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Title: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 16, 2014, 07:52:15 PM
Source: Associated Press

Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
 | January 16, 2014 | Updated: January 16, 2014 6:53pm

another responsible gun owner  ::)

DETROIT (AP) — Detroit police say a 4-year-old girl accidentally shot a 4-year-old boy to death at a home on the city's west side.

Police Capt. Rodney Cox told WXYZ-TV that the shooting happened Thursday afternoon. Police say the girl and boy and a 5-year-old were playing in a bedroom and found the gun.

Cox also said an adult was in the home at the time, though it's not yet clear exactly where.

The Associated Press left a telephone message for Detroit police Thursday night seeking information.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Girl-4-fatally-shoots-boy-4-at-Detroit-home-5150531.php
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: tonymctones on January 16, 2014, 07:55:46 PM
well that proves it folks, the country would be better off without guns....lets ban them all
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 16, 2014, 08:01:37 PM
where does it say that,you making shit up again.oh what's new
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Shockwave on January 16, 2014, 08:02:42 PM
Kid should have respected other kids ah-thori-tah
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 16, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 17, 2014, 07:44:52 AM
Source: Associated Press

Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
 | January 16, 2014 | Updated: January 16, 2014 6:53pm

another responsible gun owner  ::)

DETROIT (AP) — Detroit police say a 4-year-old girl accidentally shot a 4-year-old boy to death at a home on the city's west side.

Police Capt. Rodney Cox told WXYZ-TV that the shooting happened Thursday afternoon. Police say the girl and boy and a 5-year-old were playing in a bedroom and found the gun.

Cox also said an adult was in the home at the time, though it's not yet clear exactly where.

The Associated Press left a telephone message for Detroit police Thursday night seeking information.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Girl-4-fatally-shoots-boy-4-at-Detroit-home-5150531.php


What is your point?
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 17, 2014, 08:02:26 AM
What is your point?

another responsible gun owner 
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: loco on January 17, 2014, 08:23:17 AM
another responsible gun owner 

"Three men were stabbed outside Sports Authority Field after a Broncos game last month."
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/01/12/stabbing-victims-banned-from-broncos-games/

Another responsible knife owner.    ::)

"Climber charged with killing friend with claw hammer in national park in Potomac, Md."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/climber-charged-with-killing-friend-with-claw-hammer-in-national-park-in-bethesda/2014/01/14/33cbc3f8-7d32-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

Another responsible hammer owner.   ::)

"Range Rover crashing through bikers"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438620/Shocking-video-Range-Rover-crashing-bikers-surround-vehicle-annual-street-ride.html

Another responsible Range Rover owner.   ::)
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 17, 2014, 08:41:45 AM
"Three men were stabbed outside Sports Authority Field after a Broncos game last month."
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/01/12/stabbing-victims-banned-from-broncos-games/

Another responsible knife owner.    ::)

"Climber charged with killing friend with claw hammer in national park in Potomac, Md."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/climber-charged-with-killing-friend-with-claw-hammer-in-national-park-in-bethesda/2014/01/14/33cbc3f8-7d32-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

Another responsible hammer owner.   ::)

"Range Rover crashing through bikers"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438620/Shocking-video-Range-Rover-crashing-bikers-surround-vehicle-annual-street-ride.html

Another responsible Range Rover owner.   ::)

your kidding right? your really not this stupid.you really don't see the difference between them. :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 17, 2014, 09:15:21 AM
your kidding right? your really not this stupid.you really don't see the difference between them. :D :D :D :D

There is no difference between them, idiot. He just owned you
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 17, 2014, 09:47:13 AM
There is no difference between them, idiot. He just owned you
hahahahah your as dumb as he is ,I owned you idiot :D :D :D :D :D

ok i'll take this slow so you can keep up,on the story I posted I wrote another responsible gun owner.now, if you read the article,and not just look at the pictures you'll see a moron gun owner left a gun where a 5 year old could have access to it and shoot another kid,now on the articles he posted it had nothing to do with a child and a irresponsible knife,hammer, and range rover owner leaving weapons around for a five year old to play with   
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2014, 10:01:09 AM
hahahahah your as dumb as he is ,I owned you idiot :D :D :D :D :D

ok i'll take this slow so you can keep up,on the story I posted I wrote another responsible gun owner.now, if you read the article,and not just look at the pictures you'll see a moron gun owner left a gun where a 5 year old could have access to it and shoot another kid,now on the articles he posted it had nothing to do with a child and a irresponsible knife,hammer, and range rover owner leaving weapons around for a five year old to play with   

If you're going to repeatedly call people dumb, perhaps you should learn to write better than an elementary school kid.  Just sayin . . . .
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 17, 2014, 10:03:41 AM
If you're going to repeatedly call people dumb, perhaps you should learn to write better than an elementary school kid.  Just sayin . . . .

really,when it comes down to it who gives a shit what you think. just sayin....
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2014, 10:06:57 AM
really,when it comes down to it who gives a shit what you think. just sayin....

