my best pictures with the best conditioning, I was running good mast. It gets you dry and grainy, stringy fibers but full muscle bellies as long as you have a little test in your system. I always try running a little mast to round things off. Uses up unbound test instead of letting it convert through aromatase enzymes into estrogens, which is why it's sort of anti-estrogenic (doesn't attack estro directly, but curbs it before it pops up).
Great, great drug.
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Maybe it's EQ or another anabolic. You will know mast when you use it.
Any time I look back on my best pictures with the best conditioning, I was running good mast. It gets you dry and grainy, stringy fibers but full muscle bellies as long as you have a little test in your system. I always try running a little mast to round things off. Uses up unbound test instead of letting it convert through aromatase enzymes into estrogens, which is why it's sort of anti-estrogenic (doesn't attack estro directly, but curbs it before it pops up).
Great, great drug.
I hear that a lot about Mast. Odd thing is that EQ is usually a golden color, my mast is clear so I doubt it's EQ. Most likely Test or even NPP :/
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I hear that a lot about Mast. Odd thing is that EQ is usually a golden color, my mast is clear so I doubt it's EQ. Most likely Test or even NPP :/
Who knows? I've seen a lot of gear that was different colours. Lets put it this way - People are shit...
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Who knows? I've seen a lot of gear that was different colours. Lets put it this way - People are shit...
Very true unfortunately, not all sources that are said to be good actually are, particularly from open boards
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yah you never really know with ugl unless youre having it tested.
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My best cycle ever
300 test prop
300 mastron or 100 provirone .
I prefer the prov, if I had to chose.
Year around cycle, but I never did blood test also, so i can.t recommended.. 8)
No gh no other crapp.
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I know that proviron by itself doesn't do nothing but bad acne or hair loss and bad mood.
A trt dose of test will be much more productive i believe. A combo of both is the best.
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yah proviron does fuck all,lol.
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The only thing proviron is good for is increasing free test and making you get the most out of however much test you are currently taking without the need for increasing the overall dose. It isn't going to amount to jack shit otherwise. The so called libido increase only occurs because more free test is in the system.
I used masteron close to 9 weeks at the end of a cycle by itself. 600mg weekly. Unless you are dieting down and leaning up, there really isn't a reason for it overall in my opinion. It is quite mild unless you take a high dose and even then you don't see the real magic to it until you get really lean.
Hair wise, it is one of the worst, just like primo. But I never had an issue with it. Never really had any issue with any roid sides at all. Never break out, no hair loss, even high dose of winstrol doesn't cause my joints to ache. But every one is different.
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I'm going to try adding a small dose of masteron to my HRT dose. Would 200 mg/week be okay, or could I even start with 100 mg/week? I prefer starting as low as possible.
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The only thing proviron is good for is increasing free test and making you get the most out of however much test you are currently taking without the need for increasing the overall dose. It isn't going to amount to jack shit otherwise. The so called libido increase only occurs because more free test is in the system.
I used masteron close to 9 weeks at the end of a cycle by itself. 600mg weekly. Unless you are dieting down and leaning up, there really isn't a reason for it overall in my opinion. It is quite mild unless you take a high dose and even then you don't see the real magic to it until you get really lean.
Hair wise, it is one of the worst, just like primo. But I never had an issue with it. Never really had any issue with any roid sides at all. Never break out, no hair loss, even high dose of winstrol doesn't cause my joints to ache. But every one is different.
yah, kinda, if one dont get hairloss from test, he wont get harloss from same dose of masterona either.
how was libido while on just that?
theres one guy in the gym, grainy bonedry lok all year, runs nothing but this all year, thats why im asking.
i ran it before but with all different kinds of peds, so couldnt tell,lol.
chers,good reply
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I'm going to try adding a small dose of masteron to my HRT dose. Would 200 mg/week be okay, or could I even start with 100 mg/week? I prefer starting as low as possible.
I do this year round pretty much. 200 mg T.Cyp + 200 mg Masterona. Feel great and no sides. 100 mg is too low. If you are going that low, just get proviron and add that to your testo.
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I do this year round pretty much. 200 mg T.Cyp + 200 mg Masterona. Feel great and no sides. 100 mg is too low. If you are going that low, just get proviron and add that to your testo.
Thanks, I will start at 200 then. Two vials coming in next week.
I realize it is subjective, but how would you rate the move from just 250 mg test to 250 mg test plus 200 mg mast?
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Thanks, I will start at 200 then. Two vials coming in next week.
I realize it is subjective, but how would you rate the move from just 250 mg test to 250 mg test plus 200 mg mast?
Nothing drastically different, just dryer and libido increased. SHBG lowered by masterona and proviron.
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yah proviron does fuck all,lol.
It's a very weak DHT based steroid, but it has it's place. If someone can't handle too much mast for reasons like prostate issues this could be handy (BPH is real - I can't take ephedrine anymore because of it!). Libido issues, it can be helpful. And if someone's off cycle they can even use it for libido issues. Helps to grab up all that unbound test which inherently curbs estrogen issues and doesn't carry a huge risk of shut down. I know lots of people, myself included, who've used it off cycle and it was great.
