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Title: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Darren Avey on January 02, 2014, 11:01:13 AM
In 2005, LeBanner told Tyson he could eat his size 12 foot to go with his love of ears, Tyson said fuck fighting this monster and pulled out of the deal with Sapp, etc.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Rascal full on January 02, 2014, 02:07:48 PM
Yeah I read this in his book and was surprised. Tyson comes over surprisingly humble in parts but does go on to say that had he still been in love with boxing he would have kicked Lennox Lewis's ass.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: nasht5 on January 02, 2014, 02:12:02 PM
when tyson was with cus, tyson was an animal. after cus died tyson lost that person he respected enough to listen too and that allowed in don king who created a riff with tyson and his other long time trainer who was with him and cus.

tyson lost love for the fight game and the rest is history. tyson would have beaten the shit out of every heavyweight fighter who faced him... even today's crop of shitty no names.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: gee38 on January 02, 2014, 02:12:31 PM
have read the book - just finished it in fact

brief summary


lad born in ghetto to bad family
get locked up
boxes- this is the good stuff

then we have stage 2
gets money
gets coked up
bangs women
blames everyone else
looks for sympathy
go back to start of stage 2 and repeat to fade


Lewis would have beaten tyson anytime. a much bigger guy who wouldn't be bullied by mike. and mike won so many fights before he go to the ring. and when they wouldn't be bullied he had a range of excuses-butting, didn't try, was high, not interested etc etc

I read it with a combination of pity and apathy. but no sympathy. he made the same mistake time after time and had no morals whatsoever. and still looks for pity and money off anyone stupid enough to get involved.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: gee38 on January 02, 2014, 02:13:24 PM
'would of'

doesn't matter

he either did or didn't. and his record really doesn't stand up that well at all.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Rascal full on January 02, 2014, 02:27:27 PM
Lewis would have beaten tyson anytime. a much bigger guy who wouldn't be bullied by mike. and mike won so many fights before he go to the ring. and when they wouldn't be bullied he had a range of excuses-butting, didn't try, was high, not interested etc etc

No way. Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson both aged anywhere from 19-25 and Lewis would have got splattered. Tyson made so much money so young and made it look so easy he didn't train properly for any fight after Cus died. Lewis beat a washed up, fat, out of shape drug addict Tyson who had been spending his 'training camp' smoking weed, drinking and fucking anything with a pulse. It still took him eight rounds to finish him off...
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: gee38 on January 02, 2014, 02:33:25 PM
I have to respectfully disagree

you can only fight what is in front of you

Tyson was a spent force once they put him in with people in good shape with heart. holyfield bullied tyson- thats why tyson went for a way out

tyson couldn't put bone crusher away

Lewis for me every time. or it becomes a series of 'what ifs'. the only what that matter is 'what happened when they fought'. and tyson got his arse handed to him. I can't see any other outcome. Once Rooney stopped training him he was doomed. but it was a doom of his own making.

Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 02, 2014, 02:36:58 PM
Lebanner was a fucking animal in his prime..



Labanner with a solid ground game would clean out the UFC, in his prime..

"1"
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: anabolichalo on January 02, 2014, 02:38:41 PM
one punch to the jaw and lebanner would be in the cemetary
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: nasht5 on January 02, 2014, 02:38:51 PM
tyson was already on the downward spiral before japan and buster douglas. go back a few years before japan and see how tyson was no longer using the peak a bow double fisted sledge hammer high/low combination style that made mike iron mike. he was a head hunter for a few years before japan.

tyson prime would knock out lennox prime within 3rds. i've followed boxing - actually watched it since when larry holmes was champ. I don't know about Ali, but everyone since Ali - prime tyson could beat.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: LiftEaTsLeEpRePeAt on January 02, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
I have to respectfully disagree

you can only fight what is in front of you

Tyson was a spent force once they put him in with people in good shape with heart. holyfield bullied tyson- thats why tyson went for a way out

tyson couldn't put bone crusher away

Lewis for me every time. or it becomes a series of 'what ifs'. the only what that matter is 'what happened when they fought'. and tyson got his arse handed to him. I can't see any other outcome. Once Rooney stopped training him he was doomed. but it was a doom of his own making.


mikes knock outy power was second to none..  However he gassed easily and was not nearly the caliber athlete of LL     I know LL personally and think he is an ass  so I say this while eating crow
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: nasht5 on January 02, 2014, 02:41:55 PM
I have to respectfully disagree

you can only fight what is in front of you

Tyson was a spent force once they put him in with people in good shape with heart. holyfield bullied tyson- thats why tyson went for a way out

tyson couldn't put bone crusher away

Lewis for me every time. or it becomes a series of 'what ifs'. the only what that matter is 'what happened when they fought'. and tyson got his arse handed to him. I can't see any other outcome. Once Rooney stopped training him he was doomed. but it was a doom of his own making.



