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Title: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2014, 09:33:36 AM
I never read the Huffington Post but I saw this on my FB feed and thought it was great. For all of you who thought Sherman came off classless, read this.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/isaac-saul/what-richard-sherman-taught-us_b_4631980.html


"I'm the best corner[back] in the game. When you try me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree, that's the result you going to get."
--Richard Sherman

That's the quote that got America talking.

The man behind it was Seattle Seahawks all-pro defensive back Richard Sherman, a guy whose mouth is about the only thing louder than his game.

In the moments after Sherman's post-game interview, Twitter exploded. People called him everything from a "thug" to a "disgrace," and even Justin Verlander - a professional pitcher for the Detroit Tigers - suggested that Sherman would get "high and tight" fastballs if he were in the MLB. On top of that, tweets and memes like the one below spread like wildfire.

    #Truth I can't stand him!! The reason why I hate the Seahawks! pic.twitter.com/2IECYsANaT
    — Kelly Michelle (@kelly_MichelleJ) January 20, 2014

But from my perspective, the heat Sherman is getting is not just misguided but ludicrous. This is a guy who represents one of the best kinds of sports stories there is in the world: the rise from the bottom, the profound destruction of obstacles, the honest success story built by a foundation of hard work and loving parents. If anyone with a brain took the time to learn about Richard Sherman, and then put him in the context of the rest of the National Football League, he'd be a pretty hard guy to bash.

Firstly, we're talking about a 25-year-old who came out of the streets of Compton, California. Sherman graduated from one of the worst school districts in the United States, one that boasts a high-school graduation rate of 57 percent. In a country where 68 percent of all federal and state inmates are lacking a high school diploma, you could say Sherman avoided a horrifying fate. But to say he "got lucky" or "escaped" would be foolhardy. He didn't "just graduate," either. He finished with a 4.2 GPA, second in his class, and went on to Stanford University, one of the most prestigious places to get an education in the entire world. He busted out in a rocket ship. He went from a world of gang violence and drugs to everything that Palo Alto and Stanford University represent.

And where did Mr. Sherman get the work ethic to put up those grades and make it to a school that offers that kind of education? Probably from his father, Kevin, who has worked in the sanitation department for Los Angeles for more than thirty years. But you won't see that on Sherman's stat sheet, and you definitely won't hear about it when ESPN analysts comment on his post-game interview today. Most interesting, though, is that Sherman's story isn't a big secret. NFL Films has even done a short documentary on "the trash-talking cornerback."

So now, America, let's talk about Richard Sherman in the NFL. Let's talk about the Stanford graduate from Compton who has never been arrested, never cursed in a post-game interview, never been accused of being a dirty player, started his own charitable non-profit, and won an appeal in the only thing close to a smudge on his record.

This past off-season, 31 NFL players were arrested for everything from gun charges and driving under the Influence to murder.

Last year, Kansas City Chiefs player Javon Belcher killed Kasandra Perkins, his girlfriend and the mother of his own child, before taking his own life.

Week in and week out, we sit down in front of our televisions and cheer for these freak athletes to destroy each other's bodies in one of the most brutal games known to man. Most of us probably do it with a beer in our hand, screaming and cursing at our TVs in a desperate hope to change the outcome of the game. We ignore how the NFL's owners use our tax money so freely, and we don't seem to care much about the brain damage retired players suffer from every year.

Yet, when one kid who has overcome everything, one kid who was doubted by the very player he overcame on Sunday, decides to emphatically claim he is the best (by the way: he is), this is what upsets us? Man, could you imagine if this generation had to deal with Muhammad Ali?

Last night, when Richard Sherman went on his rant to Erin Andrews, most of America thought they were learning about the arrogance of another NFL player. But in reality, what Richard Sherman did was teach us about ourselves. He taught us that we're still a country that isn't ready for lower-class Americans from neighborhoods like Compton to succeed. We're still a country that can't decipher a person's character. But most of all, he taught us that no matter what you overcome in your life, we're still a country that can't accept someone if they're a little louder, a little prouder, or a little different from the people we surround ourselves with.

In the words of the great Richard Sherman, there is only one question: You mad, bro?

Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Shockwave on January 21, 2014, 09:56:39 AM
People dont like when others remind them of their own mediocrity.

They also dont like it when someone is proud of themselves or thwir accomplishments.

dudes a loud mouth,  but he backs it up. And he does more humanitarian shit that most billionaire philanthropists do. So fuck people.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 21, 2014, 09:58:46 AM
So what?  All that edumacation and he acts like an idiot.  I know a boatload of people with degrees up the ass and that are still fucked up idiots.  Doesn't mean shit.  How you act as a human is who you are, not what a piece of paper says.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 21, 2014, 09:59:31 AM
He is a great guy.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Shockwave on January 21, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
So what?  All that edumacation and he acts like an idiot.  I know a boatload of people with degrees up the ass and that are still fucked up idiots.  Doesn't mean shit.  How you act as a human is who you are, not what a piece of paper says.
dude spends his free time working in the ghettos helping out and givinf money in aid - unlike the rest of the NFL that gets arrested for beatinf their GFs or shooting themselves in the leg.

ever think that maybe, just maybe, its all an act?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Option D on January 21, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
dude spends his free time working in the ghettos helping out and givinf money in aid - unlike the rest of the NFL that gets arrested for beatinf their GFs or shooting themselves in the leg.
ever think that maybe, just maybe, its all an act?

i lol'd
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
So what?  All that edumacation and he acts like an idiot.  I know a boatload of people with degrees up the ass and that are still fucked up idiots.  Doesn't mean shit.  How you act as a human is who you are, not what a piece of paper says.