I know you don't care, and that's fine.  Doesn't make the fact that you sound barely literate, yet constantly call people dumb, any less true. 
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 17, 2014, 10:11:17 AM
I know you don't care, and that's fine.  Doesn't make the fact that you sound barely literate, yet constantly call people dumb, any less true. 

then why bother responding,don't you have other shit to do like  police the thread titles to make sure there completely accurate  :D
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2014, 10:16:04 AM
then why bother responding,don't you have other shit to do like  police the thread titles to make sure there completely accurate  :D

I'm responding to tell you how ironic it is that you repeatedly call people dumb, when you sound like someone with a room temperature IQ.  I'm sure you could be intelligent in real life, but that's not the way you sound.  

And yes, I know you don't care that you write like a mentally retarded Canadian.  
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 17, 2014, 10:19:19 AM
I'm responding to tell you how ironic it is that you repeatedly call people dumb, when you sound like someone with a room temperature IQ.  I'm sure you could be intelligent in real life, but that's not the way you sound.  

And yes, I know you don't care that you write like a mentally retarded Canadian.  

you should know to stick to the topic of the thread,your post has nothing to do with the topic.police yourself
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 17, 2014, 10:20:01 AM
Ban this little troll.
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 17, 2014, 10:21:58 AM
Ban this little troll.

why because your wrong. ???
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: OzmO on January 17, 2014, 10:44:20 AM
Gun owner need to be charged here.  Negligence that led to the death of a child?

Aside from that.  Tragically irresponsible.
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2014, 10:48:36 AM
Gun owner need to be charged here.  Negligence that led to the death of a child?

Aside from that.  Tragically irresponsible.

Sounds like it, but I guess that depends on where the gun was?  Just says they were playing in the bedroom. 
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 17, 2014, 10:51:48 AM
Gun owner need to be charged here.  Negligence that led to the death of a child?

Aside from that.  Tragically irresponsible.

Clearly, but it has nothing to do with guns or gun ownership as a whole. Tons of kids die tragically every year drowning in the family pools, we dont see little liberal twinks like  blacken on here posting anti pool threads every time a kid drowns or anti car threads every time a kid gets smashed by a car while play in the street
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: OzmO on January 17, 2014, 10:54:13 AM
Sounds like it, but I guess that depends on where the gun was?  Just says they were playing in the bedroom. 

Does it?  I would think you should have a trigger lock or in a locked box.  Also why was the gun loaded or ammo accessible?
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: OzmO on January 17, 2014, 10:56:46 AM
Clearly, but it has nothing to do with guns or gun ownership as a whole. Tons of kids die tragically every year drowning in the family pools, we dont see little liberal twinks like  blacken on here posting anti pool threads every time a kid drowns or anti car threads every time a kid gets smashed by a car while play in the street

Totally agree.   
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2014, 11:00:14 AM
Does it?  I would think you should have a trigger lock or in a locked box.  Also why was the gun loaded or ammo accessible?

Yeah I think it matters.  Anyone who has a gun in the house for protection should have it loaded if it's going to be of much use.  An intruder isn't going to wait for someone to load a gun.  So the fact it might have been loaded doesn't mean much to me.

If there are little kids in the house, it shouldn't be accessible to them.  If it was loaded and easily accessible to four and five year old kids, then I agree that's a big problem.  
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: OzmO on January 17, 2014, 11:07:18 AM
Yeah I think it matters.  Anyone who has a gun in the house for protection should have it loaded if it's going to be of much use.  An intruder isn't going to wait for someone to load a gun.  So the fact it might have been loaded doesn't mean much to me.

If there are little kids in the house, it shouldn't be accessible to them.  If it was loaded and easily accessible to four and five year old kids, then I agree that's a big problem.  

That's true, not being loaded is an issue in the heat of the moment.  But even then, In my mind ( I don't own a gun), I am not likely to keep a loaded gun in the house with children.  It would be kept in a lock safe or box, maybe with a trigger lock.  I would beef the defense of the house  at the points of entry to allow time for me to get and load the gun.  Hopefully with a speed loader lol.  But i wouldn't take the chance under any circumstances to have a loaded gun in the house even if its in a safe with kids present.
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2014, 11:11:23 AM
That's true, not being loaded is an issue in the heat of the moment.  But even then, In my mind ( I don't own a gun), I am not likely to keep a loaded gun in the house with children.  It would be kept in a lock safe or box, maybe with a trigger lock.  I would beef the defense of the house  at the points of entry to allow time for me to get and load the gun.  Hopefully with a speed loader lol.  But i wouldn't take the chance under any circumstances to have a loaded gun in the house even if its in a safe with kids present.

