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Title: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 06:25:16 AM
"theory" of general /special relativity has never been proven its only a theory and the basis of einstiens theory is from the lorenz equation wich is wrong. special relativity was created for the sole reason of proving michelson morleys wrong that the earth wasnt moving (geocentrism) mainstream science basically excepted einstien even though his theory was just a theory and michelson morleys experiment swept under the rug



Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: bebop396 on December 23, 2013, 06:28:25 AM
In modern science, the term "theory" refers to scientific theories, a well-confirmed type of explanation of nature, made in a way consistent with scientific method, and fulfilling the criteria required by modern science. Such theories are described in such a way that any scientist in the field is in a position to understand and either provide empirical support ("verify") or empirically contradict ("falsify") it. Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge,[2] in contrast to more common uses of the word "theory" that imply that something is unproven or speculative (which is better defined by the word 'hypothesis').[3] Scientific theories are also distinguished from hypotheses, which are individual empirically testable conjectures, and scientific laws, which are descriptive accounts of how nature will behave under certain conditions.[4]
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 06:31:40 AM
In modern science, the term "theory" refers to scientific theories, a well-confirmed type of explanation of nature, made in a way consistent with scientific method, and fulfilling the criteria required by modern science. Such theories are described in such a way that any scientist in the field is in a position to understand and either provide empirical support ("verify") or empirically contradict ("falsify") it. Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge,[2] in contrast to more common uses of the word "theory" that imply that something is unproven or speculative (which is better defined by the word 'hypothesis').[3] Scientific theories are also distinguished from hypotheses, which are individual empirically testable conjectures, and scientific laws[/b], which are descriptive accounts of how nature will behave under certain conditions.[4]
it is not a scientific law it is a theory wich still hasnt been proven , makes you think

its a great listen the video youll have to take notes and listen over and over a few times
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: SF1900 on December 23, 2013, 06:32:34 AM
Johnny Falcon teaching Einstein a thing or two about physics!!
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 06:34:11 AM
Johnny Falcon teaching Einstein a thing or two about physics!!
well the mainstream m-asshole media will have you accept a theory as a LAW! just how its accepted to eat MEAT. group mentality kills, the individual knows best!
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 06:47:25 AM
the problem with heliocentrism they claim the earth has no revolution

  they cant detect detect earth revolving around the sun

but they can detect a daily rotation

this is the problem with heliocentrism, you have to be able to detect a revolution around the sun And a rotation on the earths axis to account for the day and night an 4 seasons, if you dont have both then heliocentrism is falsified

you cant have a revolution without a rotation and a rotation without a revolution
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: SF1900 on December 23, 2013, 06:48:10 AM
well the mainstream m-asshole media will have you accept a theory as a LAW! just how its accepted to eat MEAT. group mentality kills, the individual knows best!


A "Theory" is the highest achievement you can reach in science. It is the pinnacle of scientific success.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 06:49:08 AM


A "Theory" is the highest achievement you can reach in science. It is the pinnacle of scientific success.
listen to the video when you have time
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Gonuclear on December 23, 2013, 06:51:24 AM
well the mainstream m-asshole media will have you accept a theory as a LAW! just how its accepted to eat MEAT. group mentality kills, the individual knows best!

The more you post this shit, the more of a retard you reveal yourself to be.

Einstein has been proved right by literally thousands of experiments and validated predictions.

There is also a theory that you are a flat out idiot.  That may have been validated even more than Special and General Relativity, thanks to your brain dead posts.

Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 07:13:27 AM
The more you post this shit, the more of a retard you reveal yourself to be.

Einstein has been proved right by literally thousands of experiments and validated predictions.

There is also a theory that you are a flat out idiot.  That may have been validated even more than Special and General Relativity, thanks to your brain dead posts.


Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 07:17:24 AM
The more you post this shit, the more of a retard you reveal yourself to be.

Einstein has been proved right by literally thousands of experiments and validated predictions.

There is also a theory that you are a flat out idiot.  That may have been validated even more than Special and General Relativity, thanks to your brain dead posts.