9 times out of 10 this will be close to useless which is true though. But proviron's saved my butt a couple of times.
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yah thats what proviron does,but nothing as far gains or muscle go.
hm,are ppl sure if someone runs test and then adds mast to that, he becomes dryier?all factors being same, diet etc?
im not so sure about that.
is the claim that masteron typical results will overtake the typical test results?
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yah thats what proviron does,but nothing as far gains or muscle go.
hm,are ppl sure if someone runs test and then adds mast to that, he becomes dryier?all factors being same, diet etc?
im not so sure about that.
is the claim that masteron typical results will overtake the typical test results?
lol gains... yeah, it wouldn't give a 12 year old girl any gains for sure. I never looked at it as something used for growth. Just a steroid with a good niche use.
Well, what I mentioned earlier about it being slightly anti-estrogenic it does seem to dry you out. However, I never run much more than a couple of mls of test per week so that's just enough to keep me feeling regular. I have no experience with big doses of test. I just don't care for large amount of test. Haven't used over a gram in years so maybe I'm more tolerant towards it. I haven't gotten a zit or anything in a long time.
Anyone else run high test, high mast? Maybe it might be good. I just need a few hundred mgs of mast a week and I feel godly.
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My scalp gets very dry, starts flaking whenever I run high dht compound or test without finasteride.
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I was running a lot of test when I was very young. Always 2-3ccs a week with an oral in and out. After 3-4 years of this I looked like bloated shit. All of that estrogen caught up to me I was a mess. Well I cut everything out and started a diet along with 150mg of masteron eod. It got the estrogen under control pretty quickly and burned a lot of that estrogen fat off of me. Slowly I added test back in. My cycles were soo much better I looked ten times better. Masteron is one of the best compounds you need it in there to keep things balanced.
For your case try low dose test 200-300 mg masteron. If you feel sides drop it for a couple weeks you will look nice and full for a month until you spill over again.
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for how long?
can this be run year round?
how was sex drivve?
how does it compare to test, all factors equal(diet)
done bloodwork?reesutls?
how was it on the hair?this is a strong candidate for the hairloss,isnt it
i heard from guys running nothing but this year round.needles to say look fantastic.
so?
What are the biggest differences between mast and winny? It seems like they're interchangeable?
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What are the biggest differences between mast and winny? It seems like they're interchangeable?
Not really. Masteron is a superior drug imo. winny is good when used with testo, but on its own not so great. Masteron doesnt give me any joint issues like winny does. That is the big difference for me. Otherwise, they both are good for the "dry" look. Masteron is more refined thats all, not that winny is totally useless but it needs testo to really mitigate some of the joint issues.
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What are the biggest differences between mast and winny? It seems like they're interchangeable?
i think masteron is a hefty amount stronger.
yah i think something like 350 winny weekly doesnt come anywhere close to 300weekly masteron.
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I will do a gram of masteron this week and post what happened.
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i think masteron is a hefty amount stronger.
yah i think something like 350 winny weekly doesnt come anywhere close to 300weekly masteron.
I'm a big advocate for winny. When combined with test I feel like I get a tight, leaned out physique that I attribute mostly to winstrol. My cardio sessions seem to be enhanced as well.
Having never never tried mast I'm interested if you think it's effects are similar to winny just enhanced? Are we talking just certain things like joint pain relief. Because I've never had a problem with joint pain on winny.
Or is mast superior in every aspect? Strength increase, leaning out, ect?
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I'm a big advocate for winny. When combined with test I feel like I get a tight, leaned out physique that I attribute mostly to winstrol. My cardio sessions seem to be enhanced as well.
Having never never tried mast I'm interested if you think it's effects are similar to winny just enhanced? Are we talking just certain things like joint pain relief. Because I've never had a problem with joint pain on winny.
Or is mast superior in every aspect? Strength increase, leaning out, ect?
I find it superior to winny period. Like i said, a much more potent drug. It does everything winny does and more , plus none of the joint problems. Just try it instead of the winny and see what it does.
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I find it superior to winny period. Like i said, a much more potent drug. It does everything winny does and more , plus none of the joint problems. Just try it instead of the winny and see what it does.
Crazy. This seems to be the consensus concerning mast. The more I look into it the more people vouch for it-I just never really gave it much thought before for some reason.
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Crazy. This seems to be the consensus concerning mast. The more I look into it the more people vouch for it-I just never really gave it much thought before for some reason.
The problems are that most guys don't use enough or are using so much other gear they don't notice what it does. Mainly that they do not use enough.
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masteron is the hands down best ped out there.hands down.theres no debate whatsoever.
so i heard.
:D
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masteron is the hands down best ped out there.hands down.theres no debate whatsoever.
so i heard.
:D
100mg/day for optimum results.
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I will do a gram of masteron this week and post what happened.
Your muscles will have muscles and your vascularity will have vascularity. And then some.
Wot?