I agree.  That's why I never owned a gun when my kids were small.  Keeping it unloaded and locked up in a closet somewhere makes it somewhat useless as a self defense tool.  Keeping it loaded and easily accessible makes it too dangerous for young kids. 
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 17, 2014, 12:35:25 PM
they make gun boxes that hold a gun and a couple clips,has a 4 digit code.leaving a loaded gun in a desk or draw is just stupid
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 17, 2014, 12:44:33 PM
It is stupid if you have kids running around, yes. Otherwise no. That said, you do realize that its kind of dumb to generalize all legal gun owners the way you do, being that the vast, vast majority are actually quite careful, responsible people? Criticising gun ownership (80 million strong) for the occasional dumbass is like saying no one should own cars because occasionally a kid gets the keys to one and runs someone over.
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 17, 2014, 01:06:50 PM
For 80 bucks you can own a box i can get into the box as fast as you can your gun out of your draw stupid not to have one
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2014, 01:08:46 PM
It is stupid if you have kids running around, yes. Otherwise no. That said, you do realize that its kind of dumb to generalize all legal gun owners the way you do, being that the vast, vast majority are actually quite careful, responsible people? Criticising gun ownership (80 million strong) for the occasional dumbass is like saying no one should own cars because occasionally a kid gets the keys to one and runs someone over.

Good point.
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: tonymctones on January 17, 2014, 04:51:06 PM
For 80 bucks you can own a box i can get into the box as fast as you can your gun out of your draw stupid not to have one
sure you can boss, if youve ever played with one of those you would know youre full of shit but thats ok weve known that since the moment you opened your mouth on the subject of guns and gun ownership so......
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 18, 2014, 06:50:39 AM
this coming from a guy that has to come on a body building site and tell people he.s a judo champ to show how tough he is   :D :D priceless ,and those boxes are very easy and fast to access
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Skip8282 on January 18, 2014, 07:08:19 AM
For 80 bucks you can own a box i can get into the box as fast as you can your gun out of your draw stupid not to have one


::)

We'll chalk this one up with Jag claiming the laws of physics on Jupiter are different than the laws of physics on earth.

Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 18, 2014, 07:19:31 AM

::)

We'll chalk this one up with Jag claiming the laws of physics on Jupiter are different than the laws of physics on earth.



do you own one or are you just talking out your ass as usual . :D how about them steelers another year of sucking ;D
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Skip8282 on January 18, 2014, 07:23:39 AM
do you own one or are you just talking out your ass as usual . :D how about them steelers another year of sucking ;D


Yes, all of my guns are locked up save the one.

I'm in mourning over the Steelers and I hate the *&**& Patriots.  But, NE is always a well coached team.

Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 18, 2014, 07:26:49 AM

Yes, all of my guns are locked up save the one.

I'm in mourning over the Steelers and I hate the *&**& Patriots.  But, NE is always a well coached team.



I agree best coach in the nfl .just can't see having a loaded gun not protected,accident waiting to happen
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: tonymctones on January 18, 2014, 01:46:31 PM
this coming from a guy that has to come on a body building site and tell people he.s a judo champ to show how tough he is   :D :D priceless ,and those boxes are very easy and fast to access
haha this coming from the faceless gimmick who doesnt lift on a bodybuilding site...

those boxes are easy to get into, especially when you arent in a hurry and under pressure...

You shouldnt have a loaded gun around children who havent been taught to respect them and you dont trust. I grew up around guns and never went around with my brother and played with them ::)

Your opinion is pretty moot though as a person you dont own a gun and probably have never shot one so...
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: blacken700 on January 18, 2014, 02:30:26 PM
haha this coming from the faceless gimmick who doesnt lift on a bodybuilding site...

those boxes are easy to get into, especially when you arent in a hurry and under pressure...

You shouldnt have a loaded gun around children who havent been taught to respect them and you dont trust. I grew up around guns and never went around with my brother and played with them ::)

Your opinion is pretty moot though as a person you dont own a gun and probably have never shot one so...

at lease I don't come on here and trying to impress people I don't know by telling them I'm a judo champ  :D :D :D let me guess when you were 10 you use to tell kids my father is bigger than your father :D leaving a loaded gun unattended is fucking stupid it's that simple.but you are pretty fuckin stupid
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: 24KT on January 18, 2014, 02:31:10 PM
I'm responding to tell you how ironic it is that you repeatedly call people dumb, when you sound like someone with a room temperature IQ.  I'm sure you could be intelligent in real life, but that's not the way you sound.  

