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8 L.A. officers won’t be punished for firing 103 times on two unarmed women
Posted by Faith Braverman on 18 Feb 2014 / 85 Comments
LOS ANGELES, CA– Some may remember the harrowing case of cop-killer Christopher Dorner. Last year the former cop went on a rampage in California, sending people into a heightened state of vigilance. Yet the actions taken by eight LAPD officers stray from vigilance into excessive use of deadly force.
While guarding a high-ranking officer they feared was on Dorner’s hit list, the officers happened upon two women who were delivering newspapers in a blue Toyota Tacoma pickup truck. The officers apparently mistook the truck for Dorner’s, even though he drove a charcoal Nissan Titan pickup truck.
With no warning, the eight officers unleashed a hail of bullets, firing 103 times at the truck carrying Margie Carranza and her 71-year-old mother Emma Hernandez. Carranza, then 47, was cut by flying glass, her mother was shot in the back. Miraculously, both women survived.
None of officers will be fired, or even suspended for failing to identify themselves as police or to ensure the car was indeed Dorner’s before opening fire. They will only be required to take a little more training.
read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/8-l-officers-wont-punished-firing-103-times-two-unarmed-women/#axzz2thsgeYmu
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Hahha, and the libs only want police to have guns.
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how the heck did they live thru that. amazing.
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I'm not sure what the hell they're teaching at these Police Academies but they're friggen failing.
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Sounds excessive, but very easy to be a MMQB. Split second decisions in real time can be pretty darn difficult.
Feel bad for the two women, but "mother and daughter, though traumatized, received a settlement from the LAPD for $4.2 million dollars."
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These idiots belong in jail for 10 years each
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8 L.A. officers won’t be punished for firing 103 times on two unarmed women
Posted by Faith Braverman on 18 Feb 2014 / 85 Comments
LOS ANGELES, CA– Some may remember the harrowing case of cop-killer Christopher Dorner. Last year the former cop went on a rampage in California, sending people into a heightened state of vigilance. Yet the actions taken by eight LAPD officers stray from vigilance into excessive use of deadly force.
While guarding a high-ranking officer they feared was on Dorner’s hit list, the officers happened upon two women who were delivering newspapers in a blue Toyota Tacoma pickup truck. The officers apparently mistook the truck for Dorner’s, even though he drove a charcoal Nissan Titan pickup truck.
With no warning, the eight officers unleashed a hail of bullets, firing 103 times at the truck carrying Margie Carranza and her 71-year-old mother Emma Hernandez. Carranza, then 47, was cut by flying glass, her mother was shot in the back. Miraculously, both women survived.
None of officers will be fired, or even suspended for failing to identify themselves as police or to ensure the car was indeed Dorner’s before opening fire. They will only be required to take a little more training.
read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/8-l-officers-wont-punished-firing-103-times-two-unarmed-women/#axzz2thsgeYmu
Jeez, what do cops from that department get punished for then?
Cuz it seem like, well:
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Jeez, what do cops from that department get punished for then?
Cuz it seem like, well:
Nothing. Cops get away with almost anything because they have a gullible and naïve public backing them.
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Nothing. Cops get away with almost anything because they have a gullible and naïve public backing them.
what do you think about ex-cops that illegally carry firearms into govt buildings, and worse, leave them behind?
they're clearly breaking the law also.
Yet you think ex-cops like the dude in colorado should receive special treatment that the rest of us would not.
No - they should have called the guy on the qt and given it back so he doesn't have to deal w the Stasi.
If 333386 or 240 carries a gun into a govt building, we going to jail, my friend.
So are you backing the cops here (ex cop breaking the law, actually), or not?
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Don't agree w either - the collegue should have helped the other and and helped him get his gun back wo issue
what do you think about ex-cops that illegally carry firearms into govt buildings, and worse, leave them behind?
they're clearly breaking the law also.
Yet you think ex-cops like the dude in colorado should receive special treatment that the rest of us would not.
If 333386 or 240 carries a gun into a govt building, we going to jail, my friend.
So are you backing the cops here (ex cop breaking the law, actually), or not?
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Don't agree w either - the collegue should have helped the other and and helped him get his gun back wo issue
Bullshit. Ex-cops and politicians should have worked to hide the fact this excop politician didn't follow the law?
