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Title: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: blacken700 on February 20, 2014, 05:55:29 AM
A first-term Colorado lawmaker left a loaded gun behind after a Wednesday committee meeting on concealed handgun permits, the Denver Post reported.

Rep. Jonathan Singer (D) told the Post that he found a black canvas bag under the table where lawmakers sit after the committee room cleared out. Inside he found a loaded handgun, which he and the sergeant-at-arms realized belonged to Rep. Jared Wright (R).

Wright, a former police officer, told the Post he frequently carries a concealed handgun inside the Capitol. He said he has the right to do so under state stature as a peace officer. “I feel it’s my duty to be a first responder wherever I am at,” he told the Post. “That’s why I carry it.” But Wright agreed to stop carrying the weapon inside the Capitol after being contacted by Gov. John Hickenlooper's (D) office and speaking with Colorado State Patrol, according to the Post.

Although the Capitol is considered a gun-free zone, the Durango Herald reported last year that it's an open secret between Colorado lawmakers that some colleagues do come armed with concealed weapons.

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Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: blacken700 on February 20, 2014, 06:01:35 AM
he feels it’s my duty to be a first responder,just as long as he can remember where he left his gun  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: Purge_WTF on February 20, 2014, 06:06:28 AM
The way things are going, all of our politicians should probably arm themselves.
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 20, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
Who cares

Sorry that your pansy lib mind got scared cause of the 'scary gun'  ::)
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2014, 09:07:36 AM
carrying a gun is fine, but leaving it behind makes a person a stone cold idiot.  

I've carried a piece for 16 years now.  Have NEVER left it behind.   That shit can be picked up and can kill someone.  You leave your wallet, your keys, but you don't leave your gun.

Aside from the fact he's carrying a gun into a govt building... I'm pretty sure gun permits don't extend to there, but his potential inability to follow the law is another issue altogether.  

LOL @ "Open secret that everyone carries".   Let John Q. Public carry a glock into a govt building in Colorado and see how fast he's doing a year in prison.   Fcking idiot politicians.
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 20, 2014, 09:08:42 AM
Yea its a boneheaded move...but not newsworthy
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: RRKore on February 20, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Who cares
...

This was my reaction, too...until I read that the dude had left his loaded weapon in the room where he'd just had a committee meeting concerning concealed handgun permits, lol. 

(If he'd been a Democrat instead of a Republican ex-cop, I'd be a little suspicious that he did that shit on purpose to make a point, double haha.)

I guess I still don't care but at least the story is amusing in a what-a-freaking-idiot kind of way.
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2014, 09:18:13 AM
Yea its a boneheaded move...but not newsworthy

^^^ This.
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
Andwhy did they go through his bag?  Typical democrat piece of filth.     
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: blacken700 on February 20, 2014, 09:59:26 AM
lol  only not news worthy because it was a repub  :D :D   if it had been a dem it would be on every far right site and you would be posting it :D :D
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2014, 10:01:01 AM
No - they should have called the guy on the qt and given it back so he doesn't have to deal w the Stasi.


But no - like 99.9% of democrat thugs and worthless communist traitors - they turn the guy in - typical. 
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2014, 10:08:05 AM
No - they should have called the guy on the qt and given it back so he doesn't have to deal w the Stasi.


that the mfck are you talking about?


this dude broke state gun laws because he didn't feel they applied to him.  what kind of BS is that?

33, if YOU carry a gun into a govt building, your ass is going to PRISON.  But this dude gets to, and even worse, LEAVES it behind?  No charges, huh?

You or I try that, and we are in a prison cell, dude.  If the receptionist working at this govt building carries a gun to work, he/she is going to prison.  But this dude gets to.

selective enforcement of laws to allow govt officials to ignore the law is bad.  Not punishing them when they leave loaded guns behind is even worse.

Unreal that anyone is defending this guy.  He broke the state gun laws.  Any of us does it, we are in handcuffs.  33, maybe you're cool when obama doesn't obey the law also, right?
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2014, 10:10:31 AM
see, I don't care that he's an ex-cop.  I don't care what his skin color or political party is.

