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Do you know anyone who has suffered serious sides from AAS?
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Tbombz. Got the HIV. :-\ :-\
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Tbombz. Got the HIV. :-\ :-\
you think HIV is funny?? He didn't get it from steroids either
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you think HIV is funny?? He didn't get it from steroids either
I never said HIV was funny.
But this is
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I never said HIV was funny.
But this is
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that's hot
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real questions go unnoticed around here and rumours and propaganda run rampant speaks volumes to the educational average on getbig
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real questions go unnoticed around here and rumours and propaganda run rampant speaks volumes to the educational average on getbig
it almost sounds like you should find a new place to hang your hat huh stud
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it almost sounds like you should find a new place to hang your hat huh stud
it almost sounds like your a fucking gimmick homo... who has been here for years.. But due to your inability to fucking socialize like a normal person you continue to get banned and reappear under a different name over and over again
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who has suffered serious sides from AAS
Yes
Prostate cancer at 28, guy was heavily juicing 600mg tren, loads of test and pills and you name it inclduing HGH, could be coincidence, but you don't hear of many prostate cancer cases at such young age.
A close friend of mine had to quit steroids as his kidney had substantial reduced function. He was 40 and an on and off juicer for many years, during the test he was on cycle, he's been clean ever since and so far healthy and all good, haven't asked him about his kidneys since.
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it almost sounds like your a fucking gimmick homo... who has been here for years.. But due to your inability to fucking socialize like a normal person you continue to get banned and reappear under a different name over and over again
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Yes
Prostate cancer at 28, guy was heavily juicing 600mg tren, loads of test and pills and you name it inclduing HGH, could be coincidence, but you don't hear of many prostate cancer cases at such young age.
valid
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[/quote bought time you posted your pic bro... we were all beginning to think you were a skinny little twink... or wait
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Only one dude - said he developed stomach ulcers due to orals. He also broke a vertebrae during training.
Other than that only a few acne people.
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figure out how to quote things correctly bud.
you suck at this. again.
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figure out how to quote things correctly bud.
you suck at this. again.
no not yet bro... don't spend my life on getbig perfecting the art of being a complete degenerate fucktard like you.
Just between you and I how many accounts have you created here over the years
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no not yet bro... don't spend my life on getbig perfecting the art of being a complete degenerate fucktard like you.
Just between you and I how many accounts have you created here over the years
I own two things on this website.
1) the account visualizeperfection
2) your mind, fagget.
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I own two things on this website.
1) the account visualizeperfection
2) your mind, fagget.
lol its funny to watch you become irate... you know damn well it is I who owns your feeble mind. You are a small twink of a woman who only has eyes for men In thongs and you have grand illusions of being a real man one day, however this Is impossible due to your baby dick statue. If I were you I would kill myself because nobody here likes you. We all know who you really are. Youre a weak pathetic small dick, ass eating parasite
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lol its funny to watch you become irate... you know damn well it is I who owns your feeble mind. You are a small twink of a woman who only has eyes for men In thongs and you have grand illusions of being a real man one day, however this Is impossible due to your baby dick statue. If I were you I would kill myself because nobody here likes you. We all know who you really are. Youre a weak pathetic small dick, ass eating parasite
ah yes.
meltdown for me babe.
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I knew one guy dead by heart attack at 37. Other had two cardiac arrests witin an hour at 38 yo. Other cardiac arrest possible heart attack at 37. Both never touched a weight again.
Other ruin his marriage at 25 and went from 115kg to 65kg due to quiting and hipogonadism.. Seems that never lifted a weight in his life.
Other one had several hospital visits due to dehydration during his contest prep and gastritis from oral abuse. He is now alergic to diet foods, he must eat everything with salt, condiments and such. No boiled chichen breast for him anymore.
Ginecomastia in my case. Another one regulary vomited upon awakening in the morning due to anapolon use.
A chick developed cancer somewere near the heart and lungs at 26 yo. Don't know if still alive. Used anavar.
