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Title: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: MassInMass on January 13, 2006, 09:30:14 AM
Does anyone know if Robert Kennedy, owner of Musclemag, has any type of affiliation with Muscletech, besides running thier ads? Does he sit on some type of board or comittee, or does he have any beneficial ownership in the company?
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Karl Kox on January 13, 2006, 09:34:27 AM
MUSCLEFAG is boring Robert Kennedy is a old fart.






 
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Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: MassInMass on January 13, 2006, 09:37:02 AM
I agree...The magazine sucks...
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: tom joad on January 13, 2006, 09:37:47 AM
scientific clinical research has shown that Musclemag is 6497% better than a regular bodybuilding magazine
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: doison on January 13, 2006, 10:00:23 AM
They're both canadian companies. 
They don't have phone lines, or running water up there, so when people know someone, they tend to stick together to the end.  You never know when you'll need each others help in building a new pair of snow shoes.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: gordiano on January 13, 2006, 12:05:06 PM
scientific clinical research has shown that Musclemag is 6497% better than a regular bodybuilding magazine

lol
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: 240 is Back on January 13, 2006, 06:42:48 PM
everyone is in bed with everyone in this industry.

240 or Whore.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: HRDCOR on January 13, 2006, 06:45:44 PM
Muscle Mag is the Best, then its MD then its, Cosmopolitin !!!??

Actualy I realy realy liked the old Muscle Media 2000, the one with D Duchaine writing in it, that was the shit right there !!!
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: sarcasm on January 13, 2006, 07:08:31 PM
only Flex can show you how to put 20 inches on your arms in 10 days.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: flexfan on January 13, 2006, 07:21:09 PM
They're both canadian companies. 
They don't have phone lines, or running water up there, so when people know someone, they tend to stick together to the end.  You never know when you'll need each others help in building a new pair of snow shoes.

LMFAO

I always appreciate any joke that denigrates canada.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: flexfan on January 13, 2006, 07:22:32 PM
I always found musclemag to be a very weird magazine. Almost like a bodybuilding fantasy land. I know all bb mags are like that, but musclemag seems even worse. I haven't read a bb magazine in almost 10 years.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 13, 2006, 07:44:21 PM
LMFAO

I always appreciate any joke that denigrates canada.

i suppose you like to dish ellen degenerate too :o
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: THE BAD GUY on January 13, 2006, 07:46:53 PM
no they have no relation
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Old-Skool on January 13, 2006, 07:53:40 PM
Wrong. Muscletech is Robert Kennedy in a very roundabout way. Why do you think the  entire "MUSCLERAG" is just a f*****n advertisement for that overpriced sh**.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Old-Skool on January 13, 2006, 08:31:04 PM
Me again.....let me elaborate.....Back in the day...long before Muscletech ruined it.....MUSCLEMAG was a very respected mag as it presented a very unbiased opinion of what was going on in a WEIDER dominated world. It was the first mag to openly talk about 'roids, gyno,sex,synthol etc. It covered ALL contests (not just IFBB) such as the NABBA Mr. Universe, AAU Mr. America, WABBA Mr. World. When the judging sucked, they said so. They showcased many young unknown men who went on to do big things in the sport. They had great photography and articles from an international cast of contributors  Despite what you think, you would be hard pressed to find a BIGGER lover of bodybuilding than Robert Kennedy who in the early days endured much financial hardship to keep the mag going.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: nestor on January 13, 2006, 08:45:10 PM
muscle development mag rules it gives it to people straight up no bull shit.... ;)
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Tre on January 13, 2006, 08:52:44 PM
Does anyone know if Robert Kennedy, owner of Musclemag, has any type of affiliation with Muscletech, besides running thier ads? Does he sit on some type of board or comittee, or does he have any beneficial ownership in the company?
MuscleMag is the vanity project - "Hey, I own a magazine that's read around the world!"

MuscleTech, however, is what pays the bills. 
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Old-Skool on January 13, 2006, 09:07:38 PM
Marketing 101 Tre........Musclemag is not the vanity project....it is a 400 page Muscletech advertisement that pays for alot more than just the bills.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Old-Skool on January 13, 2006, 09:20:36 PM
Matt....go to TIM HORTONS and smell the coffee.................. ..........
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Bast000 on January 13, 2006, 09:31:27 PM
The first bodybuilding book I read was by Robert Kennedy.

(http://www.chrysalisbooks.co.uk/assets/covers/0806973927.jpg)
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Mars on January 14, 2006, 01:30:12 AM
only Flex can show you how to put 20 inches on your arms in 10 days.

Haha.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: LatsMcGee on January 14, 2006, 08:04:40 AM
The first bodybuilding book I read was by Robert Kennedy.

(http://www.chrysalisbooks.co.uk/assets/covers/0806973927.jpg)

That book is actually pretty good if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Tre on January 14, 2006, 08:18:47 AM
Marketing 101 Tre........Musclemag is not the vanity project....it is a 400 page Muscletech advertisement that pays for alot more than just the bills.
Perhaps, but remember that the mag came *long* before the magic MT powders. 

