Question:by recent u mean thousands of years , no?
Islamic antichrist? Will the antichrist be a Muslim?
Answer:
With the increasing tensions in the Middle East in recent years, and particularly the statements by Shiite Muslim extremists regarding the Twelfth Imam, many people have begun to ask how this relates to Bible prophecies. To answer, we must first find out who the Twelfth Imam is and what he is expected to do for Islam. Second, we must examine the statements by Shiite Muslims in relation to those hopes, and, third, we need to look to the Bible to shed light on the whole issue.Within the Shiite branch of Islam, there have been twelve imams, or spiritual leaders appointed by Allah. These began with Imam Ali, cousin to Muhammad, who claimed the prophetic succession after Muhammad's death. Around A.D. 868, the Twelfth Imam, Abu al-Qasim Muhammad (or Muhammad al Mahdi), was born to the Eleventh Imam. Because his father was under intense persecution, the Mahdi was sent into hiding for his protection. About the age of 6, he briefly came out of hiding when his father was killed, but then went back into hiding. It is said that he has been hiding in caves ever since and will supernaturally return just before the day of judgment to eradicate all tyranny and oppression, bringing harmony and peace to the earth. He is the savior of the world in Shiite theology. According to one writer, the Mahdi will combine the dignity of Moses, the grace of Jesus, and the patience of Job in one perfect person.
The predictions about the Twelfth Imam have a striking similarity to Bible prophecies of the end times. According to Islamic prophecy, the Mahdi's return will be preceded by a number of events during three years of horrendous world chaos, and he will rule over the Arabs and the world for seven years. His appearance will be accompanied by two resurrections, one of the wicked and one of the righteous. According to Shiite teachings, the Mahdi's leadership will be accepted by Jesus, and the two great branches of Abraham's family will be reunited forever.How do the statements of Shiite Muslims, such as the President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, tie into this? Ahmadinejad is a deeply committed Shiite and claims that he is to personally prepare the world for the coming Mahdi. In order for the world to be saved, it must be in a state of chaos and subjugation, and Ahmadinejad feels he was directed by Allah to pave the way for that. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly made statements about destroying the enemies of Islam. The Iranian President and his cabinet have supposedly signed a contract with al Mahdi in which they pledge themselves to his work. When asked directly by ABC reporter Ann Curry in September 2009 about his apocalyptic statements, Ahmadinejad said, “Imam...will come with logic, with culture, with science. He will come so that there is no more war. No more enmity, hatred. No more conflict. He will call on everyone to enter a brotherly love. Of course, he will return with Jesus Christ. The two will come back together. And working together, they would fill this world with love.”What does all this have to do with the Antichrist? According to 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, there will be a “man of sin” revealed in the last days who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God. In Daniel 7 we read of Daniel's vision of four beasts which represent kingdoms which play major roles in God's prophetic plan. The fourth beast is described (v. 7-8) as being dreadful, terrible, exceedingly strong, and different from those which came before it. It is also described as having a “little horn” which uproots other horns. This little horn is often identified as the Antichrist. In verse 25 he is described as speaking “great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time” (3 ½ years). In Daniel 8, the vision of the ram and the goat identifies a king who will arise in the last days (v. 23-25), destroy many people, and stand up against Christ, but this king will be broken. In Daniel 9:27 it is prophesied that the “prince that shall come” would make a 7-year covenant with many people and then bring in much desolation.
Who will this Antichrist be? No one knows for certain, but many theories have been given, including the possibility that he will be an Arab.Regardless of the various theories, there are a few parallels between the Bible and Shiite theology that we should note. First, the Bible says that the Antichrist's kingdom will rule the world for seven years, and Islam claims that the Twelfth Imam will rule the world for seven years. Second, Muslims anticipate three years of chaos before the revealing of the Twelfth Imam, and the Bible speaks of 3 ½ years of Tribulation before the Antichrist reveals himself by desecrating the Jewish temple. Third, the Antichrist is described as a deceiver who claims to bring peace, but who actually brings widespread war; the anticipation of the Twelfth Imam is that he will bring peace through massive war with the rest of the world. Will the Antichrist be a Muslim? Only God knows. Are there connections between Islamic eschatology and Christian eschatology? There certainly seem to be direct correlations, though they are like reading the descriptions of a great battle, first from the perspective of the loser, trying to save face, and then from the perspective of the victor. Until we see the fulfillment of these things, we need to heed the words of 1 John 4:1-4, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.”
