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http://www.npr.org/2013/12/27/257363943/marines-most-female-recruits-dont-meet-new-pullup-standard?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=nprfacebook&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=facebook
Starting Jan. 1, every woman in the Marines Corps was supposed to meet a new physical standard by performing three pullups. But that has been put off.
The Marine Corps announced it quietly. There was no news conference — just a notice on its social media sites and an item on its own TV show, The Corps Report.
Lance Cpl. Ally Beiswanger explained that the pullup test had been put off until sometime next year, to gather more data and "ensure all female Marines are given the best opportunity to succeed."
So far, female Marines are not succeeding. Fifty-five percent of female recruits tested at the end of boot camp were doing fewer than three pullups; only 1 percent of male recruits failed the test.
The three pullups is already the minimum required for all male Marines. Now the Marine Corps has postponed the plan, and that's raising questions about whether women have the physical strength to handle ground combat, which they'll be allowed to do beginning in 2016.
Marine officers would not talk to NPR on tape. They said they delayed the pullup requirement to avoid losing not only recruits but also current female Marines who can't pass the test.
The Marine Corps has been using it to test upper body strength for men for more than 40 years. And that upper body strength, they say, is necessary to serve in ground combat: to pull yourself out of a canal in Afghanistan, to climb over a mud wall, to carry an ammunition box.
Setting A Tougher Standard
Related NPR stories
Pfc. Katie Gorz (center) served as a squad leader during the training at Camp Geiger, N.C.
National Security
Women Pass Marine Training, Clear First Hurdle To Combat Role
Women in the U.S. military will be integrated into front-line combat units by 2016, the Pentagon says. Here, female Marine recruits stand in formation during pugil stick training in boot camp earlier this year at Parris Island, S.C.
The Two-Way
'Days Of Rambo Are Over': Pentagon Details Women's Move To Combat
Women In Combat: Obstacles Remain As Exclusion Policy Ends
For years, female Marines have had to meet a different standard — an exercise called the "flexed arm hang" (holding one's chin above the pullup bar for at least 15 seconds).
But beginning in 2016, women in the Marine Corps and Army will be allowed to serve in infantry, armor and artillery units. And they'll need to be strong enough to climb those mud walls and carry ammunition.
Robert Maginnis, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, says the delay shows that women just can't meet the same standards.
"Young women, in spite of all the training and all the best intentions, are not going to be the equal of young men in terms of upper body strength," Maginnis says. "You've got to have a lot of upper body strength to lift the stuff. Been there, done that."
Maginnis just wrote a book called Deadly Consequences: How Cowards are Pushing Women into Combat. He says the issue has more to do with politics than protecting the nation.
A Former Marine Says It's Possible
However, Greg Jacob, a former Marine, says women can build the strength they need for pullups, and he has seen it done.
He served as a Marine infantry officer in the Balkans and Africa, and now he works for the Service Women's Action Network, a group that advocates for military women. When he was a Marine trainer in North Carolina, he required his female instructors to knock out pullups just like the guys.
"At first, a lot of women weren't able to do it," Jacob says. "They were able to do one, some were able to do two, but what happened was by having that standard and enforcing that standard, it made my Marines, it made the troops go to the gym and train to that standard."
Within six months, all of the women in his company were doing eight to 12 pullups, he says.
Jacob says the Marine Corps must do a better job of training women to reach the same standard as men. A small number of female Marines already have made it: So far, 13 women have passed advanced combat training. One of the requirements is three pullups.
"It's a squad-sized unit that's ready to go, and they're not sending them to their infantry unit simply because they're women," Jacob says.
Some Marine officers privately say only a handful of Marine women will show interest in combat or be able to pass the course.
Meantime, Corps Report TV anchor Lance Cpl. Ally Beiswanger wants to see if she can get over the first physical hurdle and do those pullups.
She admitted to her audience that she could only do one pullup last year.
"Now I'm up to eight, so I'm taking advantage of the extra time to complete my goal of 12 pullups," she said on the show.
And what about the larger goal of women in ground combat? That's still two years away.