Plus the ones who stoped bodyjuicing misteriously and never told anyone why.
Hernias, tears and cronic tendinitis i lost count.
I live in a very small town and know few people, so you can imagine the legions of busted up fellas around the world.
definatly an heathy "sport"
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I knew one guy dead by heart attack at 37. Other had two cardiac arrests witin an hour at 38 yo. Other cardiac arrest possible heart attack at 37. Both never touched a weight again.
Other ruin his marriage at 25 and went from 115kg to 65kg due to quiting and hipogonadism.. Seems that never lifted a weight in his life.
Other one had several hospital visits due to dehydration during his contest prep and gastritis from oral abuse. He is now alergic to diet foods, he must eat everything with salt, condiments and such. No boiled chichen breast for him anymore.
Ginecomastia in my case. Another one regulary vomited upon awakening in the morning due to anapolon use.
A chick developed cancer somewere near the heart and lungs at 26 yo. Don't know if still alive. Used anavar.
Plus the ones who stoped bodyjuicing misteriously and never told anyone why.
Hernias, tears and cronic tendinitis i lost count.
I live in a very small town and know few people, so you can imagine the legions of busted up fellas around the world.
definatly an heathy "sport"
so is there any correlation between short sides and long sides... I mean I don't get acne, high bp etc etc so does this mean I am better able to take AAS without long term sides ??
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You can fool yourself thinking that steroids are safe an live a happy life.
Some of the examples i named were guys who used within half a gram a week for some months a year. The cancer chick used alot less than that.
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Yes.
I had an ex boyfriend who let his blood pressure get so high that his left ventricle burst.
He now has to see a cardiologist every six months for the rest of his life. When it first burst he almost died.
He still cycles but his doses are lower and he does TRT year round.
He bought a blood pressure monitor and takes his blood pressure every single day twice a day vigilantly.
He can't let his heart beat get too high and doesn't do cardio nearly as much; nor does he go as hard.
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I have seen alot of post bodybuilders crash hard during there off time and literally get nutty,like on the virge of suicide nutty. I never juiced real heavily so I never had a bad PCT or off-cycle time. The only side effect I ever got were some sor nipples once and I took some adex and it went away. a little lethargy when you come off steroids as well that is all I noticed.
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Yes.
I had an ex boyfriend who let his blood pressure get so high that his left ventricle burst.
He now has to see a cardiologist every six months for the rest of his life. When it first burst he almost died.
He still cycles but his doses are lower and he does TRT year round.
He bought a blood pressure monitor and takes his blood pressure every single day twice a day vigilantly.
He can't let his heart beat get too high and doesn't do cardio nearly as much; nor does he go as hard.
He must have been really insecure in the first place and then still to even continue to use despite nearly dying.
What a moron.
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ha.
there are tons of serious sides witnessed many.
lets not forget the indirect sides.
ok heres the list:
-many,many cases of gyno
-many torn muscles, yes ofc this is a steroid side effect,indirectly
-kidney failure, liver failure, almost dead from diuretics
lethargy when coming on or going off is common too,but not "serious"
-unbelieveable acne, hairloss in many
-abscesses, which had to operate muscle tissue out
-strokes and heart attacks,some deadly, boom and the guy is gone
females irreversibly turing into half men
so is there any correlation between short sides and long sides... I mean I don't get acne, high bp etc etc so does this mean I am better able to take AAS without long term sides ??
nah never is it totaly safe.
one example,even 250mg test weekly long term is quite the androgen bombardement for the prostate.
now if you look at the rates and percentages at which normal men eventualy develop prostate cancer with old age, well, no good.
even if blood pressure is good, itd be better wo steroids.
theres no totaly safe dosage expect maybe true honest trt.
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Poeple trying to fool themselves with 250mg a week TRT need to come off that horse shit. I never felt as good as I did when I was totally off, but I looked average lol now Im back on.
People forget that true PCT recovery takes months and months, you need HCG and FSH/LH injections, for some the damage is permanent, hence 200mg every two weeks or even better 100mg a week would fare well and minimise BP and androgenic issues.