Today, however, you are correct - the mag exists for no other purpose than to sell the little fruit drinks and candy bars. 

They built a castle out of their Hydroxycut profits...pure genius.

Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Tre on January 14, 2006, 08:20:03 AM
Tim Horton's is going public from what I've heard.  I'd say it's a wise investment.   :)
Let me know when that happens.  I'm in.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: sarcasm on January 14, 2006, 08:21:00 AM
Musclemag is gayer than a Pilates class with Michael Jackson music playing in the backround.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Tre on January 14, 2006, 08:24:17 AM
As for musclemag, I spoke with Dennis Weiss who writes for the magazine and in conversation assumed Musclemag owned Muscletech, but I was corrected by Dennis. 
From Day One, Mr. Kennedy denied being a part of the ownership of MuscleTech.  I didn't realize that he was still denying it.  

At some point, either the world will believe him or the world will have proof that he's lying.  
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Mars on January 14, 2006, 08:27:55 AM
Gayer then a rasberry stuffed donut melting away on a hot summer evening.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: LatsMcGee on January 14, 2006, 08:28:14 AM
(http://www.barbarakamali.com/homepageimages/072005_MuscleMag.jpg)
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: tommywishbone on January 14, 2006, 10:40:32 PM
Does Robert Kennedy own MuscleTech? Did Bill Phillips own EAS? Did Joe Weider have any financial interest in Weider Enterprises? Let's see... MuscleMag... MuscleTech... they sort of sound similar. MuscleTech ads occupy 48-50 pages of every 250 page Musclemag magazine. I think it's safe to say that Robert Kennedy is MuscleTech.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: bmacsys on January 15, 2006, 04:00:42 PM
Me again.....let me elaborate.....Back in the day...long before Muscletech ruined it.....MUSCLEMAG was a very respected mag as it presented a very unbiased opinion of what was going on in a WEIDER dominated world. It was the first mag to openly talk about 'roids, gyno,sex,synthol etc. It covered ALL contests (not just IFBB) such as the NABBA Mr. Universe, AAU Mr. America, WABBA Mr. World. When the judging sucked, they said so. They showcased many young unknown men who went on to do big things in the sport. They had great photography and articles from an international cast of contributors  Despite what you think, you would be hard pressed to find a BIGGER lover of bodybuilding than Robert Kennedy who in the early days endured much financial hardship to keep the mag going.

Robert Kennedy used to write the books like "Beef It" on the side just to keep his magazine afloat.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on January 15, 2006, 08:46:55 PM
Let me know when that happens.  I'm in.

About 15 years ago, prior to his death, Dave Thomas was is Halifax, Nova Scotia to accept an honorary degree from St Mary's University ( go Huskies ) It was during that trip he had been exposed to Tim's.  Wendy's ( or it's parent company  ) showed intrest and bought all of the TimH's. Just recently ( one or two years ago ) they expanded into the US. 

For a franchisee, they are gold mines

One of it's two foundrs, Ron Joyce, sold some of his stock a few years back for $240,000,000 dollars ( he bought the rights to the whole deal from his partners widow for a few hundred grand and a new cadillac. ) Her kids tried to take it to court.

Dave Thomas's company ( who ever runs it now ) own Tim's, they would need to sell it off, do an IPO and go from there. I'd be curious to see if it comes about.

Beef
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: onlyme on January 15, 2006, 09:01:18 PM
About 15 years ago, prior to his death, Dave Thomas was is Halifax, Nova Sctia to accept an honorary degree from St Mary's University ( go Huskies ) It was during that trip he had been exposed to Tim's.  Wendy's ( or it's parent company  ) showed intrest and bought all of the TimH's. Just recently ( one or two years they expanded into the US. For a franchisee, they are gold mines

One of it's two foundrs, Ron Joyce sold some of his stock a few years back for $240,000,000 dollars ( he bought the rights to the whole deal from his partners widow for a few hundred grand and a new cadillac. ) Her kids tried to take it to court.

Dave Thomas's company ( who ever runs it now ) own Tim's, they would need to sell it off, do an IPO and go frm there. I'd be curious to see if it comes about.

Beef

Dave Thomas was also the first and largest franchisee of KFC.  He then started Wendys
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 16, 2006, 05:33:45 AM
About 15 years ago, prior to his death, Dave Thomas was is Halifax, Nova Sctia to accept an honorary degree from St Mary's University ( go Huskies ) It was during that trip he had been exposed to Tim's.  Wendy's ( or it's parent company  ) showed intrest and bought all of the TimH's. Just recently ( one or two years they expanded into the US. For a franchisee, they are gold mines

One of it's two foundrs, Ron Joyce sold some of his stock a few years back for $240,000,000 dollars ( he bought the rights to the whole deal from his partners widow for a few hundred grand and a new cadillac. ) Her kids tried to take it to court.

Dave Thomas's company ( who ever runs it now ) own Tim's, they would need to sell it off, do an IPO and go frm there. I'd be curious to see if it comes about.

