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Title: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 28, 2013, 11:20:25 AM
When one runs hgh in moderate to high doses it's expensive. What if one does NOT compete, why use hgh?
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 11:25:25 AM
When one runs hgh in moderate to high doses it's expensive. What if one does NOT compete, why use hgh?

Anti aging properties. Same reason celebrity men and women use 1-2IUs. Increased bone density which is a huge problem with post menopausal women. Improved immune function, better skin, hair, nails, plus if you do exercise, recovery time is through the roof.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Grape Ape on December 28, 2013, 11:28:02 AM
Guy at work just started getting GHR6 or something like that.  Injected into the stomach.  Anyone familiar with this shit?
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 11:30:57 AM
Guy at work just started getting GHR6 or something like that.  Injected into the stomach.  Anyone familiar with this shit?

It's a peptide hormone meaning you must administer it sub-Q, stomach or leg skin is popular.

Stupid peptide IMO unless you're having trouble getting food down. I've written countless times on ghrp6. It stimulates a massive grehlin release which hits you like a faux super-hypo-glycemic episode. Seriously I felt like I was gonna go Iinto a hypo shock. Had to slam like 300g carbs to stabilize.

IMO there's much better peps out there if the end goal is to raise IGF levels, such as cjc1295, Ipamorelin, or ghrp2.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 11:32:35 AM
Anti aging properties. Same reason celebrity men and women use 1-2IUs. Increased bone density which is a huge problem with post menopausal women. Improved immune function, better skin, hair, nails, plus if you do exercise, recovery time is through the roof.

This^^^^

I am 56...run 3iu pharma ed. skin looks great, never get sick, train 5-6 days a week with no soreness. I think the older you get the more value it has for non competitors. Plus it allows me to use less AAS and get the same effect. Ken
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 28, 2013, 11:33:14 AM
How about eating organic and healthy, moderate exercising, and exercising the mind as well. I heard it has "anti-aging" properties. Instead of injecting synthetic hormones. Just a thought.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 11:34:25 AM
How about eating organic and healthy, moderate exercising, and exercising the mind as well. I heard it has "anti-aging" properties. Instead of injecting synthetic hormones. Just a thought.

What fun is that?
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 11:34:49 AM
How about eating organic and healthy, moderate exercising, and exercising the mind as well. I heard it has "anti-aging" properties. Instead of injecting synthetic hormones. Just a thought.

I believe in this before anything.

But....

It's not debatable that natural hormone production slows as you age; sometimes dramatically, even with exceptional diets.

This is where hormone therapy is most beneficial IMO.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Grape Ape on December 28, 2013, 11:35:33 AM
It's a peptide hormone meaning you must administer it sub-Q, stomach or leg skin is popular.

Stupid peptide IMO unless you're having trouble getting food down. I've written countless times on ghrp6. It stimulates a massive grehlin release which hits you like a faux super-hypo-glycemic episode. Seriously I felt like I was gonna go Iinto a hypo shock. Had to slam like 300g carbs to stabilize.

IMO there's much better peps out there if the end goal is to raise IGF levels, such as cjc1295, Ipamorelin, or ghrp2.

Thanks dude.

It's not just ghrp6, there's something that starts with an "S" sera.....I know - not much to go on.

Either way, he's said he's gained 8 lbs.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 28, 2013, 11:52:31 AM
Good generic gh isn't prohibitively expensive, and gives a physique certain "qualities" that you can't get with aas alone.

Is it worth it?  Well that's subjective...but if you have a good source, most people can afford 5iu everyday
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: MAXX on December 28, 2013, 11:54:43 AM
Anti aging properties. Same reason celebrity men and women use 1-2IUs. Increased bone density which is a huge problem with post menopausal women. Improved immune function, better skin, hair, nails, plus if you do exercise, recovery time is through the roof.
from what I see women who take it look worse
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 11:58:36 AM
from what I see women who take it look worse

A therapeutic dose? Because I've seen stunning results form therapeutic doses in women.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:08:02 PM
A therapeutic dose? Because I've seen stunning results form therapeutic doses in women.

Same here
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 12:08:56 PM
Same here

It's called the Mirace Drug for a reason  8)
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Dago_Joe on December 28, 2013, 12:09:16 PM
It is worth every penny if you can afford all the pennies it takes to pay for it.  It really comes down to finances.  If you can afford it, use it.  If you are broke, then spend what little you can on testo.  If you are looking for dramatic effects, GH on its own aint gonna cut it.  Testo will.  1 grm of testo will be a fractionof what GH cost and has a major effect.  Combining the two is where you will notice a synergistic effect.  IT really is true.
 
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 12:11:23 PM
Thanks dude.

It's not just ghrp6, there's something that starts with an "S" sera.....I know - not much to go on.

