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Title: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Skorp1o on February 13, 2014, 03:20:56 AM


1-Arnold Schwarzenneger
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Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: muscleman-2013 on February 13, 2014, 03:23:46 AM
Steve Reeves.

Lou Ferrigno.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: bigmc on February 13, 2014, 03:24:12 AM
I think branch warren is rich

has his own haulage company or something
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 13, 2014, 03:24:13 AM
Guys like Stan Efferding, Rich Gaspari, Jay Cutler and Branch Warren are doing pretty well.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: lastrep on February 13, 2014, 03:27:19 AM
Those whom made / making 7 figures:


Arnold, Cutler, Coleman, Yates, Labrada, Gaspari, Ferrigno, Ray... (yes, Branch as well - but he made it through his distribution business, not BB)


/thread
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: affeman on February 13, 2014, 05:20:13 AM
Dennis James and Dennis Wolf are multi-millionaires as well.

Flex Wheeler too according to his autobiography.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Skorp1o on February 13, 2014, 05:25:23 AM
Dennis James and Dennis Wolf are multi-millionaires as well.

Flex Wheeler too according to his autobiography.

Wasn't he struggling to pay his medical bill back in the day when had to have a transplant?
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: affeman on February 13, 2014, 05:27:08 AM
(http://st.gdefon.com/wallpapers_original/wallpapers/240702_flex-wheeler_bodibilding_tachki_dom_1097x887_%28www.GdeFon.ru%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: affeman on February 13, 2014, 05:30:42 AM
ronnie coleman

100,000 USD home
200,000 USD home gym

worked full time at the police department for all his life

8 x 200,000 mr olympia prize money


some high paying endorsement


must be having a couple millions

The medical and food bill for each and every contest was probably 50k+.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: sososue on February 13, 2014, 05:32:20 AM
Tony Little
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Europe on February 13, 2014, 05:35:11 AM
Rich Piana??

btw why is he bleeding from arms, lats & lower chest???  :-X  :-X
(http://i.imgur.com/UO5uslJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Skorp1o on February 13, 2014, 05:51:54 AM
Lou Ferrigno.

Doesn't he still charge children a tenner for taking a pic? Doesn't strike me like a the typical actions of someone well off let alone a multi-millionaire.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 13, 2014, 06:42:16 AM
Doesn't he still charge children a tenner for taking a pic? Doesn't strike me like a the typical actions of someone well off let alone a multi-millionaire.

You' be surprised how money hungry some Millionaires are.



WoooSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 13, 2014, 06:44:42 AM
Labrada is probably number two on that list
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: galeniko on February 13, 2014, 06:55:35 AM
i know a gymr at bbuilder whpo earns abotu 50k usd monthly doesn that count
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 13, 2014, 07:10:45 AM
Lou Ferrigno doesn't have as much money as people think and he's definitely not making 7 figures a year....maybe about 50-75k at this point but he's a millionaire...maybe 3-4

Ronnie Coleman is a multi-millionaire....mostly from guest posing

Branch Warren makes in the high 6's but not a millionaire

Rich Gaspari is prob at 20 million

Flex Wheeler owes more than he makes.

Shawn Ray invested his money wisely to where it makes no difference.  Gets a decent check from Blechman though   



One person who should definitely be on the list is  Gary Strydom.  He made a ton of money from the WBF and was still getting paid after its demise because he was kept on to sell the ICOPRO supplements. 
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 13, 2014, 07:11:26 AM
i know a gymr at bbuilder whpo earns abotu 50k usd monthly doesn that count

We need his full name, business activity and exact location :D
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 13, 2014, 07:16:30 AM
Ronnie Coleman is a multi-millionaire....mostly from guest posing

LOL, you idiot

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Branch Warren makes in the high 6's but not a millionaire

You've seen his Texas range? He's def loaded with his cargo company.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: G_Thang on February 13, 2014, 07:16:42 AM
Stan Efferding


His money has nothing to do with bbing.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Skorp1o on February 13, 2014, 07:18:40 AM
I'm curious to know who made money facilitated by Bodybuilding as obviously bodybuilding alone doesn't generate the income to become a millionaire as such unlike top UFC fighters (although peanuts compared to boxing). Look at lance armstrong he was worth around 70mil before, all from cycling revenues, mostly from sponsorships and endorsements and then did talks on the side...etc.