Prime ali woulda beat holmes but by your standard your saying holmes was a better boxer than ali..... on that day yes but not in their prime.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: polychronopolous on January 02, 2014, 02:45:15 PM
have read the book - just finished it in fact

brief summary


lad born in ghetto to bad family
get locked up
boxes- this is the good stuff

then we have stage 2
gets money
gets coked up
bangs women
blames everyone else
looks for sympathy
go back to start of stage 2 and repeat to fade


Lewis would have beaten tyson anytime. a much bigger guy who wouldn't be bullied by mike. and mike won so many fights before he go to the ring. and when they wouldn't be bullied he had a range of excuses-butting, didn't try, was high, not interested etc etc

I read it with a combination of pity and apathy. but no sympathy. he made the same mistake time after time and had no morals whatsoever. and still looks for pity and money off anyone stupid enough to get involved.

X2

I would take prime for prime Lewis over Tyson.

Too big and too talented for Mike.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Marty Champions on January 02, 2014, 02:52:58 PM
no tall man would be a prime tyson within 3 rounds you have to let it go the distance

dumbass tyson is an early fight killer, hes too hard to hit when he has all his stamina and tysons offense early on means back the fuck up

lennox would win in 5-8 rounds
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: gee38 on January 02, 2014, 02:57:21 PM
name me anyone tyson demolished who wasn't a tomato can. post douglas.

nobody.

lewis is a superior athlete, superior boxer and a much bigger man. tyson would not get near him.

an inshape holmes would have took tyson apart.

foreman would have bullied him too

he avoided Bowe, avoided Lewis until it had to happen and admitted he would never get in with foreman- tyson the myth would beat godzilla, tyson the reality couldn't beat danny williams
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: The True Adonis on January 02, 2014, 03:03:02 PM
no tall man would be a prime tyson within 3 rounds you have to let it go the distance

dumbass tyson is an early fight killer, hes too hard to hit when he has all his stamina and tysons offense early on means back the fuck up

lennox would win in 5-8 rounds
I also think both Klitschkos would have destroyed a prime Tyson, especially Vitali.  No way Tyson could get inside with Vitali.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Darren Avey on January 02, 2014, 03:08:25 PM
So we all agree Lebanner kills him
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: anabolichalo on January 02, 2014, 03:08:53 PM
So we all agree Lebanner kills him
unless he gets hit in the chin
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: nasht5 on January 02, 2014, 03:11:58 PM
how old are you guys?

first, holmes was never in shape. we are talking about fghters in their prime not mythilogcal conditioning, lol.

tyson was already a bum a few years before the douglas fight

and the kletcho brothers S U C K, both of'em S U C K.

A prime ALI and a prime lewis both with their excellent boxing skills and JAB would absolutely give a prime tyson difficulty getting inside to throw his combinations. you say lewis i say tyson but i would absolutely love to see it happen. we'd all be watching a historical fight for the ages.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 02, 2014, 03:28:13 PM
are you kidding me?

prime lewis a match for prime tyson?

prime lewis was @ best , slow hands and feet, tyson would easily slip his jab and counterpunch him to death
what with lennox's weak chin
its tyson by early KO

prime tyson was a defensive wizard , very hard to hit clean with great head movement, foot speed, bobo= weave and killer hand speed AND with KO power in either hand
if tyson hadnt split with rooney and got fucked over by don king, tyson would have been the greatest ever heavywegiht
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: GraniteCityDon on January 02, 2014, 03:29:56 PM
I think a prime Tyson, at his very best destroys Le Banner at his very best. Its all a matter of personal preference and just because we dont agree with an opinion doesnt mean it is wrong, because we will never have an opportunity to find out the truth.