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Most of the fatties in my gym , males, cant do three either.
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This is what happens with major fire departments and top shelf police departments. Women can't pass the physical test. Everyone claims it's biased against women. Then they lower the standard. The same with the academic test. Minorities fail then they lower the grade needed.
The Marine corps under Obama will eliminate the pull up requirement for women I predict. I know all the liberals want women in combat. They will lower all the requirements and suddenly they will get what they want. A woman Seal to decorate in the white house. Hollywood will make up a half fiction movie about her and the under 45 crowd will think it's actually factual.
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I dont give a shit about gender. I'm shocked people cannot do 3 pullups. Shocked.
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War on men has been going on for decades in America...
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they can't even do 3 bastardised cross fit kipping pull ups?
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I dont give a shit about gender. I'm shocked people cannot do 3 pullups. Shocked.
most of the bloofy meat heads in my gym cant do three good ones.
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Chicks tend to be shit at carrying weight, too. Been on courses where all the section kit was distributed among the men as the women complained that they couldn't carry anymore weight. That's equality for you.
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they can't even do 3 bastardised cross fit kipping pull ups?
Cross Fit is total nonsense.
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most of the bloofy meat heads in my gym cant do three good ones.
i'm a skinnyfat twink human toilet that worships obama's cokehead ways, and even I can knock out 12 body weight pullups without stopping.
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It's not even a question of 'male upper body strength' at 3. Anyone who isn't a lardass can do 3 lousy pullups, regardless of sex. The average highschool girl on any sports team could do half a dozen at least.
I'm amazed someone who can't muster 3 pullups could deal with the cardio or any basic PT. Also amazed to hear that men are only required to manage 3. I would have guessed 20 minimum for the Marines.
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i'm a skinnyfat twink human toilet that worships obama's cokehead ways, and even I can knock out 12 body weight pullups without stopping.
Post the vid.
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While I was at the fire academy(yeah, I went to the fire academy) there was a women at least 60 lbs overweight who was unable to pass any of the physical standards. Her test scores were not horrible but around the middle of the class. Not only did she pass but she was one of the first recruits hired out of the academy.
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I wonder what physical tests these beasts had to pass to be police officers.
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It's not even a question of 'male upper body strength' at 3. Anyone who isn't a lardass can do 3 lousy pullups, regardless of sex. The average highschool girl on any sports team could do half a dozen at least.
I'm amazed someone who can't muster 3 pullups could deal with the cardio or any basic PT. Also amazed to hear that men are only required to manage 3. I would have guessed 20 minimum for the Marines.
Haha more delusional than Goodrum
You must be a monster.... pray tell, how many can you do?
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It was 10 minimum when I enlisted. But then again we didn't have a DS who wasn't allowed to swear and we weren't issues "stress cards" in case our fucking feeling got hurt.
Today's military is going to shit. I even read the Gov't is scared because they can't seem to recruit enough troops because this new generation is too fat.
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Yeah but we're not talking firemen or cops who sleep in their own cozy bed every night. It's the Marines. I always thought of them as the toughest ones around.
I dont give a shit about gender. I'm shocked people cannot do 3 pullups. Shocked.
I'm having a hard time believing this too. I figured the Marines would beat you with an iron pipe and leave you in a swamp for failing something like that.
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Post the vid.
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Yeah but we're not talking firemen or cops who sleep in their own cozy bed every night. It's the Marines. I always thought of them as the toughest ones around.
I'm having a hard time believing this too. I figured the Marines would beat you with an iron pipe and leave you in a swamp for failing something like that.
In my gym most guys wont even go near the pull up bar. Instead they load up the lat pull down machine and do a version of that exercise the quivelent of CF kipping
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Fuck these girls - take the able she beasts and drop the jelly bodied rest.
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Not to mention, the police force is no different. Up here in Seattle they are having trouble recruiting cause of all the fatties. They even got rid of their "no visible tattoo" rule among other rules in hopes they can get some fresh blood. I just don't understand why you'd let yourself go if you were a cop. I mean its a job where you will (not if) , sooner or later, have to overpower someone for your life.
