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Title: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 05, 2014, 07:20:47 PM
I hope some privacy advocates can scrutinize my inadvertent gooberment spying reduction regime, even though I have literally nothing worth snooping for anyway (this is still a fun academic exercise, I think):

-Building a Linux (https://fedoraproject.org/) machine
-An email service hosted overseas by one of those activist sites, e.g., riseup.net (https://riseup.net/en)
-Thunderbird (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/) with Enigmail (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigmail) to encrypt/sign emails
-A VPN (http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source.html) then used to access Tor (https://www.torproject.org/) for browsing
-Truecrypt (http://www.truecrypt.org/) to encrypt various folders/usb drives as needed
-KeePass (http://keepass.info/) password management software to generate long, secure passwords. Keep KeePass encrypted on a flash drive
-Replicant (http://replicant.us/) phone operating system using Linphone (https://www.linphone.org/) for encrypted VOIP calls via either 3G or Wifi
-Encrypted chatting/file sharing via Retroshare (http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/)
-Cloud storage via self-hosting a server on a Raspberry Pi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi)
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 05, 2014, 09:21:25 PM
My mistake ladies and gentlemen, let's get back to discussing the precise albedo one's thong should be to best hypnotize the schmoes.  ::)
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The Ugly on January 05, 2014, 10:19:45 PM
What do you suppose they're looking for?
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on January 05, 2014, 10:58:51 PM
I'm all about that VPN life. 8)


But what's this "Tor" you speak of? Speciality browser or something?

I'm a newb at this...
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Radical Plato on January 06, 2014, 02:22:15 AM
What do you suppose they're looking for?
(http://www.gsmnation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/1.-Mega-Image-Courtesy-Digital-Trends.jpg)
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 06, 2014, 07:17:13 AM
You could live in a one room shack in the woods of Montana and only use various US post offices for your correspondence, wait what?
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: dustin on January 06, 2014, 07:36:08 AM
With all those efforts they'll still find a way to infiltrate it.

I may be an asshole and do all that as well, giving them a bit of a harder time. But at the end of the day you're just giving yourself a false sense of security. To piss them off, I would go these lengths though. If I get a long weekend I'll rig something up like that. It's the least I can do to piss them off. Bunch of cock suckers. :-\
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Archer77 on January 06, 2014, 07:40:37 AM
I knew it.  Syntax is an international spy. 
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 06, 2014, 01:58:06 PM
What do you suppose they're looking for?

I don't possess anything of value to the USG. But this fact doesn't reduce my desire to exercise my right not to be continually surveilled by my own government, however innocuous a form that surveillance takes (e.g., the metadata of all my digital communications being stored, but never retrieved, in some database in Maryland).

It's also worth noting that the measures outlined in the OP are useful for parrying corporate attempts to subvert your privacy, as when insurance companies attempt (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704648604575620750998072986) to collect as much information about your digital life as possible when deciding whether to grant you a policy, among other things.

But what's this "Tor" you speak of? Speciality browser or something?

I'm a newb at this...

It's a proxy service that, when used properly, enables anonymous browsing via Firefox. It grants access to the deep web, the seedy underbelly of the internet where the Silk Road and pedos reside (and much else besides).
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: dr.chimps on January 06, 2014, 02:06:30 PM
Cory Doctorow talked about this the other day. Apparently some spooks only buy their computers by randomly walking into random computer stores at random times (etc.) and taking a floor or boxed model to the cash. That way avoiding intercepted deliveries and installed malwares or devices. Fark me.   :-\
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2014, 02:07:47 PM
No matter what, don't have anabolichalo's ex encrypt your .pdf docs.
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 06, 2014, 02:17:20 PM
Interesting article written by a GetBigger (Really):

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046227/meet-darknet-the-hidden-anonymous-underbelly-of-the-searchable-web.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046227/meet-darknet-the-hidden-anonymous-underbelly-of-the-searchable-web.html)

"1"
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2014, 02:18:45 PM
Interesting article written by a GetBigger (Really):

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046227/meet-darknet-the-hidden-anonymous-underbelly-of-the-searchable-web.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046227/meet-darknet-the-hidden-anonymous-underbelly-of-the-searchable-web.html)

"1"

Basile wrote this article?   :o

Quote
Most of the flotsam and jetsam found in the Deep Web are unintentional cast-offs
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The True Adonis on January 06, 2014, 02:23:52 PM
I don't possess anything of value to the USG. But this fact doesn't reduce my desire to exercise my right not to be continually surveilled by my own government, however innocuous a form that surveillance takes (e.g., the metadata of all my digital communications being stored, but never retrieved, in some database in Maryland).

