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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Wrestling Board => Topic started by: Karl Kox on February 25, 2014, 08:59:42 AM
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After seeing him last night there's no way he could work a match and not make it look like garbage.
I was surprised that he didn't have a bigger role on Raw last night.
Thoughts?
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hogan was and is still an icon. that being said his ring skills were always lacking. and he never really improved them from day 1 to the end of his career, witness shawn michaels overselling every move the huckster made in their classic match. i just wonder if ric flair and hiogan would be as big a star if they came along now, the modern wrestling fan has been spoiled and wants to see skillful ring performers either technical or aerial nowadays[guys like benoit, eddie guerro rey misteri, daniel bryan, cm punk etc] course that's my opinion i could be wrong.
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hogan was and is still an icon. that being said his ring skills were always lacking. and he never really improved them from day 1 to the end of his career, witness shawn michaels overselling every move the huckster made in their classic match. i just wonder if ric flair and hiogan would be as big a star if they came along now, the modern wrestling fan has been spoiled and wants to see skillful ring performers either technical or aerial nowadays[guys like benoit, eddie guerro rey misteri, daniel bryan, cm punk etc] course that's my opinion i could be wrong.
I think Flair is talented enough to adapt to today's style, hogan not do much.
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didnt he just have back surgery?
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hogan was and is still an icon. that being said his ring skills were always lacking. and he never really improved them from day 1 to the end of his career, witness shawn michaels overselling every move the huckster made in their classic match. i just wonder if ric flair and hiogan would be as big a star if they came along now, the modern wrestling fan has been spoiled and wants to see skillful ring performers either technical or aerial nowadays[guys like benoit, eddie guerro rey misteri, daniel bryan, cm punk etc] course that's my opinion i could be wrong.
Oh, I agree. Hogan was a spectacle because he was the right guy in the right place at the right time. Standards change with the times. Pro-wrestling is no different. Hogan will get pops today because of who he was, but that character STARTING OUT in today's climate would undoubtedly flop!
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I disagree.
one thing that Hogan was always able to do was adapt and change when he needed to.
for example, look at the change from the red and yellow hero character to the evil black and white NWO villian.
not an easy thing to do given the years of Hulkamania.
and he pulled it off.
in today's climate, he wouldn't be able to do the red and yellow, but he would be able to do something that worked.
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ps you know I am a Hogan Warrior and Ronnie mark, so I will defend their honour at every opportunity hahahaha
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What Hogan did with the nwo and turning into the most hated
Wrestler was pure genius...
Hulk Hogan was the greatest turn from a good guy to a bad guy Hollywood Hogan..
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He looked and sounded rough, messed his words a couple of times, and went through the usual schtick. Even his 'I'm glad to be home' bit sounded scripted. If he's so happy to be back, why not let him talk as himself instead?
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He looked and sounded rough, messed his words a couple of times, and went through the usual schtick. Even his 'I'm glad to be home' bit sounded scripted. If he's so happy to be back, why not let him talk as himself instead?
I really think he was a little nervous.
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i was hoping they wouldnt make his return as scripted and cheesy as they did.
to me it came across as the wwe just getting an old legend to promote the network and further sales. i thought it was a bit disrespectful to him actually. he spent more time talking about the network than he did about himself and his history with wrestlemania.
just a quick 10 mins sales pitch more than anything.
hope he gets a good story over the coming weeks.
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I disagree.
one thing that Hogan was always able to do was adapt and change when he needed to.
for example, look at the change from the red and yellow hero character to the evil black and white NWO villian.
not an easy thing to do given the years of Hulkamania.
and he pulled it off.
in today's climate, he wouldn't be able to do the red and yellow, but he would be able to do something that worked.
Good points, but he already has the foundation. His history factors into his acceptance of fans today. Without the privilege of being "Hulk Hogan," I honestly believe he'd have a tougher time starting out today. Even the whole "Hollywood Hogan" angle was built around his laurels from the 80's.
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i was hoping they wouldnt make his return as scripted and cheesy as they did.
to me it came across as the wwe just getting an old legend to promote the network and further sales. i thought it was a bit disrespectful to him actually. he spent more time talking about the network than he did about himself and his history with wrestlemania.
just a quick 10 mins sales pitch more than anything.
hope he gets a good story over the coming weeks.
Good point.
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i was hoping they wouldnt make his return as scripted and cheesy as they did.
to me it came across as the wwe just getting an old legend to promote the network and further sales. i thought it was a bit disrespectful to him actually. he spent more time talking about the network than he did about himself and his history with wrestlemania.
just a quick 10 mins sales pitch more than anything.
hope he gets a good story over the coming weeks.
when he left the wwe for wcw they used to call him the huckster in the skits with billionaire ted, so who better to promote the network. the nacho man is no longer with us. oh yeah. rip in peace randy savage[poffo].
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I disagree.
one thing that Hogan was always able to do was adapt and change when he needed to.
for example, look at the change from the red and yellow hero character to the evil black and white NWO villian.
not an easy thing to do given the years of Hulkamania.
and he pulled it off.
in today's climate, he wouldn't be able to do the red and yellow, but he would be able to do something that worked.
the days of a wrestler getting by on look alone is nearing an end, changing ones clothes isn't much of an adaptation. look how orton and batista are getting booed, with fans chanting same old shit. same old shit. so who knows. just a couple of years ago batista was well liked and up until danial bryan so was orton. call it the danial bryan factor.... ;D ;D ;D
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You know that all of this is making Bryan feel great about himself and things in general!
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You know that all of this is making Bryan feel great about himself and things in general!
it should be, guy is a heck of a worker just hope he doesn't end up like the dynamite kid or worse chris benoit.
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I hope they give the strap to Daniel Bryan at wrestlemania
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I hope they give the strap to Daniel Bryan at wrestlemania
The fans are DYING for it!!!
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The fans are DYING for it!!!
What they should do is Triple H tells Bryan if you can beat me at mainia I'll put you in the main event for the title.
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What they should do is Triple H tells Bryan if you can beat me at mainia I'll put you in the main event for the title.
And then have Triple H win the match ;)
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And then have Triple H win the match ;)
Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Insiders are predicting there's no way Hunter will put Bryan over, but that may be what they're counting on. I honestly believe HHH cares more about the business than his character's ego at this point. His ego is now centered around the good of the company.
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And in just ten minutes...
-he had red and yellow shirts and bandanas in the crowd (merchandise $$$)
-he got his usual 7 minute ovation
-everyone forgot who John Cena was....
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And in just ten minutes...
-he had red and yellow shirts and bandanas in the crowd (merchandise $$$)
-he got his usual 7 minute ovation
-everyone forgot who John Cena was....
Indeeeeed...
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Indeeeeed...
You sound like kungfu nakki...lol...the wonderful talent that he was....
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You sound like kungfu nakki...lol...the wonderful talent that he was....
I'm glad you got the reference. I used to love that stupid gimmick; laughed my ass off every time!!!
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I'm glad you got the reference. I used to love that stupid gimmick; laughed my ass off every time!!!
I got a kick out of big vito and john stamboli. Poorly used talents in wwe.
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I got a kick out of big vito and john stamboli. Poorly used talents in wwe.
It's a shame.