Earth rotates on its axis and revolves around the sun, the sun ... But there is no mathematical model for such thing, not even in General Relativity.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Vince B on December 23, 2013, 07:27:12 AM
Where do you come up with this totally foolish shit? Shake your silly head and stop wasting everyone's time. You and Wiggs are lunatics.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2013, 07:31:25 AM
Where do you come up with this totally foolish shit? Shake your silly head and stop wasting everyone's time. You and Wiggs are lunatics.
mate they all want to be getbig "names" and try to be ...well Clowns.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: deceiver on December 23, 2013, 07:33:56 AM
Sir, you are an idiot who wouldn't solve second degree equation.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2013, 08:14:03 AM
Sir, you are an idiot who wouldn't solve second degree equation.
shit blood out your arse :D
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: SF1900 on December 23, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
Sir, you are an idiot who wouldn't solve second degree equation.


Are you implying that Einstein may know more about physics than Johnny Falcon? :o :o
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 23, 2013, 10:01:59 AM
I only at a few peanuts at the NFL Panther game yesterday a couple of people try to to push a cheeseburger on me.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: SF1900 on December 23, 2013, 10:05:35 AM
I only at a few peanuts at the NFL Panther game yesterday a couple of people try to to push a cheeseburger on me.


Bro, stay away from the heme iron.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 23, 2013, 10:12:39 AM


Bro, stay away from the heme iron.
I ain't eating that shit.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: deceiver on December 23, 2013, 10:39:22 AM


Are you implying that Einstein may know more about physics than Johnny Falcon? :o :o

Damn, you're right, that premise is ridiculous.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: galeniko on December 23, 2013, 10:55:19 AM
the getbid science council putting einstein to the junkyard of history

just another day on getbig
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: galeniko on December 23, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
its a suprise this hasnt happened before.

einstein was at disadvantage he only had books , we have youtube.

Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 02:31:10 PM
 The motions of the planets are the same in both systems (heliocentric and geocentric), just seen from different perspectives. The planet isn't really stopping, going back a bit, and then changing direction again. That's just the perspective as seen from Earth due to the fact that the sun is orbiting Earth and Mars is orbiting the sun.

Heliocentrism ignores the rest of the universe while focusing only on the sun and its gravity. It thereby creates an isolated local system called "the solar system" which does not take into account the rotating mass of the universe as seen from Earth. It makes the assumption that Earth is rotating and not the universe. Thus heliocentrism is not even a cosmology - and no one today holds that it is.

Geocentrism, on the other hand, is actually a complete cosmology as what we observe about the universe is taken at face value and includes all objects in the universe at once.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: temple_of_dis on December 23, 2013, 02:44:59 PM
"theory" of general /special relativity has never been proven its only a theory and the basis of einstiens theory is from the lorenz equation wich is wrong. special relativity was created for the sole reason of proving michelson morleys wrong that the earth wasnt moving (geocentrism) mainstream science basically excepted einstien even though his theory was just a theory and michelson morleys experiment swept under the rug





truth here

tesla was better
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 03:21:53 PM
truth here

tesla was better
pretty much everything we are lead to beleive is wrong, even satan wrote the bible

The Whole LIE by BULL

but here is another lie yet again, satan wasnt really a bad guy, he was still gods friend, god let him live he just didnt want him as a roomate anymore, if he hated satan (as we are lead to beleive) he wouldve destroyed him
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 23, 2013, 03:31:59 PM
See the Klingon's tried to derail Captain Kirk from completing his goal.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 03:39:08 PM
See the Klingon's tried to derail Captain Kirk from completing his goal.
http://galileowaswrong.com/
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 03:45:48 PM
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2010/09/13/geocentrism-was-galileo-wrong/
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Wiggs on December 23, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
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Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: haider on December 23, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
like you understand any of this actually means, lol.

How about start with physics 101, understand simple mechanics before proceeding to relativity, quantum theory, etc.?
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 03:50:03 PM
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Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Wiggs on December 23, 2013, 03:52:07 PM
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Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 23, 2013, 03:53:59 PM
Danny Ferry lost his hair probably ate to many steaks.

Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 03:55:21 PM
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Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 03:57:17 PM
Danny Ferry lost his hair probably ate to many steaks.


daniel ferry went off the tracks he's in rehab with henry J falcons still to this day the best free throw shooter 99 percentile
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 23, 2013, 03:59:24 PM
daniel ferry went off the tracks he's in rehab with henry J falcons still to this day the best free throw shooter 99 percentile
How can he look like this? Probably gonna have to pay some some popping ass internet hoe now for satisfaction.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 04:03:57 PM
How can he look like this? Probably gonna have to pay some some popping ass internet hoe now for satisfaction.
(http://members.jacksonville.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/editorial/images/images/mdControlled/cms/2010/12/17/757648730.jpg)
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 07:00:28 PM
what is all this crap - GPS relies on relativity to work properly - get your facts straight and stop regurgitating dodgy information.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 07:02:26 PM
what is all this crap - GPS relies on relativity to work properly - get your facts straight and stop regurgitating dodgy information.
they explain that in the video

Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: The Scott on December 23, 2013, 07:08:16 PM
You can fool yourself, but that's easy when you're a fool.  Who's your tailor?
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 07:10:18 PM
they explain that in the video



Thanks but I'll rely on the near unanimous knowledge of the physics community.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 07:16:02 PM
mainstream gives you part of the picture thats why its only recently tesla has been given the credit he deserves hmmm

our culture has a history of bullshitting to the max level

a half way intelligent mind can atleast entertain an opposite point of view without accepting it
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 07:18:28 PM
mainstream gives you part of the picture thats why its only recently tesla has been given the credit he deserves,

When they start teaching these things at real universities i'll take it seriously.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 07:21:06 PM
When they start teaching these things at real universities i'll take it seriously.
a half way intelligent mind can atleast entertain an opposite point of view without accepting it

maybe you are more qualified to get the story straight
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 07:21:27 PM
I'm reading up on Robert Sungenis - he's described as a Catholic apologist. I'm inclined not to take his matters on Science seriously.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 07:22:34 PM
a half way intelligent mind can atleast entertain an opposite point of view without accepting it

maybe you are more qualified to get the story straight

I haven't got two and half hours to waste - at some point you've got to draw the line. Yes millions of man hours of physics + engineering > than what you are presenting here.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 07:25:12 PM
I'm reading up on Robert Sungenis - he's described as a Catholic apologist. I'm inclined not to take his matters on Science seriously.

because of that you should discard everything he says

some would say this about hitler aswell

you should only listen to a man if he is like you and thinks like you and agrees with you

Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 07:26:42 PM
I haven't got two and half hours to waste - at some point you've got to draw the line. Yes millions of man hours of physics + engineering > than what you are presenting here.
you could listen to it while doing cardio or watching pawn stars or whatever you do.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 07:39:50 PM
you could listen to it while doing cardio or watching pawn stars or whatever you do.

No i would have to really listen and think about it - and really it smells like pseudoscience.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 07:40:59 PM
because of that you should discard everything he says

some would say this about hitler aswell

you should only listen to a man if he is like you and thinks like you and agrees with you



I don't listen to the man because he attempts to elevate the ramblings of ancient goat herders above all else no matter the consequences.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 08:00:19 PM
I don't listen to the man because he attempts to elevate the ramblings of ancient goat herders above all else no matter the consequences.
he speaks less than a minite in the whole video of over 2 hours about religion. they told me i can lead a horse to water but i cant make him drink

i wonder why the horse didnt drink, i cant figure it out
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
he speaks less than a minite in the whole video of over 2 hours about religion. they told me i can lead a horse to water but i cant make him drink

i wonder why the horse didnt drink, i cant figure it out

You don't need to read every book on Earth to know that some of them are full of crap.

From wikipedia (quote):

Sungenis is an advocate of geocentrism. He believes that physics and the Bible show that the sun and all the planets orbit the Earth and that the Earth does not rotate. Sungenis published a 1000+ page book Galileo Was Wrong The Church Was Right saying that it would "give Scripture its due place and show that science is not all it's cracked up to be." For several years, his website offered a $1000 reward to anyone who could prove heliocentrism and disprove geocentrism. Mainstream scientists reject this cosmological view as demonstrably false and untenable.[17]


I'll take Occam's razor on this one - is one obscure religious apologist right about the world of physics or is the physics community with it's millions of man hours of research behind it right?
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 08:08:51 PM
You don't need to read every book on Earth to know that some of them are full of crap.