First, the Bible says that the Antichrist's kingdom will rule the world for seven years, and Islam claims that the Twelfth Imam will rule the world for seven years. Second, Muslims anticipate three years of chaos before the revealing of the Twelfth Imam, and the Bible speaks of 3 ½ years of Tribulation before the Antichrist reveals himself by desecrating the Jewish temple. Third, the Antichrist is described as a deceiver who claims to bring peace, but who actually brings widespread war; the anticipation of the Twelfth Imam is that he will bring peace through massive war with the rest of the world.Te term anti-Christ in revelations is referring to a single world leader who takes control of one World government, not necessarily a government that control nations but someone who monopolizes the worlds economy like the Rothschild family.
Te term anti-Christ in revelations is referring to a single world leader who takes control of one World government, not necessarily a government that control nations but someone who monopolizes the worlds economy like the Rothschild family.
The chances of a Muslim being the anti Christ is 1 in a million.
Question:
Islamic antichrist? Will the antichrist be a Muslim?
Answer:
With the increasing tensions in the Middle East in recent years, and particularly the statements by Shiite Muslim extremists regarding the Twelfth Imam, many people have begun to ask how this relates to Bible prophecies. To answer, we must first find out who the Twelfth Imam is and what he is expected to do for Islam. Second, we must examine the statements by Shiite Muslims in relation to those hopes, and, third, we need to look to the Bible to shed light on the whole issue.Within the Shiite branch of Islam, there have been twelve imams, or spiritual leaders appointed by Allah. These began with Imam Ali, cousin to Muhammad, who claimed the prophetic succession after Muhammad's death. Around A.D. 868, the Twelfth Imam, Abu al-Qasim Muhammad (or Muhammad al Mahdi), was born to the Eleventh Imam. Because his father was under intense persecution, the Mahdi was sent into hiding for his protection. About the age of 6, he briefly came out of hiding when his father was killed, but then went back into hiding. It is said that he has been hiding in caves ever since and will supernaturally return just before the day of judgment to eradicate all tyranny and oppression, bringing harmony and peace to the earth. He is the savior of the world in Shiite theology. According to one writer, the Mahdi will combine the dignity of Moses, the grace of Jesus, and the patience of Job in one perfect person.
The predictions about the Twelfth Imam have a striking similarity to Bible prophecies of the end times. According to Islamic prophecy, the Mahdi's return will be preceded by a number of events during three years of horrendous world chaos, and he will rule over the Arabs and the world for seven years. His appearance will be accompanied by two resurrections, one of the wicked and one of the righteous. According to Shiite teachings, the Mahdi's leadership will be accepted by Jesus, and the two great branches of Abraham's family will be reunited forever.How do the statements of Shiite Muslims, such as the President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, tie into this? Ahmadinejad is a deeply committed Shiite and claims that he is to personally prepare the world for the coming Mahdi. In order for the world to be saved, it must be in a state of chaos and subjugation, and Ahmadinejad feels he was directed by Allah to pave the way for that. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly made statements about destroying the enemies of Islam. The Iranian President and his cabinet have supposedly signed a contract with al Mahdi in which they pledge themselves to his work. When asked directly by ABC reporter Ann Curry in September 2009 about his apocalyptic statements, Ahmadinejad said, “Imam...will come with logic, with culture, with science. He will come so that there is no more war. No more enmity, hatred. No more conflict. He will call on everyone to enter a brotherly love. Of course, he will return with Jesus Christ. The two will come back together. And working together, they would fill this world with love.”What does all this have to do with the Antichrist? According to 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, there will be a “man of sin” revealed in the last days who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God. In Daniel 7 we read of Daniel's vision of four beasts which represent kingdoms which play major roles in God's prophetic plan. The fourth beast is described (v. 7-8) as being dreadful, terrible, exceedingly strong, and different from those which came before it. It is also described as having a “little horn” which uproots other horns. This little horn is often identified as the Antichrist. In verse 25 he is described as speaking “great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time” (3 ½ years). In Daniel 8, the vision of the ram and the goat identifies a king who will arise in the last days (v. 23-25), destroy many people, and stand up against Christ, but this king will be broken. In Daniel 9:27 it is prophesied that the “prince that shall come” would make a 7-year covenant with many people and then bring in much desolation.
