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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: jixxxer on January 14, 2014, 11:26:14 AM
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So Im 40, naturally, my test levels were always normal to high.......but I love being on (cycle); Im about to start again, just some Test and Eq, wld like to go 6 months, maybe 500cc/week for 3 months, then 250cc for 3 months and see from there. If i want to come off for whatever reason, is 6 months a long time to be on? R maybe shld i just stay on for good, which is kinda a pain in the ass i wld think, plus wld have to always be sure to have some test on hand. Opinions plz.
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your choice brother.
if yu dont mind losing it all, go off.
will regain all very quick later on.
just dont stay on too much mgs all the time.
if you go off you lose it all.all,lol, everyting.
which,in a way can feel like a relief, im not joking.
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So i guess your saying stay on! lol............that means if i live to be 75; I'll have to pin 1820 times at once a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I came off everything twice after being on for 6 and 8 months and stayed clean for approx same amount of time with no real issues. I was a bit emotional first few weeks but ok after that. Although I was roughly 19/20 years old each time.
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So i guess your saying stay on! lol............that means if i live to be 75; I'll have to pin 1820 times at once a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You might not live to 75 if you stay on lol... What are your test levels now? If your really don't want to come off do your cycles and then cruise at a TRT dose year Around
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So i guess your saying stay on! lol............that means if i live to be 75; I'll have to pin 1820 times at once a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if always on, you will be long in coffing watching its ceiling before hitting 75 ;D
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Why come off? That is what you guys all need to ask yourself. What is the purpose of coming off. What is your reason for wanting natural testosterone levels not enhanced ones. Do you want to have children? Are you going to be AAS tested by someone? Are you getting too much heat from the old lady/parents/whoever? WHY? If you do not have a good reason to come off, why put yourself through PCT just to cycle again? Sense it makes one.
As far as staying on for six months, I sure hope you plan on mixing up your compounds and total mg levels. If you want to stay on indefinately please understsand what blasting and cruising is and why it is the correct approach for long term continuous AAS use.
et's be clear about the purpose of the blast/cruise approach. During the blast, most gains come in the first 5-7 weeks. After that gains slow significantly unless the dose in increase A LOT (like going from 800mg to 2500mg). That slow down in gains is because the body has many feedback mechanisms that try to maintain homeostasis (the current status). You can make changes to your body but at some point the body says "this is not normal, enough of that."
The purpose of the cruise is to allow those negative feedback mechanisms to ramp down so that the body stops fighting any additional growth. Most of that is accomplished by lowering the dose of AAS. It can also help to take a week off of training. During a cruise you still take enough AAS (probably just test) that recovery of natural test production will NOT take place, so forget about that idea. Some people believe that drugs like anavar, proviron, or low dose dbol allow recovery of natural test production but I am skeptical about that. Don't count on it.
The dose during the cruise should be enough to enable you to hang on to most of your gains while allowing the negative feedback mechanisms to reset to allow for another growth spurt when doses are raised again. For many people, 200-300mg of test WK should work well for that. It also depends a little bit on the blasting dose. Someone who blasts on 500-1000mg total AAS, should cruise on 200mg. But someone who blasts on 2000-4000mg WK can probably cruise on 400-500mg.
In the end it all comes down to experimenting with your body and finding out what works for YOU. No advice anyone can give you can substitute for experimenting and carefully observing how your body responds. There is no "optimal" cruise dose that applies to everyone the same but the number I mentioned above is a good starting point for your own experimentation.
If you ARE going to try substances other than test I suggest really monitoring the total mg for blast compared to the total mg for cruise. There will be a particular ratio that works for you and may allow combining test with proviron or something else as long as the ratio is correct.
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Why come off? That is what you guys all need to ask yourself. What is the purpose of coming off. What is your reason for wanting natural testosterone levels not enhanced ones. Do you want to have children? Are you going to be AAS tested by someone? Are you getting too much heat from the old lady/parents/whoever? WHY? If you do not have a good reason to come off, why put yourself through PCT just to cycle again? Sense it makes one.
As far as staying on for six months, I sure hope you plan on mixing up your compounds and total mg levels. If you want to stay on indefinately please understsand what blasting and cruising is and why it is the correct approach for long term continuous AAS use.
et's be clear about the purpose of the blast/cruise approach. During the blast, most gains come in the first 5-7 weeks. After that gains slow significantly unless the dose in increase A LOT (like going from 800mg to 2500mg). That slow down in gains is because the body has many feedback mechanisms that try to maintain homeostasis (the current status). You can make changes to your body but at some point the body says "this is not normal, enough of that."