To me, it seems money either came from becoming an entrepreneur using your name as a brand (supps company) or acting (only arnie in this case)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 13, 2014, 07:18:59 AM

His money has nothing to do with bbing.

I know, he sold his telco, but the type of business wasn't limited to BB by the OP.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: G_Thang on February 13, 2014, 07:21:38 AM
I know, he sold his telco, but the type of business wasn't limited to BB by the OP.

I'm curious to know who made money facilitated by Bodybuilding as obviously bodybuilding alone doesn't generate the income to become a millionaire

this is what i'm saying.  everyone one on the list starts with bbing.  stan entered bbing after the fact and came up with the bullshit "strongest" title.   
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: wild willie on February 13, 2014, 07:27:00 AM
gary strydom and dean tornabene
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 13, 2014, 07:29:03 AM
this is what i'm saying.  everyone one on the list starts with bbing.  stan entered bbing after the fact and came up with the bullshit "strongest" title.  

Now I see. Well, then the list is limited by some huge supplement brand owners, gym chain owners and steroid dealers.
Most BBers fall in the last category  ;D
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: TheShape on February 13, 2014, 07:42:56 AM
Ferrigno is only worth 1-2 million.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Ronnie Rep on February 13, 2014, 07:54:10 AM
Ferrigno is only worth 1-2 million.
Bullshit! Where do they get these numbers? Pure speculation!
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 13, 2014, 07:54:50 AM
LOL, you idiot

You've seen his Texas range? He's def loaded with his cargo company.


When the Arabs are paying 100-150k a pop for Ronnie to appear, then it adds up.  Ronnie made a killing in those foreign countries.

As far as Branch's house is concerned....its all about location and large houses are the norm in Texas and can be bought for a very reasonable price.  He likely spent no more than 350k on it
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 13, 2014, 07:55:49 AM
Bullshit! Where do they get these numbers? Pure speculation!

OMR might know more.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Alpine on February 13, 2014, 08:07:51 AM
Rich Piana??

btw why is he bleeding from arms, lats & lower chest???  :-X  :-X
(http://i.imgur.com/UO5uslJ.jpg)

Nice Star Arm Pit tats.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: TheShape on February 13, 2014, 08:41:15 AM
Bullshit! Where do they get these numbers? Pure speculation!

Every website has the same. http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/lou-ferrigno-net-worth/
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 13, 2014, 08:48:53 AM

When the Arabs are paying 100-150k a pop for Ronnie to appear, then it adds up.  Ronnie made a killing in those foreign countries.

As far as Branch's house is concerned....its all about location and large houses are the norm in Texas and can be bought for a very reasonable price.  He likely spent no more than 350k on it

Was Ronnie invited more than 10 times? Guess not. His supp company isn't a success, so he might end poorly, just like Flex.
Regarding Branch, I don't know the exact living standard in Texas, but I guess not everyone there has a huge range.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: akers1021 on February 13, 2014, 09:32:09 AM
Lou Ferrigno doesn't have as much money as people think and he's definitely not making 7 figures a year....maybe about 50-75k at this point but he's a millionaire...maybe 3-4

Ronnie Coleman is a multi-millionaire....mostly from guest posingBranch Warren makes in the high 6's but not a millionaire

Rich Gaspari is prob at 20 million

Flex Wheeler owes more than he makes.

Shawn Ray invested his money wisely to where it makes no difference.  Gets a decent check from Blechman though   



One person who should definitely be on the list is  Gary Strydom.  He made a ton of money from the WBF and was still getting paid after its demise because he was kept on to sell the ICOPRO supplements. 