Who will this Antichrist be? No one knows for certain, but many theories have been given, including the possibility that he will be an Arab.Regardless of the various theories, there are a few parallels between the Bible and Shiite theology that we should note. First, the Bible says that the Antichrist's kingdom will rule the world for seven years, and Islam claims that the Twelfth Imam will rule the world for seven years. Second, Muslims anticipate three years of chaos before the revealing of the Twelfth Imam, and the Bible speaks of 3 ½ years of Tribulation before the Antichrist reveals himself by desecrating the Jewish temple. Third, the Antichrist is described as a deceiver who claims to bring peace, but who actually brings widespread war; the anticipation of the Twelfth Imam is that he will bring peace through massive war with the rest of the world. Will the Antichrist be a Muslim? Only God knows. Are there connections between Islamic eschatology and Christian eschatology? There certainly seem to be direct correlations, though they are like reading the descriptions of a great battle, first from the perspective of the loser, trying to save face, and then from the perspective of the victor. Until we see the fulfillment of these things, we need to heed the words of 1 John 4:1-4, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.”
First, the Bible says that the Antichrist's kingdom will rule the world for seven years, and Islam claims that the Twelfth Imam will rule the world for seven years. Second, Muslims anticipate three years of chaos before the revealing of the Twelfth Imam, and the Bible speaks of 3 ½ years of Tribulation before the Antichrist reveals himself by desecrating the Jewish temple. Third, the Antichrist is described as a deceiver who claims to bring peace, but who actually brings widespread war; the anticipation of the Twelfth Imam is that he will bring peace through massive war with the rest of the world.
Te term anti-Christ in revelations is referring to a single world leader who takes control of one World government, not necessarily a government that control nations but someone who monopolizes the worlds economy like the Rothschild family.
The chances of a Muslim being the anti Christ is 1 in a million.
Even with all that oil money?good point, they have a lot of power, tables can turn but unlikely since the banking system is the real king pin.
More like 1 in 6I see what you did there
Te term anti-Christ in revelations is referring to a single world leader who takes control of one World government, not necessarily a government that control nations but someone who monopolizes the worlds economy like the Rothschild family.rest your faith not in your own understanding but in the literal and direct truth found in the word of God
The chances of a Muslim being the anti Christ is 1 in a million.
The anti christ will sign a peace pact with isreal. Who would do that? A muslim leader.
:)
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Te term anti-Christ in revelations is referring to a single world leader who takes control of one World government, not necessarily a government that control nations but someone who monopolizes the worlds economy like the Rothschild family.
The chances of a Muslim being the anti Christ is 1 in a million.
Even with all that oil money?
Te term anti-Christ in revelations is referring to a single world leader who takes control of one World government, not necessarily a government that control nations but someone who monopolizes the worlds economy like the Rothschild family.
The chances of a Muslim being the anti Christ is 1 in a million.
Please speak more on this. What about someone with something like all water-rights?
Question:
Islamic antichrist? Will the antichrist be a Muslim?
