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Title: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 17, 2014, 08:31:06 AM
Ok Get Big doctors.

I was at the doc last week and my blood work came back high levels of protein in the kidneys.
The chick that called with the results says the doctor wants me to come back in and retest in a week and maybe see a kidney guy.
What causes high protein leves in the kidneys? Mine were at 1.5.
Is is this because I'm a beast and eat shit loads of flesh and am a animal in the gym?
Or have I been cracking one off too many times a day. (I'm not stopping)
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 17, 2014, 08:35:40 AM
Ok Get Big doctors.

I was at the doc last week and my blood work came back high levels of protein in the kidneys.
The chick that called with the results says the doctor wants me to come back in and retest in a week and maybe see a kidney guy.
What causes high protein leves in the kidneys? Mine were at 1.5.
Is is this because I'm a beast and eat shit loads of flesh and am a animal in the gym?
Or have I been cracking one off too many times a day. (I'm not stopping)

Nothing to do with the amount of protein you eat, has to do with your kidneys not being able to process it correctly. Two main causes are hypertension (high blood pressure) or diabetes.  Did they test you for either?  Are you on blood pressure meds? Push your doc to test your blood pressure and run a pre diabetes test.

Some findings are diet sodas, primarily aspartame kills your kidney.  bodybuilders drink a lot when dieting to avoid sugars but don't realize how toxic they are.  Also go buy some Cystone or Uriprotect himalaya and start taking it.  Drink water.

Kidneys are not something you want to fuck with if you don't want to end up like Derek Anthony.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Anabol on January 17, 2014, 08:37:09 AM
Hmmm. Stop that shit with sucking cocks and swollowing sperm, as your mother told you allready.
You will notice, that your protein level will drop to normal.
 ;D
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Mr. MB on January 17, 2014, 08:38:45 AM
Hydrate with pure water. The kidneys have a tissue around them like a screen door. Excess protein clogs them. Water flushes them. Caffeine drinks and alcohol dehydrate you. Avoid like the plague for a week, drink that xtra (and I mean XTRA) water and demand to retake the test. Odds are 10-1 you were/are dehydrated. You should pass with flying colors. If not….kidney specialist.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Hulkotron on January 17, 2014, 08:42:20 AM
Crack a few off, should take care of the problem.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Mr. MB on January 17, 2014, 08:52:49 AM
Also I assume Doc did your BP and did a BUN test along with the kidney markers. A high BUN shows dehydration (among other things). Most Bodybuilders have a high BUN.

A lot of Bodybuilders (incl. moi for over 20 years) do the fire/ice approach. They push mother nature to the brink. On one hand copius amounts of protein, PEDs, and on the other take baby asprin, super hydrate, quarterly Doc visits/blood tests and donate blood every 6 weeks.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 17, 2014, 08:57:31 AM
I normally drink about a gallon of water a day. I don't drink sodas very offten.

I was getting over the flu so I am sure I was dehydrated.

Thanks for all the input and no I do not want to end up like D.A.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 17, 2014, 08:59:47 AM
I normally drink about a gallon of water a day. I don't drink sodas very offten.

I was getting over the flu so I am sure I was dehydrated.

Thanks for all the input and no I do not want to end up like D.A.

what about your BP?  Hypertension?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 17, 2014, 09:08:40 AM
what about your BP?  Hypertension?

Normal
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 17, 2014, 09:09:29 AM
Eat less meat/animal based protein(dont worry you won't 'shrink'), eat quality foods and keep drinking water and it should fix the problem
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 17, 2014, 09:12:22 AM
Eat less meat/animal based protein(dont worry you won't 'shrink'), eat quality foods and keep drinking water and it should fix the problem

No more shakes?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 17, 2014, 09:21:57 AM
Also don't count out your iron levels. High iron levels in the liver can effect the kidneys...A lot of people have to give blood to keep iron levels in check....
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Mawse on January 17, 2014, 09:24:10 AM
Protein in the blood or in the urine? Anything more than trace in urine means either some old jizz got in the sample (don't knock one out n hour before a piss test) or You're Fucked.