Dude you really are a moron....most TOP pro's including Cutler, Coleman and HEath have said IN PERSON they make between 3k and 5k for a guest posing appearance, they get comped a room and a rental car from most promoters.  I guess they do 200 appearances a year... ::)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: akers1021 on February 13, 2014, 09:34:23 AM

When the Arabs are paying 100-150k a pop for Ronnie to appear, then it adds up.  Ronnie made a killing in those foreign countries.

As far as Branch's house is concerned....its all about location and large houses are the norm in Texas and can be bought for a very reasonable price.  He likely spent no more than 350k on it

THey DONT pay him 150k for a guest posing, you're an idiot....
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: funk51 on February 13, 2014, 12:10:35 PM

1-Arnold Schwarzenneger
2- jack lalanne
3-harold zinkin 4-william smith
5-joe weider
6-bob hoffman
7-james hellwig
8-john cena
9-reg park
10-ronnie coleman


Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Henda on February 14, 2014, 03:09:49 AM
Branch house worth 350k ??
You couldnt buy the materials to build the fucker for 350k.
Not sure what material cost over in the u.s im pretty sure its not going to be signifigantly less.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Skorp1o on February 14, 2014, 03:19:51 AM
Branch house worth 350k ??
You couldnt buy the materials to build the fucker for 350k.
Not sure what material cost over in the u.s im pretty sure its not going to be signifigantly less.

Labourers are cheap in texas....they have lots of mexicans grafting for minimum wage. add to that not so expensive land and I can see how you can achieve this, may be 350 is a stretch but could be not far off
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 14, 2014, 05:13:52 AM
Dude you really are a moron....most TOP pro's including Cutler, Coleman and HEath have said IN PERSON they make between 3k and 5k for a guest posing appearance, they get comped a room and a rental car from most promoters.  I guess they do 200 appearances a year... ::)


Foreigners pay a lot more but you need to realize that if Cutler, Coleman, Heath really admitted the exact amount they were making, then they would have pay the government about 50% in taxes.....that's why they claim that 3-5k bullshit.  In addition, not all compensation is of monetary value.  Why do you think that Ronnie traveled overseas for almost 3 years straight guest posing for???   They pay more and its more easier to hide that money from the U.S government to avoid taxes

And yes, Arabs will pay bodybuilders in the 6 figures because when you have billions of dollars, an amount like that is just chump change.  That's why you see all of these pros going to these Arab countries.  They drop in, get treated like royalty, make a cool stash, and then stash it away in a foreign account...tax free.  Then they'll claim that they only made 3k or some bullshit amount

You're the one that's boneheaded enough to believe that....guess you also believe that they don't take steroids neither.   ;D
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 14, 2014, 02:22:31 PM
ronnie coleman

100,000 USD home
200,000 USD home gym

worked full time at the police department for all his life

8 x 200,000 mr olympia prize money


some high paying endorsement


must be having a couple millions

US $ 100 000 house  ;D not in Malibu
8x200 000 - tax  ;)

Ah, AnalBolichalo  :P
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Megalodon on February 14, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
Schwarzenegger
Weider
Gold
Eiferman
Gaspari
Ferrigno
Reeves
Lurie
Balik
Tanny
Labrada
Columbu
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 14, 2014, 02:26:22 PM
8(?) kids, unsuccessful company (coach gone, athletes gone, no publicity)... sure, Ronaldo is doing just fine ::)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 14, 2014, 02:31:02 PM
Arnold's 'business' tour of Australia 2013:
-private lunch with Her A.S. was $ 20 000

-nobody would pay for guest posing more than $ 5OOO
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Simple Simon on February 14, 2014, 02:34:18 PM
Arnold's 'business' tour of Australia 2013:
-private lunch with Her A.S. was $ 20 000

-nobody would pay for guest posing more than $ 5OOO
That includes Ralf Mollars expenses.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Voici Le Rédempteur on February 14, 2014, 02:38:33 PM
Flex Wheeler too according to his autobiography.

mmm no. Ken lives in a 2200 sqft house in Gilroy, CA. Stable but sober life.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 14, 2014, 02:53:41 PM
That includes Ralf Mollars expenses.