OMR made an interesting statement about Le Banner dominating the UFC with a solid ground game, i dont think he would have unless he was fighting McGee, Sylvia, Sims, Hinkle etc (the old school bums and not todays elite). Andy Hug however would have smashed alsmot every 205 fighter to ever step in the Octagon with said ground game. Once again just my opinion, but he was outrageously talented.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Quickerblade on January 02, 2014, 03:35:09 PM
name me anyone tyson demolished who wasn't a tomato can. post douglas.

nobody.

lewis is a superior athlete, superior boxer and a much bigger man. tyson would not get near him.

an inshape holmes would have took tyson apart.

foreman would have bullied him too

he avoided Bowe, avoided Lewis until it had to happen and admitted he would never get in with foreman- tyson the myth would beat godzilla, tyson the reality couldn't beat danny williams
Happy new year Sir, you have been saying what i have been telling people for years. Tyson looked amazing against bums.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Sam on January 02, 2014, 06:11:16 PM
Tyson, even in his prime had problems with big men who could jab..Styles make fights and in my mind at least Lewis would have been too fast, big and strong for Tyson. Lewis' jab is one of the greatest ever and for tyson to get inside and do his work he would have taken too much leather from that jab.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: hardgainerj on January 02, 2014, 06:15:59 PM
one punch to the jaw and lebanner would be in the cemetary
thats why he couldnt make it in boxing
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Pray_4_War on January 02, 2014, 06:34:24 PM
Prime Tyson would have eaten Lennox Lewis up and shat him out.  I'm confident of that.  I've also watched boxing for many years and in my eyes Lennox Lewis was nothing special.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: JediTerminator on January 02, 2014, 06:41:32 PM
one punch to the jaw and lebanner would be in the cemetary

i'm actually laughing at how good that one punch and you would be in the cemetery like will be next time I wanna threaten someone
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Slapper on January 02, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
You know, I'm sick and tired of all these opportunistic shithead fighters who develop the guts to call someone out when the other guy is on the way out.

Michael Tyson, at his best, namely from 1986-1990, would've beaten everyone. Ali, Foreman, Frazier, all of them.

Anyone who grew up watching his fights and seeing the way he intimidated guys 1-1½ feet taller than him was legendary. He was like Bruce Lee in that regard.

I tell you something, USA boxing would be winning a lot more gold medals at the Olympics if they hired him as a mentor or a coach.

Mike is and will always be an American icon. IMHO bigger than Ali.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: wild willie on January 02, 2014, 07:11:59 PM
In 2005, LeBanner told Tyson he could eat his size 12 foot to go with his love of ears, Tyson said fuck fighting this monster and pulled out of the deal with Sapp, etc.
PISS OFF....TYSON IN HIS PRIME WAS TOUGHER THAN NAILS......HE IS DONE FIGHTING NOW......LEBANNER IS JUST ANOTHER TOUGH TALKER.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: wild willie on January 02, 2014, 07:12:36 PM
You know, I'm sick and tired of all these opportunistic shithead fighters who develop the guts to call someone out when the other guy is on the way out.

Michael Tyson, at his best, namely from 1986-1990, would've beaten everyone. Ali, Foreman, Frazier, all of them.

Anyone who grew up watching his fights and seeing the way he intimidated guys 1-1½ feet taller than him was legendary. He was like Bruce Lee in that regard.

I tell you something, USA boxing would be winning a lot more gold medals at the Olympics if they hired him as a mentor or a coach.

Mike is and will always be an American icon. IMHO bigger than Ali.
VERY EXCELLENT POST!!!!
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Ropo on January 03, 2014, 12:07:07 AM
You know, I'm sick and tired of all these opportunistic shithead fighters who develop the guts to call someone out when the other guy is on the way out.

Michael Tyson, at his best, namely from 1986-1990, would've beaten everyone. Ali, Foreman, Frazier, all of them.

Anyone who grew up watching his fights and seeing the way he intimidated guys 1-1½ feet taller than him was legendary. He was like Bruce Lee in that regard.

I tell you something, USA boxing would be winning a lot more gold medals at the Olympics if they hired him as a mentor or a coach.

Mike is and will always be an American icon. IMHO bigger than Ali.