Saying that, here's a list of friends I personally know who have had serious health issues and don't train and never took steroids:
30 years old, brain tumour (terminal) currently taking it one day at a time and doing ok.
28 yrs old female friend stomach cancer, now clear
39yrs old burst appendix, almost died had his whole stomach opened up
32 year old ex of mine, we dated when she was about 26, beautiful girl did modeling work back, she had double masectomy (both breats removed) all hair gone and now recovering.
24 yr old normal healthy girl had a stroke, recovered
if the above summarises the risks our bodies are facing, AAS and GH only accentuates our chances and opens exposure to issues normal healthy young men don't usual face at our age i.e. heart, kidney, strokes, prostate cancers, leukemia...etc
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Yes.
I had an ex boyfriend who let his blood pressure get so high that his left ventricle burst.
He now has to see a cardiologist every six months for the rest of his life. When it first burst he almost died.
He still cycles but his doses are lower and he does TRT year round.
He bought a blood pressure monitor and takes his blood pressure every single day twice a day vigilantly.
He can't let his heart beat get too high and doesn't do cardio nearly as much; nor does he go as hard.
Is that why he's now an ex?
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Myth 2 – High testosterone levels increase the risk of prostate cancer. “This is a hypothesis based on a very simplistic understanding of testosterone metabolism and its effect on prostate cancer. It is simply wrong,” Kristal said. Unlike estrogen and breast cancer, where there is a very strong relationship, testosterone levels have no association with prostate cancer risk, he said. A study published in 2008 in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, which combined data from 18 large studies, found no association between blood testosterone concentration and prostate cancer risk, and more recent studies have confirmed this conclusion.
https://www.fhcrc.org/en/news/releases/2012/08/prostate-cancer--six-things-men-should-know-about-tomatoes--fish.html
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Do you know anyone who has suffered serious sides from AAS?
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Do you know anyone who has suffered serious sides from AAS?
I never saved anything for the swim back
8)
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I forgot a buddy of my age who used very low doses of winstrol and ephedrine to cut down once a year for a decade or so.
He has very low natural hormones in his body now at 38 yo and his heart lose the hability to stop before colapsing. For instance if he is cycling uphill and his heart starts reving high he has to voluntarely stop otherwise his heart revs untill explodes.
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I forgot a buddy of my age who used very low doses of winstrol and ephedrine to cut down once a year for a decade or so.
He has very low natural hormones in his body now at 38 yo and his heart lose the hability to stop before colapsing. For instance if he is cycling uphill and his heart starts reving high he has to voluntarely stop otherwise his heart revs untill explodes.
ephedrine's a bitch, anything with a significant stimulating effect can be hazardous in the long run
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Serious sides are dosage dependent and how long you're on them.
Look at all the pros that have died and/or had major health problems... that speaks volumes.
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ephedrine's a bitch, anything with a significant stimulating effect can be hazardous in the long run
Yep. Stims are much worse on your body than roids. I've seen many cases of hardcore abuse of E over the last 30 years. I've also noticed that many are addicted and cannot function with them.
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Yep. Stims are much worse on your body than roids. I've seen many cases of hardcore abuse of E over the last 30 years. I've also noticed that many are addicted and cannot function with them.
very true.
for a few months even when I wasnt worried about my diet in the slightest, I would wash down a bronkaid and red bull everyday. very happy thats a thing of the past.
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I forgot a buddy of my age who used very low doses of winstrol and ephedrine to cut down once a year for a decade or so.
He has very low natural hormones in his body now at 38 yo and his heart lose the hability to stop before colapsing. For instance if he is cycling uphill and his heart starts reving high he has to voluntarely stop otherwise his heart revs untill explodes.
Sounds like a solid medical description.
My heart does the same thing. Makes lots of beeping when I pushes it. I has to stop at times cause it goes beep beep beep and collapses without my stop
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Worst side of steroids is depression when quitting. low test. I don't use stimulants because of the same reason.