Unless he is a reserve cop with legal right to carry, then the SAME LAWS that apply to us apply to him.  If 240 and 333386 decided to attend this meeting, glocks and all, the 2 of us would be in a jail cell right now. 
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
I agree - but I also am for people looking out for one another to avoid these draconian communist laws


that the mfck are you talking about?


this dude broke state gun laws because he didn't feel they applied to him.  what kind of BS is that?

33, if YOU carry a gun into a govt building, your ass is going to PRISON.  But this dude gets to, and even worse, LEAVES it behind?  No charges, huh?

You or I try that, and we are in a prison cell, dude.  If the receptionist working at this govt building carries a gun to work, he/she is going to prison.  But this dude gets to.

selective enforcement of laws to allow govt officials to ignore the law is bad.  Not punishing them when they leave loaded guns behind is even worse.

Unreal that anyone is defending this guy.  He broke the state gun laws.  Any of us does it, we are in handcuffs.  33, maybe you're cool when obama doesn't obey the law also, right?
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: tu_holmes on February 20, 2014, 10:24:29 AM

that the mfck are you talking about?


this dude broke state gun laws because he didn't feel they applied to him.  what kind of BS is that?

33, if YOU carry a gun into a govt building, your ass is going to PRISON.  But this dude gets to, and even worse, LEAVES it behind?  No charges, huh?

You or I try that, and we are in a prison cell, dude.  If the receptionist working at this govt building carries a gun to work, he/she is going to prison.  But this dude gets to.

selective enforcement of laws to allow govt officials to ignore the law is bad.  Not punishing them when they leave loaded guns behind is even worse.

Unreal that anyone is defending this guy.  He broke the state gun laws.  Any of us does it, we are in handcuffs.  33, maybe you're cool when obama doesn't obey the law also, right?

I agree... It's pretty much just ridiculous.

If you carry a gun, you are to be MORE responsible than the average schmucko citizen.

I had a friend of mine who had his CCP and someone was asking about his gun. He pull the mag out and handed it to them... The new possessor of the firearm in question pulls the trigger and BOOM.

Fortunately, they were in the lobby of a business and the shot went into a VERY old, VERY thick, VERY sturdy wooden desk... No one was injured, but it freaked my friend out to the point he couldn't carry for a year or so.

Everyone was so thankful no one was injured.

He didn't get in any trouble, but he did file a report and what not.

Scary stuff.
 

Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: blacken700 on February 20, 2014, 10:24:49 AM
yeah but he's one of the good guys  :D
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: tonymctones on February 20, 2014, 10:27:09 AM
That's it ban all guns!!!
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2014, 10:28:53 AM
I agree - but I also am for people looking out for one another to avoid these draconian communist laws

You cannot have it both ways, man.  

This guy is carrying a gun, which means he is already held to a higher standard.  When you get that permit, they tell you, life/death resides in that weapon.  You're responsible for more than joe sixpack with a holster full of compassion.

And he's an elected official - i'm sure there's an ethics/morals clause for that office.  Ask Rep Radel about that.  misd coke charge is no biggie if you're working in construction... try that shit in congress.

IMO, it's the culture of "looking out for each other" among ex-cops and politicans (which this man is both) that is the big problem here.  (we'll leave irresponsible gun use out of it).

Dude didn't feel like he had to follow the laws, but if you/me carried a gun into that room, he'd be calling security or drawing  down on us for our inability to follow the law.


Everyone should follow the law.  Not just us peons/ants.  Ex-cops and politicians shouldn't be allowed to ignore gun laws.
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: blacken700 on February 20, 2014, 10:29:11 AM
your the only one that says that :o
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2014, 10:31:52 AM
I agree - but I also am for people looking out for one another to avoid these draconian communist laws

I don't remember this particular politician using his pulpit to call for change in state law regarding gun carry in govt buildings.

Rather, I'd guess he liked the fact Joe Sixpack wasn't allowed to pack heat, should he decide to take out his fury on random govt official.  However, this employee felt that the very useful law didn't really apply to him, cause, well, he's special.