As a human, he acts just fine. Just because he's a trash talker (that can back his shit) on a football field doesn't reflect on his community.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: 240 is Back on January 21, 2014, 10:17:28 AM
He's accomplished a great deal in his short career so far, but the way he acts... Pulling that "choking" sign...

If one of us was coaching little league and our players were imitating the "choking" sign, we wouldn't like it one bit.

Nobody denies he's a winner... is that he's classless while doing it, I think that's what bothers people.  Take the win, Sherman... don't run up to the guy you just burned, slap him on ass, pull the choke sign, and talk shit. 

THAT is the difference - he's a winner, but he's a total dick about it.  If our kids acted like that toward other players, we could straighten them out, and tell them "That's not a good way to carry yourself".   Nobody is saying Sherman isn't a great player who has accomplished a lot - but kicking ass in sports is no reason to treat people like garbage.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2014, 10:29:50 AM
He's accomplished a great deal in his short career so far, but the way he acts... Pulling that "choking" sign...

If one of us was coaching little league and our players were imitating the "choking" sign, we wouldn't like it one bit.

Nobody denies he's a winner... is that he's classless while doing it, I think that's what bothers people.  Take the win, Sherman... don't run up to the guy you just burned, slap him on ass, pull the choke sign, and talk shit. 

THAT is the difference - he's a winner, but he's a total dick about it.  If our kids acted like that toward other players, we could straighten them out, and tell them "That's not a good way to carry yourself".   Nobody is saying Sherman isn't a great player who has accomplished a lot - but kicking ass in sports is no reason to treat people like garbage.


This ain't little league, son. I remember reading an article about Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco) who IMO was one of the best receivers ever, saying he used to set aside $100k a year just for fines.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Option D on January 21, 2014, 10:36:03 AM
As a human, he acts just fine. Just because he's a trash talker (that can back his shit) on a football field doesn't reflect on his community.

you have never played a major sport ever
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2014, 10:37:18 AM
you have never played a major sport ever

I played A and AA Baseball as well as a season at PCC football. Thanks for playing.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: JediTerminator on January 21, 2014, 10:38:28 AM
NFL will fine him for the choking sign. then line his pockets with cash for the awesome PR he's giving the league to hype up the superbowl. can't buy this kinda media coverage.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Bevo on January 21, 2014, 10:44:36 AM
Used to love watching randy moss and Terrell Owens
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: 240 is Back on January 21, 2014, 10:50:18 AM
Used to love watching randy moss and Terrell Owens

I could be wrong... but from what I remember, these 2 WRs were very good, and had very elaborate celebrations - but they weren't scoring a TD then chasing down the man they burned, and mocking him/starting a fight by slapping ass and choking and talking shit.

That is the difference - they celebrated their achievement.  Sherman is celebrating their defeat in a crass manner.  

Some people love that kinda trash-talking.  That's great.  I prefer winners that celebrate what they do, but call their opponents worthy and take the win with class.  Nobody can deny Sherman is acting trashy - they can only justify it with "it's okay to be trashy cause it's pro sports".  Ochocinco would wear a HOF jacket on sideline.  Joe horn (?) would pull out a marker from goal post and sign something.   But neither of them would seek out the man they burned, start a fight with him, and then run to the camera and brag about how that player ain't shit.  

He's playing the bad guy role, and many people are willing to put aside what would normally be considered trashy behavior because they like that team.  Starting a fight when a man you beat in most areas of life would be wrong, but some celebrate it when it happens on the sports field.  I'm cool with that.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Option D on January 21, 2014, 10:58:36 AM
I played A and AA Baseball as well as a season at PCC football. Thanks for playing.

my bad i messed up...that was directed at El Diablo..

And what position did you play in football..
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 21, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
I have a few "revelations" for people who never played proffesional sports but watched them from the livingroom sofa..

There is no such thing as fair play. Ever.

You are there to win and do whatever it takes to accomplish that. The big time is won by such slight margins that anything can help.

All professional athletes are great athletes. There are slight differences. The mental makes the difference day in and day out.

Some are introverts, some are extroverts. All are as ruthless as you can imagine.

I might smile and be gracious but I am demeaning you in my mind. Humiliating an opponent is the norm. Winners, step on your throat when you are down.

Top athletes are extremely competitive.

Stop trying to understand them through YOUR mind-set. Learn to think through THEIR'S (but that will never happen because you would not be reading this if that were the case  ;D )

No matter how powder puff the "sport" may seem, the competition is as vicious as in combat sports.

The powers that be are selling you these "combat rituals" as "fair-play" sports and a nice endeavour. Trust me, there is nothing "nice" about winning in big time sports. It's imposing your will over another's. No such thing as fair play. Of course, they are the biggest ipocrits fining athletes for unnecessary this or that and for "roids" when they should fire the whole NFL if that were a true standard.