The purpose of the cruise is to allow those negative feedback mechanisms to ramp down so that the body stops fighting any additional growth. Most of that is accomplished by lowering the dose of AAS. It can also help to take a week off of training. During a cruise you still take enough AAS (probably just test) that recovery of natural test production will NOT take place, so forget about that idea. Some people believe that drugs like anavar, proviron, or low dose dbol allow recovery of natural test production but I am skeptical about that. Don't count on it.
The dose during the cruise should be enough to enable you to hang on to most of your gains while allowing the negative feedback mechanisms to reset to allow for another growth spurt when doses are raised again. For many people, 200-300mg of test WK should work well for that. It also depends a little bit on the blasting dose. Someone who blasts on 500-1000mg total AAS, should cruise on 200mg. But someone who blasts on 2000-4000mg WK can probably cruise on 400-500mg.
In the end it all comes down to experimenting with your body and finding out what works for YOU. No advice anyone can give you can substitute for experimenting and carefully observing how your body responds. There is no "optimal" cruise dose that applies to everyone the same but the number I mentioned above is a good starting point for your own experimentation.
If you ARE going to try substances other than test I suggest really monitoring the total mg for blast compared to the total mg for cruise. There will be a particular ratio that works for you and may allow combining test with proviron or something else as long as the ratio is correct.
Assuming an 8 week blast with long esters front loaded (double dose first week), how long should the cruise time be?
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Why come off? That is what you guys all need to ask yourself. What is the purpose of coming off. What is your reason for wanting natural testosterone levels not enhanced ones. Do you want to have children? Are you going to be AAS tested by someone? Are you getting too much heat from the old lady/parents/whoever? WHY? If you do not have a good reason to come off, why put yourself through PCT just to cycle again? Sense it makes one.
As far as staying on for six months, I sure hope you plan on mixing up your compounds and total mg levels. If you want to stay on indefinately please understsand what blasting and cruising is and why it is the correct approach for long term continuous AAS use.
et's be clear about the purpose of the blast/cruise approach. During the blast, most gains come in the first 5-7 weeks. After that gains slow significantly unless the dose in increase A LOT (like going from 800mg to 2500mg). That slow down in gains is because the body has many feedback mechanisms that try to maintain homeostasis (the current status). You can make changes to your body but at some point the body says "this is not normal, enough of that."
The purpose of the cruise is to allow those negative feedback mechanisms to ramp down so that the body stops fighting any additional growth. Most of that is accomplished by lowering the dose of AAS. It can also help to take a week off of training. During a cruise you still take enough AAS (probably just test) that recovery of natural test production will NOT take place, so forget about that idea. Some people believe that drugs like anavar, proviron, or low dose dbol allow recovery of natural test production but I am skeptical about that. Don't count on it.
The dose during the cruise should be enough to enable you to hang on to most of your gains while allowing the negative feedback mechanisms to reset to allow for another growth spurt when doses are raised again. For many people, 200-300mg of test WK should work well for that. It also depends a little bit on the blasting dose. Someone who blasts on 500-1000mg total AAS, should cruise on 200mg. But someone who blasts on 2000-4000mg WK can probably cruise on 400-500mg.
In the end it all comes down to experimenting with your body and finding out what works for YOU. No advice anyone can give you can substitute for experimenting and carefully observing how your body responds. There is no "optimal" cruise dose that applies to everyone the same but the number I mentioned above is a good starting point for your own experimentation.
If you ARE going to try substances other than test I suggest really monitoring the total mg for blast compared to the total mg for cruise. There will be a particular ratio that works for you and may allow combining test with proviron or something else as long as the ratio is correct.
Valiant serious question.
What if you are like 35 years old and you don't know if you want kids yet or not, but you don't want to totally rule it out.
In that situation what the longest time you think you can cycle for without fucking things up too much, is it time on = time off?
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Valiant serious question.
What if you are like 35 years old and you don't know if you want kids yet or not, but you don't want to totally rule it out.
In that situation what the longest time you think you can cycle for without fucking things up too much, is it time on = time off?
I would freeze some sperm if that was a concern.
No one can guarantee anything that will happen to your own body, I don't know why you guys even bother to ask.
As for the op, if you've recovered well in the past after cycling I would expect the same....but sometimes things do change as we get older. Personally, I would go ahead as planned and worry about tomorrow when and if it gets here.