Especially with the rise of MMA lots of better fighters out there than there was 10yrs ago.
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Haha more delusional than Goodrum
You must be a monster.... pray tell, how many can you do?
I'll do 20, 10, 8 chins with 60s rest on a good day because I'm fairly skinny. My barbell numbers are shit and therefore top secret. But wtf I'm 41 and not a Marine.
A highschool girl is going to manage a half dozen just fine if she's thin and into sport.
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The new requirement should be 3 sets of pulldowns for 10 and then chug a protein shake in less than 60 seconds. Sounds easier than it looks.
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Not to mention, the police force is no different. Up here in Seattle they are having trouble recruiting cause of all the fatties. They even got rid of their "no visible tattoo" rule among other rules in hopes they can get some fresh blood. I just don't understand why you'd let yourself go if you were a cop. I mean its a job where you will (not if) , sooner or later, have to overpower someone for your life.
Especially with the rise of MMA lots of better fighters out there than there was 10yrs ago.
Cops have guns, tasers, pepper spray, batons and most importantly, a partner and back up.
For a SWAT team, sure, you've got a point. But a beat cop?
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I think myself and my (female) training partner are the only ones in my gym that do pull ups. She can do 6, shes a strong vavina-posseser
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I'll do 20, 10, 8 chins with 60s rest on a good day because I'm fairly skinny. My barbell numbers are shit and therefore top secret. But wtf I'm 41 and not a Marine.
A highschool girl is going to manage a half dozen just fine if she's thin and into sport.
;D Well played.
6 good pullups is a LOT for a girl, even a gymnast. Granted, the Marine interpretation of a pull up is less then strict, but still
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I wonder what physical tests these beasts had to pass to be police officers.
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Pathetic. This is not Sparta. >:(
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I grew up near Camp Pendleton (Oceanside,Ca) and have know many Marines, past & present. The first thing 99% of them would do would be to frag all female troopers in a serious online, life or death, combat zone, if given the opportunity. That would be a mercy killing, in some troopers minds.
Reasons is because the females would not have the abilities to keep up with the requirements needed in battle and be a total threat to the other marines around her. Not only getting her self killed but also others in her combat unit. The weakest link, in other words.
A female trooper, if captured, will also be the subject of a brutal gang-bang, even if she is wounded or not. Have been known to go on for days at a time. Which had been the case in Gulf war 1 & 2. Something the U.S. government has tried to keep secret all these years. Common knowledge to the Marines I have listened too.
Sad news is the the Marines are becoming way too PC to be much of a serious force in the future. Thank you Washingon DC and the current White House idiots.
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they can't even do 3 bastardised cross fit kipping pull ups?
They don't allow full kipping pull ups in the Marine Corps. I bet it's only a matter of time.
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;D Well played.
6 good pullups is a LOT for a girl, even a gymnast. Granted, the Marine interpretation of a pull up is less then strict, but still
So are my last 5 chins in every set but I'm counting them anyway. Nothing beats a good neck stretch.
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just shoot dumb people up with steroids and talk them into it,
should be more than enough
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There are exceptions with women. Seen a few do 10 or more chins and even reps doing one arm chins. Of course never with a pack or full equipment a combat soldier has to wear. That's where chinning power is a life or death thing. Or helping a wounded bud up and over something...in a hurry.
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A female trooper, if captured, will also be the subject of a brutal gang-bang, even if she is wounded or not. Have been known to go on for days at a time. Which had been the case in Gulf war 1 & 2. Something the U.S. government has tried to keep secret all these years. Common knowledge to the Marines I have listened too.
They forgot to mention it was their own colleagues who raped them, not the enemy.
'They threatened me with death and raped me': EIGHT female Marines claim gang rape and sex assault at prestigious Washington Marines barracks
Eight former Marines allege that they were raped or sexually assaulted at Marine Barracks in Washington, D.C.
They say there were little or no punishments for their alleged rapists
Some were called 'walking mattresses' and 'sluts' by fellow Marines
Department of Defence said in January there were approximately 19,000 sexual assaults in the military
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2111016/8-female-Marines-claim-gang-rape-sex-assault-Washington-D-C-barracks.html
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I was Company Iron Man.