They milked the idea of Lance Armstrong as an idol for years and years. They also took him down and made him nothing right in front of you. If you think these things are random, you are living a fairy tale that the powers that be use to mesmerize you into unconsciousness. While you are busy watching the next DARELL life happens and you don't even know it.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 21, 2014, 11:00:20 AM
Wasn't this guy suspended for taking adderall?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: 240 is Back on January 21, 2014, 11:04:25 AM
Wasn't this guy suspended for taking adderall?

yeah, he was.   First he blamed a teammate for spiking his water.  Then he justified it by saying "Hey, half the league takes it".

So yes, whether or not one believes players should be allowed to take it - He did violate league substance policy. 
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: che on January 21, 2014, 11:09:10 AM

And what position did you play in football

The Coach  was  one of the best  Kick-Off Tee  in the country, I hope this help.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: The_Punisher on January 21, 2014, 11:22:01 AM
it just look bad the way sherman handle that shit and people have made a big deal about it now...yes, Sherman got a big mouth and the game of football will humble him somehow, I have no problem of a player talking trash when he can back up his shit.......it was even  funnier when he went after Tom Brady and said "u mad Bro?.....hahahahah....Tom told him that after new england win the game to come and see him.......all and all, Sherman did go to Stanford U with a 3.9 GPA....I don't think he's stupid at all.......oh, Tom Brady handle defeat better than most NFL players I've seen....fuck Billichick
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: BB on January 21, 2014, 11:24:09 AM
Egads, what a soft pack of yentas we're becoming. One hazards to think the amount of whining that would happen if a really polished trash talker like Mohammed Ali existed today....
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: The_Punisher on January 21, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
Egads, what a soft pack of yentas we're becoming. One hazards to think the amount of whining that would happen if a really polished trash talker like Mohammed Ali existed today....

it's funny how someone was showing a clip of Ali talking mad shit after winning a fight...it put what sherman did to shame....lol
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: BB on January 21, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
it's funny how someone was showing a clip of Ali talking mad shit after winning a fight...it put what sherman did to shame....lol

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Imagine the crying that something like that would cause today.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2014, 11:32:41 AM
my bad i messed up...that was directed at El Diablo..

And what position did you play in football..

No problem. Outside LB and WR.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: tu_holmes on January 21, 2014, 11:36:59 AM
I love the guy.

He may be my favorite player in the NFL now.

Anyone who doesn't like him is just a hater and "most likely" a racist.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Shockwave on January 21, 2014, 11:39:34 AM
I have a few "revelations" for people who never played proffesional sports but watched them from the livingroom sofa..

There is no such thing as fair play. Ever.

You are there to win and do whatever it takes to accomplish that. The big time is won by such slight margins that anything can help.

All professional athletes are great athletes. There are slight differences. The mental makes the difference day in and day out.

Some are introverts, some are extroverts. All are as ruthless as you can imagine.

I might smile and be gracious but I am demeaning you in my mind. Humiliating an opponent is the norm. Winners, step on your throat when you are down.

Top athletes are extremely competitive.

Stop trying to understand them through YOUR mind-set. Learn to think through THEIR'S (but that will never happen because you would not be reading this if that were the case  ;D )

No matter how powder puff the "sport" may seem, the competition is as vicious as in combat sports.

The powers that be are selling you these "combat rituals" as "fair-play" sports and a nice endeavour. Trust me, there is nothing "nice" about winning in big time sports. It's imposing your will over another's. No such thing as fair play. Of course, they are the biggest ipocrits fining athletes for unnecessary this or that and for "roids" when they should fire the whole NFL if that were a true standard.

They milked the idea of Lance Armstrong as an idol for years and years. They also took him down and made him nothing right in front of you. If you think these things are random, you are living a fairy tale that the powers that be use to mesmerize you into unconsciousness. While you are busy watching the next DARELL life happens and you don't even know it.


this... losers always whine about their best, class, and sportsmanship..... winners go home and fuck the prom queen/super model/your girlfriend
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 21, 2014, 11:50:18 AM
I love the guy.

He may be my favorite player in the NFL now.

Anyone who doesn't like him is just a hater and "most likely" a racist.



Sherman does sound like a jewish name.  So racist or antisemetic against original hebrew?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: tu_holmes on January 21, 2014, 12:05:07 PM
this... losers always whine about their best, class, and sportsmanship..... winners go home and fuck the prom queen/super model/your girlfriend

100 percent.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: JediTerminator on January 21, 2014, 12:07:02 PM
I have a few "revelations" for people who never played proffesional sports but watched them from the livingroom sofa..

There is no such thing as fair play. Ever.

You are there to win and do whatever it takes to accomplish that. The big time is won by such slight margins that anything can help.

All professional athletes are great athletes. There are slight differences. The mental makes the difference day in and day out.

Some are introverts, some are extroverts. All are as ruthless as you can imagine.

I might smile and be gracious but I am demeaning you in my mind. Humiliating an opponent is the norm. Winners, step on your throat when you are down.

Top athletes are extremely competitive.

Stop trying to understand them through YOUR mind-set. Learn to think through THEIR'S (but that will never happen because you would not be reading this if that were the case  ;D )

No matter how powder puff the "sport" may seem, the competition is as vicious as in combat sports.