High blood levels, eGfr etc is just diet and training etc
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 17, 2014, 09:28:42 AM
Protein in the blood or in the urine? Anything more than trace in urine means either some old jizz got in the sample (don't knock one out n hour before a piss test) or You're Fucked.

High blood levels, eGfr etc is just diet and training etc

It was a blood test not urine.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 17, 2014, 09:37:20 AM
No more shakes?

Shakes are fine just stick to ones without tons of artificial/mysterious ingredients. If ur kidneys are not in good shape tho it is definitely not a good idea to eat huge amounts of proteins. You really dont need tons of it anyway
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Anabol on January 17, 2014, 10:11:42 AM
It was a blood test not urine.

Consult with TBombz, did he had high level of protein ?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 17, 2014, 04:10:12 PM
Ok Get Big doctors.

I was at the doc last week and my blood work came back high levels of protein in the kidneys.
The chick that called with the results says the doctor wants me to come back in and retest in a week and maybe see a kidney guy.
What causes high protein leves in the kidneys? Mine were at 1.5.
Is is this because I'm a beast and eat shit loads of flesh and am a animal in the gym?
Or have I been cracking one off too many times a day. (I'm not stopping)

Karl I am a kidney specialist. High protein is not the result of high protein diets. You likely have a disease called a glomerulonephritis. I suspect being on GB that you have used anabolics at some point in your life, if not actively. Anabolic steroids are associated with a disease called FSGS or focal segmental glomerulosclerosis. Proteinuria causes intrinsic inflammation in your kidneys and can lead to renal failure and dialysis in five years or less. I recommend you ask for a nephrology referral ASAP and cut out anabolics if you are using. Stop all NSAIDs like Advil, Motrin, or Aleve. If you smoke, quit immediately. I hope all goes well. You may need a renal biopsy if the renal specialist evaluates you and feels it is appropriate. Hope all is well...peace.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 17, 2014, 04:13:47 PM
Ok Get Big doctors.

I was at the doc last week and my blood work came back high levels of protein in the kidneys.
The chick that called with the results says the doctor wants me to come back in and retest in a week and maybe see a kidney guy.
What causes high protein leves in the kidneys? Mine were at 1.5.
Is is this because I'm a beast and eat shit loads of flesh and am a animal in the gym?
Or have I been cracking one off too many times a day. (I'm not stopping)

Karl,

bloodwork cannot tell you that you have protein in your kidneys (ie urine). It may show hypoalbuminemia or low serum albumin, for which a glomerulonephritis can be culprit. Hope that helps. A physician can do a test called a spot urine protein to spot urine creatinine to determine an approximate amount of protein being spilled in the kidneys. Stay strong and get a referral ASAP. Family medicine docs are amateurs in kidney disease and you need a renal specialist. If you live in FL let me know and I will try to help you out.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 17, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
Karl I am a kidney specialist. High protein is not the result of high protein diets. You likely have a disease called a glomerulonephritis. I suspect being on GB that you have used anabolics at some point in your life, if not actively. Anabolic steroids are associated with a disease called FSGS or focal segmental glomerulosclerosis. Proteinuria causes intrinsic inflammation in your kidneys and can lead to renal failure and dialysis in five years or less. I recommend you ask for a nephrology referral ASAP and cut out anabolics if you are using. Stop all NSAIDs like Advil, Motrin, or Aleve. If you smoke, quit immediately. I hope all goes well. You may need a renal biopsy if the renal specialist evaluates you and feels it is appropriate. Hope all is well...peace.

Maybe I misunderstood what she was saying. But I thought she said protein. What ever is was I remember her saying the level was 1.5.  I have used pro hormones in the past but not since 2010.  Curently the only thing I take is a Pre workout or creatine from time to time.  When I was 21 I had a kidney stone if that tells you anything.  I didn't do urine only blood. What would have come back on that test?  They want me to come back in to retake the blood test. Should I ? Or should I just try to see a kidney specialist ? I'm in Dallas BTW.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: galeniko on January 17, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
my goodnes karl listen closely when asking doctor stuff.

bloodtest cant establish those parameters you claim.

you dont even have the unit for your 1.5 parameter.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 17, 2014, 07:44:43 PM
my goodnes karl listen closely when asking doctor stuff.

bloodtest cant establish those parameters you claim.

you dont even have the unit for your 1.5 parameter.