Tyson, hitting machine filled with cocaine, is bigger than Ali? Ali was a perfect fighter, outstanding technique, footwork and stamina combined to one man in the way, we have never seen since. What Tyson had? Short and stiff neck, speed and heavy punches. He was capable to throw insane storm of heavy punches, that's all.  That was his technique, all he had. What he would be able to teach as a coach? Hit, and hit hard, and they fall. Repeat as long as needed. Nothing more.  ;D  
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 03, 2014, 12:11:16 AM
Tyson is actually one of the few Heboes i respect

Not for his intellect or demeanor but his way of fighting, and fighting skills.

A Prime-Tyson was very entertaining to watch fight in the ring.

I value him much higher than Ali or Lennox

Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Darren Avey on January 03, 2014, 02:29:11 AM
Lennox Lewis is so overrated its actually sick. He beat NO ONE! What? A 12 years past it, coked up Tyson, a shot Holyfield he drew with and most feel he lost the rematch. Ray Mercer beat him IMO and Mercer was decent at best. He got destroyed by bums Rahman and McCall. Very dodgy stamina. Chin. ATG my ass.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Darren Avey on January 03, 2014, 02:29:48 AM
ANd a green Klitschko beat the shit out of him before Lewis got a lucky with the cut.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: GraniteCityDon on January 03, 2014, 04:46:50 AM
Lennox wasnt overrated IMO, he stands as one of the greatest HW fighters of all time and certainly amongst the cream of his generation. The only time i saw him dominated was against Bruno, who many forget was actually amongst the best of his day and ranked as potentially the hardest hitter in the game at that time. 1 punch changed that fight.

Akinwande was touted for big things and bottled it when he realised he couldnt beat him, a prime Briggs was taken apart, the initial draw with Holyfield was a landslide victory for Lewis in the eyes of everyone but the judges and he took David Tua apart like nobody had ever dreamed. Tua was an killer back then that was expected to smash everyone he stood opposite.

He fought Vitali at nearly 38 years of age, was starting to win the fight and would have likely stopped him sooner rather than later. He was done after that.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: CalvinH on January 03, 2014, 05:09:40 AM
Would of, could of, should of ::)
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Darren Avey on January 03, 2014, 05:11:25 AM
He ducked Bowe, he should have made the fight, turned up at Bowes house, called his mother, anything to get him in the ring but he had no heart
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Slapper on January 03, 2014, 05:12:04 AM
Tyson, hitting machine filled with cocaine, is bigger than Ali? Ali was a perfect fighter, outstanding technique, footwork and stamina combined to one man in the way, we have never seen since. What Tyson had? Short and stiff neck, speed and heavy punches. He was capable to throw insane storm of heavy punches, that's all.  That was his technique, all he had. What he would be able to teach as a coach? Hit, and hit hard, and they fall. Repeat as long as needed. Nothing more.  ;D  

That's not "all he had", that was all he needed. There's a difference.

There's more to boxing than throwing "calculated" punches, floating like a ballerina or having the stamina of a marathon runner.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: T-REX007 on January 03, 2014, 09:22:19 AM
Tyson in his prime would have been beaten in the 70's and before- Foreman, prime Holmes, Ali, Liston, possibly Frazier because of his heart, Shavers,Jimmy Young all give Tyson a tough fight

 I think Marciano puts Tyson away too, yeah I know he was small,easy to hit,cut easy... but he had HEART and was CONDITIONED like no one.

I think Joe Louis wrecks Tyson - big, accurate, maybe the best combo puncher ever
I think Dempsey gets Mike early
Tunney gives Tyson a long night
Teofilio Stevenson the great Cuban fighter gives Tyson nightmares too

Tyson was great no doubt, but he was not the MONSTER a lot of people like to think he was - in my opinion :)
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Ropo on January 03, 2014, 09:27:59 AM
That's not "all he had", that was all he needed. There's a difference.

There's more to boxing than throwing "calculated" punches, floating like a ballerina or having the stamina of a marathon runner.