The powers that be are selling you these "combat rituals" as "fair-play" sports and a nice endeavour. Trust me, there is nothing "nice" about winning in big time sports. It's imposing your will over another's. No such thing as fair play. Of course, they are the biggest ipocrits fining athletes for unnecessary this or that and for "roids" when they should fire the whole NFL if that were a true standard.

They milked the idea of Lance Armstrong as an idol for years and years. They also took him down and made him nothing right in front of you. If you think these things are random, you are living a fairy tale that the powers that be use to mesmerize you into unconsciousness. While you are busy watching the next DARELL life happens and you don't even know it.



who is DARELL?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Parker on January 21, 2014, 12:13:16 PM
http://deadspin.com/richard-sherman-and-the-plight-of-the-conquering-negro-1505060117?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=tuesdayAM  (http://deadspin.com/richard-sherman-and-the-plight-of-the-conquering-negro-1505060117?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=tuesdayAM)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 21, 2014, 12:13:26 PM
Darrel is generic for any star athlete we watch  ;D .. a hebrew playing sports
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: Hypertrophy on January 21, 2014, 04:45:16 PM
I have a few "revelations" for people who never played proffesional sports but watched them from the livingroom sofa..

There is no such thing as fair play. Ever.

You are there to win and do whatever it takes to accomplish that. The big time is won by such slight margins that anything can help.

All professional athletes are great athletes. There are slight differences. The mental makes the difference day in and day out.

Some are introverts, some are extroverts. All are as ruthless as you can imagine.

I might smile and be gracious but I am demeaning you in my mind. Humiliating an opponent is the norm. Winners, step on your throat when you are down.

Top athletes are extremely competitive.

Stop trying to understand them through YOUR mind-set. Learn to think through THEIR'S (but that will never happen because you would not be reading this if that were the case  ;D )

No matter how powder puff the "sport" may seem, the competition is as vicious as in combat sports.

The powers that be are selling you these "combat rituals" as "fair-play" sports and a nice endeavour. Trust me, there is nothing "nice" about winning in big time sports. It's imposing your will over another's. No such thing as fair play. Of course, they are the biggest ipocrits fining athletes for unnecessary this or that and for "roids" when they should fire the whole NFL if that were a true standard.

They milked the idea of Lance Armstrong as an idol for years and years. They also took him down and made him nothing right in front of you. If you think these things are random, you are living a fairy tale that the powers that be use to mesmerize you into unconsciousness. While you are busy watching the next DARELL life happens and you don't even know it.



Pretty spot on Sev, but there ARE a few good guys out there. I raced stateside in Pro-Am cycling events with guys like Steve Bauer (Wore the yellow jersey in the TdF and Lance's team-mate) and Andy Hampsten (winner of the Giro d'Italia). Nicest people in the world. In races they were fair play all the way around.

They had a much more grounded view to life. Just saying.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Ron on January 21, 2014, 10:19:26 PM
This guy is defending him because he came from Compton? And then he went to Stanford and was a straight A student. Great. Wodnerful.

There are a lot of people from poverty areas who have made it into sports, business and more.

But to defend this guy after the pathetically trounced and ranted.  No way.  That was classless and sad.  


And this statement - the most pathetic of all..

Quote
But in reality, what Richard Sherman did was teach us about ourselves. He taught us that we're still a country that isn't ready for lower-class Americans from neighborhoods like Compton to succeed.

This guy actually believes the crap he writes. Wow.  When I watched that guy rant, I didn't care where he came from, what color he was,  or if he had millions (which he does).  All I saw was a ranting of a man who lost control, and did not act with sportsmanlike conduct. That is it simple. And he apologized for it.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 21, 2014, 10:30:57 PM
Why do athletes have to be stoic?  Aren't sports about entertainment?
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: tu_holmes on January 21, 2014, 11:30:12 PM
This guy is defending him because he came from Compton? And then he went to Stanford and was a straight A student. Great. Wodnerful.

There are a lot of people from poverty areas who have made it into sports, business and more.

But to defend this guy after the pathetically trounced and ranted.  No way.  That was classless and sad. 


And this statement - the most pathetic of all..

This guy actually believes the crap he writes. Wow.  When I watched that guy rant, I didn't care where he came from, what color he was,  or if he had millions (which he does).  All I saw was a ranting of a man who lost control, and did not act with sportsmanlike conduct. That is it simple. And he apologized for it.



Why was it classless, Ron?

I'm still confused why we expect "class" when someone called HIM out... talked shit about HIM. Then when he proved HIS WORTH, he's supposed to be all nice?

That's bunk.

He figuratively slapped Crabtree in the mouth and made him his bitch... because Crabtree didn't shut the hell up.

Why do we expect class after, but we are not holding the receiver of the beatdown to the same class before?

Seems we are ok with trash talking before, but afterwards... Oh now now... let's be nice.

I don't buy it.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: oldgolds on January 22, 2014, 09:33:22 AM
What did he teach us? That some stereotypes are true.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Option D on January 22, 2014, 09:37:45 AM
What did he teach us? That some stereotypes are true.