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Not necessarily a steroid side-effect, but I have a couple friends who know this guy that started juicing basically from day one since he started working out. He knew exactly what he wanted to do, and that is to compete, so he went balls to the wall with training, diet and drugs. The guy gained something like 40 solid #s in less than a year and was competing/winning shows on the local level. Anyway, after a leg workout one day he was standing on a bench in the change-room, decided to hop down and when he hit the ground both quads tore right off the patella. I guess when muscle grows that fast the joints/tendons don't have time to catch up and become weakened under the stress of the muscle. I cringe every time I remember them telling me this story.
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Not necessarily a steroid side-effect, but I have a couple friends who know this guy that started juicing basically from day one since he started working out. He knew exactly what he wanted to do, and that is to compete, so he went balls to the wall with training, diet and drugs. The guy gained something like 40 solid #s in less than a year and was competing/winning shows on the local level. Anyway, after a leg workout one day he was standing on a bench in the change-room, decided to hop down and when he hit the ground both quads tore right off the patella. I guess when muscle grows that fast the joints/tendons don't have time to catch up and become weakened under the stress of the muscle. I cringe every time I remember them telling me this story.
i wonder if they were fucked up before he jumped?
as in he injured them during the work out and didnt really know, hanging on by a thread so to speak.
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Worst side of steroids is depression when quitting. low test. I don't use stimulants because of the same reason.
nah, only for idiots,they get depressed.
a sane person will know the muscle was leased in the first place and supposed to go again when coming off.
theres a great feel of relief when being off for the secure ppl who dont care if theyre a few lbs less.
sure, everything in the gym and the look relatively sucks when off, but other than that,life goes on, less bloodpressure,less bloat,all good.
agree with the stimulants, ppl should just uhm, learn to diet properly instead.
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Do you know anyone who has suffered serious sides from AAS?
a chap called derek anthony
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Sounds like a solid medical description.
My heart does the same thing. Makes lots of beeping when I pushes it. I has to stop at times cause it goes beep beep beep and collapses without my stop
:D
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I frequently experience the side effect of becoming incredibly jacked and awesome while on AAS.
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nor does he go as hard.
Is that a problem his side or yours?
ha ha ha :-\
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i wonder if they were fucked up before he jumped?
as in he injured them during the work out and didnt really know, hanging on by a thread so to speak.
No clue. Again, don't know the guy, just re-telling what friends told me about him. Could have absolutely have something to do with injury or something to that effect. Its not uncommon to see bodybuilders tear a large muscle, like the quad, by doing benign things. Vic tore his quad getting out of a car (I think?), Branch slipped on wet floor and tore his quad. Those are only 2 examples, and the only 2 I can think of off the top of my head, but its still pretty sad knowing you're a step away from tearing a muscle because they're just too damn big for your frame.
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Sudden or Unnatural Deaths Involving Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids
Anabolic-androgenic steroids (AASs) are frequently misused. To determine causes of death, characteristics, toxicology, and pathology of AAS positive cases, all cases (n = 24) presenting to the New South Wales Department of Forensic Medicine (1995–2012) were retrieved.
All were male, and the mean age was 31.7 years. Deaths were mainly due to accidental drug toxicity (62.5%), then suicide (16.7%) and homicide (12.5%).
Abnormal testosterone/epitestosterone ratios were reported in 62.5%, followed by metabolites of nandrolone (58.3%), stanozolol (33.3%), and methandienone (20.8%). In 23 of 24 cases, substances other than steroids were detected, most commonly psychostimulants (66.7%).
In nearly half, testicular atrophy was noted, as was testicular fibrosis and arrested spermatogenesis. Left ventricular hypertrophy was noted in 30.4%, and moderate to severe narrowing of the coronary arteries in 26.1%.
To summarize, the typical case was a male polydrug user aged in their thirties, with death due to drug toxicity. Extensive cardiovascular disease was particularly notable.