Answer:
With the increasing tensions in the Middle East in recent years, and particularly the statements by Shiite Muslim extremists regarding the Twelfth Imam, many people have begun to ask how this relates to Bible prophecies. To answer, we must first find out who the Twelfth Imam is and what he is expected to do for Islam. Second, we must examine the statements by Shiite Muslims in relation to those hopes, and, third, we need to look to the Bible to shed light on the whole issue.Within the Shiite branch of Islam, there have been twelve imams, or spiritual leaders appointed by Allah. These began with Imam Ali, cousin to Muhammad, who claimed the prophetic succession after Muhammad's death. Around A.D. 868, the Twelfth Imam, Abu al-Qasim Muhammad (or Muhammad al Mahdi), was born to the Eleventh Imam. Because his father was under intense persecution, the Mahdi was sent into hiding for his protection. About the age of 6, he briefly came out of hiding when his father was killed, but then went back into hiding. It is said that he has been hiding in caves ever since and will supernaturally return just before the day of judgment to eradicate all tyranny and oppression, bringing harmony and peace to the earth. He is the savior of the world in Shiite theology. According to one writer, the Mahdi will combine the dignity of Moses, the grace of Jesus, and the patience of Job in one perfect person.
The predictions about the Twelfth Imam have a striking similarity to Bible prophecies of the end times. According to Islamic prophecy, the Mahdi's return will be preceded by a number of events during three years of horrendous world chaos, and he will rule over the Arabs and the world for seven years. His appearance will be accompanied by two resurrections, one of the wicked and one of the righteous. According to Shiite teachings, the Mahdi's leadership will be accepted by Jesus, and the two great branches of Abraham's family will be reunited forever.How do the statements of Shiite Muslims, such as the President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, tie into this? Ahmadinejad is a deeply committed Shiite and claims that he is to personally prepare the world for the coming Mahdi. In order for the world to be saved, it must be in a state of chaos and subjugation, and Ahmadinejad feels he was directed by Allah to pave the way for that. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly made statements about destroying the enemies of Islam. The Iranian President and his cabinet have supposedly signed a contract with al Mahdi in which they pledge themselves to his work. When asked directly by ABC reporter Ann Curry in September 2009 about his apocalyptic statements, Ahmadinejad said, “Imam...will come with logic, with culture, with science. He will come so that there is no more war. No more enmity, hatred. No more conflict. He will call on everyone to enter a brotherly love. Of course, he will return with Jesus Christ. The two will come back together. And working together, they would fill this world with love.”What does all this have to do with the Antichrist? According to 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, there will be a “man of sin” revealed in the last days who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God. In Daniel 7 we read of Daniel's vision of four beasts which represent kingdoms which play major roles in God's prophetic plan. The fourth beast is described (v. 7-8) as being dreadful, terrible, exceedingly strong, and different from those which came before it. It is also described as having a “little horn” which uproots other horns. This little horn is often identified as the Antichrist. In verse 25 he is described as speaking “great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time” (3 ½ years). In Daniel 8, the vision of the ram and the goat identifies a king who will arise in the last days (v. 23-25), destroy many people, and stand up against Christ, but this king will be broken. In Daniel 9:27 it is prophesied that the “prince that shall come” would make a 7-year covenant with many people and then bring in much desolation.
Who will this Antichrist be? No one knows for certain, but many theories have been given, including the possibility that he will be an Arab.Regardless of the various theories, there are a few parallels between the Bible and Shiite theology that we should note. First, the Bible says that the Antichrist's kingdom will rule the world for seven years, and Islam claims that the Twelfth Imam will rule the world for seven years. Second, Muslims anticipate three years of chaos before the revealing of the Twelfth Imam, and the Bible speaks of 3 ½ years of Tribulation before the Antichrist reveals himself by desecrating the Jewish temple. Third, the Antichrist is described as a deceiver who claims to bring peace, but who actually brings widespread war; the anticipation of the Twelfth Imam is that he will bring peace through massive war with the rest of the world. Will the Antichrist be a Muslim? Only God knows. Are there connections between Islamic eschatology and Christian eschatology? There certainly seem to be direct correlations, though they are like reading the descriptions of a great battle, first from the perspective of the loser, trying to save face, and then from the perspective of the victor. Until we see the fulfillment of these things, we need to heed the words of 1 John 4:1-4, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.”