But then hes a black man from compton that graduated from Stanford...so does that mean some sterotypes are untrue...like.. cant have it both ways
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Earl1972 on January 22, 2014, 02:45:50 PM
sherman can play on my team any day of the week

if you back it up, you can say whatever you want

E
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 22, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
he'd be hot without the extensions Lol
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2014, 03:45:55 PM
he'd be hot without the extensions Lol

lol
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on January 23, 2014, 08:11:35 AM
Richard Sherman: Thug Is Now 'The Accepted Way Of Calling Somebody The N-Word' (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/richard-sherman-thug-n-word-press-conference_n_4646871.html

""The only reason it bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling somebody the N-word nowadays," Sherman said during a press conference on Wednesday. "It's like everyone else said the N-word and they said 'Thug' and they're like, 'Ah, that's fine.' That's where it kind of takes me aback and it's kind of disappointing.""
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Wiggs on January 23, 2014, 08:21:38 AM
Richard Sherman: Thug Is Now 'The Accepted Way Of Calling Somebody The N-Word' (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/richard-sherman-thug-n-word-press-conference_n_4646871.html

""The only reason it bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling somebody the N-word nowadays," Sherman said during a press conference on Wednesday. "It's like everyone else said the N-word and they said 'Thug' and they're like, 'Ah, that's fine.' That's where it kind of takes me aback and it's kind of disappointing.""

He's right. Whites know exactly what they're doing when they use this word. If you've assimilated you get the honor of being called a black man and not a thug. Sherman is a loud mouth Hebrew that's good at talking shit. What else is new? Everyone knows a Hebrew or 10 that talks shit. We've always been a very rebellious and proud people. This shouldn't come as a surprise. Most of you here know that on occasion I have the propensity to talk shit at the same time you all know I'm not a thug. People need to learn to separate the two.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on January 23, 2014, 08:26:58 AM
He's right. Whites know exactly what their doing when they use this word. If you've assimilated you get the honor of being called a black man and not a thug. Sherman is a loud mouth Hebrew that's good at talking shit. What else is new? Everyone knows a Hebrew or 10 that talks shit. We've always been a very rebellious and proud people. This shouldn't come as a surprise. Most of you here know that on occasion I have the propensity to talk shit at the same time you all know I'm not a thug. People need to learn to separate the two.

Should he be using the word to describe people he knows?  If the word really is that poisonous and he's angry that reporters are using it... why is he using it to describe people that he knows?



"I know some 'thugs,' and they know I'm the furthest thing from a thug," Sherman said. "

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24417234/richard-sherman-thug-is-accepted-way-of-calling-someone-n-word
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Wiggs on January 23, 2014, 08:28:43 AM
Should he be using the word to describe people he knows?  If the word really is that poisonous and he's angry that reporters are using it... why is he using it to describe people that he knows?



"I know some 'thugs,' and they know I'm the furthest thing from a thug," Sherman said. "

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24417234/richard-sherman-thug-is-accepted-way-of-calling-someone-n-word

Because he's using the word in the true sense of its meaning and not a covert word for the n-word.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: _aj_ on January 23, 2014, 08:34:42 AM
Wasn't this guy suspended for taking adderall?

Adderall. LOL. The league isn't allowed to say what he tested positive for, just that he tested positive. So every time there is a hit, the player will immediately put out a press release that it is adderall, the least offensive item on the prohibited drug list. It was PEDs. It's always PEDs.

And the fucking guy IS the best at his position. He can talk shit, but he backs it the fuck up on the field. The people complaining are just bitch-ass know-nothings that never laced them up. Fucking pisses me off how beta-fied this country is becoming.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Option D on January 23, 2014, 08:35:42 AM
http://deadspin.com/richard-sherman-explains-what-people-mean-when-they-cal-1506821800

lol...awesome response to a bunch of level 1 thinkers
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Option D on January 23, 2014, 08:36:56 AM
Should he be using the word to describe people he knows?  If the word really is that poisonous and he's angry that reporters are using it... why is he using it to describe people that he knows?



"I know some 'thugs,' and they know I'm the furthest thing from a thug," Sherman said. "

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24417234/richard-sherman-thug-is-accepted-way-of-calling-someone-n-word

because theyre really thugs that do thug shit like criminal acts. Not say "im the best corner in the league"
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: polychronopolous on January 23, 2014, 08:40:09 AM
Damn they're catching onto us and the use of the word "thug"

We gotta think of something else quick.

"Those people" are more clever than what I thought ::)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: ChopperRider on January 23, 2014, 08:42:53 AM
He's right. Whites know exactly what they're doing when they use this word. If you've assimilated you get the honor of being called a black man and not a thug. Sherman is a loud mouth Hebrew that's good at talking shit. What else is new? Everyone knows a Hebrew or 10 that talks shit. We've always been a very rebellious and proud people. This shouldn't come as a surprise. Most of you here know that on occasion I have the propensity to talk shit at the same time you all know I'm not a thug. People need to learn to separate the two.

Proud people?

I'll believe that when "you" (not you specifically Wigg) start treating each other like humans and stop living like animals in neighborhoods that look like cesspools.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman
Post by: That_Dude on January 23, 2014, 08:45:46 AM
People dont like when others remind them of their own mediocrity.

They also dont like it when someone is proud of themselves or thwir accomplishments.