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:P
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in my experience i ran out test once and used 400-500mg of masteron alone for hrt it really shocked me how good it was for gains and keeping gains I personally think mg for mg its as strong as test for muscle gains just scale weight doesnt go up a lot and like said its used in to low of doses with other stuff to know whats going on also it is $$$ mg for mg compared to other options
how can a strong androgen not be good for muscle gains?
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So what dose would be good to run it at for 8 to 10 weeks? 300mg? Or more like 600-800mg?
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if you did 500 test weekly and do 500mast weekly in replacement.
the mast will blow the test right out of the water.
same gains without the water issues.strenght and recovery superior to test.
can be ran on itself.
this all i hvae on good authorithy.heard so, you know :D
adex shuts down estrogen better than masteron will.this is soemthing some dont get.youre not safe frome strogen sides when on mast.it jsut wont convert.dont mean there wont be no estrogen.
inform yourselves how estrogen comes to be.
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if you did 500 test weekly and do 500mast weekly in replacement.
the mast will blow the test right out of the water.
same gains without the water issues.strenght and recovery superior to test.
can be ran on itself.
this all i hvae on good authorithy.heard so, you know :D
adex shuts down estrogen better than masteron will.this is soemthing some dont get.youre not safe frome strogen sides when on mast.it jsut wont convert.dont mean there wont be no estrogen.
inform yourselves how estrogen comes to be.
EXACTLY right about the estrogen!! A lot of guys think masteron is an AI, but it is not. It doesn't convert, but that doesnt mean all the other ways estrogen is produced are not still in effect.
And not sure if I would ever make a direct testo vs masteron comparison. Two different animals. Masteron vs primo or winny, mast always wins. Testo is the king of all gear. Nothing else really can directly compare. But that being said, if i had to do any other gear on its own it would be masteron or dianabol. Both on their own give solid results if you take enough.
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yah test is the king all things consdiered.but the water issues are no fun.
the estrogen conversion is quite hefty.
can be fought with diet to a degree, or something like adex,but that will have its sides.
test is not the strongest, but still king.
but theres other choices with bit different prperties
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When I'm old and I've had enough blast and cruise I'll prob run 1 cc test and 150-200 mg masteron until I'm too old to care.
Masteron is definitely a bread and butter compound for me. My arms were never veiny until I used it. In the summer I had a sick vein running from my dick all the way to my chest. Love the stuff. Test deca mast is all you need I don't touch anything else. I feel like you can stay relatively healthy with those 3.
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Jokes aside, if you want a very good make-up steroid use primo. No sides at all comparing with masteron or winstrol.
Fortunately i can get my hands on legit spanish primobolan depot, i think bayer now owns it.
I pay 9 to 10€ an ampoul.
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Jokes aside, if you want a very good make-up steroid use primo. No sides at all comparing with masteron or winstrol.
Fortunately i can get my hands on legit spanish primobolan depot, i think bayer now owns it.
I pay 9 to 10€ an ampoul.
If I lived in a legal country and had access to legit primo amps I would never come off the stuff just change the dose. I got some good primo 2 years ago. I remember waking up hungover one morning I had a girl in my bed from the night before so I was all pumped up from banging her all morning when I looked in the mirror I was so full and polished looking I just stared at myself for about 20 minutes. I was running moderate test high masteron high primo.
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If I lived in a legal country and had access to legit primo amps I would never come off the stuff just change the dose. I got some good primo 2 years ago. I remember waking up hungover one morning I had a girl in my bed from the night before so I was all pumped up from banging her all morning when I looked in the mirror I was so full and polished looking I just stared at myself for about 20 minutes. I was running moderate test high masteron high primo.
lol,brother haha
primo is by far,by wide margin the weakest of those 3.
would say the sex drive def came from either test or mast, or the combo of the both.lol.
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lol,brother haha
primo is by far,by wide margin the weakest of those 3.
would say the sex drive def came from either test or mast, or the combo of the both.lol.
I agree it's the weakest but it adds something that nothing else really can. I can't imagine what a high dose of pharmacy primo could do. Mine was prob underexposed. Test npp and mast has treated me the best in the summer. You have to start lean though. Npp actually leaned me out quite a bit and I was eating like shit.
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Just playing devil's advocate here now. Why not just use tren-a along w/ a little test if water retention and hardness of your primary concerns?
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I'm a big advocate for winny. When combined with test I feel like I get a tight, leaned out physique that I attribute mostly to winstrol. My cardio sessions seem to be enhanced as well.
Having never never tried mast I'm interested if you think it's effects are similar to winny just enhanced? Are we talking just certain things like joint pain relief. Because I've never had a problem with joint pain on winny.
Or is mast superior in every aspect? Strength increase, leaning out, ect?
I use to like Winstrol but now I hate it.. It makes you so much more prone to injury and really fucks up cholesterol...
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Did masteron by itself at a gram for last two weeks.
Better pumps, more veins and an insane appetite surge.
Last night I ate like a tub of ice cream with 12 whole eggs , 100 gram kidney beans, lot of baked potatoes and a litre of diet soda.
Was hungry again within an hour.