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You should definitely tale time off. Body get used to drugs. You need to shock it for optimal results.
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I would personally say try to keep your cycles around 3 to 4 months long. And go off don't go on TRT. I would personally love to never have to deal with PCT. But also at the same time their is health risk's associated with it. Working out and getting in amazing shape with the help of steroids is definitely a amazing feeling. But going on TRT definitely turns working out and steroids into something you are forced to do and it can take away some of the joy of the sport. Basically I just look at it like is increasing all the health risks associated with steroids by going on TRT really worth it.
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Once i get on i will not ever come off. Will just cruise at 250mg for life.
Life with low natural test sucks
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Once i get on i will not ever come off. Will just cruise at 250mg for life.
Life with low natural test sucks
You have serious body image issues. Actually all the people here have.
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You have serious body image issues. Actually all the people here have.
its more for the quality of life than the looks. Believe me low naturall test is no fun.
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Once i get on i will not ever come off. Will just cruise at 250mg for life.
Life with low natural test sucks
I think that amount may put most people well above the high normal range. Its easy to say you'll be on 250mg a week forever now, but at some point the side effects may start outweighing the benefits. There's a reason why our bodies naturally decline in testosterone, messing around with it is likely to cause all sorts of problems to your prostate, heart, liver, lipids etc.
Are you on trt now?
Btw I came off after being on for 2 years, so my test levels should be near zero and I feel perfectly fine. Starting to look like crap but that's another issue. ;D
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I think that amount may put most people well above the high normal range. Its easy to say you'll be on 250mg a week forever now, but at some point the side effects may start outweighing the benefits. There's a reason why our bodies naturally decline in testosterone, messing around with it is likely to cause all sorts of problems to your prostate, heart, liver, lipids etc.
Are you on trt now?
Btw I came off after being on for 2 years, so my test levels should be near zero and I feel perfectly fine. Starting to look like crap but that's another issue. ;D
not yet on trt, going the self administration route and am just waiting on getting the test cyp before starting (was supposed to get it last weekend but got let down).
Maybe not at 250 for life but i know i never want the low test syptoms ever again, i feel like a bitch and a shadow of my former self.
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not yet on trt, going the self administration route and am just waiting on getting the test cyp before starting (was supposed to get it last weekend but got let down).
Maybe not at 250 for life but i know i never want the low test syptoms ever again, i feel like a bitch and a shadow of my former self.
Yeah this stuff is great but I wonder how the body reacts to it as we get older.
There's a few older guys here like primemuscle who are on trt....I'd like to hear his experiences with it.
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Yeah this stuff is great but I wonder how the body reacts to it as we get older.
There's a few older guys here like primemuscle who are on trt....I'd like to hear his experiences with it.
I am an older guy who never used AAS and am planning on doing my own TRT. I know a few that are on and like it fine. Most find that it doesn't always help with every damn thing that was wrong as you get older, but it does help. Some get more wood, some less. Some sleep better, some worse. Most of them aren't concerned or aren't informed about the longer term implications.
Curious, why did you decide to come off? Lifestyle change, or just a temp off?
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I am an older guy who never used AAS and am planning on doing my own TRT. I know a few that are on and like it fine. Most find that it doesn't always help with every damn thing that was wrong as you get older, but it does help. Some get more wood, some less. Some sleep better, some worse. Most of them aren't concerned or aren't informed about the longer term implications.
Curious, why did you decide to come off? Lifestyle change, or just a temp off?
Funny I didn't feel any increase in libido or better sleep either. Best thing about its it effects for me were in the gym.
And its a little stupid why I came off but I decided I wanted to stop being so vain. I have to know that I'm confident without the gear and the gym...regardless of what I look like. I've stopped eating so much protein and have even tried to stay away from the gym but that has been really hard.
Coming off can be a mind fuck but if you wanna know yourself you have to put yourself in these situations. You don't grow as a person by being awesome all the time. ;D
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Funny I didn't feel any increase in libido or better sleep either. Best thing about its it effects for me were in the gym.
And its a little stupid why I came off but I decided I wanted to stop being so vain. I have to know that I'm confident without the gear and the gym...regardless of what I look like. I've stopped eating so much protein and have even tried to stay away from the gym but that has been really hard.
Coming off can be a mind fuck but if you wanna know yourself you have to put yourself in these situations. You don't grow as a person by being awesome all the time. ;D
It's possible to not be vain and look good too. I am not sure of the overall value of letting one's health and looks slide, but if it's a "voyage of discovery", Godspeed.