Hierarchy is already taking control of the water supplies...Some people have even been arrested in America for harvesting rain water on their own property... :-\
Dude something that doesn;'t exist doesn't even have odds. It has the same odds as the easter bunny, 1 in a million that little fucker lives.And hides eggs...that it possibly laid.
Hierarchy is already taking control of the water supplies...Some people have even been arrested in America for harvesting rain water on their own property... :-\
Nothing compared to the Banker money...Rothchilds also allegedly have trillions in gold...
rest your faith not in your own understanding but in the literal and direct truth found in the word of Godtrue but that does not translate to the anti-Christ in Revelation to mean he is a Muslim ;)
Dude something that doesn;'t exist doesn't even have odds. It has the same odds as the easter bunny, 1 in a million that little fucker lives.well we are all going with the scenario given in the Bible, weather it be true or not, there is a precise person behind what it is indicating.
Please speak more on this. What about someone with something like all water-rights?It has to be precisely someone who controls currency because it states one can not buy or sell without the mark of the beast which religious theologians are all in agreement that is talking about an RFID chip implanted in the right hand
true but that does not translate to the anti-Christ in Revelation to mean he is a Muslim ;)my recollection is that the anti christ will.be a ruler with no interest in women who willl speak effectivelt and put up a picture of himself in the temple to be worshipped above god. He will be a leader and there will be something like a world government.
It has to be precisely someone who controls currency because it states one can not buy or sell without the mark of the beast which religious theologians are all in agreement that is talking about an RFID chip implanted in the right handmark of the beast= "666" = greek symbols =
It has to be precisely someone who controls currency because it states one can not buy or sell without the mark of the beast which religious theologians are all in agreement that is talking about an RFID chip implanted in the right hand
my recollection is that the anti christ will.be a ruler with no interest in women who willl speak effectivelt and put up a picture of himself in the temple to be worshipped above god. He will be a leader and there will be something like a world government.true, which is why everyone thinks it is the pope, but I do not buy that either. You have a very strong argument here about Islam Tbomz but the problem i have with it is the majority of civilized nations will not follow Islam and Revelations makes it clear ''all nations''
Why wouldn't an obvious "trick" be to put it somewhere else??but they won't though, the Bible says right hand and RFID chip system has already been designed and protocol for the right hand. The main spokes person for the RFID chip was asked about putting the chip in the left hand instead so the Christians do no think it is the mark of the beast and his response was, '' we will not change our system on account of a few religious nuts"
true, which is why everyone thinks it is the pope, but I do not buy that either. You have a very strong argument here about Islam Tbomz but the problem i have with it is the majority of civilized nations will not follow Islam and Revelations makes it clear ''all nations''
with the Rothscilds it can be all nations because every nation on the planet except for ONLY 3 have ties with them and their banking systems.
The 3 are North Korea, Iran and Cuba and its just a matter of time.
What about Iceland Onetimehard? I was seeing something where they arrested the bankers there and they nationalized their banking system (did not hear a f'ing thing on the "mainstream media" even though this happened a while ago)interesting? do you have a link, wouldn't mind reading up on that
but they won't though, the Bible says right hand and RFID chip system has already been designed and protocol for the right hand. The main spokes person for the RFID chip was asked about putting the chip in the left hand instead so the Christians do no think it is the mark of the beast and his response was, '' we will not change our system on account of a few religious nuts"
I did not know this.no it says right hand or forehead but I think it is primarily the right hand and forehead only applies to the few who do not have a right hand, oh BTW the RFID chip will go in the forehead or temporal area of the individuals who do not have a right hand as well.
I have heard it mentioned as the head (forehead, I think) or hand...what is your opinion of this? Do different versions of the Bible say different things about it??