No. total crap right there.
You're endorsing a coverup. Why? Cause you don't like the law. I suppose you're cool with drug dealers and drive-by shooters doing it too? Or are you just okay with excop politicians not having to follow the laws that we do? Do you think that building security would have quietly covered up the crime if YOU or I did it? nope.
But hey, just admit - you think ex cops and politicians should be exempt from gun laws that apply to us?
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Bullshit. Ex-cops and politicians should have worked to hide the fact this excop politician didn't follow the law?
No. total crap right there.
You're endorsing a coverup. Why? Cause you don't like the law. I suppose you're cool with drug dealers and drive-by shooters doing it too? Or are you just okay with excop politicians not having to follow the laws that we do? Do you think that building security would have quietly covered up the crime if YOU or I did it? nope.
But hey, just admit - you think ex cops and politicians should be exempt from gun laws that apply to us?
but he's the first one on here posting stories of cop coverups ::)
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but he's the first one on here posting stories of cop coverups ::)
All police cover-ups should be prosecuted. Same with politician cover-ups. Same with all americans.
If you disagree with "no carry in public govt buildings", then you work to change the law. And I have to ask if 333386 would still be cool with a 21-year old Trayvon martin carrying twin loaded .45s into a court room. ???
Sorry, but the slope is too slippery. If you break the law, you need to be prosecuted. Exceptions are bullshit.
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What does a guy leaving his gun on his chair have to do with 2 dumb cops firing 102 rounds into an innocent civilians vehicle?
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What does a guy leaving his gun on his chair have to do with 2 dumb cops firing 102 rounds into an innocent civilians vehicle?
he illegally carried that weapon into a govt building.
in both cases, cops/ex-cops were excused from breaking laws because, well, they're LEO.
And even these idiot trigger-happy cops *could* justify it with their feear. (believable, who knows, but they are given that discretion)
The politician, well, it was a calm happy day, he just chose to ignore gun laws that apply to everyone else. Felony. No discretion, no gray area, no confusion or fear or anything else. He ignored the law.
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I have no problem with someone not being punished for a weak, pointless law.
Should we punish you for not coming to a complete stop at all stop signs? Its the law!
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I have no problem with someone not being punished for a weak, pointless law.
I dunno... Should a person be able to carry twin glocks into a court room? Should I be allowed to pack heat while visiting moms in jail for welfare fraud? Should I be able to carry a gun in police station?
I'm all for reform on carry in govt buildings - BUT we can't just randomly choose. And this dude didn't have a history of saying "Yes, all people should be able to carry in govt buildings!" that I knew of - even though he was working on carry laws, I think?
He wanted to carry but it seems like he was okay with the rest of us leaving the piece in the car.
ALso, we cannot just ignore laws we deem weak and pointless... cause someone out there thinks rape laws are weak and pointless. Some folks think selling crack on the corner is okay. Some folks think theft is okay, if you leave door unlocked. Point of view.
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Should we punish you for not coming to a complete stop at all stop signs? Its the law!
Yes. A person should get a ticket for rolling thru stop signs. Cause if I"m going the other way and I have right-of-way and no stop sign, and I strike the vehicle of some idiot that just "rolled" thru a sign, and I'm paralyzed, crapping in a bucket for the rest of my life, then yes, he needs to be punished.
and my sis-in-law got a ticket for rolling thru a stop sign. We had the same argument. "but you could have been in an accident by rolling thru". "well, I didn't!" That's a weak excuse. I can fire 1000 rounds into the air over a crowded city each day. My defense for it could be "well I could have hit someone, but i didnt!!" Doesn't work.
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How about they put those cops inside a vehicle and have the victims shoot 103 rounds.. Sounds fair as the women aren't likely to be as proficient with guns as a properly trained sworn officer (which those cops probably aren't)...
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How about they put those cops inside a vehicle and have the victims shoot 103 rounds.. Sounds fair as the women aren't likely to be as proficient with guns as a properly trained sworn officer (which those cops probably aren't)...
;)
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In the not exactly numerous firefights I've been involved in....when the other side stopped firing, we did as well. Generally for no other reason then to figure out what the hell is going on.....103 rounds without return fire, these guys are retarded. Did they just unload into the car without ever talking to each other....did u see a gun, they have a rifle...he's in the back seat...something?