Part of the problem was it wasn't the doctor that called me it was some receptionist or some shit. It's still no excuse your right.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 17, 2014, 08:32:18 PM
Karl I am a kidney specialist. High protein is not the result of high protein diets. You likely have a disease called a glomerulonephritis. I suspect being on GB that you have used anabolics at some point in your life, if not actively. Anabolic steroids are associated with a disease called FSGS or focal segmental glomerulosclerosis. Proteinuria causes intrinsic inflammation in your kidneys and can lead to renal failure and dialysis in five years or less. I recommend you ask for a nephrology referral ASAP and cut out anabolics if you are using. Stop all NSAIDs like Advil, Motrin, or Aleve. If you smoke, quit immediately. I hope all goes well. You may need a renal biopsy if the renal specialist evaluates you and feels it is appropriate. Hope all is well...peace.

Also I had the flu prior to this.  I was on antibiotics and the doc had me taking 4 ibprophen every 4 hrs until my fever broke. Could that elevate those levels?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: ZOD on January 17, 2014, 08:34:34 PM
r.i.p.

i'll crack one off in your honor.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 17, 2014, 08:42:01 PM
r.i.p.

i'll crack one off in your honor.


Awesome
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 17, 2014, 08:51:05 PM
Ok....what the FUCK.

I got out of the hospital on Dec27th.  I was severely ill with a throat infection. Bedridden for three weeks..missed work etc....I just didn't tell anyone or ask for money . ;)

While I was there I requested a urine test and the Protien came back + 25.  The doctor said I'm fine and have nothing to worry about.  Is he an asshole ?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Ropo on January 17, 2014, 11:12:03 PM
Ok Get Big doctors.

I was at the doc last week and my blood work came back high levels of protein in the kidneys.
The chick that called with the results says the doctor wants me to come back in and retest in a week and maybe see a kidney guy.
What causes high protein leves in the kidneys? Mine were at 1.5.
Is is this because I'm a beast and eat shit loads of flesh and am a animal in the gym?
Or have I been cracking one off too many times a day. (I'm not stopping)

You didn't tell how much protein you intake per day. If you eat like average person, that maybe is some random error, you have run just before etc. If you consume tons of protein and overdo it like a moron, just start to look for organ donor.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 18, 2014, 01:01:19 AM
Also I had the flu prior to this.  I was on antibiotics and the doc had me taking 4 ibprophen every 4 hrs until my fever broke. Could that elevate those levels?

I suspect she was talking about your creatinine, normal range usually 0.8 to 1.3 or so depending on the lab. Here is the deal, if you a big MOFO who is muscular and a urine study shows no protein or blood you are good to go. Creatinine is formed from the break down of creatine phosphokinase which is the energy source for your muscles. If you had the flu and work out hard I bet you that your renal function is essentially normal. Once again if any questions I would ask for a renal consultation as most GP's are twits with their heads up their asses.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 18, 2014, 01:05:15 AM
Ok....what the FUCK.

I got out of the hospital on Dec27th.  I was severely ill with a throat infection. Bedridden for three weeks..missed work etc....I just didn't tell anyone or ask for money . ;)

While I was there I requested a urine test and the Protien came back + 25.  The doctor said I'm fine and have nothing to worry about.  Is he an asshole ?

Groink wait a few weeks and get a repeat BMP and UA. If protein persists then for your longterm health get a consultation with a kidney specialist. I have started two bodybuilders on dialysis this past year and it turns out they high levels of protein for years from their AS abuse. Moreover, they abused NSAIDs like ibuprofren. Be proactive with your health. To the average GP, you are a 75 buck ten minute office visit who they need to move thru and out to get to the next one. Sorry, that is the state of medicine these days.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 18, 2014, 04:47:32 AM
I suspect she was talking about your creatinine, normal range usually 0.8 to 1.3 or so depending on the lab. Here is the deal, if you a big MOFO who is muscular and a urine study shows no protein or blood you are good to go. Creatinine is formed from the break down of creatine phosphokinase which is the energy source for your muscles. If you had the flu and work out hard I bet you that your renal function is essentially normal. Once again if any questions I would ask for a renal consultation as most GP's are twits with their heads up their asses.