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http://www.npr.org/2013/12/27/257363943/marines-most-female-recruits-dont-meet-new-pullup-standard?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=nprfacebook&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=facebook
Starting Jan. 1, every woman in the Marines Corps was supposed to meet a new physical standard by performing three pullups. But that has been put off.
The Marine Corps announced it quietly. There was no news conference — just a notice on its social media sites and an item on its own TV show, The Corps Report.
Lance Cpl. Ally Beiswanger explained that the pullup test had been put off until sometime next year, to gather more data and "ensure all female Marines are given the best opportunity to succeed."
So far, female Marines are not succeeding. Fifty-five percent of female recruits tested at the end of boot camp were doing fewer than three pullups; only 1 percent of male recruits failed the test.
The three pullups is already the minimum required for all male Marines. Now the Marine Corps has postponed the plan, and that's raising questions about whether women have the physical strength to handle ground combat, which they'll be allowed to do beginning in 2016.
Marine officers would not talk to NPR on tape. They said they delayed the pullup requirement to avoid losing not only recruits but also current female Marines who can't pass the test.
The Marine Corps has been using it to test upper body strength for men for more than 40 years. And that upper body strength, they say, is necessary to serve in ground combat: to pull yourself out of a canal in Afghanistan, to climb over a mud wall, to carry an ammunition box.
Setting A Tougher Standard
Related NPR stories
Pfc. Katie Gorz (center) served as a squad leader during the training at Camp Geiger, N.C.
National Security
Women Pass Marine Training, Clear First Hurdle To Combat Role
Women in the U.S. military will be integrated into front-line combat units by 2016, the Pentagon says. Here, female Marine recruits stand in formation during pugil stick training in boot camp earlier this year at Parris Island, S.C.
The Two-Way
'Days Of Rambo Are Over': Pentagon Details Women's Move To Combat
Women In Combat: Obstacles Remain As Exclusion Policy Ends
For years, female Marines have had to meet a different standard — an exercise called the "flexed arm hang" (holding one's chin above the pullup bar for at least 15 seconds).
But beginning in 2016, women in the Marine Corps and Army will be allowed to serve in infantry, armor and artillery units. And they'll need to be strong enough to climb those mud walls and carry ammunition.
Robert Maginnis, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, says the delay shows that women just can't meet the same standards.
"Young women, in spite of all the training and all the best intentions, are not going to be the equal of young men in terms of upper body strength," Maginnis says. "You've got to have a lot of upper body strength to lift the stuff. Been there, done that."
Maginnis just wrote a book called Deadly Consequences: How Cowards are Pushing Women into Combat. He says the issue has more to do with politics than protecting the nation.
A Former Marine Says It's Possible
However, Greg Jacob, a former Marine, says women can build the strength they need for pullups, and he has seen it done.
He served as a Marine infantry officer in the Balkans and Africa, and now he works for the Service Women's Action Network, a group that advocates for military women. When he was a Marine trainer in North Carolina, he required his female instructors to knock out pullups just like the guys.
"At first, a lot of women weren't able to do it," Jacob says. "They were able to do one, some were able to do two, but what happened was by having that standard and enforcing that standard, it made my Marines, it made the troops go to the gym and train to that standard."
Within six months, all of the women in his company were doing eight to 12 pullups, he says.
Jacob says the Marine Corps must do a better job of training women to reach the same standard as men. A small number of female Marines already have made it: So far, 13 women have passed advanced combat training. One of the requirements is three pullups.
"It's a squad-sized unit that's ready to go, and they're not sending them to their infantry unit simply because they're women," Jacob says.
Some Marine officers privately say only a handful of Marine women will show interest in combat or be able to pass the course.
Meantime, Corps Report TV anchor Lance Cpl. Ally Beiswanger wants to see if she can get over the first physical hurdle and do those pullups.
She admitted to her audience that she could only do one pullup last year.
"Now I'm up to eight, so I'm taking advantage of the extra time to complete my goal of 12 pullups," she said on the show.