This kind of "good for the masses, but I ain't following it".... it's complete bullshit.  If the law is garbage, he should have used his power to change it.  No, he kept it in place and just chose to ignore it.  I'm sure there are some people in Colorado (and in every state) that are in jail today for carrying a weapon into a forbidden area.  But not this dude.  He's special, right?  What other laws should we let politicians skip because, well, they don't like them?  
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: tonymctones on February 20, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
That's it ban all guns!!!
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: RRKore on February 20, 2014, 10:49:47 AM
Andwhy did they go through his bag?  Typical democrat piece of filth.     

I missed that point (that the congressman who found the bag was a Dem). 

Why is going through the bag a big deal?  Did the bag have a name-tag on it? 

Also, if these guys were on opposite sides of the concealed gun permit issue being discussed at the meeting, you betcha it's fair game for the finder to capitalize on the other guy's dumb move (which is looking dumber and dumber considering the circumstances).

If this were football, the repub basically ran the wrong way and scored for the other team.  Super-unlucky and/or completely bone-headed. 

BTW, because of the stupid way he likely made an important point for his opponents, this story IS newsworthy.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, lol.  Great going, deputy Fife.
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: tonymctones on February 20, 2014, 10:57:33 AM
This isn't even remotely news worthy
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: tu_holmes on February 20, 2014, 10:59:40 AM
Andwhy did they go through his bag?  Typical democrat piece of filth.     

Probably because everyone is all on "heightened" alert over bombs and crap.

Everyone scared of their own shadow.

They didn't want an "Operation Valkyrie" situation.

Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 20, 2014, 11:01:19 AM
My god a disaster was avoided here folks, i mean that gun was out of its locked cage..it didnt try to hurt anyone? Im surprised it didnt 'go off' and start attacking people!!

We were very, very lucky here folks...it just so happened this particular gun was docile otherwise there would have been blood everywhere
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: RRKore on February 20, 2014, 11:02:37 AM
This isn't even remotely news worthy

Disagree.  Man bit dog here.

The way I see it, newsworthy today (with slightly less than 1 billion news sources) ain't the same as the 4 channels and 1 newspaper per city we were stuck with when I was a kid.

This story is more interesting than anything about the Kardashians, anyway.
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2014, 02:22:15 PM
the only news is that some dipshit politician should have been arrested for violating state and/or federal law regarding concealed carry in govt buildings.

this 'good ol boy' culture is a problem.  Why should people follow the law if our leaders dont? 
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: tonymctones on February 20, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
Disagree.  Man bit dog here.

The way I see it, newsworthy today (with slightly less than 1 billion news sources) ain't the same as the 4 channels and 1 newspaper per city we were stuck with when I was a kid.

This story is more interesting than anything about the Kardashians, anyway.
simply b/c its more interesting than whoever kim kardashian is fucking these days doesnt mean its news worthy.

the only news is that some dipshit politician should have been arrested for violating state and/or federal law regarding concealed carry in govt buildings.

this 'good ol boy' culture is a problem.  Why should people follow the law if our leaders dont? 

That was my first thought, shouldnt they have taken this from him when he entered?
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 20, 2014, 05:54:53 PM
Who cares

Sorry that your pansy lib mind got scared cause of the 'scary gun'  ::)

x2

Stupid thing I've ever read, can't believe anyone would post this
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: RRKore on February 20, 2014, 06:33:48 PM
simply b/c its more interesting than whoever kim kardashian is fucking these days doesnt mean its news worthy.
...

Unless she was fucking Bill Clinton or Obama, you mean. ;D

(OMG, if she was fucking Obama SC would be rabid, wouldn't he?, lol)
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 20, 2014, 06:37:21 PM
Unless she was fucking Bill Clinton or Obama, you mean. ;D

(OMG, if she was fucking Obama SC would be rabid, wouldn't he?, lol)

O-TWINK would not bang Kim   - O=Twink wants to bang Kanye
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2014, 07:28:51 PM
That was my first thought, shouldnt they have taken this from him when he entered?