And yes, I know you don't care that you write like a mentally retarded Canadian.  

Calling an American a "mentally retarded Canadian" is no insult to the American.
If anything, ...it's quite the compliment. Everyone knows that even the stupidest Canadian is by far,
heads & shoulders above even the most intelligent American. When you want Smarties ...look to Canadians!  :P
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: 24KT on January 18, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
Yeah I think it matters.  Anyone who has a gun in the house for protection should have it loaded if it's going to be of much use.  An intruder isn't going to wait for someone to load a gun.  So the fact it might have been loaded doesn't mean much to me.

If there are little kids in the house, it shouldn't be accessible to them.  If it was loaded and easily accessible to four and five year old kids, then I agree that's a big problem.  

What do you mean "if there are little kids in the house" or "if it was loaded and easily accessible to four and five year old kids" ?

There is no IF!

There WERE little kids in the house

The gun WAS loaded and easily accessible to four year olds.

You make it appear like these FACTS are in dispute. They are not.

Or is your premise the bedroom was in a shed outside? That adults somehow magically morphed into 4 year olds, and these little tykes managed to crack open or pick the lock on a secure lockbox, retrieve both gun and ammunition, ...and load the gun themselves? Your conditional statements make you appear like a very retarded American.
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: 24KT on January 18, 2014, 02:48:29 PM

::)

We'll chalk this one up with Jag claiming the laws of physics on Jupiter are different than the laws of physics on earth.



Excuse me?! Please refresh my memory here. This is not something I recall.
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: tonymctones on January 18, 2014, 05:24:18 PM
at lease I don't come on here and trying to impress people I don't know by telling them I'm a judo champ  :D :D :D let me guess when you were 10 you use to tell kids my father is bigger than your father :D leaving a loaded gun unattended is fucking stupid it's that simple.but you are pretty fuckin stupid
hahaha impress ppl?

nice try boss but it wasnt to impress ppl ::)
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Shockwave on January 18, 2014, 07:05:09 PM
Calling an American a "mentally retarded Canadian" is no insult to the American.
If anything, ...it's quite the compliment. Everyone knows that even the stupidest Canadian is by far,
heads & shoulders above even the most intelligent American. When you want Smarties ...look to Canadians!  :P
haha, youre such a pretentious derp of a woman.
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: 24KT on January 18, 2014, 07:12:29 PM
haha, youre such a pretentious derp of a woman.

I suppose I could choose to be insulted if I knew what a derp was. What's a derp?
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: OzmO on January 18, 2014, 09:14:34 PM
Lmao
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: 24KT on January 19, 2014, 10:01:26 AM
Lmao

ROTFLMAO... ok, I confess... I had to google it.

The first definition was so/so... but the 2nd definition was BRUTAL!  ;D

derp

Web definitions

To act stupid or foolish; To make a stupid mistake; To point in different directions; (of a person) To have a facial expression with one's eyes pointing in different directions; Draws attention to an act of foolishness or stupidity; placeholder for unimportant details, blah blah blah

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/derp



derp

As used to describe a person who acts like, well....like a Dumb Egotistical Retrograde Prick.
Give 'em a hammer. They'll do the rest.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?page=2&term=derp
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: 24KT on January 19, 2014, 10:08:05 AM
haha, youre such a pretentious derp of a woman.

So you think I'm a derp... {sigh}  that's ok, my life will still go on... and in fabulous style too.  :P
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Dos Equis on January 20, 2014, 10:39:01 AM
Calling an American a "mentally retarded Canadian" is no insult to the American.
If anything, ...it's quite the compliment. Everyone knows that even the stupidest Canadian is by far,
heads & shoulders above even the most intelligent American. When you want Smarties ...look to Canadians!  :P

I know some very smart, friendly Canadians.  You're not one of them. 
Title: Re: Girl, 4, fatally shoots boy, 4, at Detroit home
Post by: Dos Equis on January 20, 2014, 10:40:29 AM
What do you mean "if there are little kids in the house" or "if it was loaded and easily accessible to four and five year old kids" ?

There is no IF!

There WERE little kids in the house

The gun WAS loaded and easily accessible to four year olds.

You make it appear like these FACTS are in dispute. They are not.

Or is your premise the bedroom was in a shed outside? That adults somehow magically morphed into 4 year olds, and these little tykes managed to crack open or pick the lock on a secure lockbox, retrieve both gun and ammunition, ...and load the gun themselves? Your conditional statements make you appear like a very retarded American.

I don't know all the facts.  I read a couple paragraphs of a news story.  Unlike you, I don't just fiat out make stuff up.