Thanks for you help man. Do you think I should go back and let them do test again or do you think I should just go to a specialist?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: galeniko on January 18, 2014, 05:35:27 AM
uh.oh.

this is kinda what i thought.

if getbiggers or just lifitng ppl who use bit suplements here and there, if they do go and have bloodwork done, the results in some parameters will be suprising ,if not a bit shocking.

this is why i always try to say, do the bloodwork.

nico will agree with me, as long theres no protein in the urine, youre still good to go.if theres protein in the urine, you are fucked.

if the kidneys shrink in size, you are fucked.

avoid pain meds when on supplemetns.

only eat as much protein as is needed,get a feel for that.

@karlcox, love you brother, yah now it makes sense,lol a useless clerk girl talked the numbers with you.

but didnt you get a printed sheet with results?

Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Marty Champions on January 18, 2014, 05:53:05 AM
Nothing to do with the amount of protein you eat, has to do with your kidneys not being able to process it correctly. Derek Anthony.

hmm i bet derek anthony avoided sugars too look where it took him

and hmm i guess eating meat has nothing to do with how your kidneys function
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Marty Champions on January 18, 2014, 05:54:44 AM
Ok....what the FUCK.

I got out of the hospital on Dec27th.  I was severely ill with a throat infection. Bedridden for three weeks..missed work etc....I just didn't tell anyone or ask for money . ;)

While I was there I requested a urine test and the Protien came back + 25.  The doctor said I'm fine and have nothing to worry about.  Is he an asshole ?

anything in the throat is due to tonsils wich are an immune nodule , clean up your diet
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 18, 2014, 06:01:46 AM
uh.oh.

this is kinda what i thought.

if getbiggers or just lifitng ppl who use bit suplements here and there, if they do go and have bloodwork done, the results in some parameters will be suprising ,if not a bit shocking.

this is why i always try to say, do the bloodwork.

nico will agree with me, as long theres no protein in the urine, youre still good to go.if theres protein in the urine, you are fucked.

if the kidneys shrink in size, you are fucked.

avoid pain meds when on supplemetns.

only eat as much protein as is needed,get a feel for that.

@karlcox, love you brother, yah now it makes sense,lol a useless clerk girl talked the numbers with you.

but didnt you get a printed sheet with results?



No because I got my results over the phone. I travel for work and will just get back in town today.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Necrosis on January 18, 2014, 06:19:00 AM
I suspect she was talking about your creatinine, normal range usually 0.8 to 1.3 or so depending on the lab. Here is the deal, if you a big MOFO who is muscular and a urine study shows no protein or blood you are good to go. Creatinine is formed from the break down of creatine phosphokinase which is the energy source for your muscles. If you had the flu and work out hard I bet you that your renal function is essentially normal. Once again if any questions I would ask for a renal consultation as most GP's are twits with their heads up their asses.

CK is an enzyme you moron, it does not break down, it acts as a catalytic in creatine metabolism.

Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 18, 2014, 04:38:58 PM
Thanks for you help man. Do you think I should go back and let them do test again or do you think I should just go to a specialist?

Get a repeat Basic Metabolic Panel and UA in a couple of weeks after you have adequately hydrated. Cut out Creatine monohydrate or excessive protein diets. Get the labs back. Let me know by PM.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 18, 2014, 04:43:35 PM
CK is an enzyme you moron, it does not break down, it acts as a catalytic in creatine metabolism.



Sorry necrosis, I meant creatine phosphate which is the energy source for muscles. Creatinine is derived from this. BTW dipshit, who are you to call me a moron. I misspoke. Big deal. You sound like an insecure asswad.

I know the creatine kinase is found in brain, heart, and muscle tissue. I was in a rush.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 18, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
Get a repeat Basic Metabolic Panel and UA in a couple of weeks after you have adequately hydrated. Cut out Creatine monohydrate or excessive protein diets. Get the labs back. Let me know by PM.

