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Title: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: HowDog on January 15, 2006, 06:21:00 PM
Kudos to Mike Morris for going natural but he look like crap compared to the early part of the year.  Could bodybuilding be saved or is it a lost cause.
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: SS on January 15, 2006, 06:30:19 PM
hows this for natural......


(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b202/kegdrainer/wagh006.jpg)
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: ChristopherA on January 15, 2006, 06:37:35 PM
Disgraceful.
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: SS on January 15, 2006, 07:05:51 PM
Disgraceful.
why whats wrong ???
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: BigBlock on January 15, 2006, 07:10:17 PM
Those are some pretty big arms, but I think he meant like competition physique.  I'd check out Skip La Cour and Jeff Willet.
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: SS on January 15, 2006, 07:12:56 PM
ok "big block" ::) oh brother what a name!
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: BigBlock on January 15, 2006, 07:16:17 PM
oh man I'm going to stop liking muscle cars now and change my name because you don't like it :'(

seriously what the hell I give you a compliment and that's how you respond?
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: FREAKgeek on January 15, 2006, 07:17:18 PM
whatever your genes dictate, provided you train properly.
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: The Luke on January 15, 2006, 07:37:35 PM
It's very difficult to give a simple one size-fits-all answer to this question... there are several factors that have to be considered...

...some of them are obvious:
-body type and structure (somatype)
-limb ratios relative to each other and the spine, pelvis, clavicles
-wrist circumference
-ankle circumference
-extent of cold adaption in the morphology of the body
-finger lengths relative to each other

...and some of them latent:
-genetic predisposition
-hormone responses
-training drive
etc. etc.

A better guideline would be in terms of attainable strength levels:

80% of adult males should be able to complete (in good form) a max single in the bench/squat/deadlift with approx. 300/400/500 lbs respectively with three years of concerted training and diet.

Another 10% of adult males will reach this level within three to five years training, and approx 10% will be unable to attain this level of strength.

It's because people don't know how to accurately assess their bodybuilding/strength potential (ie: don't know how to objectively assess the "obvious" factors listed above) that discussions of maximum natural potential quickly degenerate into "everyone over 140 lbs is on steroids" hysteria.

Skip La Couer, John Hanson and Jeff Willet are good examples of what can be achieved naturally.

The Luke
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: HERACLES on January 15, 2006, 07:55:32 PM
OMG!
LMAO!

Is that you Superstar? HOLYS SHIT! OWNED! YOU LOK PATHETIC! You make MIke Arvilla look like Mr olympia contender with that pic! Whatta tool u are man....omg, i cant stop laughing..!! ;D
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: gordiano on January 15, 2006, 07:59:48 PM
This kind of physique. This is guy is natural afterall........

(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/tsinkorang/DSC00412.jpg)

Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: Jr. Yates on January 15, 2006, 08:01:37 PM
that guy looks good.
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: SS on January 15, 2006, 08:03:38 PM
OMG!
LMAO!

Is that you Superstar? HOLYS SHIT! OWNED! YOU LOK PATHETIC! You make MIke Arvilla look like Mr olympia contender with that pic! Whatta tool u are man....omg, i cant stop laughing..!! ;D
hahaha! sucker! thats the one and only kegdrainer! hahaha! yeah he does look like shit!......like you! you fat midget :-*
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on January 15, 2006, 08:11:26 PM

 The best you could get is to look like mike alliva
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: HERACLES on January 15, 2006, 08:15:54 PM
Im better than youll ever be superstar, ive competed in 4 natural shows, im sure you never waddles your fat ass on stage! SO STFU! and keep hiding behond that screen you fat pos looser! HAHAHA!
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: Hendrix on January 15, 2006, 08:18:39 PM
Its all genetics but i would be suprised if a 5,11 male could weigh more than 225 pounds at a very low bodyfat and that would be with superior genetics.
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: SS on January 15, 2006, 08:25:33 PM
Im better than youll ever be superstar, ive competed in 4 natural shows, im sure you never waddles your fat ass on stage! SO STFU! and keep hiding behond that screen you fat pos looser! HAHAHA!
blah blah blah! STFU! go fuck a lamb! you stinky greek!......
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: HERACLES on January 15, 2006, 08:36:12 PM
Classic Superstar, your one of the BIGGEST GET BIG LOSERS dude. Keep trolling fatboy. And Keep wacking off to your man, Superstarbillygram...LMA O!
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: SS on January 15, 2006, 08:56:20 PM
Classic Superstar, your one of the BIGGEST GET BIG LOSERS dude. Keep trolling fatboy. And Keep wacking off to your man, Superstarbillygram...LMA O!
ok "HERACLES" ::)
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: onlyme on January 15, 2006, 08:59:21 PM
This is about as far as you can get
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: The Luke on January 16, 2006, 06:29:20 PM
With respect Onlyme, some natural bodybuilders are genuinely clean and genuinely impressive. I've seen guys 5'9'' compete at a legitimate 200 lbs ripped (5% bf by caliper), who were completely natural.