It's also worth noting that the measures outlined in the OP are useful for parrying corporate attempts to subvert your privacy, as when insurance companies attempt (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704648604575620750998072986) to collect as much information about your digital life as possible when deciding whether to grant you a policy, among other things.

It's a proxy service that, when used properly, enables anonymous browsing via Firefox. It grants access to the deep web, the seedy underbelly of the internet where the Silk Road and pedos reside (and much else besides).
The only way you are going to win is if you support organizations like the ACLU and vote for the proper representation in government that opposes such measures.

Building your crappy 12 frames per second budget box that still can easily be broken into is not going to do anything.
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: galeniko on January 06, 2014, 02:28:01 PM
I hope some privacy advocates can scrutinize my inadvertent gooberment spying reduction regime, even though I have literally nothing worth snooping for anyway (this is still a fun academic exercise, I think):

-Building a Linux (https://fedoraproject.org/) machine
-An email service hosted overseas by one of those activist sites, e.g., riseup.net (https://riseup.net/en)
-Thunderbird (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/) with Enigmail (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigmail) to encrypt/sign emails
-A VPN (http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source.html) then used to access Tor (https://www.torproject.org/) for browsing
-Truecrypt (http://www.truecrypt.org/) to encrypt various folders/usb drives as needed
-KeePass (http://keepass.info/) password management software to generate long, secure passwords. Keep KeePass encrypted on a flash drive
-Replicant (http://replicant.us/) phone operating system using Linphone (https://www.linphone.org/) for encrypted VOIP calls via either 3G or Wifi
-Encrypted chatting/file sharing via Retroshare (http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/)
-Cloud storage via self-hosting a server on a Raspberry Pi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi)
what about the phone?

they have access to everything easy if they want.

and i think whatever is on the net they can somehow find out.

some italian mob boss once said only messages on little papers,or in person.

but,whatfor anyway.

itd be up to congresses worldwide to stop the madness, but i dont see it hapening
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Archer77 on January 06, 2014, 02:29:23 PM
The only way you are going to win is if you support organizations like the ACLU and vote for the proper representation in government that opposes such measures.

Building your crappy 12 frames per second budget box that still can easily be broken into is not going to do anything.

One thing about the ACLU I dislike is that they've remained very quiet on gun rights.
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The True Adonis on January 06, 2014, 02:31:19 PM
One thing about the ACLU I dislike is that they've remained very quiet on gun rights.
Not really.

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/320357-nra-claims-nsa-illegally-created-a-gun-database

NRA joins ACLU lawsuit, claims NSA starting 'gun registry' (Video)

By Brendan Sasso
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The National Rifle Association joined the American Civil Liberties Union's lawsuit on Wednesday to end the government's massive phone record collection program.

In a brief filed in federal court, the NRA argues that the National Security Agency's database of phone records amounts to a "national gun registry."

"It would be absurd to think that the Congress would adopt and maintain a web of statutes intended to protect against the creation of a national gun registry, while simultaneously authorizing the FBI and the NSA to gather records that could effectively create just such a registry," the group writes.

After leaks by Edward Snowden, the NSA acknowledged that it collects records on virtually all U.S. phone calls. The data include phone numbers, call times and call durations, but not the contents of the conversations. The NSA says it only "queries" the database a limited number of times for specific national security reasons. 

The NSA argues that Congress authorized the phone data surveillance with Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which allows for the collection of business records "relevant" to terrorism.

In its filing, the gun-rights group claims that the NSA's database would allow the government to identify and track gun owners based on whether they've called gun stores, shooting ranges or the NRA.

"Under the government’s reading of Section 215, the government could simply demand the periodic submission of all firearms dealers’ transaction records, then centralize them in a database indexed by the buyers’ names for later searching," the NRA writes.

The group claims that Congress could never have meant to authorize such a vast surveillance operation because it has repeatedly rejected proposals to create a national gun registry.

The NRA's brief also claims that the phone record program violates its members' First Amendment rights to associate and communicate freely. The group argues that people could fear retribution for associating with the gun-rights group if they knew the government was monitoring their phone records.