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In the not exactly numerous firefights I've been involved in....when the other side stopped firing, we did as well. Generally for no other reason then to figure out what the hell is going on.....103 rounds without return fire, these guys are retarded. Did they just unload into the car without ever talking to each other....did u see a gun, they have a rifle...he's in the back seat...something?
Maybe they were following uncle Jimbo's lead?:
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Every PD in SoCal was shitting themselves when Dohner was on the loose.
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Every PD in SoCal was shitting themselves when Dohner was on the loose.
Agreed.
But doesn't that mean that the scared officers should have thoroughly acquainted themselves with the appearance and license plate # of Dorner's vehicle?
According to folks over at Jalopnik, Dorner's truck was much bigger than the Tacoma (and is in a different class):
http://jalopnik.com/5982580/a-case-of-mistaken-truck-identity-caused-la-cops-to-shoot-two-innocent-women (http://jalopnik.com/5982580/a-case-of-mistaken-truck-identity-caused-la-cops-to-shoot-two-innocent-women)
Here's a 2005 charcoal Nissan Titan like the one driven by Dorner:
(http://cdn.dealerfire.com/stock/CARDIRECTLLC-1N6AA07B25N573076-2005-NISSAN-TITAN-/w_460/h_345/zc_4:3/1N6AA07B25N573076_3eee5aafc3e465a6.jpg)
Here's the 2008 blue Toyota Tacoma like the one driven by the Mexican women:
(http://2-photos.ebizautos.com/used-2008-toyota-tacoma_4x4-doublecab3inchliftchromerimstrdoffroad-8417-7105380-6-640.jpg)
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Every PD in SoCal was shitting themselves when Dohner was on the loose.
Yep...a little bit of fear made the cops shit all over themselves. I can remember when we had the snipers over here (Malvo and the other guy) and no civilians acted like this.
Of course, the victims are minorities, so it seems acceptable in CA to allow cops to act like this.
Absolutely disgusting.
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Making it all worse, the vehicle had been tracked from the highway.
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In the not exactly numerous firefights I've been involved in....when the other side stopped firing, we did as well. Generally for no other reason then to figure out what the hell is going on.....103 rounds without return fire, these guys are retarded. Did they just unload into the car without ever talking to each other....did u see a gun, they have a rifle...he's in the back seat...something?
They must have been scared shitless, I can't understand it. They also burnt the cabin down that Dorner was in instead of trying to apprehend him.
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They must have been scared shitless, I can't understand it. They also burnt the cabin down that Dorner was in instead of trying to apprehend him.
To hear some tell it, they burned down the cabin to shut him up.
IIRC, more than a few people sympathized with his story as it was.
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They must have been scared shitless, I can't understand it. They also burnt the cabin down that Dorner was in instead of trying to apprehend him.
I think every cop ever...was outside his cabin, armed for the zombie apocalypse and wearing as much black nylon and velcro as has ever been produced. We show more restraint on a daily basis in combat then these assholes. 2003 aside...I wish we could just light people up like this...I'd be in Leavenworth.
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Of course, the victims are minorities, so it seems acceptable in CA to allow cops to act like this.
If there had been 2 beautiful, blonde, barbie looking girls in the car, all shot up... I still think the police would have walked.
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1) the fcker deserved to die at the cabin, no doubt about it.
2) they absolutely executed him with fire on the spot - the recordings were very obvious. And if they had been executing anyone else, they would have dug in and investigated. They had a cop killer on their hands, and even in this day and age, sometimes they just let shit go. Nope, they removed all media, they cooked the place in sequence, they wanted to burn him. Not an unfair fate for such a prick, but certainly not legal.
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If there had been 2 beautiful, blonde, barbie looking girls in the car, all shot up... I still think the police would have walked.
Shame on you
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Shame on you
??? I was illustrating that the race of those in the vehicle had nothing to do with it. The "blue" is the only color that matters.
All that media race-baiting about it is just that, nonsense. The police opened fire and didn't care who they hit. And they got away with it. No matter who was in that car, they were beating this charge.
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These idiots belong in jail for 10 years each
This^^^
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... armed for the zombie apocalypse ...
LOL!