Either way, he's said he's gained 8 lbs.

Serostim  :o

Supposed to be "the best" real GH
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:12:38 PM
Serostim
18 i.u. per day
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:13:30 PM
Serostim  :o

Supposed to be "the best" real GH

That's what I have been running for the last six months and so has my wife. Again 56 and 55 but look the best I ever have. Just got some Humatrope going to try that but 3-4iu seros a day on training days for me and my wife 1iu ed.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:14:34 PM
Serostim
18 i.u. per day

a vial a day? your hands must have no feeling at all!
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 12:15:53 PM
Serostim
18 i.u. per day

AIDS patient dosage
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:17:43 PM
AIDS patient dosage

Yea I know that's how I get it. I like GH and he likes Ecstasy.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:19:03 PM
  I do not take that. I am saying that is what the people who I get the kits from use. I get kits for 200
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:20:38 PM
  I do not take that. I am saying that is what the people who I get the kits from use. I get kits for 200

$200? God Bless you My Son.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:20:57 PM
I did do a cycle back in 2000. I did take the 18 i.u. per day for one year. It was great, but like he said... your hands and feet hurt (turgor)
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 12:22:31 PM
I did do a cycle back in 2000. I did take the 18 i.u. per day for one year. It was great, but like he said... your hands and feet hurt (turgor)

18IU of Pharm grade?! That's a hefty dose bro
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:22:46 PM
 I only did it because I was able to afford it. I get 30 kits per month. 200 per kit.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:23:48 PM
I only did it because I was able to afford it. I get 30 kits per month. 200 per kit.

You want to be my friend?
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 12:24:46 PM
You want to be my friend?

I also would like to be friends.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:25:09 PM
  The 30 I get are always spoken for though. Some very famous people. This is why I know who does what in L.A. If I know they get their HGH directly from me, then I know for sure that they use PED.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:26:15 PM
It was worth a try eh Chiro? you must have some good stories Marine.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:27:07 PM
  The 30 people, pay the 6,000 that I need to pay to get them. Then I only make a small amount after that. I really do it for the people, as opposed to how much I get for going through all of the hassle.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:28:47 PM
  I only get 20 per kit. So that is only 600. Like I said... it is more for the people.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: galeniko on December 28, 2013, 12:29:09 PM
depends on the moey.

if one can easy afford it and gets legit gear, why not

if one has to pay last penny for the kit, rather not so good idea
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 28, 2013, 12:29:48 PM
How do you get legit stuff at such a low price? That is great price to say the least.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:30:49 PM
You are alright Arce...mine is NYC. Chelsea. Ken
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: BigRo on December 28, 2013, 12:33:13 PM
I cant afford it.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:33:56 PM
  I know people that have HIV/AIDS. These people barely have money to live on. They each get four kits per month (on the USA tab, I know)   they can use all four, or sell all four. Not legal to sell them, but they take the risk. So a person sells me two kits for 400, and keeps the other two to use. They get 400 more to live on, and I am able to help out the people that I know. I am not greedy, trying to get 400 for a kit, and double my money. I sell it directly to the person who fronted me the 400... and keep 40 for my troubles...


not a big deal really
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 28, 2013, 12:35:01 PM
cool stuff, really
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:36:24 PM
hey, I get 600   so I am not trying to complain at all



some people get pension, social security, etc, and only get 1,000
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 12:41:21 PM
I cant afford it.

There's dudes here who swear up and down you're on 6-8IU pharm grade, easily.

Personally, I could care less either way, and I believe you could be NOT using it, but what do you say to the doubters?
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:44:24 PM
  I am not joking. Cswol knows. He was there. I would have 1,000 kits in my den in 2000. MMA was NHB back then... and MOST of NHB used my kits... With that much, I was able to afford to do four kits per month for me.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:45:23 PM
 Big Ro looks like he easily uses that much HGH.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: 38-26-40 on December 28, 2013, 12:52:42 PM
I believe in this before anything.

But....

It's not debatable that natural hormone production slows as you age; sometimes dramatically, even with exceptional diets.

This is where hormone therapy is most beneficial IMO.

After doing it the natural way, at what age do you think a woman should take it? At what age does it really start to decrease?
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: MAXX on December 28, 2013, 12:54:07 PM
 I know people that have HIV/AIDS. These people barely have money to live on. They each get four kits per month (on the USA tab, I know)   they can use all four, or sell all four. Not legal to sell them, but they take the risk. So a person sells me two kits for 400, and keeps the other two to use. They get 400 more to live on, and I am able to help out the people that I know. I am not greedy, trying to get 400 for a kit, and double my money. I sell it directly to the person who fronted me the 400... and keep 40 for my troubles...


not a big deal really
tbombz has aids you should contact him
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:55:12 PM
After doing it the natural way, at what age do you think a woman should take it? At what age does it really start to decrease?