And what about the larger goal of women in ground combat? That's still two years away.
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Most of the fatties in my gym , males, cant do three either.
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Test for any Canadian Police, including RCMP is 10 pullups, 5km run, rescue 80lb. dummy from bottom of a pool.
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Muscle test for Gladiators TV show was 30 pull ups :)
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Aren't these chicks now allowed on the front lines? Who the fukc wants to be on the front lines with a chick who can't do 3 pullups? May as well allow senior citizens in the military...
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Lakers.
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Aren't these chicks now allowed on the front lines? Who the fukc wants to be on the front lines with a chick who can't do 3 pullups? May as well allow senior citizens in the military...
Australian army reserve age limit is to 60, something like 1km running,few push ups every 100m & Styer machine gun can be yours :)
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The Marine corps under Obama
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"ensure all female Marines are given the best opportunity to succeed."
Welcome to the new America, shared mediocrity is the new law of the land.
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I grew up near Camp Pendleton (Oceanside,Ca) and have know many Marines, past & present. The first thing 99% of them would do would be to frag all female troopers in a serious online, life or death, combat zone, if given the opportunity. That would be a mercy killing, in some troopers minds.
Reasons is because the females would not have the abilities to keep up with the requirements needed in battle and be a total threat to the other marines around her. Not only getting her self killed but also others in her combat unit. The weakest link, in other words.
A female trooper, if captured, will also be the subject of a brutal gang-bang, even if she is wounded or not. Have been known to go on for days at a time. Which had been the case in Gulf war 1 & 2. Something the U.S. government has tried to keep secret all these years. Common knowledge to the Marines I have listened too.
Sad news is the the Marines are becoming way too PC to be much of a serious force in the future. Thank you Washingon DC and the current White House idiots.
That can't be true, every single human is completely equal.
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Are these guys natural?
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:D :D :D
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At least they look like they can do more than three pullups. I prefer being covered ;D by a gay guy who is capable over a wannabe butch lesbian who can't lift her own pack.
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they seem to struggle in pain and anguish .. rembrandt like picture
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That can't be true, every single human is completely equal.
Equal in that they are human...which is completely true.
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Equal in that they are human...which is completely true.
That and we're also all completely equal in physical ability and intelligence, gender and race are a social construct. I can be a Girl Scout and Precious can be a US Marine, it's our right as humans.
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:D ;D
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That and we're also all completely equal in physical ability and intelligence, gender and race are a social construct. I can be a Girl Scout and Precious can be a US Marine, it's our right as humans.
::) ::) ::)
;D
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I dont give a damn how many they can do.
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This is what happens with major fire departments and top shelf police departments. Women can't pass the physical test. Everyone claims it's biased against women. Then they lower the standard. The same with the academic test. Minorities fail then they lower the grade needed.
The Marine corps under Obama will eliminate the pull up requirement for women I predict. I know all the liberals want women in combat. They will lower all the requirements and suddenly they will get what they want. A woman Seal to decorate in the white house. Hollywood will make up a half fiction movie about her and the under 45 crowd will think it's actually factual.
Africans (not african american) and Egyptian students in America outperform American students all the time, race has nothing to do with it. Its just culture and opportunity, stop being a troll.
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Africans (not african american) and Egyptian students in America outperform American students all the time, race has nothing to do with it. Its just culture and opportunity, stop being a troll.
Then why are Africans living in mud huts and dying of starvation?
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Africans (not african american) and Egyptian students in America outperform American students all the time, race has nothing to do with it. Its just culture and opportunity, stop being a troll.
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Africans (not african american) and Egyptian students in America outperform American students all the time, race has nothing to do with it. Its just culture and opportunity, stop being a troll.
We've gone through this before. You need to provide some data to back this up.
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I dont give a shit about gender. I'm shocked people cannot do 3 pullups. Shocked.
I'm going to say a big FUCK YOU to this.
I can barely do one.
Doing a pullup is fucking hard for the majority of women. I work out regularly and still can't do three let alone struggle with one....and a shitty one at that.
