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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Wolfox on January 20, 2014, 10:16:35 PM
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Good stuff. Listen to Dr Layne Norton. Talks about the negs of low cal diets. Also rebounding, creating new fat cells and metabolic efficiency.
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meh I just get lazy.
We all get lazy after a few weeks or months of starving.
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Can someone summarize this? I'm not watching 30 minutes of someone i dislike
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bump for halo.
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This was the sort of stuff that lead to the big Lyle/Layne fight on Facebook -
http://bullshitonblast.blogspot.com/2013/04/battle-of-gurus-lyle-mcdonald-vs-layne.html .
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i wont watch 30minutes of that fraud.
creation of new fatcells ,i know exactly when and why that happens.
boohoo.
rebounding im sure hes familiar with, he looks like shit year round.
no shit after a day of fasting and then eating again, will hold some water.phew, groundbreaking.
someone forward this to the nobel price comitee ::)
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i wont watch 30minutes of that fraud.
creation of new fatcells ,i know exactly when and why that happens.
boohoo.
rebounding im sure hes familiar with, he looks like shit year round.
no shit after a day of fasting and then eating again, will hold some water.phew, groundbreaking.
someone forward this to the nobel price comitee ::)
Your metabolism is fucked from you being a retard trying to run low cals year around. Thats why your kidney was shot when you got to the doc.
Be honest and admit your maintenance cals at 180lbs. Under 1200? We promise we wont laugh. ;D
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i wont watch 30minutes of that fraud.
creation of new fatcells ,i know exactly when and why that happens.
boohoo.
rebounding im sure hes familiar with, he looks like shit year round.
no shit after a day of fasting and then eating again, will hold some water.phew, groundbreaking.
someone forward this to the nobel price comitee ::)
To be fair, this isn't common knowledge to most fat americans who think a mcdonalds salad and a large coke is healthy. But I agree.
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Your metabolism is fucked from you being a retard trying to run low cals year around.
Be honest and admit your maintenance cals at 180lbs. Under 1200? We promise we wont laugh. ;D
all those numbers are way off.
hope this helps.
1200*7=8400,i eat that in 1 meal at times.just have to hit the window of opurtunity at the right time.
look, homo, learn to lift first, take your time to develop a worthwhile physique, then come back talking.
To be fair, this isn't common knowledge to most fat americans who think a mcdonalds salad and a large coke is healthy. But I agree.
hm yah i forgot layne is cathering to the dumbasses who cant read a book or think for themselves,or do things actualy, much like "wolfox".
lol@ creation of new fatcells, if this happens to someone who lifts, they dont deserve a gym membership
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all those numbers are way off.
hope this helps.
1200*7=8400,i eat that in 1 meal at times.just have to hit the window of opurtunity at the right time.
Right. ::) You have a fast metabolism which is why you recommend a low fat keto diet. PSMF because of your fast metabolism. ::)
Anymore lies you want to tangle yourself up with?
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yah id say the metabolism is quite fast,this happens when you carry muscle, you wouldnt knwo this, obviously.
to get to 5% will take some suffering ,for everyone, can eat more but whats the point if must do 3hrs cardio in exchange.
now, you go and try nortons diet,haha, and make sure to post before and after pics.
its not happening anyway, you know what, you have finally bored me to no end.
no more adressing you.
btw, how you planning to cook foodstamps on that foreman grill?hahaha, you must be raking it in, oh brother
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no more adressing you.
Thats right run away like always like the bitch you are. You got caught parroting Lyle Mcdonalds work and tried to pass it off as your own... only you were doing it wrong and fucked up your kidneys.
Your PSMF is real groundbreaking tho ::)... only several decades since it has been popular in bbing circles.
Youre a fraud... a phony... a wannabe. Nearing 40, single, no wife or kids, no future... only an apartment you have to pay rent to live in. You've admitted to having a low IQ, being unemployed and living on the government dole. You're a druggie of all kinds. Pathetic.
You're a complete and total loser.
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What's the cliffnotes on the Layne/Lyle fight?
What did they disagree on?
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Layne just repeats the same crap I read in Muscle and Fitness 25 years ago. I have never read a thing of his that is of much help.
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What's the cliffnotes on the Layne/Lyle fight?
What did they disagree on?
Lyle basically said that the whole long term metabolic damage theory was bullshit, and nothing in the grand scheme of things, and any problems caused by long term dieting were self correcting pretty fast(eg water retention).
Layne responded with basically "Lyle is mean, and I am right"
Lyle said show me the actual science, while citing a bunch of scientific papers backing his theory.
Layne came back with a bunch of self reported anecdotal stuff from his clients, and that he, himself, was working on a paper. He also deleted a bunch of posts, etc.... calling him out.
Then it just turned into a big "fuck you", "no, fuck you" type thing, but if you pull away the fighting, Lyle basically pinned him down, and he couldn't really offer any facts.
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Lyle basically said that the whole long term metabolic damage theory was bullshit, and nothing in the grand scheme of things, and any problems caused by long term dieting were self correcting pretty fast(eg water retention).
Layne responded with basically "Lyle is mean, and I am right"
Lyle said show me the actual science, while citing a bunch of scientific papers backing his theory.
Layne came back with a bunch of self reported anecdotal stuff from his clients, and that he, himself, was working on a paper. He also deleted a bunch of posts, etc.... calling him out.
Then it just turned into a big "fuck you", "no, fuck you" type thing, but if you pull away the fighting, Lyle basically pinned him down, and he couldn't really offer any facts.
This was the best that Layne could come up with.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p4YmrVwZ1iM/UYBlgeNQGTI/AAAAAAAAAGw/HZST1g7Zkew/s1600/Screen+Shot+2013-04-30+at+5.41.56+PM.png)
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Layne may very well turn out to be right but Lyle owned his ass in their "debate"
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Layne may very well turn out to be right but Lyle owned his ass in their "debate"
He may indeed be right, but the vast majority of research-based evidence indicates that he's wrong.
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I personally think Layne is one of the biggest scam artists out there right now.
He's always throwing around the "I have a PhD" and I'm so knowledgeable and educated, yet when you question him he deflects.
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I personally think Layne is one of the biggest scam artists out there right now.
He's always throwing around the "I have a PhD" and I'm so knowledgeable and educated, yet when you question him he deflects.
Yup. He's produced very little published research himself. The PhD is just a marketing thing
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fuck this shit, way too complicated for nothing at all
it's not fucking rocket science, it's getting in shape
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He may indeed be right, but the vast majority of research-based evidence indicates that he's wrong.
I think its more an issue of a lack of research-based evidence than anything. Most of the studies they are working with are questionable in their applicability for bodybuilders and athletes. Thats not to say the data we currently have is totally irrelevant, just that it's questionable... or at best not ideal.