Will do. Thanks.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 18, 2014, 06:44:59 PM
Karl,

bloodwork cannot tell you that you have protein in your kidneys (ie urine). It may show hypoalbuminemia or low serum albumin, for which a glomerulonephritis can be culprit. Hope that helps. A physician can do a test called a spot urine protein to spot urine creatinine to determine an approximate amount of protein being spilled in the kidneys. Stay strong and get a referral ASAP. Family medicine docs are amateurs in kidney disease and you need a renal specialist. If you live in FL let me know and I will try to help you out.

^^^ Exactly.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: arce1988 on January 18, 2014, 09:58:57 PM
kidney problems suck






worst pain in my entire life
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Necrosis on January 19, 2014, 04:57:56 AM
Sorry necrosis, I meant creatine phosphate which is the energy source for muscles. Creatinine is derived from this. BTW dipshit, who are you to call me a moron. I misspoke. Big deal. You sound like an insecure asswad.

I know the creatine kinase is found in brain, heart, and muscle tissue. I was in a rush.

Calm down pumpkin, I was trolling you. I know more about medicine then you and I thought I would correct you.

Just making sure the resident kidney expert isn't giving out shit advice.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 19, 2014, 06:27:41 AM
Calm down pumpkin, I was trolling you. I know more about medicine then you and I thought I would correct you.

Just making sure the resident kidney expert isn't giving out shit advice.

Really, you do??? Are you double board certified dipshit. I make one mistake and you troll on me. I figure you get your medical knowledge from wiki  ::) ::)
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Necrosis on January 19, 2014, 07:03:56 AM
Really, you do??? Are you double board certified dipshit. I make one mistake and you troll on me. I figure you get your medical knowledge from wiki  ::) ::)

I am medicine incarnate
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 20, 2014, 11:22:38 AM
I just went back to the doc. It was creatinine level that was 1.5. I asked the to test my pee pee it came back normal. I'll get my blood work back tomorrow. My finger stick was 82.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: galeniko on January 20, 2014, 11:50:39 AM
I just went back to the doc. It was creatinine level that was 1.5. I asked the to test my pee pee it came back normal. I'll get my blood work back tomorrow. My finger stick was 82.
oh well,all good, see? 8)

creatinine will be up for studs like us 8)

how was urea?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 20, 2014, 02:42:19 PM
oh well,all good, see? 8)

creatinine will be up for studs like us 8)

how was urea?

One the first test 18.  

Won't have the blood work done today until tomorrow.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Marty Champions on January 20, 2014, 03:19:07 PM
WHat are you karl kocks a dumbass? you need to be eating MORE MEAT for those kidneys if you want a better life cut your sugars down to zero and triple your meat intake



Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 20, 2014, 03:56:06 PM
WHat are you karl kocks a dumbass? you need to be eating MORE MEAT for those kidneys if you want a better life cut your sugars down to zero and triple your meat intake





Duh. Everyone knows I'm a dumb ass.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: pellius on January 21, 2014, 01:56:11 AM
I just went back to the doc. It was creatinine level that was 1.5. I asked the to test my pee pee it came back normal. I'll get my blood work back tomorrow. My finger stick was 82.

That's good news. The gfr calculator depends on creatinine levels and age. Also, if you're Black your calculation is adjusted because Blacks tend to carry more muscle mass. So something to keep in mind for the few that actually work out here and carries above average muscle mass. 

http://www.davita.com/gfr-calculator/index.cfm?gclid=CPaamMX_jrwCFas9QgodWUoASw
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 21, 2014, 07:24:13 AM
Karl I am a kidney specialist. High protein is not the result of high protein diets. You likely have a disease called a glomerulonephritis. I suspect being on GB that you have used anabolics at some point in your life, if not actively. Anabolic steroids are associated with a disease called FSGS or focal segmental glomerulosclerosis. Proteinuria causes intrinsic inflammation in your kidneys and can lead to renal failure and dialysis in five years or less. I recommend you ask for a nephrology referral ASAP and cut out anabolics if you are using. Stop all NSAIDs like Advil, Motrin, or Aleve. If you smoke, quit immediately. I hope all goes well. You may need a renal biopsy if the renal specialist evaluates you and feels it is appropriate. Hope all is well...peace.