Opinion of the fan boy. In real world Ali has better record, and Olympic gold medal. And if you look opponents of these two, Ali kick shit out of many world toughest fighters. In Tyson era, who were his toughest opponent? If you look that bunch of ass wipes he beat up, you find many guys who has won only one fight in their entire career, and lost 20 fights, one to Tyson. In his records, first ten opponents has lost more fights than win in their career. Weakest opponent of Ali has record of 9 loss and 15 wins before Ali. This of course isn't Tysons fault, more like the trend which is used also in these days. You build a reputation by beating bums, and by that miracle, you are superstar and champion  ;D
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 03, 2014, 09:30:17 AM
Lebanner was a fucking animal in his prime..



Labanner with a solid ground game would clean out the UFC, in his prime..

"1"

Labanner is good shit, a little pita bread and some olives.  That is great.  Had it often when I did a 3 month trip in Beirut.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Rascal full on January 03, 2014, 09:32:08 AM
i'm actually laughing at how good that one punch and you would be in the cemetery like will be next time I wanna threaten someone

Get this one that some fat bully c/unt used on me about five years ago. I never forgot it. He showed me his left fist and said 'If I hit you with this you will go to the hospital'....intimidating look before holding up his right fist....'But if I hit you with this one you will be going to the morgue'.....He was a good actor I'll give him that!
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: JediTerminator on January 03, 2014, 09:44:21 AM
Get this one that some fat bully c/unt used on me about five years ago. I never forgot it. He showed me his left fist and said 'If I hit you with this you will go to the hospital'....intimidating look before holding up his right fist....'But if I hit you with this one you will be going to the morgue'.....He was a good actor I'll give him that!

that's a good one too. I read that picturing Bruce Willis saying it with his dry humor.

next time a little twerp in my neighborhood tries to cut through my property again (live on a corner, some people cut through my back end property) i'm gonna throw out these lines.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Sam on January 03, 2014, 09:52:23 AM
He ducked Bowe, he should have made the fight, turned up at Bowes house, called his mother, anything to get him in the ring but he had no heart

HAHAHA - Lewis ducked Bowe? You smoking crack? ..Bowe was scared of Lewis and did not want any part of him - even threw the belt in the bin rather than fight him. If you dont rate Lewis then fine, but history proves you wrong. Lewis was the finest heavyweight of his generation and pretty much beat everyone infront of him. Granted sometimes he could be a bit lazy in the right but dont underestimate his talent..
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: CalvinH on January 03, 2014, 10:13:35 AM
Who knows who would have won between Ali and Tyson but how much would Ali really get in his head.
Tyson in his own way got in his opponents head and don't forget that if he had Cus Damato in his corner and Cus always had him psychologically where he needed to be for a fight.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: GraniteCityDon on January 03, 2014, 10:16:16 AM
HAHAHA - Lewis ducked Bowe? You smoking crack? ..Bowe was scared of Lewis and did not want any part of him - even threw the belt in the bin rather than fight him. If you dont rate Lewis then fine, but history proves you wrong. Lewis was the finest heavyweight of his generation and pretty much beat everyone infront of him. Granted sometimes he could be a bit lazy in the right but dont underestimate his talent..

Forgive him, he only knows the most obscure of Google's search results.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Rascal full on January 03, 2014, 10:19:15 AM
I think Ali would have beaten Tyson. Mike is my fav all time fighter but I don't see him beating Muhammed over 15 rounds. Ali had too many advantages on his side but it would have been a hell of a fight. If they had 5 fights I see Ali winning 3 and Tyson 2. I just give him a little edge.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 03, 2014, 10:21:32 AM
What's your take che? Vs Lebanner, vs the other great heavies?
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: polychronopolous on January 03, 2014, 10:37:13 AM
Tyson in his prime would have been beaten in the 70's and before- Foreman, prime Holmes, Ali, Liston, possibly Frazier because of his heart, Shavers,Jimmy Young all give Tyson a tough fight

 I think Marciano puts Tyson away too, yeah I know he was small,easy to hit,cut easy... but he had HEART and was CONDITIONED like no one.