Darke S, Torok M, Duflou J. Sudden or Unnatural Deaths Involving Anabolic-androgenic Steroids. Journal of Forensic Sciences. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1556-4029.12424/abstract
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birgit_Dressel
Death[edit]
According to TIME magazine, Dressel had a very laissez-faire attitude about medication: she stocked large amounts of medicines, and when her mother asked her about it, she said: "These are all harmless drugs. All athletes take them. It's really nothing special."[4] On April 1987, Dressel's condition rapidly declined. She had taken over 100 medications in the last few months, among them steroids.[2] After taking additional medication to relieve back pain, her body went into allergic-toxic shock on April 8, causing rapid multiple organ failure. Due to consistent overmedication, her nerves were so damaged that painkillers were useless.[2] After three days of agony, Dressel died on April 10. An autopsy revealed traces of 101 different medications in her body.[5]
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testicular fibrosis
Maybe you should save just a little for the swim back :-\
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Nasser and kovacs are two that come to mind
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real questions go unnoticed around here and rumours and propaganda run rampant speaks volumes to the educational average on getbig
This site is basically composed of
1) a handful of passive female posters who contribute basically nothing to any discussion ever
2) a couple of moderators who don't moderate
3) an absentee owner who doesn't care that his site is basically a warehouse for trolls/biggots/psychopaths/stalkers
4) 2 or 3 stalkers who obsessively follow people around who bruised their tiny egos by ignoring them
and lastly
5) people who respond facetiously to every topic, with no intention of actually debating the subject but merely derailing it with ad hominems, straw man responses, or picture posts
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This site is basically composed of
1) a handful of passive female posters who contribute basically nothing to any discussion ever
2) a couple of moderators who don't moderate
3) an absentee owner who doesn't care that his site is basically a warehouse for trolls/biggots/psychopaths/stalkers
4) 2 or 3 stalkers who obsessively follow people around who bruised their tiny egos by ignoring them
and lastly
5) people who respond facetiously to every topic, with no intention of actually debating the subject but merely derailing it with ad hominems, straw man responses, or picture posts
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This site is basically composed of
1) a handful of passive female posters who contribute basically nothing to any discussion ever
2) a couple of moderators who don't moderate
3) an absentee owner who doesn't care that his site is basically a warehouse for trolls/biggots/psychopaths/stalkers
4) 2 or 3 stalkers who obsessively follow people around who bruised their tiny egos by ignoring them
and lastly
5) people who respond facetiously to every topic, with no intention of actually debating the subject but merely derailing it with ad hominems, straw man responses, or picture posts
6) closet homosexuals.
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This site is basically composed of
1) a handful of passive female posters who contribute basically nothing to any discussion ever
2) a couple of moderators who don't moderate
3) an absentee owner who doesn't care that his site is basically a warehouse for trolls/biggots/psychopaths/stalkers
4) 2 or 3 stalkers who obsessively follow people around who bruised their tiny egos by ignoring them
and lastly
5) people who respond facetiously to every topic, with no intention of actually debating the subject but merely derailing it with ad hominems, straw man responses, or picture posts
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/SLJ.gif)
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6) closet homosexuals.
not-so-closeted if you do a little homework and dig up their old posts, apparently
seems VLR had a good time doing that with lungren yesterday
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This site is basically composed of
1) a handful of passive female posters who contribute basically nothing to any discussion ever
2) a couple of moderators who don't moderate
3) an absentee owner who doesn't care that his site is basically a warehouse for trolls/biggots/psychopaths/stalkers
4) 2 or 3 stalkers who obsessively follow people around who bruised their tiny egos by ignoring them
and lastly
5) people who respond facetiously to every topic, with no intention of actually debating the subject but merely derailing it with ad hominems, straw man responses, or picture posts
Just because you are delusional in a lot of topics/issues and people laugh at your interventions doesn't mean they are agressive or stalkers.
Sometimes looks like you live in a world of your own or pretend to know things you don't have a clue about. We are here learning, there is no shame in admiting ignorance.
If i laugh at some shit you post it's not to offend you it's because it's really funny.
Best regards friend.
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Yes.