We will welcome you back to the Iron Church in a few months. You can tell us how it went.
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It's possible to not be vain and look good too. I am not sure of the overall value of letting one's health and looks slide, but if it's a "voyage of discovery", Godspeed.
We will welcome you back to the Iron Church in a few months. You can tell us how it went.
Thanks for the good post.
I guess what I'm doing its just trying to find a good balance...
Haven't got bloods yet but I'm actually feeling a lot healthier now just training 2 x week, jumping rope, and eating a lot less protein. Oh and I'm still showering ;D
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Thanks for the good post.
I guess what I'm doing its just trying to find a good balance...
Haven't got bloods yet but I'm actually feeling a lot healthier now just training 2 x week, jumping rope, and eating a lot less protein. Oh and I'm still showering ;D
It was a struggle, but I was able to get myself down to 4x/week for working out. Feel a lot less beat up.
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It was a struggle, but I was able to get myself down to 4x/week for working out. Feel a lot less beat up.
When and if you get on you'll get away with more cheats and training more...or less.
I've always had the "anything worth doing is worth overdoing" mentality....bbing is a great outlet for that but better to overdo the training and diet than the drugs.
Drugs are great and I'm all for them but better to use them smart and tbh with you it feels good to know that you can live without them.
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Valiant serious question.
What if you are like 35 years old and you don't know if you want kids yet or not, but you don't want to totally rule it out.
In that situation what the longest time you think you can cycle for without fucking things up too much, is it time on = time off?
I would freeze sperm as suggested. If you are hell bent on maintaining some natural fertility I would cycle for ten weeks twice a year and do PCT after each cycle. I would also use HCG 250iu 2x per week ON cycle. When the big get preggers day comes get a sperm test. If its low you do an HMG and HCG blast and a nasty clomid run - that usually improves the count to succesfull levels.
35 and not sure? You're pretty sure.
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Yeah this stuff is great but I wonder how the body reacts to it as we get older.
There's a few older guys here like primemuscle who are on trt....I'd like to hear his experiences with it.
You are right that it's an unknown. There are studies saying test is bad for your heart, and studies saying it is actually good for your heart same with prostate problems.
The one thing I do know, and agree with Bass Generator with wholeheartedly, is that it is about basic quality of life for some. Nobody but my wife sees me naked or even partially naked. I look like shit. But feeling like you are living in the wrong body is terrible. And I don't mean this from a body dysmorphia viewpoint, but more feeling like you are living in your father's or grandfather's body. Other people your age are feeling energetic and getting things done, while you have a hard time lifting yourself off of the couch to shuffle to the toilet. People ten years older decide to start running and do okay, while you dread walking to the car because of extreme fatigue. That is why I'm taking HRT. I don't want to feel 18 again, I want to feel normal for my age. So I will never stop.
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You are right that it's an unknown. There are studies saying test is bad for your heart, and studies saying it is actually good for your heart same with prostate problems.
The one thing I do know, and agree with Bass Generator with wholeheartedly, is that it is about basic quality of life for some. Nobody but my wife sees me naked or even partially naked. I look like shit. But feeling like you are living in the wrong body is terrible. And I don't mean this from a body dysmorphia viewpoint, but more feeling like you are living in your father's or grandfather's body. Other people your age are feeling energetic and getting things done, while you have a hard time lifting yourself off of the couch to shuffle to the toilet. People ten years older decide to start running and do okay, while you dread walking to the car because of extreme fatigue. That is why I'm taking HRT. I don't want to feel 18 again, I want to feel normal for my age. So I will never stop.
You summed it up perfectly how it feels with low test. While my mates of the same age are out running, playing 5 aside football ect after work id be on the couch. Even if you did have the energy to desire to do anything over than get though the day is absolute zero.
Then theres the low mood ect.
Id rather die ten years earlier than go though life like that.
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200-250mgs test every week to ten days, I could even go every 2 weeks TBH.
I gain off that and am always in good shape.
I eat well and dont kill myself to stay in shape either.
I plan to stay on for life, my health is fine I have no health issues Im aware of, I never get colds or flu, people say I look young for my age.
Fuck it, if it goes tits up and I have a heart attack at 75 then so be it, saves me from wasting away with cancer getting kicked about in an old folks home.
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You summed it up perfectly how it feels with low test. While my mates of the same age are out running, playing 5 aside football ect after work id be on the couch. Even if you did have the energy to desire to do anything over than get though the day is absolute zero.