I think Joe Louis wrecks Tyson - big, accurate, maybe the best combo puncher ever
I think Dempsey gets Mike early
Tunney gives Tyson a long night
Teofilio Stevenson the great Cuban fighter gives Tyson nightmares too

Tyson was great no doubt, but he was not the MONSTER a lot of people like to think he was - in my opinion :)

A prime John L Sullivan gives Tyson all he wants as well over a 75 round bare knuckler.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Voice of Doom on January 03, 2014, 12:57:42 PM
Tyson vs Frazier is the more interesting fight.  That outcome would determine how Tyson would have done against Ali and others.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: che on January 03, 2014, 01:03:16 PM
 Mike Tyson was making $30 mill a fight , why the fuck he would fight someone nobody knows for peanuts  ???
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: BB on January 03, 2014, 01:04:47 PM
Tyson vs Frazier is the more interesting fight.  That outcome would determine how Tyson would have done against Ali and others.

Tyson / Foreman is my dream fight from the last few decades. Man, I'dve loved to see that.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: che on January 03, 2014, 01:13:21 PM
Tyson vs Frazier is the more interesting fight.  That outcome would determine how Tyson would have done against Ali and others.

Tyson is the faster ,stronger  and more technical version of Frazier.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: temple_of_dis on January 03, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
tyson shoulda invested his cash better

:)

got vasectomy earlier
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: gee38 on January 03, 2014, 01:31:53 PM
but tyson did not have fraziers chin or heart.

tyson was exciting but whenever anyone stood up to him and wasn't intimidated he had no plan B


thats why foreman would have killed him

tyson admitted he would never have got in the ring with foreman as he scared him
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: che on January 03, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
but tyson did not have fraziers chin or heart.

tyson was exciting but whenever anyone stood up to him and wasn't intimidated he had no plan B


thats why foreman would have killed him

tyson admitted he would never have got in the ring with foreman as he scared him
::)
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: johnny1 on January 03, 2014, 05:16:18 PM
but tyson did not have fraziers chin or heart.

tyson was exciting but whenever anyone stood up to him and wasn't intimidated he had no plan B


thats why foreman would have killed him

tyson admitted he would never have got in the ring with foreman as he scared him
You are right about the heart part il give you that then again who had more heart than a Joe frazier, but make no mistake his chin wasnt a Problem, the uppercutt Tony tucker in Particular hit him with (lifting tyson off his feet and stopping him in his tracks) didnt faze him 1 little bit, as did None of the Bombs a then Prime Razor Ruddock landed on Tyson again...and again...and again as was the 10 rounds of boobs Buster and Holyfeild bashed him with, as for Foreman....well like anything it could be looked at 2 ways, if a Prime George Foreman landed his Hardest bombs on Tyson....of course he would more than likey stop tyson, however imo...that would be a Post 1990 Mike Tyson...and thats a maybe...if we are talking a Prime Mike Tyson imo not likey, mainly for 2 Reasons...1...George had Terrible defence in his Prime years and for every huge punch George would throw he would get back 2 or 3 in Rapid fire from Tyson, Tyson would have no problem hitting George, 2...George would find a 1986-89 Mike ALOT harder too hit than Joe Frazier, and for every punch that would miss....Tyson would again be firing back with everything on them, imo.

 i think the guy a Prime Tyson would have the BIGGEST problem with...would be a Prime 29-30 yr old LARRY HOLMES....mainly because he had @ his Best a Tighter Defence than Ali, had a Better right hand, had a Chin and Heart as good as Ali and had the smarts and ring craft too fuck with a Prime Tysons head...i rate Holmes over Ali against a Prime Tyson for 1 factor and 1 only....Defence....somet hing imo....Tyson would catch Ali out with... Maybe....as for Foreman i dont think he would have a Issue with... due too geogre coming straight @ him and his Poor defence...again Tyson never had the great Joe Fraziers heart and Determination no argument there, however he had a Better, faster, hand-speed, foot-speed, defence, harder right hand...Uppercutts...body shots...hooks 50/50 ether way, good chin etc etc

all these are just opinions @ the end of the day something we will all never agree on with anyway, im like most others here i grew up in Tysons era so naturally there will always be a slight bias towards Tyson most of us recalling watching his fights as they happened then, however too be real people saying Mike was Over rated really need too look alittle closer @ a prime version, for his time there had Never been ANYONE with his Combination of Handspeed, footspeed, head movement, Power with BOTH hands, defence...COMBINED... for a Heavyweight...that alone imo would of made him Dangerous for any Heavyweight in History...yes he fought Tomato cans....so did Foreman...so did Louis....so did Ali...so did Lewis....so did Frazier...so did Holmes....so did Marciano...in fact they ALL DID in their respective eras. the debate here isnt that Mike was the greatest of all time (the fact that he didnt come though his BIGGEST hurdles against Douglas, Holyfeild, Lewis etc) will ensure he will always be out of the Top spots, however make no Mistake @ his absolute best Tyson was Incredible like him, or hate him there was no one like him.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 03, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
Mike Bison