From wikipedia (quote):

Sungenis is an advocate of geocentrism. He believes that physics and the Bible show that the sun and all the planets orbit the Earth and that the Earth does not rotate. Sungenis published a 1000+ page book Galileo Was Wrong The Church Was Right saying that it would "give Scripture its due place and show that science is not all it's cracked up to be." For several years, his website offered a $1000 reward to anyone who could prove heliocentrism and disprove geocentrism. Mainstream scientists reject this cosmological view as demonstrably false and untenable.[17]


I'll take Occam's razor on this one - is one obscure religious apologist right about the world of physics or is the physics community with it's millions of man hours of research behind it right?
so why dont you prove heliocentrism and disprove geocentrism and collect your 1000 dollar reward. i dont get what exactly your trying to cling onto her
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 08:11:20 PM
so why dont you prove heliocentrism and disprove geocentrism and collect your 1000 dollar reward. i dont get what exactly your trying to cling onto her

Meh - I don't need the money - the guy has obviously got a hard head, I doubt anything I say will change his mind. Further I don't need to prove/disprove anything - it's all been done by my friends Galileo, Newton, Einstein.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 08:22:35 PM
Meh - I don't need the money - the guy has obviously got a hard head, I doubt anything I say will change his mind. Further I don't need to prove/disprove anything - it's all been done by my friends Galileo, Newton, Einstein.
and why would you , his religious tentativeness alone  is a turn off

Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 08:25:53 PM
and why would you , his religious tentativeness alone  is a turn off



He is not religiously tentative - read his bio - he simply avoided trying to push religion (in this instance) to make his pseudoscience more palatable.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 23, 2013, 08:35:07 PM
He is not religiously tentative - read his bio - he simply avoided trying to push religion (in this instance) to make his pseudoscience more palatable.


then whats wrong with him not pushing his relgion in the video? the video is where the facts lye

cant a man be who he wants to be?

i could careless if he were pushing a new reptilian agenda in his bio

face it man in life youre not gonna have a that "yes man" where everything he says you say "yes"

Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: gcb on December 23, 2013, 08:44:49 PM


then whats wrong with him not pushing his relgion in the video? the video is where the facts lye

cant a man be who he wants to be?

i could careless if he were pushing a new reptilian agenda in his bio

face it man in life youre not gonna have a that "yes man" where everything he says you say "yes"



Nothing wrong with not pushing religion - people should do it more often.  He has an agenda - that is my point.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: temple_of_dis on December 23, 2013, 11:36:41 PM
the getbid science council putting einstein to the junkyard of history

just another day on getbig

bodybuilding: art or science?
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 24, 2013, 05:18:34 AM
Nothing wrong with not pushing religion - people should do it more often.  He has an agenda - that is my point.
so nothing on the agenda for you today i take it  :-\
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 24, 2013, 08:22:22 AM
A great singer right ther.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Vince B on December 25, 2013, 04:45:03 PM
so why dont you prove heliocentrism and disprove geocentrism and collect your 1000 dollar reward. i dont get what exactly your trying to cling onto her

I honestly wouldn't let you post if I owned this forum. Absolute bullshit coming from you on a daily basis. You are proving that many muscleheads are knuckleheads.

Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 25, 2013, 05:09:57 PM
I honestly wouldn't let you post if I owned this forum. Absolute bullshit coming from you on a daily basis. You are proving that many muscleheads are knuckleheads.


enjoy empiracle evidence, knowledge of gps , and faster than light travel speed.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 25, 2013, 05:13:46 PM
What do know about the sound barrier Johnny what causes that sonic boom sound.
Title: Re: very good argument for geocentrism, and how einstiens
Post by: Marty Champions on December 25, 2013, 05:30:50 PM
What do know about the sound barrier Johnny what causes that sonic boom sound.
cant help you there bro did you watch the video. you might need a few carbs to pay attention its not easy for me to catch everything on first try. but good shit