I had an ex boyfriend who let his blood pressure get so high that his left ventricle burst.
He now has to see a cardiologist every six months for the rest of his life. When it first burst he almost died.
He still cycles but his doses are lower and he does TRT year round.
He bought a blood pressure monitor and takes his blood pressure every single day twice a day vigilantly.
He can't let his heart beat get too high and doesn't do cardio nearly as much; nor does he go as hard.
What is this retarded shit. Your left ventricle can't "burst". It can rupture due to a myocardial infarction, but if that happens you die. You can't survive with an exploded left ventricle.
What you mean is he developed hypertensive cardiomyopathy and he has a dilated left ventricle.
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What is this retarded shit. Your left ventricle can't "burst". It can rupture due to a myocardial infarction, but if that happens you die. You can't survive with an exploded left ventricle.
What you mean is he developed hypertensive cardiomyopathy and he has a dilated left ventricle.
Kris Dim barely survived it in 2007.
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Yes.
I had an ex boyfriend who let his blood pressure get so high that his left ventricle burst.
He now has to see a cardiologist every six months for the rest of his life. When it first burst he almost died.
He still cycles but his doses are lower and he does TRT year round.
He bought a blood pressure monitor and takes his blood pressure every single day twice a day vigilantly.
He can't let his heart beat get too high and doesn't do cardio nearly as much; nor does he go as hard.
that was because of your unique blowjob technique
the two-handed lemon squeezer
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Fatal heart attacks prior to 55. Kidney and liver problems. Enlarged prostates at a early age. Torn muscles and joint damage I would guess from getting strong to fast due to steroid use. I guess a steroid user would say it's all genetic predisposition and that bodybuilding drugs are actually good for you.
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What is this retarded shit. Your left ventricle can't "burst". It can rupture due to a myocardial infarction, but if that happens you die. You can't survive with an exploded left ventricle.
What you mean is he developed hypertensive cardiomyopathy and he has a dilated left ventricle. you made it all up prompted by uncle junior
fixed
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My best friend died 2 years ago....knew him since grammar school.
Lifetime athlete and bodybuilder.........I think it was the gear,because he lived a clean lifestlye,almost monklike as far as bad food,smoking,rec drugs,and booze are concerned.
Lots of gear and never came off.
Heart failure at 53 years of age.
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My best friend died 2 years ago....knew him since grammar school.
Lifetime athlete and bodybuilder.........I think it was the gear,because he lived a clean lifestlye,almost monklike as far as bad food,smoking,rec drugs,and booze are concerned.
Lots of gear and never came off.
Heart failure at 53 years of age.
What was his Blood Pressure and Body weight?
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What was his Blood Pressure and Body weight?
No idea about his blood pressure but he weighed around 200 pounds at 5'6" and when dieted down for contests he was around 165 but still nowhere near shredded.
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No idea about his blood pressure but he weighed around 200 pounds at 5'6" and when dieted down for contests he was around 165 but still nowhere near shredded.
Generally heart failure occurs because of chronic high blood pressure. Makes the heart enlarge.
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6-8 weeks out from my first show ended up in the ER getting 4 bags of saline IV after not being able to eat or drink more than a sip of water for 10 days due to inadvertently ingesting a stupid amount of Reforvit-B.
pancreatitis 2-3 times.. mostly due to drinking (while I was on AAS).. the first time left me in the hospital for 10days getting 2mg Diluadid every few hours.
thyrotoxic periodic paralysis due to inadvertently ingesting a stupid amount of t3 over the course of about 9 months. CK levels were sky high and potassium was low enough that the docs were worried I'd stop breathing or my heart would stop. lol... opps. cost me about $160k for a 3 day stay.
aside from that? shit .... I dunno.
my heart is perfect, somehow. lol.. EKG/Echo is perfect.
bloodwork is ok. cholesterol and whatnot.
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Generally heart failure occurs because of chronic high blood pressure. Makes the heart enlarge.
Yes,he did have an enlarged heart.