No needs for bodyguards in Perth  ;), only 1 couple booked 1 on 1 lunch.
Arnolds on camera comment was: every one  here is so big (miners)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: HonestBob on February 14, 2014, 02:54:38 PM
Gaspari sold the supplement business for $150 million.

I assume he owned a decent % of that and then it all comes to whether there was much debt with the business.

He is certainly one of the most successful bodybuilders of all time to make money related to bodybuilding.

Tony Little is I believe the highest paid ex bodybuilder currently.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Megalodon on February 14, 2014, 03:10:49 PM


Joe Weider not as wealthy as presumed:




http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/10/joe-weider-will-estate/  (http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/10/joe-weider-will-estate/)



Who could possibly be upset at amassing a $35 million fortune in their lifetime? Bodybuilding icon Joe Weider ... 'cause he should be worth WAYYYYY more than that.

TMZ has obtained Weider's will -- filed with the court after he passed away in March at the age of 93. According to the docs, Weider's estate was worth $35 mil.

So, why is the $35 million smackeroos a bit of a disappointment?? Allow us to explain:

First, Weider was the undisputed KING of bodybuilding for more than 50 years and slapped his name on everything from dumbbells to workout gloves. Cha-ching.

Next ... Weider not only co-founded the Mr. Olympia contest, he launched multiple uber-successful fitness magazines including Muscle & Fitness, Shape and Men's Fitness. Cha-Ching.

But the biggest reason we're shocked at the number -- Joe founded Weider Nutrition in 1936 (which many consider the first sports nutrition company) ... which later became Schiff Nutrition International ... which was bought out by a German food company in 2012 for $1.4 BILLION!

CHA-CHIIIIIINNNNNGGGGG!!!!

Problem is ... judging from his will, it appears Joe may have gotten rid of his ownership in the company before it blew up ... and in his final days, he was forced to live on his meager $35 million.

Sad ...

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/10/joe-weider-will-estate/#ixzz2tLBh9i33
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 14, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
Gaspari sold the supplement business for $150 million.

I assume he owned a decent % of that and then it all comes to whether there was much debt with the business.

He is certainly one of the most successful bodybuilders of all time to make money related to bodybuilding.

Tony Little is I believe the highest paid ex bodybuilder currently.


Oh yea...forgot about old Tony Little.  He's at a quarter billion right now
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Megalodon on February 14, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
multi millionaire jake steinfeld body by jake

(http://cc.pbsstatic.com/l/15/3215/9780671503215.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Megalodon on February 14, 2014, 04:13:30 PM
bodybuilder arthur jones

(http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/Photos/Arthur%20%26%20Casey.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: davej1963 on February 14, 2014, 04:26:01 PM
Branch house worth 350k ??
You couldnt buy the materials to build the fucker for 350k.
Not sure what material cost over in the u.s im pretty sure its not going to be signifigantly less.

Branch Warren's house is worth  $913,451 according to zillow.com, a reliable source.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/735-Copper-Woods-Ln-Lewisville-TX-75077/54017086_zpid/ (ftp://http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/735-Copper-Woods-Ln-Lewisville-TX-75077/54017086_zpid/)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Voici Le Rédempteur on February 16, 2014, 12:25:08 PM
multi millionaire jake steinfeld body by jake

(http://cc.pbsstatic.com/l/15/3215/9780671503215.jpg)

I met Jake a couple of times. Good jew.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: jude2 on February 16, 2014, 05:46:54 PM
Branch Warren's house is worth  $913,451 according to zillow.com, a reliable source.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/735-Copper-Woods-Ln-Lewisville-TX-75077/54017086_zpid/ (ftp://http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/735-Copper-Woods-Ln-Lewisville-TX-75077/54017086_zpid/)
No shit. These clowns claiming 350k don"t have a clue about property value.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 16, 2014, 06:04:44 PM
you dont get taxed on olympic earnings because you serve your country

Stupid Leopold, Mr.Olympia is NOT an I.O.C. event  ::)
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: old-school-lifter on February 16, 2014, 10:07:31 PM
Ferrigno is only worth 1-2 million.