It is selective enforcement of the rules, and it's really shady. 

Suppose John Doe decides to walk up to this very same govt building in Colorado and ask to see his state rep.  Maybe he even has an appointment.  He jokes with the receptionist that this glock under this shirt is really jabbing his ribs.

he's going to jail.  He doesn't get in that building.  They call police if they even see a bulge.  Yet this lawmaker has probably been carrying for quite a while.


I just don't "get" a system where they carry.  I'm from SW Florida... they are about as hillbilly as one can get while not in Tenn.... and there is security at DMV, school district, courts, even the damn public library.

Yet this fcker is special... he gets to carry a gun with a wink and a nod.   And some people think others in govt should cover up his crime.  unreal.
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: RRKore on February 21, 2014, 06:13:02 AM
O-TWINK would not bang Kim   - O=Twink wants to bang Kanye

LOL. 

You sure, though?  Cuz doesn't Kim have an artificially augmented ass? 

What if she had surgeons give her a dick?  Would "O-twink" want some of that, then?
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 24KT on February 21, 2014, 07:07:24 PM
I'm still waiting for Beach Bum to wade in here and talk about how stupid it is that anyone is even talking about this... it was just a simple mistake.
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 24KT on February 21, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
Does anyone know if he had any major beefs with anyone there?

Could he have been setting up a hit? ...depositing the murder weapon in place in advance of the hit?

Oooh... intriguing.  :o
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 21, 2014, 07:15:37 PM
Do you think this would have made the news 25 years ago? rofl

what's wrong with people?
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2014, 07:24:27 PM
would anyone here be mad if a teacher just "ignored" state & federal laws and carried a .45 to school?

would anyone here be upset if people smuggled AR-15s into courtrooms in their jackets?

would anyone here be bothered if a visitor carried a 9mm and 300 rounds of ammo into a police station?

Yes, we'd shit our pants, and the person breaking these laws would be in handcuffs before they knew what hit them.



So it's the law... and why should all of us have to follow the law, but this dude doesn't have to?   

I'm shocked that 33 said the law he obeys shouldn't apply to this politician... usually he's the first one shitting on politicians who think the laws don't apply to them. 
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2014, 07:26:48 PM
I don't like the law, of course.  Let's be clear there.  I have to leave my glock in the car in order to mail a letter at the post office.  total crap and stupid law.

but it's the law... I gotta follow the law, if I expect others to follow the law.  I don't agree with it, but I follow it. 

I'm not defending the law... I'm attacking dipshit politicians who think the law doesn't apply to them.  Maybe this guy also speeds, feeds GHB to teenage runaways, and smuggles dynamite in his rectum... we're okay with all that, right?  cause the law doesn't apply to him, right?

Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: SCRUBS on February 21, 2014, 07:56:24 PM
I don't like the law, of course.  Let's be clear there.  I have to leave my glock in the car in order to mail a letter at the post office.  total crap and stupid law.

but it's the law... I gotta follow the law, if I expect others to follow the law.  I don't agree with it, but I follow it. 

I'm not defending the law... I'm attacking dipshit politicians who think the law doesn't apply to them.  Maybe this guy also speeds, feeds GHB to teenage runaways, and smuggles dynamite in his rectum... we're okay with all that, right?  cause the law doesn't apply to him, right?

I agree with you 240, they are civil servants not royalty.

Around here, our legislatures exempted themselves of the traffic laws for several days before, and during their session.


Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2014, 09:31:54 PM
No - they should have called the guy on the qt and given it back so he doesn't have to deal w the Stasi.

TOTAL bullshit.

Politicians shouldn't have to follow the same laws we do?

unreal. 
Title: Re: Colorado Lawmaker Leaves Loaded Gun Behind In Capitol
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 21, 2014, 10:52:42 PM
TOTAL bullshit.

Politicians shouldn't have to follow the same laws we do?

unreal.  

No one should have to follow unconstitutional gun laws.

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