This exactly
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: JediTerminator on January 23, 2014, 02:31:28 PM
controversy makes sports exciting. if you can't take trash talk get the fuck out of the league. crabtree seems to not really give a shit
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 23, 2014, 02:44:36 PM
I can't believe faggots are still upset over this

The best part was in the post game interview. ..he goes " I know, RIGHT ?!" ....like the reporter agreed with him....comic gold.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Shockwave on January 23, 2014, 02:52:25 PM
Our society is so fucking retarded.... we get all butthurt at the guy that talks shit back and shuts up the other guy, rather than the guy that started the shit in the 1st place (crabtree).

Its like the guy that gets lit up by the media or citizens for beating the shit out of another guy when the other guy attacked him 1st

retarded. People are such bitches.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: RagingBull on January 23, 2014, 02:56:21 PM
Being loud and proud is not the issue as far as I am concerned.  He IS an amazing athlete and his accomplishments are praiseworthy.  There was no need to put down Crabtree though...something the article COMPLETELY glosses over.

I never read the Huffington Post but I saw this on my FB feed and thought it was great. For all of you who thought Sherman came off classless, read this.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/isaac-saul/what-richard-sherman-taught-us_b_4631980.html


"I'm the best corner[back] in the game. When you try me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree, that's the result you going to get."
--Richard Sherman

That's the quote that got America talking.

The man behind it was Seattle Seahawks all-pro defensive back Richard Sherman, a guy whose mouth is about the only thing louder than his game.

In the moments after Sherman's post-game interview, Twitter exploded. People called him everything from a "thug" to a "disgrace," and even Justin Verlander - a professional pitcher for the Detroit Tigers - suggested that Sherman would get "high and tight" fastballs if he were in the MLB. On top of that, tweets and memes like the one below spread like wildfire.

    #Truth I can't stand him!! The reason why I hate the Seahawks! pic.twitter.com/2IECYsANaT
    — Kelly Michelle (@kelly_MichelleJ) January 20, 2014

But from my perspective, the heat Sherman is getting is not just misguided but ludicrous. This is a guy who represents one of the best kinds of sports stories there is in the world: the rise from the bottom, the profound destruction of obstacles, the honest success story built by a foundation of hard work and loving parents. If anyone with a brain took the time to learn about Richard Sherman, and then put him in the context of the rest of the National Football League, he'd be a pretty hard guy to bash.

Firstly, we're talking about a 25-year-old who came out of the streets of Compton, California. Sherman graduated from one of the worst school districts in the United States, one that boasts a high-school graduation rate of 57 percent. In a country where 68 percent of all federal and state inmates are lacking a high school diploma, you could say Sherman avoided a horrifying fate. But to say he "got lucky" or "escaped" would be foolhardy. He didn't "just graduate," either. He finished with a 4.2 GPA, second in his class, and went on to Stanford University, one of the most prestigious places to get an education in the entire world. He busted out in a rocket ship. He went from a world of gang violence and drugs to everything that Palo Alto and Stanford University represent.

And where did Mr. Sherman get the work ethic to put up those grades and make it to a school that offers that kind of education? Probably from his father, Kevin, who has worked in the sanitation department for Los Angeles for more than thirty years. But you won't see that on Sherman's stat sheet, and you definitely won't hear about it when ESPN analysts comment on his post-game interview today. Most interesting, though, is that Sherman's story isn't a big secret. NFL Films has even done a short documentary on "the trash-talking cornerback."

So now, America, let's talk about Richard Sherman in the NFL. Let's talk about the Stanford graduate from Compton who has never been arrested, never cursed in a post-game interview, never been accused of being a dirty player, started his own charitable non-profit, and won an appeal in the only thing close to a smudge on his record.

This past off-season, 31 NFL players were arrested for everything from gun charges and driving under the Influence to murder.

Last year, Kansas City Chiefs player Javon Belcher killed Kasandra Perkins, his girlfriend and the mother of his own child, before taking his own life.

Week in and week out, we sit down in front of our televisions and cheer for these freak athletes to destroy each other's bodies in one of the most brutal games known to man. Most of us probably do it with a beer in our hand, screaming and cursing at our TVs in a desperate hope to change the outcome of the game. We ignore how the NFL's owners use our tax money so freely, and we don't seem to care much about the brain damage retired players suffer from every year.

Yet, when one kid who has overcome everything, one kid who was doubted by the very player he overcame on Sunday, decides to emphatically claim he is the best (by the way: he is), this is what upsets us? Man, could you imagine if this generation had to deal with Muhammad Ali?

Last night, when Richard Sherman went on his rant to Erin Andrews, most of America thought they were learning about the arrogance of another NFL player. But in reality, what Richard Sherman did was teach us about ourselves. He taught us that we're still a country that isn't ready for lower-class Americans from neighborhoods like Compton to succeed. We're still a country that can't decipher a person's character. But most of all, he taught us that no matter what you overcome in your life, we're still a country that can't accept someone if they're a little louder, a little prouder, or a little different from the people we surround ourselves with.

In the words of the great Richard Sherman, there is only one question: You mad, bro?


Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Shockwave on January 23, 2014, 02:58:39 PM
Being loud and proud is not the issue as far as I am concerned.  He IS an amazing athlete and his accomplishments are praiseworthy.  There was no need to put down Crabtree though...something the article COMPLETELY glosses over.

Really? Im pretty sure Crabtree was dissing him pretty hard...
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 23, 2014, 03:02:27 PM
Being loud and proud is not the issue as far as I am concerned.  He IS an amazing athlete and his accomplishments are praiseworthy.  There was no need to put down Crabtree though...something the article COMPLETELY glosses over.