Mark of the beast= binshallahMark of the beast = RFID chip, the Bible says it will be obvious and anyone can figure this out.
interesting? do you have a link, wouldn't mind reading up on that
Hey that was your 12000 post, bro! Congrats, lollol haha 12000 ;D
I'm afraid people will think I'm trying to push an agenda by the website link...if you look at words iceland and bank (or bankers, banking, etc), you will see the articles about it
I want to know if they got rid of the "world bank" or whatever it is...
This is really interesting topic
An rfid chip, under the skin and basically invisible, is an obvious mark? It would have absolutely no connection to faith or good works. And it would be invisible. And you think thats obvious?
Dude, Revelation prophecy was written in greek. The symbol for islam was mistaken as the greek symbols for 666. Muslims wear it on the arm band and bandana.
(http://www.southernforum4truth.org/images/nongraphic/2013/666_Part2_13.jpg)
First, the Bible says that the Antichrist's kingdom will rule the world for seven years, and Islam claims that the Twelfth Imam will rule the world for seven years. Second, Muslims anticipate three years of chaos before the revealing of the Twelfth Imam, and the Bible speaks of 3 ½ years of Tribulation before the Antichrist reveals himself by desecrating the Jewish temple. Third, the Antichrist is described as a deceiver who claims to bring peace, but who actually brings widespread war; the anticipation of the Twelfth Imam is that he will bring peace through massive war with the rest of the world.it doesn't say he will rule the world, it says he will have great power. That's a big misconception people have.
but they won't though, the Bible says right hand and RFID chip system has already been designed and protocol for the right hand. The main spokes person for the RFID chip was asked about putting the chip in the left hand instead so the Christians do no think it is the mark of the beast and his response was, '' we will not change our system on account of a few religious nuts"
Oh boy, so many questions...ya I am lying about the quote and in the process calling myself a ''religeous nut'' ::) you ignorant door knob :P
First who asked this question? Second, who did he ask? Who is this unnamed spokesman and what is this unnamed company? Since you have the actual quote, finding the details should be pretty easy.
Second, I seem to recap similar concerns over UPC labels and barcodes in general. Claims about how they contained the number of the beast were frequent and some Christians were quite concerned that it was the mark of the beast. How is this different?
In another post, you claim that the chip is for the right hand with a backup location in the forehead for those who don't have a right hand. What's special about the right hand? And if that location is special, why choose the forehead as an alternate location which is quite different than the hand? It'd be like a car company putting a second brake pedal in the trunk, in case the first broke off.
ya I am lying about the quote and in the process calling myself a ''religeous nut'' ::) you ignorant door knob :P
So then you can tell us who this spokesperson was? What about the name of this company?if you insist then, will look for it later, but what does it matter anyway ???
I think the Apple 666 shit, and much other stuff, is an intentional inside joke. Highly likely that a few higher ups actually believe and practice magic and the lower ones probably think it's hip to use Symbology to be edgy and elusive.
The mark on the forehead it most likely representing corruption of your thoughts - herd mentality aka showoff, doing as if, lying, ...
Don't know about the hand but maybe it's connected to your deeds?
tbomb dont waste whats left of your time with such things.
be psoitive about life and do dnjoyable things.i dont mean rec drugs by this btw.
let positive things occupy your mind.
find a job and take your girl to a 1 week holday at beach or something.
Every religious kook believes the antichrist will arrive during his lifetime. Every CT nut job believes the apocalypse will happen on his watch. We are but a blip on the radar of history. Our deaths will not be that dramatic.
what kind of "kook" or "nut" are you??
Neither.
thought i've seen you put out some really stupid shit on this board...maybe I'm mistaking you for somebody else ("Ugly" or a similar name)
Perhaps. As stupid as this stuff?
it was someone that kept saying government spying on citizens without oversight was "no problem" or something really stupid like that (might have even said it was "good")
he was being fully serious
Could have been me, but I wouldn't have said it was good. Just that I wasn't all that concerned about it.
i wish we could separate our risk from one another then...'cause i sure as FUCK am not going to trust some shady mofos in the background helping themselves to the data that will keep them in power until hell freezes over.
it's a trap.