I don't think he has glomerulonephritis.  His urine would otherwise be super dark and he would be urinating a lot less, sometimes once a day to not all at for a day or so.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 21, 2014, 12:02:32 PM
As soon as I get the results from my blood work back I'll let y'all know. My urine is very very light yellow. On my urine test yesterday under color is said straw. I drink at leaset a gallon a day. I drink maybe one soda a month and don't drink alcohol.  I really do try and take pretty goog care of myself. The only thing I'm kinda worried about is the sups I've taken.  I know they can be hard on the kidneys.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 21, 2014, 04:16:52 PM
I don't think he has glomerulonephritis.  His urine would otherwise be super dark and he would be urinating a lot less, sometimes once a day to not all at for a day or so.

FSGS is not technically a GN. A nephritis I agree with you about but the urine usually has RBC casts and non-nephrotic range proteinuria (usually less than 1 gram protein daily). FSGS is associated with nephrotic range proteinuria (>3.5 grams) and the urine quantity can be normal but foamy.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Marty Champions on January 21, 2014, 04:20:09 PM
technically its faggitkneolnlopolishemei ronoplyietis wich makes your kidneys gay
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 21, 2014, 06:42:27 PM
technically its faggitkneolnlopolishemei ronoplyietis wich makes your kidneys gay

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Spike on January 21, 2014, 06:47:07 PM
so palumbo killed DA?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: galeniko on January 21, 2014, 06:48:44 PM
FSGS is not technically a GN. A nephritis I agree with you about but the urine usually has RBC casts and non-nephrotic range proteinuria (usually less than 1 gram protein daily). FSGS is associated with nephrotic range proteinuria (>3.5 grams) and the urine quantity can be normal but foamy.
is foamy piss always a bad sign? :D
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2014, 07:24:06 PM
No more shakes?

Protein drinks are usually made from dairy products and sometimes soy, but not meat. Just remember to moderate your diet, whether it's protein drinks or thick juicy steaks. Everyone's body needs protein. A good mix of plant and meat based proteins is fine for most people. Vegetarians do fine too. There are some vegetarian bodybuilders who look great. Most tend to be fairly lean by comparison to those who are not vegetarian.

My wife has severe kidney problems. Her nephrologists recommended limiting the quantity of red meat in her diet. Incidentally, her kidney disease was caused by diabetes. Hypertension is definitely hard on ones kidneys.  
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: TonyAlva on January 21, 2014, 08:08:24 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 22, 2014, 08:09:46 AM
Just got my second round if blood work. Ack creatinine level is still at 1.5.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 22, 2014, 08:15:03 AM
Just got my second round if blood work. Ack creatinine level is still at 1.5.

PIP my friend.


Is your urine foamy?  Whats your mircoalb level?

Are they reffering you to a renal doctor?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: galeniko on January 22, 2014, 08:16:08 AM
Just got my second round if blood work. Ack creatinine level is still at 1.5.
dont worry about that.thats nromal in muscular men.

how was urea-bun?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2014, 08:24:38 AM
Just got my second round if blood work. Ack creatinine level is still at 1.5.
increase your meat intake dumbass you can never eat enough meat
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 22, 2014, 08:36:59 AM
dont worry about that.thats nromal in muscular men.

how was urea-bun?

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Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Ropo on January 22, 2014, 09:19:07 AM
dont worry about that.thats nromal in muscular men.

how was urea-bun?

And most important, do you have relatives who are willing to donate you the new kidney? Don't be sad, make a protein shake for comfort..
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 22, 2014, 11:28:57 AM
And most important, do you have relatives who are willing to donate you the new kidney? Don't be sad, make a protein shake for comfort..