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I'm going to say a big FUCK YOU to this.
I can barely do one.
Doing a pullup is fucking hard for the majority of women. I work out regularly and still can't do three let alone struggle with one....and a shitty one at that.
women just dont have the upper body strength.. my wife cant do one.
youd be amazed how few people can do even 1 pullup.
the only chicks that can do pullups at our gym are either 'on' or are seriously hard core.
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I could care less if no women could pass the physical.
Male or female they should have the best of the best.
Let's just face the fucking facts.....women are physically inferior to men in most performance related events. Gymnastics is one of the very few where women are on par or superior to men.
In any position where physicality is of the utmost importance, I want THE BEST. If they are protecting my freedom/life/whatever......I want THE BEST. If that is a man, I want a man. If it is a woman, I want a woman. If it is tranny, I want a tranny.
If I'm stuck in a burning building with a baby I don't care what gender rescues me....as long as they get the job done.
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women just dont have the upper body strength.. my wife cant do one.
youd be amazed how few people can do even 1 pullup.
the only chicks that can do pullups at our gym are either 'on' or are seriously hard core.
I honestly find most women don't have strength in general.
When I first started lifting I couldn't squat the 45 pound Olympic bar. My legs were shaking even going down two inches. I needed to use a 30 pound plastic bar to even get 5 squats.
I even actively participated in high school sporting activities.
Most women ARE weak.
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I honestly find most women don't have strength in general.
When I first started lifting I couldn't squat the 45 pound Olympic bar. My legs were shaking even going down two inches. I needed to use a 30 pound plastic bar to even get 5 squats.
I even actively participated in high school sporting activities.
Most women ARE weak.
I am always amazed at how many women can't bench the 45lb bar. I have ROUTINELY seen this over the years.
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My opinion of the Marines, just hit the shits. 3 pull ups...damn that's strong....grrr!! Haha. Especially, when most of those guys weigh 150lbs.
I recall realizing how weak most people were back in 3rd grade PE class. It was always painful watching that fatbody fail in front of the whole class. Talk about setting someone up for low self-esteem in life. Just like the poor reader trying to put words into sentences in English class.
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My opinion of the Marines, just hit the shits. 3 pull ups...damn that's strong....grrr!! Haha. Especially, when most of those guys weigh 150lbs.
I recall realizing how weak most people were back in 3rd grade PE class. It was always painful watching that fatbody fail in front of the whole class. Talk about setting someone up for low self-esteem in life. Just like the poor reader trying to put words into sentences in English class.
Any chance you missed the "female" part of the topic?
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My opinion of the Marines, just hit the shits. 3 pull ups...damn that's strong....grrr!! Haha. Especially, when most of those guys weigh 150lbs.
I recall realizing how weak most people were back in 3rd grade PE class. It was always painful watching that fatbody fail in front of the whole class. Talk about setting someone up for low self-esteem in life. Just like the poor reader trying to put words into sentences in English class.
thats minimum to graduate from boot camp.
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Any chance you missed the "female" part of the topic?
Lmao.
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Any chance you missed the "female" part of the topic?
I didn't realize there were lower standards for women. I thought, a Marine is a Marine. What a contradiction for women's equality. We want to be treated the same, except for materity leave and strength...oh and reaction time. Sounds about right.
Are women allowed in combat? Women in the military...seems very limited. You either take the full responsibility or be a security guard. Political correct crap..hah
I didn't read the original post from the start, I see the "woman requirement" now.
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I didn't realize there were lower standards for women. I thought, a Marine is a Marine. What a contradiction for women's equality. We want to be treated the same, except for materity leave and strength...oh and reaction time. Sounds about right.
Are women allowed in combat? Women in the military...seems very limited. You either take the full responsibility or be a security guard. Political correct crap..hah
no youre corrdct.... 3 is the minimum to graduate from bootcamp for meb. Theyre raising it from dead hangs to 3 oulluos for women.
thats MINIMUM, you get mocked and belittled if you cant do at least 3.
they have to pusb a certain amount of recruits through... period. And jist because a guy cant do a ton of pullups doesnt mean he will be a shitty marine. How many BBs do you know that can do 3 dead hang pullupd?