Lou's prob worth a lot less
He's a B grade celebrity who has to do  the comic convention/toy/B grade sci fi movie circuit to pay the bills

if he was a millionaire he wouldnt have to do this
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 17, 2014, 12:29:31 AM
Bob Chickey chickey boom boom
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: SF1900 on February 17, 2014, 12:40:01 AM
Rich Gaspari. Has to have a few million due to his supplement line.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: akers1021 on February 17, 2014, 05:28:58 AM

Foreigners pay a lot more but you need to realize that if Cutler, Coleman, Heath really admitted the exact amount they were making, then they would have pay the government about 50% in taxes.....that's why they claim that 3-5k bullshit.  In addition, not all compensation is of monetary value.  Why do you think that Ronnie traveled overseas for almost 3 years straight guest posing for???   They pay more and its more easier to hide that money from the U.S government to avoid taxes

And yes, Arabs will pay bodybuilders in the 6 figures because when you have billions of dollars, an amount like that is just chump change.  That's why you see all of these pros going to these Arab countries.  They drop in, get treated like royalty, make a cool stash, and then stash it away in a foreign account...tax free.  Then they'll claim that they only made 3k or some bullshit amountYou're the one that's boneheaded enough to believe that....guess you also believe that they don't take steroids neither.   ;D

Ronnie never traveled for 3 years straight you damn idiot....

I suppose you're their accountants as well so you know how much in tax they filed???

Ok Vince......here we go.. "sigh" i have eaten dinner along with numerous other TN judges and competitors with Branch, Johnnie, Dex when they guest posed at the TN venues and they have ALL said people that think these guys make a fortune are just simply stupid (like yourself) the biggest amount of money Ronnie EVER made going oveseas was said OUT OF RONNIE'S  mouth to  Dexter to have been be 25k. I dont understand where you get these numbers unless its out of a magazine along with their workouts that they say they do also??? You simply need to not go any further here because you have simply NO FUCKING idea what you're talking about.......just keep grabbing make believe numbers out of the sky, kinda like your profit of bee pollen...
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Voici Le Rédempteur on February 18, 2014, 08:48:08 PM
Ronnie never traveled for 3 years straight you damn idiot....

I suppose you're their accountants as well so you know how much in tax they filed???

Ok Vince......here we go.. "sigh" i have eaten dinner along with numerous other TN judges and competitors with Branch, Johnnie, Dex when they guest posed at the TN venues and they have ALL said people that think these guys make a fortune are just simply stupid (like yourself) the biggest amount of money Ronnie EVER made going oveseas was said OUT OF RONNIE'S  mouth to  Dexter to have been be 25k. I dont understand where you get these numbers unless its out of a magazine along with their workouts that they say they do also??? You simply need to not go any further here because you have simply NO FUCKING idea what you're talking about.......just keep grabbing make believe numbers out of the sky, kinda like your profit of bee pollen...

LOLzz @some sense put back in this place. The #disillusion runs high on here.
Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: Slik on February 18, 2014, 09:07:21 PM
Gerard Dente owns MHP. That's a good no nonsense sup line. They're whey uses stevia n van is great.
Jack LaLane directly from bb n fitness
Sean Connery got his start in bb
Ray thunder stern was a multi millionaire too



Title: Re: Top 10 multi-millionaire Bodybuilders of all time
Post by: WalterWhite on February 18, 2014, 09:18:24 PM
Branch Warren's house is worth  $913,451 according to zillow.com, a reliable source.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/735-Copper-Woods-Ln-Lewisville-TX-75077/54017086_zpid/ (ftp://http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/735-Copper-Woods-Ln-Lewisville-TX-75077/54017086_zpid/)

I suppose we won't know for sure until he sells it.

http://www.homes.com/property/735-copper-woods-ln-lewisville-tx-75077/id-500018775074/