I'm not even human.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: galeniko on January 22, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
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18 what?can you put up the units for measurment for a european borther in iron ;D
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Rami on January 22, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
I try to warn people, but it seems most bodybuilders can't be reasoned with.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=515090.msg7284924#msg7284924

Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Rami on January 22, 2014, 12:16:38 PM
Eating more protein than necessary is like overdosing on to much vitamins, you need some, but more than recommended every day, year after year, will be toxic as fuck to your body. I'm just glad I realized this many years ago.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Ropo on January 22, 2014, 01:46:50 PM
I'm not even human.

Sure. In fact it seem to me that stupidity of yours are truly inhuman..
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 22, 2014, 02:44:44 PM
Both test came back almost exactly the same.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2014, 02:47:04 PM
why arent you changing your diet one way or the other, experiment with super high meat first and see what happens you fat retard
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: thelamefalsehood on January 22, 2014, 02:48:49 PM
is foamy piss always a bad sign? :D


I'm curious about the foamy piss as well. I remember mine even being foamy as a kid. I'd shoot the bubbles with my stream like battle ships. After reading all this about kidney issues, I'm a little freaked out.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 22, 2014, 03:10:34 PM
why arent you changing your diet one way or the other, experiment with super high meat first and see what happens you fat retard


Not fat at all.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2014, 03:24:15 PM

Not fat at all.
never mind the insult just what are you changing or keeping the same in your diet

dont approach this problem in a "hope and pray" matter, you actually have to do something about it
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 22, 2014, 04:27:07 PM
why arent you changing your diet one way or the other, experiment with super high meat first and see what happens you fat retard

Johnny,

Super high protein diets are actually contraindicated in patient's with renal disease. As stated before, your body can only utilize so much protein and excess amounts (especially in those who spill protein in the urine) actually cause more inflammation and damage. Moderation is key.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: nicorulez on January 22, 2014, 04:29:22 PM
http://www.kidney.org/professionals/KDOQI/guideline_diabetes/guide5.htm

KDOQI is the renal bible. They mention diabetes and renal disease as diabetes is the number one cause of renal failure in the USA. However, the recommendations are generally utilized for all patients.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 22, 2014, 04:43:30 PM

I'm curious about the foamy piss as well. I remember mine even being foamy as a kid. I'd shoot the bubbles with my stream like battle ships. After reading all this about kidney issues, I'm a little freaked out.

As a kid your kidneys are too small to process too much protein and sodium.  Sodium is bad for kids.  Kids will eat 6 mcnuggets which for an adult is 50% of the daily sodium but for a kid that weighs 45 pounds that is 200% of the daily needed sodium.  Add in the other shit kids eat and kidneys are working overtime.  Now when they say foamy urine as an adult, they don't mean little bubbles, but almost like you added a splash of soap in the toilet and have bubbles on top of bubbles.  This is bad and a lot of protein, but again it has nothing to do with your diet of eating too much protein.  It has to do with hypertension, diabetes, diet sodas and fake sugars and sodium intake.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Primemuscle on January 22, 2014, 05:04:28 PM

I'm curious about the foamy piss as well. I remember mine even being foamy as a kid. I'd shoot the bubbles with my stream like battle ships. After reading all this about kidney issues, I'm a little freaked out.

You shouldn't be. It is very unlikely you had kidney disease when you were a kid with foamy urine. Don't be a hypochondriac. If you are really concerned have a blood test to see what your kidney function is. Asking folks on a bodybuilding website gossip forum who likely have no medical training nor specialize is nephrology is absurd. The best anyone can offer is personal opinion which could be worthless.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Primemuscle on January 22, 2014, 05:16:52 PM
Both test came back almost exactly the same.

Karl,

What did your doctor say to you about your labs? If there is a problem, surely your doctor has offered some advice. Despite that Johnny Falcon is our resident witch doctor here, his advice as well as that of others here should be taken with a grain of salt....well maybe not salt if you have hypertension, which is one of the causes of kidney disease.