Remember most (I said most) of the champions in the 40's and 50's were completely natural, yet if they posted their pics nowadays they'd immediately be accused of juicing to the gills.

The guys who claim steroids are a requisite for building muscle are often those who never put in the effort to build a base themselves.

The Luke
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: brianX on January 16, 2006, 06:48:45 PM
This is about as far as you can get

Quit posting photos of JamieX4200. It hurts his feelings. :'(
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: phyxsius on January 16, 2006, 07:58:54 PM
Quit posting photos of JamieX4200. It hurts his feelings. :'(

ROFL

This is what you called natural.. no matter how heavy you lift or squat, that's how far your physique can take you
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: Rome on January 17, 2006, 09:58:32 AM
Depends on your parents, what you eat  and how hard you work. Not rocket scientry  :)
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: littleguns on January 17, 2006, 10:25:42 AM
Can't foget Mike O'Hearn.....

May not be a mass monster but pretty good lines
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: Prime on January 17, 2006, 12:55:19 PM
look on www.bnbf.co.uk
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: Borracho on January 17, 2006, 01:09:48 PM
Why sell yourself short.

Just Juice!
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: Erol brown on January 24, 2006, 12:27:04 PM
www.pronaturalmuscle.com
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: jaejonna on January 24, 2006, 12:41:40 PM
are we talking natural like Matt T or Alimini's Gay The Team Natural or natural like not using steroids ever ... the term has been defined differently as of late
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: gordiano on January 24, 2006, 02:55:12 PM
are we talking natural like Matt T or Alimini's Gay The Team Natural or natural like not using steroids ever ... the term has been defined differently as of late

What? Natural like Matt T.? What the fuck are you implying? Matt is 100% lifetime drug free. Otherwise he would have never EVER competed in a natural event like Musclemania. Matt has too much honor and pride to cheat. He knows that it would require for him to be an absolute piece of shit to enter a natural contest as a drug user.
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: BayGBM on January 24, 2006, 03:20:02 PM
Look at the physiques on the men’s gymnastics team. Those are natural agile physiques.

If you want smaller look at the sprinters on the Olympic track team.  Those are natural limber physiques. 

If you want bigger, look at the shot putters on the Olympic team.  I knew a shot putter when I was in college and he had a very beefy natural physique, his body was not particularly agile but it served my purposes.  ;D
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: alexxx on January 24, 2006, 04:34:16 PM
Well not to sound to arrogant... but its my physique! You should see the expressions people get me when I walk shirtless in Canada winter ;D
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: Prime on January 24, 2006, 04:37:34 PM
Nigel Davis nuff said
(http://www.bnbf.co.uk/images/nigel5.jpg)
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: FREAKgeek on January 24, 2006, 07:51:37 PM
There is no way to prove you are really natural.  Most drugs can be completely eliminated within days. Hardcore testing is expensive and time consuming. 
Title: Re: What is the best physique a person can get naturally?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 25, 2006, 12:04:46 AM
Look at the physiques on the men’s gymnastics team. Those are natural agile physiques.

If you want smaller look at the sprinters on the Olympic track team.  Those are natural limber physiques. 

If you want bigger, look at the shot putters on the Olympic team.  I knew a shot putter when I was in college and he had a very beefy natural physique, his body was not particularly agile but it served my purposes.  ;D


I'm sorry, but you're crazy if you think that competitors in the olympics are natural, particularly in the gymnastics and track teams. ;)