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Title: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: muscleman-2013 on February 08, 2014, 07:34:28 AM
1) BLACK PRESIDENT
2) GAY PRESIDENT
3) MUSLIM PRESIDENT
4) COMMUNIST PRESIDENT
5) WHITE HATING PRESIDENT
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 07:39:25 AM
Trick question. Answer is all of them.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 08, 2014, 07:48:51 AM
The fact that the majority of Americans love this guy shows the direction this country is taking. Hilary Clinton when she takes the next 8 years will run this country into the ground. Disability social security is exploding, Food Stamps, unemployment payments that now stretch over two years, and fewer tax payers every year spells disaster.

The American attitude of working hard at all costs to get ahead is no longer here. It's replaced by what can the government do for me with money they collect from the workers. 
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 07:49:53 AM
Definitely not 1 , he's mixed race.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 07:52:24 AM
Definitely not 1 , he's mixed race.
youre not american, so ill explain.

in the US, if you have EVEN a drop of black in your blood, youre black. Youre part of the black community. Thays how they view themselves here.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 07:59:42 AM
youre not american, so ill explain.

in the US, if you have EVEN a drop of black in your blood, youre black. Youre part of the black community. Thays how they view themselves here.

How many generations does this go back?
If my great great grandad was black, am I black?
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 08:01:40 AM
How many generations does this go back?
If my great great grandad was black, am I black?
I dont really know where the line is. I think it they have any overt negro features (any darker shade of skin, wide flat nose, fat lips, eyebrow ridge, etc), theyre considered black.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:03:25 AM
I dont really know where the line is. I think it they have any overt negro features (any darker shade of skin, wide flat nose, fat lips, eyebrow ridge, etc), theyre considered black.
So you have changed your definition in two posts?
A drop of blood now becomes negro features.
Are latinos black, they have darker skin?

Considered black by who?
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 08:07:31 AM
So you have changed your definition in two posts?
A drop of blood now becomes negro features.
Are latinos black, they have darker skin?

Considered black by who?
it was a turn of phrase ass, I dont know why you come back and decide you have to argue like a chikd with everyone.

in America, if you look black at all, you're considered black by the BLACK COMMUNITY.

of course latinos arent considered black, they dont have black features. Theyre considered latinos.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:08:45 AM
it was a turn of phrase ass, I dont know why you come back and decide you have to argue like a chikd with everyone.

in America, if you look black at all, you're considered black by the BLACK COMMUNITY.
are you black?
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 08:09:15 AM
are you black?
nope. Im red/white.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:10:10 AM
(http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/confessions-of-an-african-american-albino.jpeg)
Where does this guy fit in in the good old USA?
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:11:24 AM
nope. Im red/white.
Russian / English?
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 08:14:12 AM
Russian / English?
Native American/caucasian mutt
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:16:42 AM
Native American/caucasian mutt
Well, are you mixed race or black?
I take it you are darker than the norm?
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 08:18:42 AM
(http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/confessions-of-an-african-american-albino.jpeg)
Where does this guy fit in in the good old USA?
albino black? As I said, I dont know where the skin tone line lies... if his skin was any darker hed be considered black by american blacks. I think hed still be considered black, but probably ostracized by the community for being an uncle tom.

If youre trying to make sense of it, dont. It doesnt make any sense.

Obama is embraced as black by the black community, as is tiger woods. If you have black features they consider you black. I cant speak on the extreme outliers such as albinos.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/morgan-freeman-obama-isnt-americas-first-black-president/

Morgan Freeman agrees with me and hes black.
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First thing that always pops into my head regarding our president is that all of the people who are setting up this barrier for him … they just conveniently forget that Barack had a mama, and she was white — very white American, Kansas, middle of America,” Freeman said. “There was no argument about who he is or what he is. America’s first black president hasn’t arisen yet. He’s not America’s first black president — he’s America’s first mixed-race president.”
Has Morgan been ostracised by the "black community"?
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 08:22:02 AM
Well, are you mixed race or black?
I take it you are darker than the norm?
really? Im considered white. I look white and have no native features, although I have a native roll card and am eligible for college funding/etc.
im 1/8th native I believe.... (great grandma was full blood)
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:22:12 AM
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albino black? As I said, I dont know where the skin tone line lies... if his skin was any darker hed be considered black by american blacks. I think hed still be considered black, but probably ostracized by the community for being an uncle tom.
Uncle Toms are defined by actions not looks.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 08:23:09 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/morgan-freeman-obama-isnt-americas-first-black-president/

Morgan Freeman agrees with me and hes black.Has Morgan been ostracised by the "black community"?
ironcially, proving my point, that most people arent acknowledging that hes half white.

thanks.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Shockwave on February 08, 2014, 08:24:30 AM
Uncle Toms are defined by actions not looks.
HA, ok mr UK know it all.  I deal with these people on an everyday basis, and youre trying to tell me how it is from halfway across the world.

sorry, im done arguing with you, youre a fucking child. No wonder I see you arguing with literally everyone.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:25:01 AM
really? Im considered white. I look white and have no native features, although I have a native roll card and am eligible for college funding/etc.
im 1/8th native I believe.... (great grandma was full blood)
So you are 1/8th Native American and you still mention it as your race?

Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:26:37 AM
HA, ok mr UK know it all.  I deal with these people on an everyday basis, and youre trying to tell me how it is from halfway across the world.

sorry, im done arguing with you, youre a fucking child. No wonder I see you arguing with literally everyone.
Is that you admitting you didn't know what an Uncle tom was?
Muhammad Ali called Joe Frazier an uncle tom, why was that?

"These people"

Very telling indeed.
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Simple Simon on February 08, 2014, 08:27:15 AM
ironcially, proving my point, that most people arent acknowledging that hes half whiteblack.

thanks.

Works either way
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 08, 2014, 08:51:04 AM
1) BLACK PRESIDENT
2) GAY PRESIDENT
3) MUSLIM PRESIDENT
4) COMMUNIST PRESIDENT
5) WHITE HATING PRESIDENT


 ;)
Title: Re: OBAMA - the first...
Post by: RRKore on February 09, 2014, 08:52:58 AM
youre not american, so ill explain.

in the US, if you have EVEN a drop of black in your blood, youre black. Youre part of the black community. Thays how they view themselves here.

True.  And the sad part is that the "one drop theory" comes from the government, originally. 

In the late 1800's, after the civil war, instead of being treated the same as whites under the law, blacks were subjected to official, state-sanctioned segregation laws ("Jim Crow" laws) in many states.  (Separate drinking fountains, lunch counters, back of the bus, interracial marriage prohibition -- the list goes on and on, actually.) 

The "One Drop" rule was adopted to for the purposes of deciding who was and was not subjected to these laws.  (I think the One Drop rule was eventually changed to 1/16 black, but I could be wrong.)

BTW, shit like this (some Jim Crow laws persisted through the 1950's and early 1960's) is why I'm not so quick to chime in when others are telling today's blacks to suck it up because their race's past isn't too much different than that of other ethnic groups that immigrated to the USA. 

(It was A LOT different -- Only group that had it worse were the American Indians.)