I know more about kidney disease then I ever imagined I would because my wife has had chronic kidney disease for years due to her being diabetic. I take her to her doctor appointments and go in with her to ask the doctor questions she might not think of. For the last nine days, my wife has been in the hospital with total (acute) kidney failure. Even with this level of involvement in my wife's health, I suspect I know very little about kidney disease. What I do know is you need your kidneys to work in order for you to stay alive. If they fail completely as my wife's have, you are faced with the choice of undergoing dialysis or dying. Currently she's getting dialysis every other day and she's still not doing very well.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: pellius on January 22, 2014, 09:21:29 PM
Johnny,

Super high protein diets are actually contraindicated in patient's with renal disease. As stated before, your body can only utilize so much protein and excess amounts (especially in those who spill protein in the urine) actually cause more inflammation and damage. Moderation is key.

Don't pay him no never mind. It's vegetarian one day, carnivore the next. Eat only Kale this week and it's all about grape juice the next. The once brilliant Falcon has fried his brain.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Karl Kox on January 23, 2014, 04:45:47 AM
Karl,

What did your doctor say to you about your labs? If there is a problem, surely your doctor has offered some advice. Despite that Johnny Falcon is our resident witch doctor here, his advice as well as that of others here should be taken with a grain of salt....well maybe not salt if you have hypertension, which is one of the causes of kidney disease.

I know more about kidney disease then I ever imagined I would because my wife has had chronic kidney disease for years due to her being diabetic. I take her to her doctor appointments and go in with her to ask the doctor questions she might not think of. For the last nine days, my wife has been in the hospital with total (acute) kidney failure. Even with this level of involvement in my wife's health, I suspect I know very little about kidney disease. What I do know is you need your kidneys to work in order for you to stay alive. If they fail completely as my wife's have, you are faced with the choice of undergoing dialysis or dying. Currently she's getting dialysis every other day and she's still not doing very well.

The regular doctor just said that I might want to see a kidney specialist. I actually made an appointment for one tomorrow earlier this week. 
I wish the best for you and your wife.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Marty Champions on January 23, 2014, 05:23:17 AM
KARL KOCKBRAIN Try EATING ALOT OF MEAT then get a test see if you can increase them levels!
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 23, 2014, 05:44:54 AM
increase your meat intake dumbass you can never eat enough meat
True, as I understand this is how you got back into shape correct Johnny?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Marty Champions on January 23, 2014, 06:35:01 AM
True, as I understand this is how you got back into shape correct Johnny?
the key is to only eat meat and let the meat rest in your stomach this way the kidneys can deal with the meat and gain more protien
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 23, 2014, 08:28:09 AM
the key is to only eat meat and let the meat rest in your stomach this way the kidneys can deal with the meat and gain more protien

Sounds like you've been takin a ride on the fagget-wagon
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 23, 2014, 09:10:58 AM
Stop being a bitch and just look down and yell "Man the fuck up kidneys and do your fucking job".
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Primemuscle on January 23, 2014, 11:23:38 AM
The regular doctor just said that I might want to see a kidney specialist. I actually made an appointment for one tomorrow earlier this week. 
I wish the best for you and your wife.

This is good news. I was concerned you were seriously looking for health advice from your fellow Getbiggers. Although doctors are just practicing medicine, they are mostly better informed about these things. The one thing I know for sure is that your kidneys are nothing to mess around with.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Primemuscle on January 23, 2014, 11:26:37 AM
True, as I understand this is how you got back into shape correct Johnny?

He's back in shape? The last photos I saw that he'd posted, he still looked pretty out of shape in as much as he looked like he could afford to get somewhat leaner.
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Primemuscle on January 23, 2014, 11:32:21 AM
the key is to only eat meat and let the meat rest in your stomach this way the kidneys can deal with the meat and gain more protien

And exactly how do you let meat rest in your stomach, Falcon? Hopefully, you are being sarcastic, but in case you are not, too much protein, particularly from red meat, is not advised for people with kidney problems. Our systems are a lot more complex than you seem to realize.

Did you see the article I posted about folks who eat red clay and end up with packed/backed up colons? Pretty interesting stuff. I could find nothing to support the theory that red clay is actually beneficial to one's health. Are you still eating that stuff?
Title: Re: High Levels of Protein in the Kidneys
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 23, 2014, 11:53:26 AM
He's back in shape? The last photos I saw that he'd posted, he still looked pretty out of shape in as much as he looked like he could afford to get somewhat leaner.
He is getting there quickly.