What they are glossing over is probably the cheque drops or tren he was on causing all the rage.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: tu_holmes on January 23, 2014, 03:04:50 PM
I can't believe people are still talking about this.

Unreal. Let it go people.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 23, 2014, 03:09:33 PM
I can't believe people are still talking about this.

Unreal. Let it go people.
X2 its old.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Option D on January 23, 2014, 03:21:42 PM
lol


Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on January 23, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
Sherman is a really talented kid that broke NFL drug rules, and happens to be an a$$hole.

these are 3 facts which nobody can dispute.  Even his supporters have to admit he's a level 5 prick... they're just okay with that :)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Shockwave on January 23, 2014, 03:32:01 PM
Sherman is a really talented kid that broke NFL drug rules, and happens to be an a$$hole.

these are 3 facts which nobody can dispute.  Even his supporters have to admit he's a level 5 prick... they're just okay with that :)
im not convinced he a level 5 prick... most of his shit talkong is eother good natured or in retaliation to shit others have said... hes just a little better and a little louder.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: tu_holmes on January 23, 2014, 03:40:20 PM
im not convinced he a level 5 prick... most of his shit talkong is eother good natured or in retaliation to shit others have said... hes just a little better and a little louder.

And this "NFL rule" was complete bullshit.

The NFL doesn't test for Steroids hardly ever, but take an upper and you're done.

::)
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: JediTerminator on January 23, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
And this "NFL rule" was complete bullshit.

The NFL doesn't test for Steroids hardly ever, but take an upper and you're done.

::)

Marshawn Lynch got arrested with like 5lbs of weed in his car and a Mac-10. Gets community service and NFL suspended him 4 games. something like that. lol nfl don't give a fuuuuuuuuucckkkkk when it comes to protecting valuable players.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on January 23, 2014, 11:52:44 PM
im not convinced he a level 5 prick... most of his shit talkong is eother good natured or in retaliation to shit others have said... hes just a little better and a little louder.

You think doing the "choking" motion in someone's face while gloating a win on national TV isn't level 5 prick?  

LOL... I mean, yes, Crabtree is also a level 5 prick... but when you WIN, and you win like an a-hole, then yeah, you're the prick among pricks.   And the way he went on ESPN and said "I'm better at life than you" because Skip shared his opinion that Revis was the better CB at the time.... WTF is that?   That's what 1st graders say... I'm better at life than you"...

If he's not a level 5 prick, he's pretty darn close.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 24, 2014, 05:26:42 AM
You think doing the "choking" motion in someone's face while gloating a win on national TV isn't level 5 prick?  

LOL... I mean, yes, Crabtree is also a level 5 prick... but when you WIN, and you win like an a-hole, then yeah, you're the prick among pricks.   And the way he went on ESPN and said "I'm better at life than you" because Skip shared his opinion that Revis was the better CB at the time.... WTF is that?   That's what 1st graders say... I'm better at life than you"...

If he's not a level 5 prick, he's pretty darn close.

XFACTOR has been known to say "I'm better at life than you"
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Shockwave on January 24, 2014, 05:37:03 AM
You think doing the "choking" motion in someone's face while gloating a win on national TV isn't level 5 prick?  

LOL... I mean, yes, Crabtree is also a level 5 prick... but when you WIN, and you win like an a-hole, then yeah, you're the prick among pricks.   And the way he went on ESPN and said "I'm better at life than you" because Skip shared his opinion that Revis was the better CB at the time.... WTF is that?   That's what 1st graders say... I'm better at life than you"...

If he's not a level 5 prick, he's pretty darn close.
all in response to the other peoples attacks. I call that not taking shit
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: bigkid on January 24, 2014, 09:03:09 AM
lol



I think it's BS that he got a 1400 SAT.  On Scout.com, a recruiting site, it says he got a 990 and a 1060 on a retake.  Not saying he's not smart.  Just think its starting to get sensationalized
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on January 24, 2014, 09:43:24 AM
I think it's BS that he got a 1400 SAT.  On Scout.com, a recruiting site, it says he got a 990 and a 1060 on a retake.  Not saying he's not smart.  Just think its starting to get sensationalized

the gap between 1060 and 1400 is a MILE.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: bigkid on January 24, 2014, 10:24:10 AM
the gap between 1060 and 1400 is a MILE.


I know, its a HUGE difference.  I would trust Scout's numbers from 2006 over the media's number in 2014.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: tu_holmes on January 24, 2014, 12:01:32 PM
I think it's BS that he got a 1400 SAT.  On Scout.com, a recruiting site, it says he got a 990 and a 1060 on a retake.  Not saying he's not smart.  Just think its starting to get sensationalized

Yeah, that's bullshit.

Although, not completely impossible, it's pretty unlikely.

Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on October 19, 2015, 11:48:32 AM
I learned that without adderall, richard sherman sucks.

Did you see the way shermann got burnt on the play late in the 4th quarter?   lost his man, who scored the game-winning TD.

then he acted like a pussycat in interviews afterwards.

Even stephen A Smith, the biggest sherman kneepadder ever (they even did a commercial together), even Smith was asking what was wrong with sherman.