(http://fightingstreet.com/folders/variousinfofolder/ripofffolder/ripoff_pics/mbisonmtyson03.jpg)
(http://www.writeups.org/img/inset/Mike_Bison_SF_h2.jpg)
(http://writeups.org/img/fiche/4914b.jpg)

Afraid of being sued by Don King at the time

He was namechanged to

Balrog

(http://minutillo.com/steve/sf2/balrog.jpg)
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Quickerblade on January 03, 2014, 06:57:17 PM
Prime Tyson fought 99% tomato cans. His prime was limited, by 24-25 he was finished. Sorry he is overrated.
Watch the Tyson hightlight reels all over YouTube, all those amazing hooks and up cuts were against fighters nobody knows.
Tyson did fuck up frank Bruno. Bruno was doing the sign of the cross every 5 seconds before the fight started.
I never saw a Ali fight. I can't stand him anyhow.
Tyson was worldwide though, he let pussy and black people ruin his career.
Even Michael Jordan had white advisors.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Slapper on January 03, 2014, 07:49:54 PM
Opinion of the fan boy. In real world Ali has better record, and Olympic gold medal. And if you look opponents of these two, Ali kick shit out of many world toughest fighters. In Tyson era, who were his toughest opponent? If you look that bunch of ass wipes he beat up, you find many guys who has won only one fight in their entire career, and lost 20 fights, one to Tyson. In his records, first ten opponents has lost more fights than win in their career. Weakest opponent of Ali has record of 9 loss and 15 wins before Ali. This of course isn't Tysons fault, more like the trend which is used also in these days. You build a reputation by beating bums, and by that miracle, you are superstar and champion  ;D

Tyson boxed those willing to fight him. Some fighters actually called him out after fights for essentially the same stuff you're talking about. One of them was Larry Holmes, who actually beat Mohammed Ali and went night-night for the first time in his career when he fought Mike. Another one was Mitch Green, but we all know what happened to him too (got his ass whooped by Mike on the streets and in the ring). It wasn't only until Mike lost to Buster Douglas that all of a sudden people like Holyfield developed the guts to fight him.

Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: Quickerblade on January 03, 2014, 09:36:27 PM
Tyson boxed those willing to fight him. Some fighters actually called him out after fights for essentially the same stuff you're talking about. One of them was Larry Holmes, who actually beat Mohammed Ali and went night-night for the first time in his career when he fought Mike. Another one was Mitch Green, but we all know what happened to him too (got his ass whooped by Mike on the streets and in the ring). It wasn't only until Mike lost to Buster Douglas that all of a sudden people like Holyfield developed the guts to fight him.



being a professional was the furthest thing on his mind then, by the time he was 24 yrs old he was over, i think he was accussed of rape when he was 25, that was the end. As he said a bunch of times, he was not enjoying it.

Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: galeniko on January 03, 2014, 11:04:34 PM
Would of, could of, should of ::)

lol was thinking the same.

every champion was "overrated".

but still the champ.

mustve happened all by luck.

if they were overrated so much whats stopping the loudmouths to step in the ring and show us the ways? ;D

i mean, ok johny falcone has called out half ufc rooster and the klitschkos, they didnt get back at him, means they scared.

but the ones coming running the mouth after the fact, this is too obvious
Title: Re: Mike Tyson wanted none of Jerome Labanner
Post by: kohl on January 04, 2014, 04:14:02 AM
tyson was already on the downward spiral before japan and buster douglas. go back a few years before japan and see how tyson was no longer using the peak a bow double fisted sledge hammer high/low combination style that made mike iron mike. he was a head hunter for a few years before japan.

tyson prime would knock out lennox prime within 3rds. i've followed boxing - actually watched it since when larry holmes was champ. I don't know about Ali, but everyone since Ali - prime tyson could beat.

¨^^^^THIS! THIS! THIS!