Beef

Dave Thomas was also the first and largest franchisee of KFC.  He then started Wendys
 

ok so HE'S responsible for all the diarrhea :)
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Bronx on January 16, 2006, 05:50:44 AM
MuscleMag does NOT own MuscleTech and vice-versa. And the amount of MT adds in MuscleMag are no different than any other. They all change in each publication from month to month.

Period.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Dreadlifter on January 16, 2006, 06:39:15 AM
With the exception of the over-abundant Muscletech ads, i like Muclemag on the whole.

One thing i do find curious about it is although they're not articles, the Muscletech ads are listed on the contents page.
Not exactly normal magazine practice, is it?
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Bossa on January 16, 2006, 08:45:16 AM
I used to enjoy that Venice beach gossip with Steve Neece where he would tell you what the pros were REALLY lifting in the gym.  You can go into a musclemag store and buy like 10 back issues (mostly late 70's, 80's and early 90's for under $10.  The current magazine is shite IMO.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: bmacsys on January 16, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
About 15 years ago, prior to his death, Dave Thomas was is Halifax, Nova Sctia to accept an honorary degree from St Mary's University ( go Huskies ) It was during that trip he had been exposed to Tim's.  Wendy's ( or it's parent company  ) showed intrest and bought all of the TimH's. Just recently ( one or two years they expanded into the US. For a franchisee, they are gold mines

One of it's two foundrs, Ron Joyce sold some of his stock a few years back for $240,000,000 dollars ( he bought the rights to the whole deal from his partners widow for a few hundred grand and a new cadillac. ) Her kids tried to take it to court.

Dave Thomas's company ( who ever runs it now ) own Tim's, they would need to sell it off, do an IPO and go frm there. I'd be curious to see if it comes about.

Beef

Isn't Wendys a publicly traded company already?
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: bmacsys on January 16, 2006, 02:52:24 PM
About 15 years ago, prior to his death, Dave Thomas was is Halifax, Nova Sctia to accept an honorary degree from St Mary's University ( go Huskies ) It was during that trip he had been exposed to Tim's.  Wendy's ( or it's parent company  ) showed intrest and bought all of the TimH's. Just recently ( one or two years they expanded into the US. For a franchisee, they are gold mines

One of it's two foundrs, Ron Joyce sold some of his stock a few years back for $240,000,000 dollars ( he bought the rights to the whole deal from his partners widow for a few hundred grand and a new cadillac. ) Her kids tried to take it to court.

Dave Thomas's company ( who ever runs it now ) own Tim's, they would need to sell it off, do an IPO and go frm there. I'd be curious to see if it comes about.

Beef

Dave Thomas was also the first and largest franchisee of KFC.  He then started Wendys


Dave Thomas hero and mentor was Colonel Sanders.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: tommywishbone on January 16, 2006, 03:11:53 PM
From the SEC & other sources:

Inovate Health Science Group Inc., licensed TBA Muscletech; located in Mississauga, Ont. Ca
Inovate Health Science Group Inc., licensed TBA Musclemag Inter.; located in Mississauga, Ont. Ca

I'll look for the actual incorparation docs.

I like Robert Kennedy. I think he's 1000x better for bodybuilding than Weider ever was. FWIW.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 16, 2006, 04:01:06 PM
From the SEC & other sources:

Inovate Health Science Group Inc., licensed TBA Muscletech; located in Mississauga, Ont. Ca
Inovate Health Science Group Inc., licensed TBA Musclemag Inter.; located in Mississauga, Ont. Ca

I'll look for the actual incorparation docs.

I like Robert Kennedy. I think he's 1000x better for bodybuilding than Weider ever was. FWIW.

his son douglas is a good man
wrong robert kennedy sorry
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: getnbigger on January 19, 2006, 01:09:27 PM
From Day One, Mr. Kennedy denied being a part of the ownership of MuscleTech.  I didn't realize that he was still denying it.  


Kennedy was going to shut down the mag several years. He went around looking for investors. MuscleTech bought it. Kept Kennedy in as the cover. He stopped offerring the mag for sale. So when he claims he DOES NOT own MuscleTech, he isn't lying.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: tom joad on January 19, 2006, 01:11:33 PM
MuscleTech owns MuscleMag . . . who would've thunk it?
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Norton on January 19, 2006, 03:00:26 PM
MuscleMag is the vanity project - "Hey, I own a magazine that's read around the world!"

MuscleTech, however, is what pays the bills. 

You are exactly right.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: Norton on January 19, 2006, 03:03:01 PM
From Day One, Mr. Kennedy denied being a part of the ownership of MuscleTech.  I didn't realize that he was still denying it. 

At some point, either the world will believe him or the world will have proof that he's lying. 

I don't think he ever had any real ownership but Paul Gardiner keeps Kennedy's hands well greased. And not just from ad revenue.
Title: Re: Robert Kennedy & Musclemag
Post by: slate on December 10, 2012, 03:35:27 PM
robert died