The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, along with a host of news organizations including Bloomberg, Fox, National Public Radio and The New Yorker, also filed a brief on Wednesday in support of the ACLU lawsuit. The groups claim that the phone data collection inhibits the ability of journalists to contact sources and gather news.
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: dr.chimps on January 06, 2014, 02:31:24 PM
what about the phone?

they have access to everything easy if they want.

and i think whatever is on the net they can somehow find out.

some italian mob boss once said only messages on little papers,or in person.

but,whatfor anyway.

itd be up to congresses worldwide to stop the madness, but i dont see it hapening

Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The True Adonis on January 06, 2014, 02:33:48 PM
One thing about the ACLU I dislike is that they've remained very quiet on gun rights.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/04/exclusive-aclu-says-reids-gun-legislation-could-threaten-privacy-rights-civil-liberties/

EXCLUSIVE: ACLU says Reid’s gun legislation could threaten privacy rights, civil liberties

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/04/exclusive-aclu-says-reids-gun-legislation-could-threaten-privacy-rights-civil-liberties/#ixzz2pf0dQ4jg



Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Teutonic Knight on January 06, 2014, 02:34:18 PM
No matter what, don't have anabolichalo's ex encrypt your .pdf docs.

Is that Cuban creation  :)
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 06, 2014, 02:34:19 PM
Building your crappy 12 frames per second budget box that still can easily be broken into is not going to do anything.

It will make me feel good.

Also, I'm not so sure utilizing the above methods is totally ineffective in subverting surveillance. Have any evidence to the contrary?

Finally, even if they aren't effective against the gooberment, they may work to varying degrees against corporate violators.
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The True Adonis on January 06, 2014, 02:36:39 PM
http://digitaljournal.com/article/275781

ACLU Defends Gun Rights in New Orleans
Like this article37
By Carol Forsloff   
Jul 11, 2009 in Politics

Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/275781#ixzz2pf1KzR8I
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The True Adonis on January 06, 2014, 02:37:20 PM
http://jonathanturley.org/2012/02/17/aclu-files-on-behalf-of-gun-owner-abusively-arrested-by-philadelphia-police/

ACLU Files On Behalf Of Gun Owner Abusively Arrested By Philadelphia Police
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The True Adonis on January 06, 2014, 02:37:59 PM
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jul/11/only-nevada-aclu-opposes-gun-control/

Nevada ACLU supports an individual’s right to bear arms
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The Ugly on January 06, 2014, 02:39:57 PM
One thing about the ACLU I dislike is that they've remained very quiet on gun rights.

Seems you're getting Google-Fued, dude. TA is a 7th degree black belt.
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Archer77 on January 06, 2014, 02:46:19 PM
Seems you're getting Google-Fued, dude. TA is a 7th degree black belt.

I must be.  I do appreciate the information. I don't mind being wrong. 
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The True Adonis on January 06, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Archer77 is one of the most intelligent posters on this site in my opinion.  I also like Shockwave a lot.  Without them, the politics board would be total nut-jobbery.
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The Ugly on January 06, 2014, 02:48:46 PM
I must be.  I do appreciate the information. I don't mind being wrong. 

I didn't think the ACLU gave a shit about gun rights either.
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Archer77 on January 06, 2014, 02:49:47 PM
Archer77 is one of the most intelligent posters on this site in my opinion.  I also like Shockwave a lot.  Without them, the politics board would be total nut-jobbery.

I really do appreciate the info and I apologize for my ignorance.  I shouldn't have spoken on the subject without doing my do diligence.  
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: The True Adonis on January 06, 2014, 03:01:52 PM
The ACLU is the best thing ever.  They only exist to protect individual freedoms and civil liberties. People who hate them often do so out of blind fervor.  They protect the Neo Nazi`s right to free speech the same as a Hebrew.
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: dr.chimps on January 06, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
I really do appreciate the info and I apologize for my ignorance.  I shouldn't have spoken on the subject without doing my do diligence.  
Due.   ;D

Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: Archer77 on January 06, 2014, 03:07:00 PM
Due.   ;D



Thank you, chimps.  You old bastard.  ;D
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: dr.chimps on January 06, 2014, 03:10:40 PM
Thank you, chimps.  You old bastard.  ;D
It`s you young punks that keep aging me.   ;D
Title: Re: Dodging US Government Spying Efforts
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on January 06, 2014, 07:31:30 PM