Then theres the low mood ect.
Id rather die ten years earlier than go though life like that.
One thing I have to tell you from personal experience (purely n=1). Yes, HRT has done wonders for me. I will never stop. However, for me there is a disconnect between the physical and mental effects. A bit hard to explain, but here goes.
I'm 40. Without the HRT my physical self felt at least 50. Now with the HRT (a bit more than normal, 325 mg/w) my body feels like 30. Wonderful! The strange thing for me is: my body feels younger, as in it can do much more. But the mental part has not changed as much. Mentally I don't feel 30 instead of 40, I feel 38 instead of 40. Sorry if it doesn't make sense, I even find it hard to verbalize it to myself.
Perhaps a manly car analogy will help. ;D I am suddenly driving a Ferrari body, but my mind keeps telling me to not step on the gas, because it still thinks I'm driving an old Fiat. I rationally know it is no longer true, but my subconscious keeps being too cautious. So I'm finding I have to force myself to step on the gas pedal, which in a sense is also fatiguing.
A real-life example is simple walking. Before starting HRT a 4 hour walk was possible, but only once per week. Now I do the same walk, and my mind will be telling me the next day that I can't do it again. But that's not true, because I CAN do it again the next day. My body is telling me: "go ahead!", while my mind is telling me "be careful, you are old!". So there is always that mental block for me to overcome. Possible, but that too takes willpower. The roids don't make you go out and do things, they allow you to go out and do things. Small but important difference.
Does any of this change my views on HRT? Not at all. I still highly recommend it. But just a heads up.
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One thing I have to tell you from personal experience (purely n=1). Yes, HRT has done wonders for me. I will never stop. However, for me there is a disconnect between the physical and mental effects. A bit hard to explain, but here goes.
I'm 40. Without the HRT my physical self felt at least 50. Now with the HRT (a bit more than normal, 325 mg/w) my body feels like 30. Wonderful! The strange thing for me is: my body feels younger, as in it can do much more. But the mental part has not changed as much. Mentally I don't feel 30 instead of 40, I feel 38 instead of 40. Sorry if it doesn't make sense, I even find it hard to verbalize it to myself.
Perhaps a manly car analogy will help. ;D I am suddenly driving a Ferrari body, but my mind keeps telling me to not step on the gas, because it still thinks I'm driving an old Fiat. I rationally know it is no longer true, but my subconscious keeps being too cautious. So I'm finding I have to force myself to step on the gas pedal, which in a sense is also fatiguing.
A real-life example is simple walking. Before starting HRT a 4 hour walk was possible, but only once per week. Now I do the same walk, and my mind will be telling me the next day that I can't do it again. But that's not true, because I CAN do it again the next day. My body is telling me: "go ahead!", while my mind is telling me "be careful, you are old!". So there is always that mental block for me to overcome. Possible, but that too takes willpower. The roids don't make you go out and do things, they allow you to go out and do things. Small but important difference.
Does any of this change my views on HRT? Not at all. I still highly recommend it. But just a heads up.
Great explanation of how the mind works...
Surely, living with abnormally low testosterone has its physical side effects. However, the hrt (for life) is a big step to take and personally, I would exhaust all other means in attempts to fix whatever is wrong without medication prior to going that route.
I know you guys are smarter to think that gear will magically fix everything but its exactly how the mind works. And once the novelty of the gear wears off you could just be back to square one or square negative 100 forcing to inject yourself, taking anti androgens, cholesterol meds, etc etc 10-15 years down the line.
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Great explanation of how the mind works...
Surely, living with abnormally low testosterone has its physical side effects. However, the hrt (for life) is a big step to take and personally, I would exhaust all other means in attempts to fix whatever is wrong without medication prior to going that route.
I know you guys are smarter to think that gear will magically fix everything but its exactly how the mind works. And once the novelty of the gear wears off you could just be back to square one or square negative 100 forcing to inject yourself, taking anti androgens, cholesterol meds, etc etc 10-15 years down the line.
Well I did give HCG solo a try before. It did do something, but not what I needed. My dick got even harder, but I was still lethargic like an old man. ::)
I agree that it is a slippery slope, and that the mental battle is really about finding the lowest acceptable dose. I have been experimenting, and I was already debating reducing my dose further. This morning I trained in a tank top. Something that never happens, it's just that every T shirt was in the laundry. Finally I saw what I looked like in the gym -- no mirrors at home. :D Mind was blown! Bodyweight is hard to keep down (which freaks me out as a former hippowhale), but it seems it really is all muscle gains.