(or can you say how we know it is not a trap?)
I understand this bothers most people, and I don't remember belittling anyone for feeling the way you do. I just don't see what info I have that might be of any use or concern to anyone possibly spying on me. Fuck it, I have more immediate problems to be concerned with. If this makes me stupid, so be it. I'll let you know if/when the shit hits the fan, Vegas.
Meanwhile, we're discussing this in a thread about the antichrist. You don't find that a little silly?
it's difficult for you to see beyond yourself, you mean?
Please clarify.
since you can't see why anyone would be interested in spying on you, specifically, it doesn;t bother you
(is that what you mean?)
I was only speaking for myself, yes.
but you are not ok with unwarranted spying as a whole?
No.
Do you have reason to believe you are being watched? If so, what is it you think they want?
then you can;t be ok with it happening to you, because that's exactly what it means
I don't like the precedent it sets, and I'm not crazy about a government that distrusts its citizens to such an extent, but we're assuming this is common practice, which I don't believe is the case. I think that's paranoid thinking, which should be reserved for the Conspiracy Board.
But please don't tell me what I'm not ok with. I was being honest about not being overly concerned.
other people are definitely trying to do that, though, every day
how can you have it both ways?
You're speculating. You don't know for a fact this is happening. This is CT talk, which I usually won't engage.
Last post. Being personally ok with it is another way of me saying I don't believe anyone's looking at my shit. I have no reason to believe they are. I was being dismissive, I didn't anticipate a debate. For the record, yes, spying on your own citizens = bad.
Done.
;D(http://www.getbig.com/boards/avatars/avatar_25641.png)
The flaw in this whole thread is the term Anti-Christ. That is because you must first believe in a fictional character with super powers and then an opposite character who also has super powers.
but don't you believe in good and evil?
but don't you believe in good and evil?
The flaw in this whole thread is the term Anti-Christ. That is because you must first believe in a fictional character with super powers and then an opposite character who also has super powers.well, see, the flaw in your comment is that Jesus has an opposite. Satan was one of the most powerful of the Angels, but he his powers are completely dependant upon God sustaining him. At any given second God could crush him into dust. There is no eternal struggle. There is only the omnipotence of God.
Some dude got high as fuck on the Isle of Patmos and wrote down a bunch of baloney.1) he didnt drugs 3) it was in a dream 4) the remarkable accuracy of the predictions and this latest development clearly indicates knowledge of the future 5) there is no interpreting, it is all direct literal truth
You can interpret this shit in any way you want as it's just insane ramblings. There is
certainly no concensus over the meaning even among Christians, so there will never be
a "truth"coming out of this word salad.
The Revelations is extra attrative for the religious lunatics because anyone can insert his pet theory into it, everything fits if you read it in a certain way.
I could use the Revelations to prove Ronald Coleman is our savior.
Not in the sense of archetypal, primal forces locked together in an eternal struggle. Yes in the sense that some people perform actions which we, by a set of standards called a moral code, deem to be good while others, by the same set of standards, perform actions which we deem to be evil.
i'll say they are powerful forces that have the capacity to motivate and guide the intent and sometimes the action..
Te term anti-Christ in revelations is referring to a single world leader who takes control of one World government, not necessarily a government that control nations but someone who monopolizes the worlds economy like the Rothschild family.
The chances of a Muslim being the anti Christ is 1 in a million.
So you believe that good and evil are, for lack of a better term, sentient and can influence people, as opposed to words that describe particular actions within the context of a moral code?
You forget the era we live in. A muslim elected to a position of world power, in this fucked up pc environment - possible.True but it would have to be a Muslim that does not believe in the Law
Look at what happened with Obama - the huge pc sympathy vote - translate that over to a muslim.
True but it would have to be a Muslim that does not believe in the Law