I would say 40. Starts to decrease before that I believe. Chiro?
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:56:04 PM
  I would say 30 is good for a female

  I would say 30 is good for a male



  30 is when you start to get old


  that is just me though


  I turn 44 on the 18th


  what say all of you other old people?
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: MAXX on December 28, 2013, 12:56:19 PM
arce what celebs and mma fighters have you sold to? in4pm
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 12:58:49 PM
  I do not say. I will say this though... I will tell you about the lying ass people that begged me... like Mario Lopez... I know for a fact he uses, because he begged me for HGH in 1998.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: 38-26-40 on December 28, 2013, 12:59:48 PM
I would say 40. Starts to decrease before that I believe. Chiro?

I'm 28 and already notice it's harder to lose weight now than it was when I was 25. I'm tempted to use it since I hear everyone say they lose weight on it.

Maybe I'm just more lazy lol  :-\
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 01:03:09 PM
 38, it starts to slow down for all of us. I say one should start using at age 30. You can still get away with it in your 20's. So hold out two more years. Like I tell the young ones... wait until you turn 21 to use PED. Let the body finish growing. 21-29 PED for sports. 30 and over... PED for anti aging and high quality of life... if you want to wait until 40, like wez said... that is cool too... I just feel, personally... that 30 is the time to start for anti aging purposes...



Happy New Year
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
After doing it the natural way, at what age do you think a woman should take it? At what age does it really start to decrease?

I am NOT a endocrinologist. But the best way to decide is to get bloodwork and check your IGF levels. If they are below what a healthy young adult should be at, I'd say youre a prime candidate for HRT to optimize your levels. This rule of thumb can and should be used for ANY medical decision. Get your bloodwork done people! I want to be in the supra physiological range for IGF and free test, so HRT is a very good thing IMO.

Anecdotally, I like what the ofher posters are recommending, between age 35-40.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 28, 2013, 01:05:46 PM
38, it starts to slow down for all of us. I say one should start using at age 30. You can still get away with it in your 20's. So hold out two more years. Like I tell the young ones... wait until you turn 21 to use PED. Let the body finish growing. 21-29 PED for sports. 30 and over... PED for anti aging and high quality of life... if you want to wait until 40, like wez said... that is cool too... I just feel, personally... that 30 is the time to start for anti aging purposes...



Happy New Year
I am 38 .. yes, it is not 30 and 30 is not 25 etc  ;D

The body is just not what it used to be
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: 38-26-40 on December 28, 2013, 01:05:58 PM
Thanks boys!

Happy New Year Steve!
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 01:07:19 PM
I am NOT a endocrinologist. But the best way to decide is to get bloodwork and check your IGF levels. If they are below what a healthy young adult should be at, I'd say youre a prime candidate for HRT to optimize your levels. This rule of thumb can and should be used for ANY medical decision. Get your bloodwork done people! I want to be in the supra physiological range for IGF and free test, so HRT is a very good thing IMO.

Anecdotally, I like what the ofher posters are recommending, between age 35-40.

That's the thing if you have naturally high IGF levels you may not see much from GH especially when younger. But if your IGF levels are low you will see a tremendous difference. Now if you are an old geezer like me you can be pretty sure your levels are low. Ken
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 01:09:12 PM
That's the thing if you have naturally high IGF levels you may not see much from GH especially when younger. But if your IGF levels are low you will see a tremendous difference. Now if you are an old geezer like me you can be pretty sure your levels are low. Ken

Yes exactly. And I see no reason to fuck with someone's already healthy, high levels.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 01:10:00 PM
Quote
If they are below what a healthy young adult should be at, I'd say youre a prime candidate for HRT to optimize your levels. This rule of thumb can and should be used for ANY medical decision.

^
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: BigRo on December 28, 2013, 01:40:46 PM
There's dudes here who swear up and down you're on 6-8IU pharm grade, easily.

Personally, I could care less either way, and I believe you could be NOT using it, but what do you say to the doubters?

I wish I was doing 6-8 iu of pharma! Really though I have nothing to gain on the level of self worth to not be honest about what I use. I have a deeper sense of who I am to do that.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 28, 2013, 01:45:47 PM
I wish I was doing 6-8 iu of pharma! Really though I have nothing to gain on the level of self worth to not be honest about what I use. I have a deeper sense of who I am to do that.

Yeah...I believe you bro. You're a straight shooter about everything else. Cheers.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 01:48:58 PM
  I agree. Congrats Big Ro. Happy New Year.
Title: Re: GH use, is it worth the price?
Post by: arce1988 on December 28, 2013, 01:51:42 PM
 Happy New Year 38!