Now there are two competing temptations: either up the dose and become fucking huge (going from current 220 to 280 Lbs or so), or cut down even further and get lean(er)&mean (cut from 220 to 190). Oddly enough the latter option sounds better to me in my old age. Twenty years ago I would have tried to outmass Fux. ;D
My HRT dosages since I started:
0-2 months: 250 mg test/week,
3-4 months: 250 mg test/week + 200 mg mast/week,
5-6 months: 125 mg test/week + 200 mg mast/week.
Looks like I will probably be going down to 125 mg test/week + 100 mg mast/week.
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On a side note: Seeing my low dosages, and comparing them to some of the recommendations I see here, either everyone is using fake gear or many people have no idea how to train and diet. I've seen people here come out and say "anything less than 500-600 mg of xyz/week is useless!". What gives? Just a mindset difference, or is European gear just much more reliable and dosed higher?
I really can't imagine what my results would be at a gram per week. Or the 2-6 grams I see some here use.
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Im the op, so I got started, doing 500mg week; on week 3 now.......already getting the boners and way more horny! Anxieity is up a lil also; I prolly stay with this for 3 full months then drop to 250 for 3 months, then 125 for cruising? Still not sure about that part.
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One thing I have to tell you from personal experience (purely n=1). Yes, HRT has done wonders for me. I will never stop. However, for me there is a disconnect between the physical and mental effects. A bit hard to explain, but here goes.
I'm 40. Without the HRT my physical self felt at least 50. Now with the HRT (a bit more than normal, 325 mg/w) my body feels like 30. Wonderful! The strange thing for me is: my body feels younger, as in it can do much more. But the mental part has not changed as much. Mentally I don't feel 30 instead of 40, I feel 38 instead of 40. Sorry if it doesn't make sense, I even find it hard to verbalize it to myself.
Perhaps a manly car analogy will help. ;D I am suddenly driving a Ferrari body, but my mind keeps telling me to not step on the gas, because it still thinks I'm driving an old Fiat. I rationally know it is no longer true, but my subconscious keeps being too cautious. So I'm finding I have to force myself to step on the gas pedal, which in a sense is also fatiguing.
A real-life example is simple walking. Before starting HRT a 4 hour walk was possible, but only once per week. Now I do the same walk, and my mind will be telling me the next day that I can't do it again. But that's not true, because I CAN do it again the next day. My body is telling me: "go ahead!", while my mind is telling me "be careful, you are old!". So there is always that mental block for me to overcome. Possible, but that too takes willpower. The roids don't make you go out and do things, they allow you to go out and do things. Small but important difference.
Does any of this change my views on HRT? Not at all. I still highly recommend it. But just a heads up.
good point, i think i was maybe over optimistic about the mental effects as i was convinced id hop back to the mindset i had at 19 or so. I do feel like i have more energy but i stil mentally cannot be bothered to do a lot of things.
On week 4 now and feel its finally getting going, feel literally buzzing with happyness, even at work which i used to hate, was on a roof taking a chimney down yesterday, the sun was out and it just felt amazing but cant explain why.
Libido up massiveley, went from having sex once a month to beating off 2 to 3 times a day, going to see ex tonite and am given the chance im going to absoutley destroy her whereas before i couldnt be bothered.
Its helping shift the fat in the stubborn areas that i couldnt shift despite practacally starving myself but with little effort its starting to dissapear.
I cant sing the praises of trt enough i feel like i have a new lease of life
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good point, i think i was maybe over optimistic about the mental effects as i was convinced id hop back to the mindset i had at 19 or so. I do feel like i have more energy but i stil mentally cannot be bothered to do a lot of things.
On week 4 now and feel its finally getting going, feel literally buzzing with happyness, even at work which i used to hate, was on a roof taking a chimney down yesterday, the sun was out and it just felt amazing but cant explain why.
Libido up massiveley, went from having sex once a month to beating off 2 to 3 times a day, going to see ex tonite and am given the chance im going to absoutley destroy her whereas before i couldnt be bothered.
Its helping shift the fat in the stubborn areas that i couldnt shift despite practacally starving myself but with little effort its starting to dissapear.
I cant sing the praises of trt enough i feel like i have a new lease of life
Good for you man. Enjoy the ride, I know I am. ;D
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Good for you man. Enjoy the ride, I know I am. ;D
thanks mate, best decision i made starting trt i wish i started years aho.