He was having trouble breathing when going up a few flights of stairs,I told him to see a doctor and he said he thought he just had a touch of bronchitus (sp).......2 days later I called him on the phone and his sister told me he had died.
He never smoked and only had one drink in his entire life,so I believe the gear was the culprit,though it was never established by a doctor..
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I seem to have a always hard enlarged penis from gear.
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Blood work doesn't count for much, if you want to see what gear is doing to your heart get a CT scan done, heart disease will only start messing with your blood-work at a quite advanced stage, even stress tests can be completed quite easily, but the CT scan will show you how your heart is really travelling in an un natural environment where your lipid profile is far from normal, I dont even TRT anymore, I think even that will reduce life span, and Ive been a competitive juicer and an on and off TRT user. The science is now there for you to make an informed decision.
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What is this retarded shit. Your left ventricle can't "burst". It can rupture due to a myocardial infarction, but if that happens you die. You can't survive with an exploded left ventricle.
What you mean is he developed hypertensive cardiomyopathy and he has a dilated left ventricle.
Oh brother. ::)
It was just poor wording you numbskull. ::)
You get the fucking point. Quit being an asshole to fit in. ::)
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This site is basically composed of
1) a handful of passive female posters who contribute basically nothing to any discussion ever
2) a couple of moderators who don't moderate
3) an absentee owner who doesn't care that his site is basically a warehouse for trolls/biggots/psychopaths/stalkers
4) 2 or 3 stalkers who obsessively follow people around who bruised their tiny egos by ignoring them
and lastly
5) people who respond facetiously to every topic, with no intention of actually debating the subject but merely derailing it with ad hominems, straw man responses, or picture posts
The only people in that group I would actually place value on are the bigots(who are occasionally funny) and the pyschopaths(who can be entertaining as well)
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6-8 weeks out from my first show ended up in the ER getting 4 bags of saline IV after not being able to eat or drink more than a sip of water for 10 days due to inadvertently ingesting a stupid amount of Reforvit-B.
pancreatitis 2-3 times.. mostly due to drinking (while I was on AAS).. the first time left me in the hospital for 10days getting 2mg Diluadid every few hours.
thyrotoxic periodic paralysis due to inadvertently ingesting a stupid amount of t3 over the course of about 9 months. CK levels were sky high and potassium was low enough that the docs were worried I'd stop breathing or my heart would stop. lol... opps. cost me about $160k for a 3 day stay.
aside from that? shit .... I dunno.
my heart is perfect, somehow. lol.. EKG/Echo is perfect.
bloodwork is ok. cholesterol and whatnot.
Your like some sort of terminator.
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everybody who has used it or is using has suffered vicious, disastrous, consequences
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Good friend/bodybuilder died at 48 of a heart attack. Wasn't a drinker. Didn't do any drugs other than gear. Doctor said cause of death was steroids.
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At what point do you guys throw in the towel with drugs? It seems like death is the only way any of you will stop.
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The only people in that group I would actually place value on are the bigots(who are occasionally funny) and the pyschopaths(who can be entertaining as well)
I don't find them entertaining when all their replies either consist of responding to posts of people who upset them with cartoons off Google images or discussing penis girth
The racists are kinda funny, yeah. Wiggs is my favorite one.
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there are side effects for using any drug for a prolonged period of time..... only idiots think otherwise
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there are side effects for using any drug for a prolonged period of time..... only idiots think otherwise
right
but there's nothing about anabolic steroids that makes them more dangerous than aspirin or cortico steroids for that matter
it's what people here don't want to believe because it's their personal excuse for not using them
personal fear disguised as health activism
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right
but there's nothing about anabolic steroids that makes them more dangerous than aspirin or cortico steroids for that matter
it's what people here don't want to believe because it's their personal excuse for not using them
personal fear disguised as health activism
Boom!
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right
but there's nothing about anabolic steroids that makes them more dangerous than aspirin or cortico steroids for that matter
it's what people here don't want to believe because it's their personal excuse for not using them
personal fear disguised as health activism
Very well stated, actually.