Sooooo I guess we see how good/focused he is without playing on 80 mg of adderall.  Too bad.   I guess without banned drugs, the seahawks have no winning edge.   So much for coach carroll's wisdom.   Cheat + use drugs + liberal everything, seems to be coach's formula.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Twaddle on October 19, 2015, 12:04:00 PM
I learned that without adderall, richard sherman sucks.

Did you see the way shermann got burnt on the play late in the 4th quarter?   lost his man, who scored the game-winning TD.

then he acted like a pussycat in interviews afterwards.

Even stephen A Smith, the biggest sherman kneepadder ever (they even did a commercial together), even Smith was asking what was wrong with sherman.


Sooooo I guess we see how good/focused he is without playing on 80 mg of adderall.  Too bad.   I guess without banned drugs, the seahawks have no winning edge.   So much for coach carroll's wisdom.   Cheat + use drugs + liberal everything, seems to be coach's formula.

Solid "thread from the dead" bump.  I see you're keeping your old thread bumping to the required 2 or less per week.  Good man.

 :D
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on October 19, 2015, 01:34:21 PM
Solid "thread from the dead" bump.  I see you're keeping your old thread bumping to the required 2 or less per week.  Good man.

 :D

sherman was in the news.   it was a solid contribution to this relevant thread. 

many "people" said his skill and ability on the field wasn't due to the drug use, which sherman denied, then blamed other players for, then said everyone does it.

well, without the drugs, sherman is getting burned out there.   "Legion of amphetamine"
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: twitchfibres on October 19, 2015, 01:55:10 PM
sherman was in the news.   it was a solid contribution to this relevant thread. 

many "people" said his skill and ability on the field wasn't due to the drug use, which sherman denied, then blamed other players for, then said everyone does it.

well, without the drugs, sherman is getting burned out there.   "Legion of amphetamine"

Boooom

Great posts 240!
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Thong Maniac on October 19, 2015, 01:56:24 PM
Sounds like a bunch of complainers who have never played a sport at a very high level. I guess u guys have never experienced making incredible plays to win games, and then trying to control how pumped up u are after such an event. Dude was excited and pumped up. Thats what happens. What thr fuck do people expect? "
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on October 19, 2015, 03:09:06 PM
Sounds like a bunch of complainers who have never played a sport at a very high level. I guess u guys have never experienced making incredible plays to win games, and then trying to control how pumped up u are after such an event. Dude was excited and pumped up. Thats what happens. What thr fuck do people expect? "

but since he's been busted for drug use, he's been a zombie in inteviews and burned nonstop on the field.

point is, his greatness wasn't his own drive or his amazing coach.  it was banned drugs which he lied about and blamed others.   Culture of USC/Seattle/Carroll.   
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2015, 01:59:42 PM
Sherman looks so tired without the meth (adderall).

he used to be so focused while taking this banned drug. 
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Dave D on November 29, 2015, 02:45:35 PM
Sherman looks so tired without the meth (adderall).

he used to be so focused while taking this banned drug. 

We should start to question the legitimacy of his Stanford education.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2015, 03:07:12 PM
We should start to question the legitimacy of his Stanford education.

Pretty corrupt morals straight from the top there - everyone on the staff banging each others' wives.

http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/Stanford-Business-School-dean-resigns-amid-affair-6505992.php


Second only to #USC in terms of moral bankruptcy and seediness.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Dave D on November 29, 2015, 03:16:51 PM
Pretty corrupt morals straight from the top there - everyone on the staff banging each others' wives.

http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/Stanford-Business-School-dean-resigns-amid-affair-6505992.php


Second only to #USC in terms of moral bankruptcy and seediness.

Hmmm....

I was just referring to his Adderall use, if he was using it as a professional it's easy to assume he was using it as a student, on the field as well as in class.
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2015, 03:20:18 PM
Hmmm....

I was just referring to his Adderall use, if he was using it as a professional it's easy to assume he was using it as a student, on the field as well as in class.

it's hard to know how many years Sherman abused drugs illegally. 

remember him mocking the 49ers player Crabtree after a game-winning INT?   That was a man with meth psychosis.  Amped thru the roof with the crazy eyes he's always had.  This year, his eyes are soft and calm.  He's a much poorer player too. 

Seattle Times worships Sherman... BUT even they have stopped to ask what's causing this year's monster fall in production.
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/whats-wrong-with-seattle-seahawks-richard-sherman-and-when-will-he-snap-out-of-his-funk/
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2015, 03:57:56 PM
sherman cheats his way to interception #1 of the year.

Shoves antonio brown down, like a typical cheater would.  Then gets the lame duck INT. 

Typical of that city, their coach, and their drug-addled players (and their fans).
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: Set It Up on November 29, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
Jimmy Graham just blew his knee----not like he was doing anything anyways
Title: Re: Richard Sherman - What he taught us
Post by: The Ugly on November 29, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
He's right. Whites know exactly what they're doing when they use this word. If you've assimilated you get the honor of being called a black man and not a thug. Sherman is a loud mouth Hebrew that's good at talking shit. What else is new? Everyone knows a Hebrew or 10 that talks shit. We've always been a very rebellious and proud people. This shouldn't come as a surprise. Most of you here know that on occasion I have the propensity to talk shit at the same time you all know I'm not a thug. People need to learn to separate the two.

Why?