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I can do 30 perfect pullups
Marines think I'm God
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WTF do you eat che? You are always lean (maybe I am getting old and eating shit)
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I can do 30 perfect pullups
Marines think I'm God
20 is a perfect PFT. Little guys usually can do 50+.
You shoulda been a Marine Che, then you coulda shot at people.
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WTF do you eat che? You are always lean (maybe I am getting old and eating shit)
I eat clean , I work outside 8 hs a day, sometimes 10 hs , constantly moving.
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Younger people today are in terrible shape compared to students in school during the 70's and 80's, I see it every day. Times are different though, too. kids used to kill time playing street ball or just being outside and doing stuff that was physical, not as much any more. I remember Atari and Intelivision and the start of video games way back when, it was kinda cool being a new thing and all that, now it has helped to create a society of wimps.
I talk to recruiters all the time at school and they tell me that if we ever fought a large scale infantry type of war again we would get killed because kids today are sissies, not all of them for sure, but TOO MANY. Our technological edge is what keeps us still top dawg, not so much the "greatest generation" thing anymore- they might be right ?
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I eat clean , I work outside 8 hs a day, sometimes 10 hs , constantly moving.
Im sure the hours of rough gay sex help as well. ;)
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I can do 30 perfect pullups
Marines think I'm God
:P nice
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Pull ups are more about low body weight than strength. The worlds strongest man probably can't do 1 because he is probably over 300lbs.
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20 is a perfect PFT. Little guys usually can do 50+.
You shoulda been a Marine Che, then you coulda shot at people.
I wouldn't last a day , I hate people telling me what to do.
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Pull ups are more about low body weight than strength. The worlds strongest man probably can't do 1 because he is probably over 300lbs.
It has more to do with strength related to size. The Marines emphasize a lean, athletic body over a muscular, bulky body... because they want you to be able to hump large amounts of gear forever, and then be able to run and fight when you get to your destination with little food and next to no sleep.
You never see a huge, ripped grunt. They're always pogs... grunts are almost always average sized and slightly lean. You literally cannot get muscular with the amount of running and humping you do as a grunt.
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Im sure the hours of rough gay sex help as well. ;)
Nah ,I'm done with that shit.
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I can do 30 perfect pullups
Marines think I'm God
After seeing that great arm pic I'm thinking you are a God.
Yum. :P
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Nah ,I'm done with that shit.
Dammit. Here I was looking forward to going all Tbombz with teh che.
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After seeing that great arm pic I'm thinking you are a God.
Yum. :P
Not sure if , hmmmmm
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Dammit. Here I was looking forward to going all Tbombz with teh che.
;D
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I dont like Oprah Winfrey a fat ass that got money from a man.
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The L.A.P.D also has 3 pullups as a requirement for the P.A.T. ~
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I do from 8-12 wide grip pulls for warm up..... I keep my body straight and never swing. Does that count as real pull ups or a modified one
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I do from 8-12 wide grip pulls for warm up..... I keep my body straight and never swing. Does that count as real pull ups or a modified one
Any grip is admissable in the Marine corps. Most do underhand close grip as it's easier to do and you can get more pullups.
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I could care less if no women could pass the physical.
Male or female they should have the best of the best.
Let's just face the fucking facts.....women are physically inferior to men in most performance related events. Gymnastics is one of the very few where women are on par or superior to men.
In any position where physicality is of the utmost importance, I want THE BEST. If they are protecting my freedom/life/whatever......I want THE BEST. If that is a man, I want a man. If it is a woman, I want a woman. If it is tranny, I want a tranny.
If I'm stuck in a burning building with a baby I don't care what gender rescues me....as long as they get the job done.
GOOD POST
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At least they look like they can do more than three pullups. I prefer being covered ;D by a gay guy who is capable over a wannabe butch lesbian who can't lift her own pack.
Agreed. If he wants to swallow sausage when on liberty fine he just better be able to accurately fire his weapon, listen to orders and pull his fucking weight... and the weight of an injured brother.
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