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people of all sizes, age, and lifestyles drop dead from heart attacks every day
how many of them used bodybuilding drugs? show me the bodies
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No.
Saw my first Dbol about 1955. Wheelbarrows full later I have seen a half dozen pinning infections and several gyno surgeries. Hundreds of men I have come in contact with are doing just fine from 60 to 80 years old. And, I am well. Celebrating 74 years shortly. Some asthma, arthritis and HBP just like my father and grandfather. I still pole vault outta bed in the morning thank you.
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No.
Saw my first Dbol about 1955. Wheelbarrows full later I have seen a half dozen pinning infections and several gyno surgeries. Hundreds of men I have come in contact with are doing just fine from 60 to 80 years old. And, I am well. Celebrating 74 years shortly. Some asthma, arthritis and HBP just like my father and grandfather. I still pole vault outta bed in the morning thank you.
74 years old and still kicking ass!
Nice brotha! 8)
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74 years old and still kicking ass!
Nice brotha! 8)
X2
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right
but there's nothing about anabolic steroids that makes them more dangerous than aspirin or cortico steroids for that matter
it's what people here don't want to believe because it's their personal excuse for not using them
personal fear disguised as health activism
I use steroids in a moderate dosage and I accept they're not doing my health any favors. Only a fool would argue otherwise.
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Do you know anyone who has suffered serious sides from AAS?
no
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I use steroids in a moderate dosage and I accept they're not doing my health any favors. Only a fool would argue otherwise.
So because you think they're not good for you, that means anyone who doesn't share your opinion (including people in the healthcare field) are fools?
Sounds like a typical sociopath's way of viewing the world, bro.
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So because you think they're not good for you, that means anyone who doesn't share your opinion (including people in the healthcare field) are fools?
Sounds like a typical sociopath's way of viewing the world, bro.
My point was clear enough.....I guess it went over your head though?
That'll happen to people on the autism spectrum, I suggest you talk to RAtard for advice on dealing with it
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My point was clear enough.....I guess it went over your head though?
That'll happen to people on the autism spectrum, I suggest you talk to RAtard for advice on dealing with it
What was your point, actually? I didn't see one besides a pressing need to contribute a useless post to a topic that's already run its course by chipping in with a "me too!" reply.
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How do you get this
So because you think they're not good for you, that means anyone who doesn't share your opinion (including people in the healthcare field) are fools?
Sounds like a typical sociopath's way of viewing the world, bro.
from this
I use steroids in a moderate dosage and I accept they're not doing my health any favors. Only a fool would argue otherwise.
truly a fucking idiot.
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He must have been really insecure in the first place and then still to even continue to use despite nearly dying.
What a moron.
HA! beat me to it ;D
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He must have been really insecure in the first place and then still to even continue to use despite nearly dying.
What a moron.
I'm not sure if you can entirely appreciate how important it is to look good in a glittery thong and making muscles in front of a small audience of schmoes.
You really don't get it. >:(
;D
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I think steroids are cool and anyone who disagrees is just stupid
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I think steroids are cool and anyone who disagrees is just stupid
steroids are good for you
can we stop talking about them
thanks
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steroids are good for you
can we stop talking about them
thanks
nope steroids steroids lah lah lah steroids,steroids rah rah rah... ooooh I love steroids
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nope steroids steroids lah lah lah steroids,steroids rah rah rah... ooooh I love steroids
post your latest cycle
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post your latest cycle
500 mg test enat for the last 6 months... most recently upped to 1g a week I was at a plateau and under the advice of a very intelligent life long BB I am now back to making gains. I don't want to brag but Im looking pretty damn good
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yea
thank god for gurus huh
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yea
thank god for gurus huh
well my doctor wasn't helpful and I was gonna do it anyway.. so this way I got some advice from a guy who has mentored me through this journey. If I didn't have his support I would have fallen off a long time ago... I am also on an intermittent fast since last august and the fat loss and the muscle gain has completely transformed my body comp... Also I feel 10 years younger